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Secret Invasion: Tony Stark's Biggest Failure 

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Today, we're diving into the history of Secret Invasion and Iron Man's biggest failures.
00:00 Intro
00:41 Thanks, Dave!
01:40 Preparations
4:37 The Secret Invasion
9:31 The God Squad
10:20 Battles
15:14 The Aftermath
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Tags: #IronMan #SecretInvasion #Marvel

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@lizardguyNA
@lizardguyNA 11 месяцев назад
Sadly, that bit about Norman Osbourne getting a huge fandom despite the known supervillainy and getting the keys to US National Security is probably the most realistic thing in this series.
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 11 месяцев назад
Honestly the biggest problem with this era of Marvel was that it got _too_ real. Like, most of Gen Z is unaware how much pain the 21st century has had for everyone. Trump was Bush But Worse, and we had EIGHT YEARS of Bush. It was like the Marvel Universe was falling into the same damned, hopeless hell as us. There's a reason Obama won in 2008 on the slogan of "Hope". It was a period of pure, unadulterated despair. The PATRIOT Act was his first term. Katrina was his first term. The early meme that was the idiotic "Mission Accomplished" was his first damn term. And he got a second. Bush gaffs were the original Trump tweets. At one point, the majority of America cheered when a foreign civilian threw a shoe at him. His approval rating was _one fourth_ of Trump's. Marvel got as bleak as life was, and that's a far cry from even the concept of "grimdark". Like, the original "grimdark" if we're being entirely honest is Edgar Allen Poe. There's an elevated, unreal bleakness there. It's darker than life. This is abyss-gazing dark, like the Batman Landmine comic. It's as bleak as real life, but it's doing it by forcing us to think about how bleak real life actually is.
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 11 месяцев назад
@@PosthumanHeresy Yea no, Trump was W but worse. The fact he didn't start any wars feels like a miracle. The PATRIOT Act was W's work, Obama just signed the renewal (it didn't even make it to Trump's desk, the Trump-era renewal was defeated in the legislative branch so let's not pretend Trump wouldn't have renewed it if it did make it to his desk)... Also Obama successfully prevented a pandemic from getting out of hand and even made a prevention plan that Trump just tossed out the window. If anyone is "Bush but worse" it's Obama and if anyone is "Obama but worse" it's Biden.
@diegodunn-humphrey512
@diegodunn-humphrey512 11 месяцев назад
​@@PosthumanHeresyow the edge
@TitularHeroine
@TitularHeroine 11 месяцев назад
​@@diegodunn-humphrey512They're right though.
@diegodunn-humphrey512
@diegodunn-humphrey512 11 месяцев назад
@@TitularHeroine still edgy
@juliusbossman7280
@juliusbossman7280 11 месяцев назад
The idea of Tony or Norman being a Skrull would've been shocking. That a Skrull became so unstable pretending to be Green Goblin that he killed his queen not knowing or caring about it
@dragonbretheren
@dragonbretheren 11 месяцев назад
Or if it was an intended planned move to publicly sacrifice the "queen", making Earth drop its defenses and put the "hero" Norman into a position of immense power so that he could conduct the _true_ Secret Invasion.
@pious83
@pious83 11 месяцев назад
I know a few fans who didn't care for the "Cat" Beast look at the time. Wanted the traditional Beast design to be the real McCoy (pun intended).
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 11 месяцев назад
​​@@pious83 used to think the cat beast thing was just a artist choice, didn't know it had an explanation related to the house of m secondary mutations.
@pious83
@pious83 11 месяцев назад
@@justinarzola4584 It even predated House of M. It started in X-Treme X-Men #2 (2001). Beast gets nearly beaten to death. Sage activates his "secondary mutation" to kick start his natural healing ability. It is alluded to that Beast would have reached this form naturally were it not for his constant tinkering with his own DNA. It debuted properly in Morrison's All New X-Men. Personally, Beast was my favourite X-Man for many years. But I didn't like the Cat form. However it was visually refined by John Cassaday in Whedon's Astonishing X-Men to look *a lot* better.
@blackops7809
@blackops7809 11 месяцев назад
​@@pious83didn't they go with that look for the X-Men anime mini series
@Jason_Bryant
@Jason_Bryant 11 месяцев назад
I actually think it's a good thing that they didn't do a bunch of big Skrull reveals for significant characters. I remember that going into this event, people were expecting Marvel to use this to retcon away everything they didn't like. Hank Pym never slapped his wife, Tony was never pro-registration, etc, etc. People were hating on the retcons before they even happened. Then they didn't happen. I think Marvel learned the right lesson from the Clone Saga. Readers don't want to be told that decades of continuity was actually some other guy they don't care about and will never see again. Using some restraint on the Skrull replacements was a good call.
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 11 месяцев назад
I'm glad they didn't retcon Iron Man as a skrull cause it would have taken away from his character development in Civil War, i wish they did retcon Mr Fantastic as one since he killed Goliath with that fake Thor during Civil War and temporaily broke up the Fantastic Four.
@AlteredNova04
@AlteredNova04 11 месяцев назад
I agree that they were right not to do a bunch of big skrull reveals, but I still think they should have done at least one just to really sell how dangerous and long term the invasion plan was. And it should have been Tony Stark, because seriously everyone hated how his character was ruined in civil war.
@MWhaleK
@MWhaleK 11 месяцев назад
Maybe they should have retconned Pym's slap because that has been use to turn him into an irredeemable A-hole and villain.
@Jason_Bryant
@Jason_Bryant 11 месяцев назад
@@MWhaleK That's exactly why they can't do it. One Marvel writer has even said that they can't get rid of it because it's the most interesting thing the character ever did.
@thomasraines1396
@thomasraines1396 11 месяцев назад
Sadly Hank sending Janet flying is one of the only things he’s known for and even then it only happened because of a miscommunication between the writer and artist (I think).
@MisterChelonian
@MisterChelonian 11 месяцев назад
I love Scott Summers's ruthlessness in this era. He internalizes the idea that his people have been nearly eradicated down to a 198 individuals. This is around the same time that he becomes aware of the machinations and failures of Charles Xavier and takes on more of a Magnito role in his defense of mutants against the rest of the world. Very much a "never again" mentality but by any means.
@mitchschroeder1151
@mitchschroeder1151 11 месяцев назад
I agree completely. I love watching Cyclops during this period. He’s not a boy scout; he will do whatever it takes to protect his people.
@AnormalLifeisboring
@AnormalLifeisboring 10 месяцев назад
Yeah I think he made the right call on Skrull genocide, also I think Doctor Who had a similar "never again" phase.
@luigiboi4244
@luigiboi4244 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, I'm starting to come around to this idea. However it went a little too far when the Avengers VS X-Men event happened, where Scott got the Phoenix Force, killed Professor X, and heard his wife Jean call him a moron from beyond the grave. I know the comics like to give Scott a hard time, but that's a bit much.
@K1ng1995
@K1ng1995 7 месяцев назад
There's a fanfic writer online who hated Krakoa I asked them why and they responded with that quote Superman tells the Elite about dreams. They also think that 2000's Marvel was garbage because every character was ruined and I mean EVERY character they also hate legacy characters. They hate X23 and Logan both being called Wolverine, Kate and Clint both being Hawkeye, Miles and Peter being called Spider-Man, Amadeus and Bruce both being the Hulk etc. They loved One More Day BTW, and they also hate Spike Lee movies saying any movie that isn't like Starwars, Die Hard, aka movies where it's easy to define whos good and bad sucks
@jerfuhrer2581
@jerfuhrer2581 11 месяцев назад
This Era is honestly when Marvel, as a whole, was on fire! Everything felt like it led into each event seamlessly! And I LOVED the Dark Reign!! I was mad that it ended so soon.
@mitchschroeder1151
@mitchschroeder1151 11 месяцев назад
DC was also killing it at this time. It was a great time to be a comic fan.
@ValueNetwork
@ValueNetwork 11 месяцев назад
I love how Norman Osborn sees a alien invasion of earth and he immediately saw dollar signs and went full patriot. In my eye: The best supervillain move is convincing people your a superhero
@alexanderstrauch5531
@alexanderstrauch5531 11 месяцев назад
Honestly the lead up to Secret Invasion and the tie-ins (like Fury recruiting the illegitimate kids of C list heroes) made the whole event worth it
@gota7738
@gota7738 11 месяцев назад
I feel like that's the rule with most events in comics. The main titles often feel both too ambitious in trying to be attention grabbing and "nothing will ever be the same", while also underwhelming as the story has to weave its way from that back to status quo in time for the next event. Meanwhile the tie ins tend to be lower key, but can also get weirder as the writers are less constrained by the spotlight but also can decide from the get go what the consequences are.
@CDKohmy
@CDKohmy 11 месяцев назад
Pantheon literally means "all gods", so in a way, 2 is a minimum. I would also like to add that the idea of rigid pantheons of gods in the ancient world is not accurate as there was tons of intermixing and syncretism.
@franknova987
@franknova987 11 месяцев назад
I think Warhammer 40k has 2 Orc Gods as a pantheon?
@bobhollywood4093
@bobhollywood4093 11 месяцев назад
Two wouldn't be the minimum, one would be. If that's all they have, that's all of them, which is what the word means.
@user-fn2mx6dd5k
@user-fn2mx6dd5k 11 месяцев назад
​@@bobhollywood4093is pantheon even used in relation to monotheism
@bobhollywood4093
@bobhollywood4093 11 месяцев назад
@@user-fn2mx6dd5k not in colloquial speech, but it literally just means "all the gods of a people or religion collectively". If there's only one, that's still all.
@carrastealth
@carrastealth 10 месяцев назад
13:10 I gotta admit, I felt bad for the Skrull Mockingbird here. She was essentially brainwashed to believe she was the real Mockingbird and had all her memories and was legit trying to help them. But Clint killed her before she had any idea what was going on and was very confused after Reed had revealed her. Clint ain't always the best when it comes to judgement, that's probably why him and the real Mockingbird remain separated even when she returns.
@Future_Vantas
@Future_Vantas 11 месяцев назад
Obligatory shout-out to the Avengers EMH adaptation of Secret Invasion. It is a really good take on the storyline that streamlined the plot beats while adding some excellent character moments. The episode with the ship full of imposters descending on Wakanda is a highlight, Ms. marvel's confusion over the situation was infectious.
@MagnusTonitrum117
@MagnusTonitrum117 11 месяцев назад
y u h I watched that recently, it’s really cool (EMH in general is just based tbh)
@halfmettlealchemist8076
@halfmettlealchemist8076 10 месяцев назад
Common EMH W
@K1ng1995
@K1ng1995 7 месяцев назад
I also loved the fallout wasn’t just done in one episode it took a while for things to be fixed.
@DrDirtyLeggz
@DrDirtyLeggz 11 месяцев назад
On their own, Civil War, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign and Seige were all mixed but as a whole, i think was a good series of events leading into the heroic age.
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 11 месяцев назад
This whole era of Marvel was my favorite, never cared for anything else after Siege.
@ironmaster6496
@ironmaster6496 11 месяцев назад
@@justinarzola4584 same, though i loved Uncanny X-men vol2 the fact that everything leads up to AVX......yeah not a good ending to say the least
@clarkexcore
@clarkexcore 11 месяцев назад
The best part about Secret Invasion was the build up to it. I will never forget the Elektra reveal. The marketing of "Who do you Trust" and the little ads where it would be skrulls and earthlings together were also very memorable. I bought every tie-in and limited series trying to figure it out myself, and it was a great time. I don't think I ever had an event had me fully engaged everything like I was with Secret Invasion and for that it will always have a place in my heart.
@Spooder_Man1421
@Spooder_Man1421 11 месяцев назад
I'm surprised spider-man didn't barge into office and sucker punch norman
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 11 месяцев назад
indeed i wished that happened
@lindarozalinda7177
@lindarozalinda7177 11 месяцев назад
I was surprised that Spider-man played so little role in Dark Reign considering his history with Norman. It was very disappointing
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 11 месяцев назад
@@lindarozalinda7177 indeed I was surprised about that as well because honestly out of all the characters who should have a major impact in Dark Reign it should've been Peter Parker Spider-man considering Norman osborn aka green goblin is his arch nemesis.
@gota7738
@gota7738 11 месяцев назад
I like Dark Reign but that is one of my big disappointments with it. Apparently there was a mandate to separate Norman Osborn from Peter, limiting how involved they could get. On top of that because of OMD, Norman didn't know Peter's identity so that source of tension couldn't go explored. My far off dream is that one day Marvel will do its own Animated Universe, leading to an adaptation Of Dark Reign that would make full use of Peter and Norman's nemesis-ship.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 11 месяцев назад
@@gota7738 I wished Marvel comics did there own animated universe similar to Bruce Timm DCAU universe because that would be really awesome and badass.
@dr.robotnick1888
@dr.robotnick1888 11 месяцев назад
Marvel: Secret Invasion is Stark's greatest failure Disney: Secret Invasion is the MCU's greatest failure
@hikaruchan16
@hikaruchan16 11 месяцев назад
As much as I really like Secret Invasion as an event, especially the Black Panther stuff (all y’all NEED to read the Black Panther Secret Invasion story because HOT DANG it’s awesome ✨) …every thing involving Iron Man is just more doubling down on the character assassination committed against him during Civil War instead of trying to repair the damage. And watching him get all the flack and blame while folks like Reed Richards get away scot free is just painful. 😭 Like it actually hurts seeing my boy get beat down over and over with no chance for recovery or redemption. And he’s still paying for it even now, all these years later and it’s just not fair 💔 Even directly following this event, as renowned as Fraction’s Invincible Iron Man run is, the entire first half of the run is essentially damage control from Civil War/Secret Invasion…the fact that it was necessary means there were probably stories we didn’t get because he had to deal with this mess 😫 Sigh. Being an Iron Man fan is so hard y’all…but I just can’t quit it. Even if the world is against him, Shell-Head is still my boy! 😭
@markandrew287
@markandrew287 11 месяцев назад
Well, he got his time in the movies if that's any consolation
@noampresnete8677
@noampresnete8677 11 месяцев назад
i wouldn't say i agree. while civil war went too far it revealed flaws that alowd future writers like fraction and cantwell to tell intresting stories with. secret invastion was there to teach tony a lesson about how wrong he was by showing everything he tried to build was inefective because in only trusting himself he had no one to rely on when he fell.
@marcofioretti6908
@marcofioretti6908 11 месяцев назад
One of my favourite things about this channel is seeing the small changes in the background. Seeing what new logos you add.
@nightshadoew436
@nightshadoew436 11 месяцев назад
I wish you talked abou Earth’s Mightiest Heroes adaptation of Secret Invasion since it fixed the biggest flaw of the comic version in my opinion, it had interesting character reveals. Well not really but a major character is a skrull for half of season 2 and it is amazing, seeing all the little things they do to ready the Earth for invasion
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 11 месяцев назад
That show was pretty good from what i remember.
@nightshadoew436
@nightshadoew436 11 месяцев назад
@@justinarzola4584 It is. I just recently finished rewatching it. Still holds up
@luigiboyinblu
@luigiboyinblu 11 месяцев назад
I only read the main event after years because one of my cousins told me how threatening the Skrulls were and I was completely on board with a story about multiple identity thefts all at once in order to take over the planet. Thing is, there wasn’t much mystery or shocking reveals in the end. Most of them were revealed right off the bat, which was a huge letdown for me. I think I’ll always prefer the Earth’s Mightiest Heroes adaptation of Secret Invasion.
@jacobwilliams1223
@jacobwilliams1223 11 месяцев назад
For what it is worth, I was always glad they didn't do the reveal that Tony was a Skrull. Tony in this era was behind some of the most unpopular and worse decisions in-universe such as Civil War, pressuring Peter Parker to unmask, sending Hulk to space leading to World War Hulk etc. A lot of divisive and scummy stuff that the writers so easily could've back peddled on but they didn't.
@TheJediMazter
@TheJediMazter 11 месяцев назад
I love how they did the is he/isn't he worry really well and still yeah like you said didn't retcon all his bad choices
@lmads8023
@lmads8023 11 месяцев назад
That's good writing
@costelinha1867
@costelinha1867 11 месяцев назад
A rich guy making a contingency plan behind people's back that bites him and his team in the ass? Hmmm.... where have I seen that before? BRUCE? Bruce Wayne is that you?
@MacDarf
@MacDarf 11 месяцев назад
You left out that Deadpool was actually the one to kill the Skrull leadership, Norman just lied about it being him.
@robertrowley4929
@robertrowley4929 10 месяцев назад
That makes Deadpool even more awesome!
@leobruch3697
@leobruch3697 11 месяцев назад
Dark Reign and Siege are absolutely amazing and it’s worth reading through secret invasion for the build up to that alone in my opinion
@CaptainCat101
@CaptainCat101 11 месяцев назад
Matpat finally got a Marvel theory right
@ShockwaveFPSStudios
@ShockwaveFPSStudios 11 месяцев назад
To be fair, he had no idea that this already happened in the comics, so…
@ggt47
@ggt47 11 месяцев назад
​@@ShockwaveFPSStudiosYou think he would look it up.
@tskmaster3837
@tskmaster3837 11 месяцев назад
The Skrull empire went from being in a stalemate with the Kree empire to being reduced to a single destroyed home world in search of a new world... and to make things dumber, the Skrull's ancient adversaries had to be told "hey, your enemies are just about dead. Help us finish the job"? Bendis was giving everything for a Skrull invasion on Earth... except he couldn't supply the REASON for it to happen?! "Something something religion, the Skrull Emperor became a Skrull Queen, don't ask questions I'll have to answer."
@robertangus616
@robertangus616 11 месяцев назад
The most interesting thing about the Dark Reign is that Norman Osborn essentially became Iron Man's arch-nemesis while Spider-Man does not interact with him nearly as much as he should. I think the real reason Osborn was turned into Tony's villain rather than Peter's is because Tony's arch-nemesis the Mandarin is a walking talking racist stereotype at this point which is why they originally turned him into Aldrich Killian in Iron Man 3 before eventually modernising him in Shang-Chi
@lindarozalinda7177
@lindarozalinda7177 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, I expected more Spidey vs Osborn. So wasted potential
@joshjones9749
@joshjones9749 9 месяцев назад
They brought mandarin back a couple times after. They don't have to make him a fu Manchu. There's alot of ways they can and have adapted him in the comics. He's a great villain. Especially for Tony.
@juliiju0484
@juliiju0484 11 месяцев назад
The Black Panther and Storm Tie-In is one of the best Event Tie-Ins I've read. T'Challa and Ororo are a power couple that I wish could come back, but with the events of Krakoa, I find it difficult.
@rubiconprime1429
@rubiconprime1429 11 месяцев назад
Now that Dark Reign’s officially in the cards, can we get a vid on Victoria Hand. She was pretty great IMO. Also, I find it kind of hard to take that Hawkeye+Mokingbird moment seriously considering the moment I got into comics was the moment he dropped her like a hot sack of rocks to be with Spider-woman (which went no where)
@spectorthecritic1723
@spectorthecritic1723 11 месяцев назад
Ah, The era in Marvel where every writer shat on Tony in every event possible and usually even in his own books! Oh... Wait? thats still basically going on? Damn.
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 11 месяцев назад
It is pretty sad considering Iron Man was one of my favorite characters for a while.
@carso1500
@carso1500 11 месяцев назад
@@justinarzola4584 its kind of curious, he is probably right now one of the most popular super heroes in the planet thanks to the movies but that hasnt stopped the writers from shitting on him constantly
@bloodycoffee9293
@bloodycoffee9293 11 месяцев назад
I hated what the writers did to Tony during Civil War, so Secret Invasion basically cementing Tony's "development" was pretty disappointing.
@catspaw3092
@catspaw3092 11 месяцев назад
I did too Hank should've been the one to create Ultron not Tony someone on that writing team hated Tony Stark just like Tom Rothman hated Deadpool which is why he had Deadpool's mouth sewn shut in the Wolverine movie. But the moment he left Deadpool got made & brought in about 7 hundred million dollars.
@Slender_Man_186
@Slender_Man_186 10 месяцев назад
@@catspaw3092 honestly, Deadpool after the video game and ESPECIALLY the movie sucks, and I don’t care how much money it made.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 11 месяцев назад
Secret invasion as a event I always found to be a complete mess and a complete miss opportunity mostly because this event had so much potential to retcon so many bad stories like one more day which would be really awesome and finally bring back peter Parker and Mary Jane to have there marriage alive and kicking yes but also have there daughter mayday Parker Spider-girl alive and kicking and boom problem solved everybody wins but that’s just my opinion.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 11 месяцев назад
Great idea. Plus, as a story on its own, it could've been a great paranoid thriller with superheroes in a political intrigue story. Especially after the Civil War event. Instead, it made some pointless retcons that didn't add much depth or fix previous storytelling failures like you said.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 11 месяцев назад
@@themadtitan7603 thank you man and honestly I would've been all for that idea with a superhero political thriller with the skrulls invading earth because that at least sounds way more interesting then the actual story that we got which effected nothing in the grand scheme of things in my opinion.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 11 месяцев назад
@TevyaSmolka I haven't watched Secret Invasion yet, but that seems like the direction the show is going for. A more focused, smaller-scale political thriller and not a messy superhero extravaganza. Idk if the show succeeds in that or not though.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 11 месяцев назад
@@themadtitan7603 I can understand that and honestly from what I can tell it seems to be doing that type story so far and while it isn't my favorite show in the world so far the show has been doing that direction as best as it could.
@themadtitan7603
@themadtitan7603 11 месяцев назад
@@TevyaSmolka Interesting. I'm definitely planning on watching it after it concludes and seeing how well it does it myself.
@chriscueva1866
@chriscueva1866 11 месяцев назад
Drake single-handedly cosplaying as the entire Illuminati is the silliest most ridiculous thing I’ve seen this week. Thanks Comic Drake.
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 11 месяцев назад
The event that made Skrulls popular in the modern era
@oddboss6712
@oddboss6712 11 месяцев назад
dang it
@oddboss6712
@oddboss6712 11 месяцев назад
i thought i was first
@BlueBoboDoo100
@BlueBoboDoo100 11 месяцев назад
I think phase 4 of the MCU should've started a Dark Reign saga. The heroes won but are mostly gone. It would've been great to introduce Osborn and build up Spider-Man to be a bigger part of the universe. Or really set up a Dark Avengers or Thunderbolts team instead of the drip feed of half-measures they've been doing. I think it would've been a fresh, darker direction for the MCU. Instead phase 4 was about 🤷‍♂️ and they've been setting up a dozen half-baked ideas.
@RickReasonnz
@RickReasonnz 11 месяцев назад
That would work... if the MCU didn't gleefully kill off almost every villain that appeared in their movies.
@lmads8023
@lmads8023 11 месяцев назад
Who cares about the mcu it's terrible and always was.
@DabiDavs
@DabiDavs 11 месяцев назад
For his neutral special, Norman Osborn wields a GUN
@TronNerd82
@TronNerd82 11 месяцев назад
Always a good day when there's a new Comic Drake vid. At the rate he's going, he'll be at 500k subs in no time at all.
@tdkb3395
@tdkb3395 11 месяцев назад
I always love how wakanda is this rock of a civilization that will stand strong no matter what
@andrewbeecroft6509
@andrewbeecroft6509 11 месяцев назад
I seem to remember deadpool being a part of normans takeover. He gathered intel or something that allowed normie to kill varanke. He also caused muliple skrulls to go insane when they became copies of him.
@oddboss6712
@oddboss6712 11 месяцев назад
Glad Secret Invasion kind of explained why Hank Pym became a abuser and just became completely different
@noampresnete8677
@noampresnete8677 11 месяцев назад
nah, he still slapped his wife (accedently or not), he was snatched later
@webtely
@webtely 11 месяцев назад
They could have used this event to retcon a lot of characters which were written out of character in the past into being a skrull, the big one I am surprised they didn't do was Hank Pym.
@pious83
@pious83 11 месяцев назад
4:27 Worth noting, as you enjoy your deep dives Drake. There was technically* a prologue to Secret Invasion back in 1999. X-Men #89 - #90 and UXM #369. A three part story that saw the X-Men teleported to the Skrull Homeworld on the day Galactus arrived. The entire exchange between Professor X and Galactus was a particular highlight. *I doubt Bendis knew/was made aware this story existed.
@veggiewillymass
@veggiewillymass 11 месяцев назад
2:51 props for not blinking a single time in all ur cosplays except Namor and Tony 😂
@IntroDuktionZ
@IntroDuktionZ 11 месяцев назад
Great work again, Drake! Thanks for mentioning some of the interrelated stories that aren’t part of a typical plot summary.
@curtdog647
@curtdog647 11 месяцев назад
God Squad is my favorite superhero team-up of all time. It's so sick in concept but ends up being incredibly goofy and it's so fun
@aaronharvey7360
@aaronharvey7360 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video Comic Drake! I'm trying to go through and read all of these major events and I went through what I thought was the majority of Secret Invasion a month or two ago. I'm currently reading through Dark Reign and I was wondering how do I go about reading through these big events and not miss important stories? I'm using Marvel's Unlimited App and I'm going by their collected lists but there are a few stories you mentioned that I didn't read. How did you go about reading through Secret Invasion for this video? Is there something you can recommend to people that have Unlimited? Thanks in advance for your work and for looking over my comment.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 11 месяцев назад
Comic Herald has some great reading lists!
@MaxibonHR
@MaxibonHR 11 месяцев назад
Bendis can be hit or miss, but I can't deny what he did for Spider-Man, Daredevil and The Avengers will be something I'll always cherish
@connorbeith3232
@connorbeith3232 11 месяцев назад
I remember being enthralled by this story as a kid, though I only had the main story, so I didn't know about the Wakanda and Norman Osbourn speech stuff. One scene that still weirds me out to this day is that opening scene with Dum Dum Dogan, like I had no clue what was going on there.
@JackzTheIcompetant
@JackzTheIcompetant 11 месяцев назад
You can’t tell me when Norman Osborn was going on a killing spree that America fuck yeah wasn’t playing in the back
@CableFF7Forever
@CableFF7Forever 10 месяцев назад
I'll point out that Scarlet Witchs "No More Mutant" spell was not just planetary, not just intergalactic, it was multi-dimensional. Hell it was felt in Old Man Logans universe where mutants were just seen as a genetic hiccup and none had been born in years (not knowing what had occurred in the 616 Universe and the timeline itself was further along in its future). When Logan and Hawkeye arrived in Doom's Lair in the story, Emma Frost said there was about 30 of them left on the planet in general. Not really relevant to this story but its a great insight into how goddamn powerful Scarlet Witch is, basically committing genocide on an multi-dimensional scale
@fernandozavaletabustos205
@fernandozavaletabustos205 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for making this insightful video about this saga!!
@trowa9960
@trowa9960 10 месяцев назад
When secret invasion started, it was a very exciting time in comics. I was just getting deep into comics and the build up for this event was still, imo, the best built up to any marvel event. It started great but I don't think it stuck the landing well. Why wouldn't the skrulls give every skrull wolverines healing factor? Imagine a nearly unkillable army? That would've helped them. The big battle in the end just turned into a slaughter of skrulls with no real casualties on the heroes side. (Sure, wasp "died" but only due to a gimmick.) I thought it would've been a much better status quo to have the skrulls win and assimilate into the world like many of the ads for the event seemed to indicate. That would have been a better status quo for dark reign. Instead, we get Norman Osborn (who I love, Norman is great as a villian) getting praise and a huge promotion for... shooting the queen in the head. That could've been done by anyone. It would've been better if there was something unique needed to be done to kill her that only Norman could have known (there was the deadpool/thunderbolts series that gave him this info in the first place... just to shoot her in the head.) So... for me it was a disappointing ending after a fantastic set up.
@Garushiafm
@Garushiafm 11 месяцев назад
I remember when Wolverine try to fight one of the horsemen of the apocalypse and got killed. When everyone was surprised, it was revealed that Wolverine was a skrull and the horsemen were the true Wolverine... It was not related to secret invasion?
@kingbrohamut
@kingbrohamut 11 месяцев назад
Dark Reign through Siege is probably still my favorite era of Marvel to this day.
@CrazyGamingYT56
@CrazyGamingYT56 11 месяцев назад
Love your content keep up the great work
@takaielliott2391
@takaielliott2391 11 месяцев назад
Hey, I'm loving the big marvel event series and have enjoyed your vids for years! Still kinda new to comics, but i read Axis and Secret Empire and would love to see videos on them explaining any backstory or tie in details i missed
@Noms_Chompsky
@Noms_Chompsky 10 месяцев назад
Great viddie! I usually watch a few viddies before I decide to subscribble or not, you got it in one son; in fact I'm cutting some chores short and leaving them for tomorrow 'cause I'm bingin' baybeee
@dmitrifrancisco3912
@dmitrifrancisco3912 10 месяцев назад
Bro I just want to say I love your content and you always slam it out of the park.
@sunshinensmiles2178
@sunshinensmiles2178 11 месяцев назад
Great video Drake!
@oddboss6712
@oddboss6712 11 месяцев назад
Tony having nukes and not being kept in prison is crazy
@jamainegardner4193
@jamainegardner4193 11 месяцев назад
Man, it sure was lucky for the Skrulls that Hulk wasn't there.
@bainr6856
@bainr6856 4 месяца назад
Great video. Also, 7:25: The REAL MCCOY? How long you been waitin to use that one😂
@daelen.cclark
@daelen.cclark 10 месяцев назад
Part of me thinks the Marvel artists wanted to redraw stuff they were nostalgic for, and Marvel itself decided to set this all in place to do that.
@ulyssesveracruz8343
@ulyssesveracruz8343 11 месяцев назад
Giving the keys of the goverment to norman osborn is literally straight up marvel version of lex luthor being president
@cedricboykins9328
@cedricboykins9328 11 месяцев назад
Osborn in front of Lincoln memorial would've been fire album cover😂
@DS_Sword
@DS_Sword 11 месяцев назад
I just want to push back against your opening statement. Kurt Buseik's Avengers sold really well and unlike Bendis' run it actually respected the history of the team.
@randomguy970
@randomguy970 11 месяцев назад
This era of Marvel (Civil War to Dark Reign/Siege) was my introduction to comics and whilst confusing, I absolutely ate it up. I have a fondness for Bendis and event comics in general because of it.
@FloatingCityComics
@FloatingCityComics 11 месяцев назад
Great video! Thanks for letting me voice Bendis, it was fun!
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 11 месяцев назад
And thank you for coming on the last minute! You definitely saved the upload schedule. 💖
@andyvincenti4154
@andyvincenti4154 10 месяцев назад
Ive been putting off this video because I've been reading the secret invasion event. Great watch!
@NeroPiroman
@NeroPiroman 11 месяцев назад
The adaptation of this story in earth mightiest Heroes was top tier
@markpula91
@markpula91 11 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂That illuminate bit was hilarious! Best laugh I’ve had all week!😂😂😂😂
@cameronweaver2013
@cameronweaver2013 11 месяцев назад
Dont know too much about the comics, but I love this story breakdown!
@Maxz92
@Maxz92 11 месяцев назад
I had Marvel Unlimited for a bit a few months back and I read basically the whole Bendis event storyline thing from Nick Fury's Secret War through The Heroic Age but the only event I read all the tie-ins for was Secret Invasion. There was a lot of cool stuff in the tie-ins but man was that way too many comic books. It took me weeks to get through them.
@sighmanschurz6189
@sighmanschurz6189 11 месяцев назад
That mr fantastic costume with the uno card got a laugh from me 😂
@emeraldhillzone1992
@emeraldhillzone1992 3 дня назад
15:11 "And also Elvis" Excuse me- Drake, buddy, mind elaborating on that? At what point did the Skrull decide to kidnap the king of rock?
@chrisschneider5008
@chrisschneider5008 11 месяцев назад
I really did love that whole "The Incredible Herc" run even if parts of it have aged a bit worse than others
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 11 месяцев назад
0:17 "Really a skrull this time" That's exactly what a skrull would say.
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro 7 месяцев назад
nice to hear what this was all about
@emeraldazakite
@emeraldazakite 11 месяцев назад
I have most but the ben urich series. This, civil war, and dark reign were a perfect trillogy. The initiative was a great jump on for teams. The main old standard teams were compromised and the newer teams had to stand up.
@emeraldazakite
@emeraldazakite 11 месяцев назад
Not to mention, she hulk and klurts daughter, longshot, San Francisco where the x men beast gave them the legacy virus, atlas took back Seattle. The MCU version doesn't have a good enough set up to tell it , though the cast is great.
@abruoon
@abruoon 11 месяцев назад
love to see the new logos on the background
@Batz-xk3nt
@Batz-xk3nt 11 месяцев назад
Osborne is such a Luthor, change my mind.
@tylerjones7592
@tylerjones7592 11 месяцев назад
He is basically a combination of Lex Luther and the Joker
@sketcher445
@sketcher445 2 месяца назад
I'm so glad my boy Hercules got one of the best parts of this event
@philmasecar8542
@philmasecar8542 11 месяцев назад
One of the few things I liked about this story, they didn't retcon Tony, Marvel and Bendis let all the shitty things he did stand, and let himself work out some sort of redemption story. The rest of story? Rather indifferent, but just this one thing good job all
@rosemarygrant6424
@rosemarygrant6424 11 месяцев назад
A highlight to me when it was coming out was the plot with... 3D Man? Whose goggles allowed him to see the Skrull imposters a la 'They Live.' If I remember correctly, it was part of the 50 state initiative series (which I remember liking overall)
@LucasS541
@LucasS541 11 месяцев назад
i loved the bit right at the beggining
@lajosdobsa4712
@lajosdobsa4712 11 месяцев назад
I started reading comics during Secret Invasion, the Inhumans tie in is one of my favourite stories ever 😁😁😁
@isaiahjenkins3821
@isaiahjenkins3821 11 месяцев назад
For the next episode can you do Dark Reign? I heard about the event but I never knew what the event was about
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 11 месяцев назад
The thing is that it's not an event. It's a publication brand that went across every book release of the time for a few years.
@shadowclaw7210
@shadowclaw7210 11 месяцев назад
To make pantheon. You need more than 4. One is monotheism. Two is just duo. Three is a trinity. Then 4 is an music quartet. 5 is team.
@keyboardcowgirl69
@keyboardcowgirl69 10 месяцев назад
kind of annoying that optics ended up mattering but i guess that is politics, a little frustrating that tony had to fall back rather than repair on the fly, or having a backup suit waiting nearby to jet in
@zaaknicolas7638
@zaaknicolas7638 11 месяцев назад
2:53 lamo question whats the voice filter you used for iron man and i love the joke of elivs being a skull
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 11 месяцев назад
I literally watch a tutorial from 12 years ago every time I do Iron Man.
@zaaknicolas7638
@zaaknicolas7638 11 месяцев назад
@@ComicDrake do you have the link for the tutorial or the name of it?
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 11 месяцев назад
@@zaaknicolas7638 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qIrLEzweV9U.html
@simcity4111
@simcity4111 11 месяцев назад
I think that the event was just too messy sometimes, like, it lacked focus and quality really varied… I think that the earth mightiest heroes for example ended up doing the secret invasion story line way better by exploring the essential ideas of the storyline perfectly.
@pistaalkohol
@pistaalkohol 11 месяцев назад
I didn't knew this event had interesting tie-ins.
@LucasDarkGiygas
@LucasDarkGiygas 11 месяцев назад
Lol "Norman Osborn's Neutral Special: Gun"
@benziedshit
@benziedshit 11 месяцев назад
Nice shirt, Drake
@oscarquintero7161
@oscarquintero7161 11 месяцев назад
It did gave us iron man Most Wanted arc that awesome to read
@Bastion-wc7dv
@Bastion-wc7dv 11 месяцев назад
I’m still impressed Elvis was important enough from the Skrulls perspective to kidnap
@docthepoet426
@docthepoet426 11 месяцев назад
He's not wrong, that crusader video is really good
@unlockman777
@unlockman777 11 месяцев назад
So which event is next, Siege of Asgard, or maybe a one from DC?
@hectorbarrera8046
@hectorbarrera8046 11 месяцев назад
Norman: Yeah fuck StarkTech, that shit is slow and buggy. I'm something of a scientist, so I'm an expert on this
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 11 месяцев назад
God, I should have said that.
@hectorbarrera8046
@hectorbarrera8046 11 месяцев назад
@@ComicDrake holy crap thanks for replying, I love your vids man
@Extinguisher10
@Extinguisher10 11 месяцев назад
👏 What a surprise, Black Bolt got his cheeks clapped 👏
@dakingofmc
@dakingofmc 11 месяцев назад
this is completely unrelated lol but is that a zelda triforce in the top right of your backround?
@norsewolf98
@norsewolf98 10 месяцев назад
My favorite side story is Thor and Beta Ray Bill fighting an army of Skrulls underneath Asgard (it was floating ten feet off the ground of Oklahoma so he can say it’s not on American soil) and in the climax of the fight Thor orders Asgard to *fall out of the sky and crush the army as he and Beta Ray Bill hold it up*.
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