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Secret Ski Instructor Drill: FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTOR 

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In today’s video we are going to demonstrate how skiing behind an instructor will instantly improve your skiing.
Hi, I’m Tom from TDK Skiracing combining ski instruction with race coaching here to help you become a better skier.
INTRO
Anybody that ever attended any of my lessons or watched me out on the slope teaching or coaching knows that I always at some point have my students ski behind me, either single persons attending private lessons or a bunch of them attending group lessons. We even do it with ski racers.
There is an old saying that goes something like this: talk less. It could not be more true than in ski instruction, because our best teacher is surprise surprise not the ski instructor by say, but the slope. The mountain. The interaction between the skis and the snow will teach you everything you need. The ski instructor is merely just the middle man, there to guide you literally in the right direction. The thing is, if you only pick the right line then everything else will start falling in place. It’s that simple. All the right movements in skiing will come naturally if you let that happen.
In this following footage shot at a ski instructor clinic we are going to see how ski instructor Kenneth skilfully manages to improve our fictional student Stef’s skiing by having her follow behind.
The lesson starts out by both skiing down the slope on their own as a warm-up. This gives the instructor the possibility to observe how his student skis and gives him ideas of how to progress with the lesson.
The ski instructor carves nice controlled turns down the slope and stays more in the fall line on the top flat part of the slope while he then goes more across, on the steeper part of the slope. This is a great way to control your speed, especially while carving. It is called skiing the SLOW LINE FAST.
Stef’s skiing on the other hand is unplanned, a bit sloppy and pretty much straight down in the fall line. As the slope gets steeper, instead of controlling her speed by turn shape and line selection as the ski instructor did, she accelerates rapidly. This is called skiing the FAST LINE SLOW.
Stef is now told by the ski instructor to go more across the slope in order to control her speed. Let’s see how that turns out. Not a huge difference. She is still accelerating down the slope close to the fall line. The instructor needs to figure out something different and asks her to follow him in his tracks. They go up with the lift and this happens.
In this first run the instructor is quite moderate with speed and the line he picks and makes sure Stef is able to follow in his tracks. We can see a significant improvement in Stef’s skiing. Speed control comes naturally, and she makes her turns round and even.
Two more runs were made. Each run the instructor is pushing the student a bit further by skiing faster and turning tighter. Note that the person skiing in front can also be a good friend or a spouse. Since there is no need for spoken instructions, anybody could be the one skiing in front of behind. It would still work.
That’s all folks. Hope you have enjoyed the show and please give it thumbs up if you liked the video. Please subscribe to the channel if you haven’t already done so. Most of our viewers are not subscribers but by doing so you will get notified every time we upload a new content to the channel, and it helps us grow our audience and create new content.
Ski safely and behind a ski instructor this winter and see you out on the slopes!

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@surfk9836
@surfk9836 Год назад
Back in high school a friend and I would ski out of bounds at my local mountain and needed to hitchhike back to the lifts. It was steep and we were pretty good and it doubled our verticle. Once an ex pro racer, now forrest service ranger, gave us a ride. He thought it cool what my friend and I were doing. We met the next week to ski. WOW! In just 3-4 runs behind him down a steep face there was an epiphany: Now that's how you REALLY f'in ski! My competence jumped several levels that day. From that day on I learned from people who knew how to teach and always tried to ski with people who were better.
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Wow, thanks for sharing. Great story. It's nice to know these videos brings back such good memories. For that reason alone its all worth the effort. Thanks. Cheers, T
@lx5171
@lx5171 Год назад
especially when your wife or daughter likes to talk back when given suggestions on what they did wrong lmao
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
You nailed it. That's why I mentioned "spouse". Or family members. Those are the most difficult to teach. Even for us instructors. But skiing in front solves all these problems. At some point they will beg you to show how to do this or that. Or in most cases they will simply learn by themselves. Cheers, Tom
@MrDogonjon
@MrDogonjon Год назад
Avoid critical feedback when skiing with friends and family. Make critical feedback an analogy of how you personally over came struggles to blend skills. don't coach them directly but provide reinforcement to their coaches instruction.
@gairnmclennan5876
@gairnmclennan5876 Год назад
Yes brilliant. And I teach my daughter she is a novice/learner ski's well on a green or blue. She started at 6 years now 21 but not had more than 15 days in her life. I moved to a ski resort Queenstown NZ. She did six days this year as she lives 1600km away. But first thing I showed her was your ski the fast line slow video. Then I got her to point out the fall line on the piste every now. And then. At first she had no idea what to look for. Reading the mountain is a key element. Thanks Tom!
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
What a nice story. Thanks for sharing. Yes, reading the mountain is the key that unlocks skiing. Cheers, T
@MrDogonjon
@MrDogonjon Год назад
"Shut up and Ski" is a motto shared among professionals. Line skiing is the best way to refine turn shapes. the lead instructor must set the course others follow. Others must follow the exact track with precision. Deviation from the track... cutting inside to keep up is a sign of poor turn shape and gives immediate feedback that skill blending is incomplete. Line skiing drills are often ineffective if the lead instructor is not giving feedback and allowing the line to creep inside. Drills only work when feedback is accurate and timely..
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Did you see this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rkhEuvDC5IQ.html Anyway, thanks for your input here. Many instructors and especially coaches do not like line skiing but I have found it very useful. And yes, you need to be smart about it. But that goes for all kine of instruction, not just skiing. Cheers, Tom
@Jason-yr2xv
@Jason-yr2xv Год назад
Great Video Tom. I have watched almost all your videos since June and they have helped me improve a lot this year skiing in Lake Tahoe. I do sort of miss the intro music from the old videos.
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Thanks for being such a devoted follower of my channel. Glad to hear you like the music on the older videos. Time to bring that back into the picture so to speak. Cheers, Tom
@choski76
@choski76 Год назад
Great job. Thank you. More please
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Thank you! Will do!
@leventedima382
@leventedima382 Год назад
Jó hogy ez szóba került. A tanulóknak sokkal könnyebb minta alapján síelni. Optimális sebességet, irányt, időzítést kialakítani.
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Thank you for such great comment. Thank you for watching and greetings to all my viewers in Hungary. Cheers, Tom
@marioz2312
@marioz2312 Год назад
So simple, but so powerful advice
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Glad you think so!
@TomBomBing
@TomBomBing Год назад
Informative instructions once again, thanks Tom!
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
My pleasure!
@mehdish2410
@mehdish2410 Год назад
Thanks Tom, Another awesome video.
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
My pleasure!
@stanpol4039
@stanpol4039 Год назад
Thank you. I would also add that the person, who is following the instructor, usually (especially children) mimcs the instructor's technique.
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
I totally agree! I did not mention it as I taught I would try to make it as simple as possible. Thanks for pointing it out though. Learning by watching and mimic is the best way. Cheers, Tom
@bobbarnes1515
@bobbarnes1515 3 месяца назад
Interestingly (to me, at least!), it should not be necessary to tell the follower to mimic the instructor's technique. As I always say, "Intent Dictates Technique." The mere intent to follow the instructor's tracks will require certain desired movements, as any "wrong" moves will result in skidding off the track immediately. Feedback is instant and clear. The more the student practices following the instructor, the better he or she will get at it. No words of technical instruction required! Following close behind the instructor provides a visual which the student almost can't help but mimic. But even following "old" tracks without the instructor in sight will require the learner to do a lot of things right and provide instant feedback to reinforce good movements and identify errors. As Tom's video shows, technical change is immediate, and it will continue to improve with practice. PS--Hi Tom--good to see you active and making these very good videos! Best, Bob
@AkatarawaJapan
@AkatarawaJapan Год назад
So true, Tom. Same thing applies on two wheels and in many other sports. Not so sure about following ’anyone’ though. Can end up with the blind leading the blind.
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Yeah, true. But I want to play down the role of the ski instructor and raise the value of good skiing friends and family. Taking lessons is expensive so not everyone has even money to do that. Thanks for watching by the way and hope your winter is holding on as ours is raining out. Cheers, T
@laowai2000
@laowai2000 Год назад
After an almost 30 year break so happy to be back on the mountain. Just happens was doing exactly this today.
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Welcome back to the sport. Cheers, Tom
@tomascasal2492
@tomascasal2492 Год назад
Excellent video!
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Thank you very much!
@thelion6614
@thelion6614 Год назад
Excellent! I was planning to do this with my U14 racers this week, so this is great reinforcement. By the way, we use this technique in performance driving instruction. We call it "lead-follow,' and it can be very effective when a student is having trouble grasping the correct race line.
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Wow, thanks for sharing. I have been searching for a good name to this drill and LeadFollow is perfect. Thanks. When you are talking about performance driving are you referring to car racing? On a race track? Cheers, T
@thelion6614
@thelion6614 Год назад
@@Triggerboy62 Yes, I mean teaching amateur drivers how to handle a high-performance car (Porsche, Audi, Miata, Corvette, etc.) on a racetrack. I can work with a student all day long on how to approach a particular corner and they can still miss it. Then, for example, we get behind a car on the correct line and all of a sudden, they get it. One more benefit, it gets the students eyes up and looking further ahead, which is critical in performance driving.
@gogglebro9421
@gogglebro9421 Год назад
Tom, this is a great video that demonstrates the effectiveness of using follow the leader to teach turn shape. Thank you for posting it. Allow me to add that when I can keep a student on my tails, it also seems to help them ski parallel for whatever reason. Its fun for me to ski with enough precision that they can follow my tracks. // Marshall
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Great insight Marshall. I think you are onto something. And I have the exact same experience, kids learning parallel from just hanging behind. I think its because otherwise they cannot keep up with your tempo. First they start to cut the turns but there are ways we as instructors can arrange for this to be impossible. For example skiing around moguls or other obstacles. This method is dynamite. As are drills. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, T
@MrDogonjon
@MrDogonjon Год назад
When I get the opportunity to ski with another "good skier" I love to follow their tracks and challenge myself to find the same line and "compaction satisfaction' as the great skier I follow.
@magnificoas388
@magnificoas388 Год назад
Hello T. She does not follow in the tracks, almost always inside the turn of the instructor haha :) When some one is following me, I am very severe : Instructions: 1/ follow my actual tracks EXACTLY, 2/ at start push and go to my speed, 3/ try to reach me (and I adapt my speed...)
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Thanks for the tips! Those are brilliant. And yes, she was cutting the corners. My favorite trick is to suddenly let my carve continue uphill and then when it comes to a stop I make a loop and then continue in the other direction. Cheers, T
@magnificoas388
@magnificoas388 Год назад
@@Triggerboy62 ahah yes. Remember, lead-follow was the norm is the early ages of skiing :)
@Nickporter17
@Nickporter17 Год назад
Is it safe to make such wide turns? I skied for the first time yesterday. But I snowboarded and raced dh bikes at a high level. I was too afraid of getting creamed from behind to make such wide turns. Thanks to your videos I was still able to get shin pressure, angle the skis on to their edge, push the outside ski hard through the turn, flex and drive my inside knee through the turn, etc thank you so much!
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Thank you so much for watching my videos and trying to apply my advice out on the mountain. Yes, making wide turns can be dangerous because of all those faster skiers coming from behind. There really is no solution to that other than always be aware of who and what is behind you. When I ski I constantly look over my shoulder and try to pick a line that is the least open to straight liners from above. Cheers, Tom
@Nickporter17
@Nickporter17 Год назад
@@Triggerboy62 thanks! I have limited range in my neck so I can't look back very well. What line do you think it's less likely to expose you to straight liners?
@Aditya-fv9xv
@Aditya-fv9xv Год назад
Great video as usual! I would highly appreciate a video(or even your input!) flexing through the transitions between carved turns as that is what I seem to be struggling with. Whenever I try to initiate a new turn by staying low and flexing, I seem to fall into the back seat and lose pressure over my outside ski. I have been trying some drills such as the phantom turn where upon flexing: I consciously lean forward. Although helpful, I seem to still struggle with the same at higher speeds. Any suggestions or drill recommendations would be very helpful :D
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Hi and thanks for watching. Certainly I can help you. That is what I am here for. Did you see this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gTvcFiIy_74.html It should answer many of your questions. The phantom turn is not really what you want to be practicing. You want to be practicing the super phantom move. Flex to release when carving. It is explained in my video. The problem with all of what you have been practicing is just that, you end up being in the back seat. You really must obtain the skill of floating through the transition. Simply flexing to release will not make your turns successful as you have so correctly stated yourself. If you are not floating weightless through the transition you need to ski with a Inside Leg Extension technique where you not flex your outside leg to release but instead extend your inside leg to release. ILE vs OLF. Or a combination of both. A little bit of extension at the same time you flex to release. I would suggest you follow my progression in the 3 Levels of Carving. Here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vaPDpU1_OrU.html How can I help you further? Cheers, Tom
@Aditya-fv9xv
@Aditya-fv9xv Год назад
@@Triggerboy62 thank you so much tom for taking the time to reply to all of us. I'm sure you have far better things to do, but surely I speak on everyone's behalf when I say your input matters a lot to us.(especially since i cannot afford to pay a coach being a student myself. I can accredit all my improvements to you and your videos!) Coming back to your comment, yes I have seen both the videos, and it's just the floating phase I need to work on. Until now I have been far too concentrated on staying low and flexing through the transition, and as I result: I totally forgot about the floating phase! I have already practiced all your recommended drills, and they have been greatly helpful :D I hope the ILE/OLF tip helps with my problem! I will report back with the results after some skiing tomorrow! :)
@fourftr
@fourftr Год назад
Tom Love your videos and a big fan of Klaus Mair Could you offer a video for us tall people 6’1” that are intermediate level that are stiff legged and too upright I can edge railroad tracks on not too steep but when I get on steep blue to black I go straight into the back seat and all hell brakes loose
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Thanks for watching and your request. Brilliant idea. I am 6foot2 myself and the instructor Kenneth, my son #1, in this video is 6foot5 so we know a thing or two about staying in balance. IMO the problem is a combination consisting of short skis, soft boots, lack of strength in legs and core and a too upright stance. I am used to ski on 155cm skis so for me ski length is not a big difference but I would like to suggest at least 175cm skis. They are going to be more stable. Your carving radius will be bigger and turns wider and you will ski faster but I guess you are not carving on steeper sections anyway so a longer ski would be good for tall people like us both. If the boots do not support you well enough it is hard to make those quick recovery adjustments if you loose your weight aft. Be honest about your physical conditioning. This is a sport and not an afternoon walk. I know that my single biggest lack is in this region. I need to loose weight, strengthen my muscles and become more flexible. I have been putting off Yoga for a while now but I guess something radical have to be done after this ski season. We are basically all standing too tall. Me too. I need to become more forward oriented. I have a video on this topic. Here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0760JW5AjW4.html I am also a big fan of Klaus Mair. Interestingly enough I used to spend my winter holidays in the same ski area Klaus is from :)
@fourftr
@fourftr Год назад
@@Triggerboy62 Tom ,Thanks for reply. Wish you had a donate button so I could send you a tip. Today I leaned my upper body down the fall line and concentrated on getting pressure on the downhill ski. Man what a difference. For over 30 years I never realized I never had any pressure on downhill ski. I’m already a subscriber but would love to send you a tip somehow. You have me excited. I’m retired so I’m able to keep working at it
@Dr.Twisty
@Dr.Twisty Год назад
Thanks! But I miss your old music!
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
I do too.... but I can assure you, Cats Searching for the Truth will return :)
@skimama13
@skimama13 Год назад
This is actually one thing I have never been able to do well, follow someone's tracks. Something always comes up to force me off track: another skier gets too close to me, I see ice or something on that line that I don't want to ski, I lose track of the track, etc.
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. Yes, it is quite difficult to follow. As a ski instructor we need to navigate so that the student(s) are able to follow. We need to take in consideration terrain and crowds but also the individual different levels of students skiing behind. Cheers, Tom
@GregorPQ
@GregorPQ Год назад
Arms forwards, Madame!
@Triggerboy62
@Triggerboy62 Год назад
Great point. There are of course lots of improvement subjects but arms play a major role in "how it looks". Also how it functions but its an easy fix. Cheers, Tom
@GregorPQ
@GregorPQ Год назад
@@Triggerboy62 Yes, her balance was wayy off in the beginning, when she skied after him it got better, but you can still see her struggle. I know, because I have a tendency to sit back myself, like Bode, at least that's what I tell myself:) And the 'arms forward!' reminder really helps to come back to balance.
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