Goethite (Brown Ochre) is PY43 on my tube and on Daniel Smith's Pigment and Characteristics chart. I did see that Blick under pigment info says PY83 but I think that is an error. It (Goethite) is definitely not the yellow hue that we are seeing in Aussie Red Gold.
@@ClarkFineArt oh definently not the color you’re needing and ty for correcting me because I absolutely didn’t check that anywhere else and that’s my bad 😂😂😂 I was like idk that’s not yellow at all (goethite) but they do strange things to pigments 🤣🤣. I really enjoyed your mixing videos! Ty!
@@ClarkFineArtOooooh I love these videos, but cud U try this also in acrylic?? To find these colour matches in watercolour AND acrylics?? Wow that wud be so fabulous!!❤
@@blackpoppymagazine I haven’t painted in acrylic in some time and definitely don’t have collection of pigments I have in watercolor. If I were going to grab my pigments in acrylic and mix one of these colors I would start with the same pigments if available and try the same mix to see where it got me.
Great version of the DS version of this colour Angela!! While DS may *make every colour* they don't CREATE every colour.....the original Australian Red Gold was made before DS by Art Spectrum, an Australian paint manufacturer, as part of their 12 colour Australian Landscapes series of watercolours and oils that came out in the 90s...... hence the 'Aussie' word in DS Aussie Red gold....it's their dupe. The original is made of AS colours Permanent Yellow PY83, Indian Red 101, Flinders Violet PV19. This colour is also a rich, stunning Art Spectrum oil paint! I have both the original watercolour and oil sets....love them!! The other lovely colours of Australian Landscapes series, especially Pilbara Red and granulating Olive Green are also worth a look.
Thanks for sharing! That is really interesting! You should post a swatch of the original over in the art group on Facebook or MeWe, would love to see it. facebook.com/groups/3339107049438002
PY83 may be fugitive across most brands. I sometimes wonder if loner pigments found in one or a few brands have a potential problem. See for example Van Goghs light fastness ratings, which have similar ratings for carmine and for pr149 in Daniel Smith. They also have py83 and it’s not rated as lightfast. I believe their py128 which is amazing may be in a similar category when you see its rating in dusk yellow.
Aussie red gold is a beautiful color I have it in my palette and I love to use it for rocks especially like the big arch rock formations and plateaus in utah etc. Also in river rocks when the sun is reflecting off of them, or a splash of it in washes of fields or plains. It contrasts wonderfully with greens. I've also used it in portraits the amount of variation in one color is awesome, I'm very attracted to paints like that.
I think one reason colors like this are difficult to mix fresh from other paints is because the different pigments affect one another within the tube as they sit, all mixed together for a longer period of time. Especially if staining pigments are involved - I feel like maybe they stain the other pigment particles.
I think Holbein's isoindolinone yellow deep might work quite well in there. Their permanent yellow deep also has a very sililiar hue and in the wash might end up less orange and more yellow than the isodolininone, I suppose.
Great video! Your ability to construct the color and analysis of it is really cool. Love Lukas 1862. I have a lot of their paint and it's in my top favs for sure. Their English red is so rich and beautiful. As for DS, Aussie Red Gold is sublime. It doesn't take much of it to make ya go wow!
Daler Rowney also have PY83 I believe, it is their Indian Yellow. It is transparent and their version listed as 3* ie normally permanent.cit is very powerful. I suspect Daniel Smiths Gamboge would be a good start as well as that has the warmth and glow, albeit mixed pigments. It’s brilliant how close you got to the ARGold. Amazing job ❤ W&N are quite secretive about their newer cad free mixes. As they claim that they are not only a colour match but also behave like the original cads. It would be interesting if you tested that out too?
@@ClarkFineArtI wonder if Daniel Smith mixed their yellow with oxgall or aquazol, and left it to be absorbed, then mixed the TRO and Quin Red after so the yellow shoots out? I think the real cadmium colours do travel in W&N, I’m going to check that out and get back to you. I have the old cadmium red and that shoots across a wet page.
I LOVE making dupe mixes…I’ve gratefully had a lot of success AND “happy accidents”. But I think one of my most difficult “ingredient” is PV19 because of the range of hues that pigment comes in. I mull some of my favorite, usually 2-pigment mixes I really like-but even though I’ve found some PV19 mixes i love-I refrained from trying to mull my own. It can get very expensive…
Fun! Da Vinci just released a color called NEW Gold, I think to replace their Quin Gold and it has a similar formula PY83/PR101 without the PV19 (check it out) Michael Harding and Renesans use PY83 for their Indian Yellow and also Shin Han and Rembrandt have versions of PY83 too if they are less expensive than Old Holland ;). Aussie Red Gold is so pretty. Wonder how Old Hollands Red Gold compares
DaVinci New Gold is in the cart waiting for me to place an order! The other bands that you mentions that have PY83 are brands I don't have, so thanks for sharing I will have to look into those.
@@derwood206 I have just a couple colors in both those brands but the PY83 sadly wasn’t one of them. I will definitely have a look. Rembrandt is very reasonably priced
PS- so glad I have Aussie gold…my yellow pick would be Nickle azo yellow.. but in person it would be easier to see. I’ve really enjoyed watching you mix paint…think I’m just a nerd about color.