Everyone in the comments complaining about standing around and scanning ID's but I'm down to stand around looking at nothing whilst getting paid, just my two cents.
ive been pepper sprayed and everything you say is true. it's like you're touching a hot stove with your eyes, and it the pain doesn't stop at all for 30+ minutes.
I wish I had been in security forces but I landed fire protection and I love it. I always wanted to go law enforcement to sort of follow in my dad’s footsteps since he was a cop.
3 POINT 7 what was your score on the asvab? I’ve been considering fire protection as well but the agent I talked to from the af website says my score won’t qualify me for very many jobs.
I'm thinking of going the security forces route when I join the air force! I really REALLY want to work with K-9's. I have three passions... Military, true crime, and german shepherds. Thanks for this vid!
Extremely few locations are worth joining Security Forces but for the most part, talking about the 80% of people who work "flight" during your early years, you'll be doing a whole lot of standing, waiting, looking at nothing, while wearing 20 lb of gear working 12-14+ hours a day pondering "why in the world did I enlist.. ?" trying to find some purpose. It gets a tad better as you promote but most people in the career field between the ranks of E-1 through E-6 are always wishing they could re-train into another career field. Don't be fooled by anyone who says "it's an amazing career field". They either got lucky with assignments or they're playing you. In all seriousness, avoid this career field.
Elora, let me first thank you both for your service. I'm a retired Air Force MSgt. and we hear that a lot , people thanking us for our service. Some say it because they are required to by their employer. But I really do mean it especially and the times we live. My a very first assignment was at Duluth IAP(INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT), Mn. I was 18 and never really travel to far from South Carolina . So I had to ask my parents where the heck it was. Lol I spent years in Base Supply and was cross trained into Radar , Early Warning. I spent my last 10 years flying on a EC-130E ABCCC . There is a RU-vid video of us doing our job on" ABCCC CLIP ". It was a BATTLESTAFF. Before JSTARS came along. JSTARS and AWACS each took parts if our jobs and then they disbanded our squadron. Sorry about take up your time with me. When Brandon talked about SERES , I had to go through all that to fly. I'm glad I did it but would never want to do it again. Are either of you planning to make the AF a career? I hope so. My granddaughter and a grandson are talking about joining. My grandson is in JROTC He graduates this year. Thank you again.
I did 8 years with Security Police and had the best assignments in the Air Force and planned on making it a career. Then came Minot AFB and I got out. In hindsight I should have stayed in another 12 years for the pension. It was one of my biggest regrets in life. I miss the comradity.
Im planning to stay in the air force for the long haul as well i was planning through out to save put a down payment on a condo then rent it out then when im retired i have some kind of monthly revenue along with my pension. What career did you do in the airforce?
@@Kryptic_Karma Yeah, the writing was on the wall towards the end, Lol. I was going to cross train into AC Maintenance but I didn't want to go back through Tech school and CDCs for the 3rd time. I started out as an SP (Security Specialist). It was just before the switch to Security Forces. We still had Command Pins on our berets before the 3 career fields combined and switch to the flash thats on them now.
@@davidchalifoux504 Dang. Well congrats on making it all the way through. I'll probably do reserve or guard after my enlistment. That's what I'm leaning towards right now. I think cross-training into medical wouldn't be bad.. I just don't feel like doing the Tech School stuff again though. Not so soon anyways.
@@Kryptic_Karma You can go Guard and later on, find an AGR position. Best kept secret in the Military. You're full time active duty stationed with a Guard unit but you don't have to PCS anywhere. Just watch for job announcements whenever you go Guard.
I would disagree about the danger. I worked Security Police for 12 years and another 22 years as a civilian police officer. I was also a Chief of Police for 2 years. Things can kick off at any time no matter civilian or military. Never fall into the mindset that it won't happen here.
We had to go through the gas chamber several times without a gas mask, but luckily we were never peppered sprayed when I was in Air Force Security Forces.
I want to do security forces so bad😫, i want to be an MP, but my recruiter seems to not really care about me, he never messages me back or tries really..
I was in USAF Security Police from 1982 to 1988. I'm proud of what I did, and I considered it a good job. I worked with good people doing a thankless job. It makes me sick to think that Security Forces today is comprised of the drop shots and quitters from other career fields. Instead of whining, make the best of the situation and be the best Defender you can. Take some pride in your job, because when it comes down to it and push comes to shove, YOU are going to be the one standing between the Godless commie hordes while all those families on base are being evacuated. That means something. You should have learned in the academy that in Vietnam, AP's laid down their lives defending their bases from Viet Cong sappers and NVA regulars. Since then Defenders have laid down their lives fighting for their brothers in different places in the Middle East. 12 during Operation Iraqi Freedom. Security Forces has a history to be proud of. Don't badmouth it like it's just a "fall down the well - not fit to do anything else" kind of job. My ASVAB scores qualified me for any job in the Air Force. I CHOSE to be a Security Specialist. Have some pride in what you do. You're making yourself and everyone else in the career field look bad. if you hate it that badly GET OUT. you'd probably be better suited for the Army anyways...
Shits changed so much lol. I was security forces at Offutt AFB, Nebraska. Was in the mid to late 90's. I loved the job. It was so easy, except for the QC exams, always nerve racking. We deployed all over the damn place. Guantanamo, Kuwait, Saudi. Everywhere there's an airbase. Cool video
Just wanted to share...Grand Forks was my first assignment way back in 1989 ( SAC ) and was Security Police (old afsc 811X0 ) I worked out in the missile field, out in the cold, snow, rain, etc....holidays, weekends, Wing " Down Days " etc... never got them off unless it I was on " Break ". I thought just like you did that Grand Forks AFB " Sucked " BUT believe it or not there is a lot worse assignments ( FYI- NEVER EVER GO TO MINOT !! ) . So Grand Forks isn't the worst place to be stationed, but not in the top ten-ha ha. My advice...put in for orders and see the world! Even if you have to go to Korea first ( Kunsan AB 8th SPS Oct 1993-94 ). LOL " Sometimes you have to go to someplace bad, to get to some place good ". i.e. I got a follow on assignment from Korea to England ( RAF Mildenhall 100th SPS November 1994- January 1997).
As an ex SP in the late 70s and 80s, Police Agencies looked at LE SPs more favorable then Security Forces in part, they view Security Forces as the infantry of the Air Force.
From experience in the Air gaurd, I have full time opportunity, an opportunity to try for Ravens( 12 active ravens at my base) and an opportunity to help the community pretty dope
Bro I have no idea hahaha it was there when I moved in, I replaced it with a more mature fan so it didn't look like I was sharing my room with my 13-year-old brother lol
I’m current law enforcement so I’ve done both the gas chamber as well as getting OC (pepper) sprayed. I’ve also had to be shot with the X26 taser for 5 seconds. The OC spray was BY FAR the worst of them all.
Federal officer here, I’ve been shot with the X2, I didn’t do the gas chamber but I was hit with pepper balls from a PLS, both kinetic (it ****ing stings) and gas while sitting reciting our class chant. OC spray is the worse.
Elora, I literally love your videos and I'm trying to figure out what job I want. Lately, I've been thinking about loadmaster. If you could find one at your base will you please interview them. I'm really interested. Thank you.
ashanti Holland loadmasters fly a lot. Hence their name. They fly primarily on cargo aircraft I.e. c130, c 17, etc. great job from what I’ve been told, a lot of travel. Where ever the bird goes you go. You are the one that loads all the cargo, Weight plans, troop transports, humanitarian drops, etc. and some good $$$.
Luckily for myself, I’m separating in a year after being a part of Security Forces for 5 years. This video has inspired me to film a video about reasons why NOT to join the career field lmao. I’m here for yall!
I don't have a clue about military jobs... I want to join the airforce my recruiter keeps telling me all they are hiring for is Security forces... That sounds scary lol
Being in the Security Police isn't a bad position to be in and I would have enjoyed being in it rather than MMS where I was assigned since that was one field where they needed people in during the Vietnam War. I had to get out of the Air Force to get out of SAC (Strategic Air Command), and working on the B-52's. I put in two years in Thailand during that war and the other time at Minot and Barksdale AFB's. I went into the Reserves where I worked on A-10's and then into MAC where I worked on the C-130's, C-141's, C-5's, and many Civilian aircraft until I retired in 1999.
So, in the Airforce materials Security Forces is described as military police, but it sounds more like a security guard. I could get behind being military police, but yeah, I don't want to be a security guard.
@@maverick3987I'd rather be a Sous or Executive Chef with business ownership opportunities than a mall cop lol remember, we still get the same preference points on police or state trooper exams with any military job. And sometimes Departments would rather have fresh enlisted with no experience so they dont carry military police habits that civilian departments want to avoid. Not a bad if you wanna be a lifer and do your 20 and retire but chefs have business advantages with culinary expirence and maybe become a cop after I leave to carry 2 professions under my belt. Think business buddy. I'm In the Army as an Electrician but still want to become a cop. I'm starter than than the average Airmen but I chose the Army because they promised the job. So now I can either become an Electrician or Law Enforcement. Think about your career before choosing any job in the military. But my point is.. Military Chef doesnt sound that bad
Raul Reyes I understand, no worries. But Services in the Air Force is more than just chef, they do a lot, to include but not Limited to gym management (handing out towels). I’m pretty sure they rotate thru the different sections of Services, And that’s assuming you even get to cook to be fair. But i think we can both agree it depends on what your missions are or support and how your career goes. You don’t need a degree to be a regular city cop. Does it help, sure. Maybe staties, and definitely federal sectors want degrees. I’m a 7 yr SSgt, So I know my career. Just depends on how you treat it.
@@maverick3987 exactly you understand. I'm only a private thinking long term. So yes I'm not thinking of making the military a career and I care less of growth and rank because I wanna use the Armys benefits to become either a business owner as an Electrician or like I said maybe become a Police or State Trooper. Here in my State all you need is a clean record and a passing score and the academy is right there. But good for you brother. No matter what branch your in. If you dont have a plan you will never succeed and that's the truth💪🏽
I spent my first 3 years in SAC during in which I helped build one of the first EST [Emergency Services Teams] (SWAT) teams and got to go to a FBI SWAT School. I was also part of a deploy-able 44 man ABGD (Air Base Ground Defense) team that trained at Ft. Hood with Army Calvary Scouts. My second Duty Station was at a small Detachment in Turkey. I was the NCOIC of Arms and Equipment for the Security Unit (40+ SP's). I was also the leader of the Rescue Recovery Team (a Joint US/Turkish EST) in support of Nuclear Weapons. When I rotated back to the world Langley AFB, VA (Tactical Air Command HQ) I was chosen for the TAC Command Guard, Security for the CINCTAC (Commander in Chief Tactical Air Command --4 Star General). So in 6 short years I think I had very interesting and fulfilling enlistment. My experience helped me in my 25 year career as a State Trooper (Driving/Firearms/Radar/SWAT/Rappelmaster/Sniper Instructor-SWAT Operator/Asst.Team leader/Sniper)
I was Security Police from 1961 to 1965. Played on the base basketball team at all the bases to which I was assigned. Spent a lot of time TDY all over the States and several countrys playing ball. I loved my job as a SP when I was working. Gate guard duty or walking figure eights around two B-52's in the alert area. Wish I had stayed in and made law enforcement my career. SF is what you make of it. It's not for everyone.
Jacob Serrano it depends on what your doing and what your mission is for your squadron. For the O side, new LTs will work flight or supply until they get moved and get more experience. Expect to deploy soon and you generally rotate bases every 2 or so years. Hit me up on IG if you have any other questions. @kyledantoni
OspreyBravo18 Hey man, don’t listen to what people that aren’t even in the career field have to say about SF. I’ve been doing this for 4 years now and I honestly love this job. I’ll admit that it can really suck at times and if you’re not the type of person that can smile and have a positive attitude through the sucky moments, you’ll most likely not be a fan of SF and I’d recommend another AFSC. But if you’re able to have a positive attitude during the sucky moment (because there will be plenty) you’ll love this career field. It depends on your attitude and how strong you are mentally. There’s been times where I’ve been at the gate checking ID’s in -35 temperatures but there’s also been times where I’ve been to Puerto Rico for a few weeks and stayed in hotels right next to the beach. It’s what you make it.
Brayan O I’m happy to hear that you have been in as SF and I’m always cheerful so I believe it would be a good job for me I ship on June 11 any advice u recommend
Thank you for this video Elora Jean! I am interested in security forces and this helps a lot to be able to hear from a security forces member as opposed to a recruiter.
dude you should always go medical. its the only way for me. 8 hour duty day, few deployments, a/c, white uniforms, and NURSES by the pound... i was a surgery tech in a hospital and we had a 7 to 4pm duty day and thats it. sometimes you had to wear a beeper on weekends. this was in the 80s.
I respect those still serving, but Security Forces never helped me get appointed to a large-city PD. I would've been better in many other AFSC's instead of checking ID cards at gates and guarding assets.
Generally officers are more in a managerial position, so to speak. They have much more to do with overseeing the enlisted members. Officers in security forces aren't that common I don't think, the only officer in security forces I've seen was the commander, who is pretty high-ranking.
I've been watching your videos & they are awesome!! I was actually in Grand Forks for a few years when my husband was in & now I'm actually thinking about joining! Your videos have been super helpful! :)
I joined SF after 4 years in the Marines. They told me that it was the “infantry of the Air Force” and that’s some BS. The job itself sucks and the upper leadership in SF is even worse. It’s a nightmare and I wish I would’ve joined the AF as a Crew Chief or something. Just my honest opinion.
Troy33: It was a lot better when you had two different career field LE and SS. SS we did a lot of infantry training and spent time in the field. At least back in the good old cold war days in Europe. Sorry to hear your having a bad experience.
Sidney Lopez I recommend calling the base near you in your state get in contact with the operator and they will find The Squadron for you that has load masters. I recommend just looking into the job yourself.
The main reason for pepper spray exposure is to develop resistance to it. The more often you are exposed to mace or pepper spray the higher your resistance to it becomes. Also, you break that mental barrier that you know that you won't die from it even though it may feel like death itself.
yhird well you’re only having to do it once in you’re career so I doubt you’re building much resistance. It’s more for understand what you’re using on people and mental tougheness
Elora Jean Since you are stationed at Grand Forks you should take a trip to Oscar Zero down around Cooperstown and visit the missile facility there and see what Grand Forks did during the cold war, You will find it fascinating.
@@thomasryan2679 saved a mans life in a hostage rescue early 1975, took enemy fire south east asia 15 sept 1975, saved a man from a suicide attempt in korea 1980...so what have you done with your life? Slick!🎆
What do they look at when you're going into security forces? Do they did into your civilian med record? Do you have to go through the process for security clearances?
