In this video, I show the results of my seed experiments where my starting conditions are water that had been outgassed for a week. The results are quite a bit different than the last experiment as you will see.
for the past 20 years I have been using a "water vitalization" device from Austria, the company is GRANDER WASSER. The founder, Herr Grander, spent his life managing the forests in his area and had been observing and testing the water from natural spring found deep under the mountains, in old copper mines. He developed a way to "vitalize" the water and did extensive laboratory testing documenting the unusual characteristics. Interestingly his devices do not filter the water in any way, they contain sealed steel tubes filled with his treated "vitalized" water, the tap water simply flows in a coil around the sealed tubes so that it is in close proximity for a brief period, then it comes out of the faucet as "vitalized". My 20 years use and continuing are filled with interesting findings. I am only proposing the idea that your treated water placed in a glass next to the regular water is giving of subtle information, I would try keeping both the water glasses and seeds a few feet apart. Grander was an exquisit old men and was following to Viktor Schauberger's water theories. Greeting from Italy.
Interesting idea. I will keep that in mind next time I do an experiment. I really think it is the outgassing though. Your vitalization device likely does the same thing by agitating the water and accelerating outgassing. For the record, when I used tap water right out of the tap vs. outgassed structured water, I did see a difference and the growing trays were right next to each other at all times.
@@FractalWoman Herr Grander did many Petri Dish experiments using treated and untreated water bacteria, fungi and mosses were much less in the vitalized water, the density was easy to spot just by looking at the colonies in the water. This could be a simple way to test differences in the water.
@@FractalWoman GRANDER made available a small portable water "vitalization" device, a stainless steel sealed tube the size of a fountain pen, filled with the "Vitalized" water. It was meant to be used on the road to vitalize drinks as required, it was not magnetic, no agitation necessary, it was to be clipped on the outside of the glass for a few minutes. If this was done on fruit juices, wine and beer the taste would change, just by proximity effect, side by side comparisons got the attention of everyone I showed it to. My personal feeling is that outgassing was not involved.
@@francescotrevisan4453Agreed, nothing to do with outgassing in this case, it's all about inducing known energy state into the water. I have self made coasters that alter water and wines etc when placed under the glass.
As an engineer in water treatment I find your water experiment very interesting, especially the visible difference after the water sat for a week. In my experience, I have observed "jar testing" of chlorine residuals persisting above regulatory minimums for over 30 days when undisturbed and protected from sunlight. Sunlight dramatically affects the chlorine decay rate, and in as little as a few hours sunlight will inactivate the chlorine. Treated and chlorinated drinking water is typically stored for days or weeks in tanks or water towers that are open to the atmosphere (covered but vented and "breathing" as the water level and air pressure changes) with minimal loss of chlorine, before getting pumped into the distribution pipes. I want to run my own sprout test now, especially because the irrigation system for my garden uses tap water!! Other than chlorine, the "off gassing" process could affect dissolved oxygen and CO2.
@@FractalWoman Are you familiar with the work of Mykola Kosinov pushished on ResearchGate? In particular you might be interested in his papers "Reducing approximate cosmological equations to exact equations", and "FRACTAL THEORY OF PROTON MASS".
If I remember correctly from Pollock's book a hydrophilic surface such as nafion is conducive as well as exposure to infrared light. Have you tried any of the capillary flow investigations similar to the ones he did. Thanks for doing these tests. It's a curious effect.
Learnt 3d printing from omegazz channel and designed halbach array holders. Even I understood the Ken wheeler experiment. Here is what I understood and please try at your end also. Halbach array in the presence of external magnetic field will create rotating magnetic field and plane of inertia is like cone . That’s why Ken designed cone coil. For external magnetic , Ken used toroidal coil along plane of inertia. Mutual induction happens between cone and toroidal which will create oscillation circuit. If you have any questions please tell me your email I can even send you the diagram of Ken experiment.
I would be interested. Is there any way of posting it here? I don't like to give out my email address directly on this channel. Do you have a website or something like that?
Hai, this is great experiment result to see an outgassed make the color gradient in experimental plant to became similar. My guess is planting in a chamber rather than flat surface. The chamber will act as a medium to the gradient color from auto oxidation. You can find more contrast, with resulting more easier to spot a color different on leaf. flat surface always put bleak gamma from sun rays.., I have experiment in ionizing motorcycle engine, and gamma radiate made air - oxygen travel faster in combustion toward the flat surfaces.
Not only are the colours similar, but the growth rate is also similar. They also taste exactly the same. I forgot to mention that in the video. I am concerned that the roots though, so I think I may redo the experiment. The structured water roots had a brownish tinge which was kind of strange. Maybe they grew too fast and started to squish. I need to monitor that more closely.
@@FractalWoman Hai Ms. Lori good to know you are replying my comments. My suspect in brownish tinge is not due to plant grew to fast, I have my perspective in coefficient heat when the plant first sprouted. You should try to use plastic wrapper when the plant in ideate stage, I do think the result is outgassing would look similar to the video (treated / non treated). But in non outgas water the treated plant will be the same looking unhealthy, this ideate state can be evidence for heat from magnetic do structured in rich air environment. The non structured happen to outgassing because there is non air (only heat / plank). I finally realize why Feynman made analogies on how does plant sprouts. sparkle ✨
Not sure. I need to try different configurations. My primer bowl is a North facing bowl and my structuring device is clockwise. I need to build a South facing primer bowl and a counter-clockwise structuring device. That way I can try all four configurations, N-clockwise, N-counter-clockwise, S-clockwise and S-counter-clockwise. My gut is telling me that I won't see a difference as it is likely the outgassing that is the "cure" for the tap vs structured water difference.
@@FractalWoman Ken Wheeler pointed out that water must be exposed to the south magnetic pole. He has videos of how different plants look when exposed to the north and south poles.
@@zdenekbreza3770 I tried Ken's experiment using exactly the same sized magnet that he did, and I didn't see any difference. That said, I do plan on making a S facing primer bowl and when I do that, I will redo the experiment for the sake of argument.
Tap water is full of chlorine which affects growing medium microbiome. Removing the chlorine (outgassing) will most certainly alter growth of the plants compared to direct tap water. Inserting a new known energy state into the water is another subject, that said water energy states also affect/effect plant growth. What energy states to insert into the water ?, that's another subject again.
I don't think the magnets have anything to do with this. I once tried Ken Wheelers experiment with the same giant magnet that he used. I could not see any difference between the North exposed seeds and the South exposed seeds.
@@FractalWoman It does, they were only on the verge of discovering it, one magnet, or 40 magnets isn't the ideal set up though. But keep experimenting a few years and you'll figure that out probably.
@@8thsinner I have been experimenting for years. I did the experiment exactly the same way Ken Wheeler did it. I didn't see any difference. You said " they were only on the verge of discovering it". Who are THEY?
@@FractalWoman The many that have experimented on water...is the they I mean. I gave you a bunch of names to start with, did you get through their works yet? Don't get too bogged down trying to copy other peoples thinking though, figure out how nature does it, magnetics is a part of that but magnets aren't necessary. Also, meditate more maybe...
@@FractalWoman Start with the marble thing I previously described, it works, and you can taste the difference. You can figure out the math after that and start figuring out the geometry best suited.
