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SeerV4 vs. Nuqqet 

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@asphore
@asphore 3 месяца назад
14:44 it's very interesting to see seer overcommit because it doesn't know wavedashes
@caieelovesjesus
@caieelovesjesus 3 месяца назад
lowkey cool
@oxohashoxo
@oxohashoxo 3 месяца назад
Definitely need AppJack + Retals V Seer i wanna see demo players against the bot ;)
@UltrawideGC
@UltrawideGC 3 месяца назад
Should be coming soon 👀
@ADude-y3h
@ADude-y3h 3 месяца назад
It seems the only thing Ultrawide isn't capable of at this point is saying "Observation spaces"
@UltrawideGC
@UltrawideGC 3 месяца назад
Lol
@Ashws_
@Ashws_ 3 месяца назад
1v1 seems a more interesting challenge for bots and more intuitive for humans
@cristianaguilar8686
@cristianaguilar8686 3 месяца назад
QUESTION: Does hitbox makes a difference on its behavior and training. Have you tested what happens if Seer uses a different car?
@ransomm4838
@ransomm4838 3 месяца назад
bots are trained in a environment generally with octane, so making it use a other hitbox would most likely make it play worse
@jaxonk2357
@jaxonk2357 3 месяца назад
Can you use the games on ball chaser as training data? Like put seer in the position of each ssl on the field and then have it make a decision on what it would do and then lose points if it was not what was played.
@QuinTzzy
@QuinTzzy 3 месяца назад
ultrawide please make seer a dominuis version, us dominuis mains wanna play seer
@coryraszeja9414
@coryraszeja9414 3 месяца назад
Will it be eventually possible to use games against pros as training data for Seer? Or would the dataset forever be too small to be useful?
@ozfunghi
@ozfunghi 3 месяца назад
Psyonix should be a able to make an account for verified bots, that people can chose not to play if they don't want to, but if they do, the MMR gains/losses only count towards the bots' account. That way no actual players get hurt or helped by playing bots (basically training), but the bots get to cultivate their own MMR. Even if bots don't get allowed in the rankings, their MMR could tell you what level they are compared to actual players.
@oGangir
@oGangir 3 месяца назад
We need to see it VS a player like Dark or someone that moves fast using wave dashes. After observing these bots it comes to mind that they don't recognize wave dashes leaving space. A player like Dark is constantly wave dashing so it would be interesting to see if the bot counters it or gets completely destroyed.
@aneraxxmusic2343
@aneraxxmusic2343 3 месяца назад
Do you ever think it would be possible to make a unbeatable bot? Of course, this bot is unbeatable for 99% of players but do you think you could ever achieve a bot that is just way beyond human ability, perfectly pinching it into the net from everywhere on the pitch or is that not realistic
@UltrawideGC
@UltrawideGC 3 месяца назад
I am trying
@aneraxxmusic2343
@aneraxxmusic2343 3 месяца назад
@@UltrawideGC but how do you even approach this? I tried to make a Rocket League bot myself before and of course I'm not as good of a developer as you but I can't even get them to pinch, I don't know where you would even start to make them aim it either
@pjacefilms
@pjacefilms 3 месяца назад
I feel like it’s not that far off. Nuqqet is the best 1s player in the world and this was a close series. 6-12 months and bots will be absolutely better
@aneraxxmusic2343
@aneraxxmusic2343 3 месяца назад
@@pjacefilms but you have to consider that pros also improve, and they are able to find/exploit loopholes in the bots' game. So the rate of improvement of the bot would need to outpace that of the pro
@drmz_
@drmz_ 2 месяца назад
@@aneraxxmusic2343 it does
@leaf2271
@leaf2271 3 месяца назад
Question: Do you use the replays of these games for training the bot? Feels like it could learn something from them.
@enksxo_
@enksxo_ 3 месяца назад
does seer have access to info within the games live memory that we dont as players, and make decisions/calculations based on it? or is it just reactive to the ball placement/speed on the field? (for some examples, making decision based on opponents placement on the field via xyz coords/the angle of their hitbox/speed they travel at before impacting the ball etc.)
@ransomm4838
@ransomm4838 3 месяца назад
bots are trained in very fast paced environments using Deep RL, pretty much during training they get fed information about the game and get rewards for certain actions like driving towards the ball, so yes seer has access to info abt the game such as all palyer positions, boost, velocities, ball position, velocities, other boost pad info and more
@enksxo_
@enksxo_ 3 месяца назад
@@ransomm4838 interesting, thanks for the answer
@davidkosiba624
@davidkosiba624 3 месяца назад
Could you get Dark to 1v1 Seer? I think he is one of the very few player who would not really struggle against Seer cause of his very air, flip reset and dash focused playstyle
@ChurroTheViscous
@ChurroTheViscous 3 месяца назад
What's the meaning of seer? I didn't understand from the video
@Tyler.McGrath
@Tyler.McGrath 3 месяца назад
Is it possible to train a bot using a pro players gameplay as a starting point?
@Smiles_McGeee
@Smiles_McGeee 3 месяца назад
there any plans for seer and next to play each other
@hagelmannen
@hagelmannen 3 месяца назад
Whenever a BOT becomes so advanced, it basically beats out humans in every aspect, I feel as though the best next step would be to implement an artificial reaction time that's similar to our own. It's way too large an advantage otherwise, and will never be proper practice material for a human because of it.
@hagelmannen
@hagelmannen 3 месяца назад
Of course, it actually got touched on later on in the video 😂 but yeah, human like reaction times would theoretically make it valuable as a tool alone, I think.
@n.tgamertaan577
@n.tgamertaan577 Месяц назад
9:42 what the dashing?
@hanihabbal1875
@hanihabbal1875 3 месяца назад
You made a 1v1 seer?! Is that why it’s only on version 36000? Sick
@a.21343
@a.21343 3 месяца назад
1v1s? Lets go
@SeanCodingThings
@SeanCodingThings 3 месяца назад
1v1, let's go!!
@laynemccormic9102
@laynemccormic9102 3 месяца назад
what hardware do you use to train the model?
@willmehfoud1378
@willmehfoud1378 3 месяца назад
Love seeing these top 1’s/2’s players take on Seer
@jacquesstoop2587
@jacquesstoop2587 3 месяца назад
Do you ever include games against human players as part of training the bot to try to get it to learn new techniques like flip resets? I know the bots do many thousands of games against itself in training and one or 2 games is small compared to that but I was wondering if it might have an effect. I thought it might knock it out of local minima. Also do you do any training packs with it on its own?
@ransomm4838
@ransomm4838 3 месяца назад
no there is no point to training it against a human as exactly like u said it would have a small effect and wouldn't change anything. Generally big behavior changes takes 100's of millions of steps which is 1000s of games
@ransomm4838
@ransomm4838 3 месяца назад
the actual numbers I used could be off
@sweethomealabama121
@sweethomealabama121 3 месяца назад
the one dislike is from seer
@rawraro
@rawraro 3 месяца назад
What wheels does the bot have?
@asphore
@asphore 3 месяца назад
this design has black infiniums which is bakkesmod only
@Typical-H12
@Typical-H12 3 месяца назад
First
@Ujerhudkjejbeje
@Ujerhudkjejbeje 3 месяца назад
W video
@trevorlehman1435
@trevorlehman1435 3 месяца назад
Nuqqet is a bot. He looks solid af
@TheHjkkkl
@TheHjkkkl 3 месяца назад
Why did you choose the Octane for the bot ? You could make the car of your choice super popular accross the RL community Imho
@hhaste
@hhaste 3 месяца назад
He said it in the video. It plays best against the hitbox it uses. It would play worse against people that are most likely using Octane hitboxes. Changing it wouldn't make other people use it..
@shaun5657
@shaun5657 3 месяца назад
Damn 36000 mmr is insane
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