Sega Accidentally Made A Gaming PC... And I Bought One  

I cracked the BIOS password with the help of some Discord members by brute forcing a hash of it from a dump I made of the BIOS chip. It's i7DAXst4 if you have one of these and want to get into it. Here's a video where I go over what's in the BIOS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tNh6mFpbzvY.html

sega does what nintendont

I hate it when I accidentally make a fully functional computer from the ground up, darn wednesdays.

So my grandpa was a technician for a while and when he had gone to Japan for around a month he was working on this racing arcade cabinet(probably sega or sony) and what he saw was a straight up PS2 mashed in with a gamecube and a whole rat's nest of wires everywhere. When he had asked about it the owner said that is was so they could quickly load data from a memory card and the gamecube was good at rendering so that's why they were kinda just fused together into an abomination

21:09 Filming OBS off a monitor with a camera 😂 love it

The full StarHorse setups in Japanese arcades are wild. The floors they're on are often smoking floors too, so it really has a feel of a somewhat sleazy casino.

Kinda insane that a PC built for a horse betting game where mainly the only thing on screen is a menu with some horses in the back is able to run rdr2 at max settings 1080p

I've never watched your videos before but I'm instantly enjoying this, you're charismatic, your editing is good, your storytelling is good, and you're funny. not to mention you picked a super interesting to talk about, and it's even more wild that you bought the computer.

"Hi ShitHead" XD 4:48

That is crazy how Sega used an i5 8500 and GTX 1060 instead of a cheap arm CPU with 2011 smartphone level graphics.

I love computers with a fan strong enough to make it fly, literally.

Imagine they make a second revision of the ALLS, and put the revision letter at the beginning, so the first revision would be A-ALLS, while the second would be B-ALLS.

Up until 4:34 i completely forgot this was a video about a Sega computer, ya got me hooked in good. Great vid!

The "service" button is commonly used in arcades for staff to cycle through the settings without having to hookup a keyboard and mouse. They generally connect to a board that connects to a serial interface on the PC

As an industrial PC, it was absolutely guaranteed to have either FSP or Delta PSU in there.

Most likely the reason why you cannot remove the BIOS password is that these motherboards have a default password in the firmware. Since it was made for a Japanese company in Japan, you'd most likely need to search for it in Japanese and type it in with the Japanese keyboard that you of course have because you are using this board in an approved manner within an officially licensed Sega arcade cabinet.

There is NOT an overwrite for the bios password, these machines are quite secure. This is a special mobo model Gigabyte made for SEGA where the password is hard coded into the firmware itself. That also means that every StarHorse 4 bios password is the same should you find someone with it. It's also impossible to normally update the bios without serious hardware engineering skill (if there is a consumer update) because the versions won't match up to proceed. I went through this same ordeal about 2 years ago and had some of the first of these in the US that I'm aware of. Be very careful with the original drive or you can find yourself bitlockered out of it if it detects you've changed the spec of the machine even a little bit. eg. If you plug it into another machine you'll kill it. The serial ports on the ALLS you have should connect and control any LEDs and the vacuum fluorescent display (VFD) made by Futaba (card reader display) and are local to the seat. I believe the satellites connect to the main unit via ethernet. Even if you got your hands on a USB key to attempt a boot (SEGA reclaims them so they're rare), it likely would not boot without detecting the main terminal and it's possible the drive's game data has been wiped (mine were) before shipment. AFAIK, there is no community to restoring and making StarHorse 4 playable... so a PC gaming rig is a good recycle use case.

Sega has been making arcade hardware with PC parts since the Lindbergh in 2005. The one difference between the Lindbergh and the other PC based arcade boards is that it ran Linux. It's just cheaper to use off the shelf parts, which is why you see it in Sega, Taito, and Bamco boards.

You definitely gotta try dumping the SSD of the ALLS, you could maybe get the EXE for the game or maybe the key that the computer is looking for.

I've never came upon your channel before watching this video and I have to say that your commentary is very entertaining. Happy to have watched until the end. 2 thumbs up!

I know I'm late, but some things for you: . You're right about the COM ports, they are used for the touch screens. Their touch is sometimes are special, depends on the game. on 1 game (maimai), the screen is divided into specific partitions. They then are represented in a string of 0 and 1s and sent through UART. you can even emulate the touch using Arduino. . The service key is an external key, mounted on the arcade's frame somewhere. Not a part of the ALLs, so sold separately. it probably connects using one of the COMs, idk. actually, you can try smashing your keyboards and see if any will be able to emit the "Service", "Test", "Coin" keys. In some games, they are [1], [2], [3] (not numpad). . As you probably have suspected, the game needs a GAME KEY. It's a modified USB flash drive, sold separately. Usually, they'll issue a huge update every half/1 year and arcade stores need to buy them to get the latest updates and got connected to their server. yeah, they are $EGA. btw keys are different on different arcade machines/gens. . On older maimai game, they used "Ringedge 2". i3 540 + GeForce GT545 + 2GB RAM was used till around 2020. sufficient for running games that don't use the GPU intensely. . ALLs MX2 uses 1060 and MX2.1 uses 1660Ti and they are underclocked. They need to be powered on and display game demos for at least 16 hrs a day, usually 24. . as you know, mobo is modified. also, they don't use M.2 (never seen one before). I think most components are made custom for them. . If you want to dig around about sega arcade games, emuline has a bunch of folks who has dumped them and let you run it on a regular PC. pretty interesting to see people DIY their own arcade there. . I remember the HDD/SSD that is built-in is actually encrypted and can be unlocked by their mobo. I really want to try CTRL+ALT+DEL after the ALLs software start and see if there's a way to copy the data out.

There ARE private communities that share you private server configurations for Star Horse 4, but they are invite-only, and they only let you access servers in exchange for sending data in that SSD in case there are any new or missing content in the satellites or servers you possess. This also means they supply the software to people who do not own it to upgrade their own older hardware, or play it at home/online using a private stream of the Server. I don't have any more invites, but I'm sure someone will eventually come out to send one to you.

as far as the Bios jumper thing goes, on most boards you can just remove the CR2023 battery and then short the battery leads on the mainboard to clear the bios.

I found a few different things inside arcade games when I used to fix them, some had PC's, and the Time Crisis cab we had was a PS1 board, and the license to operate the machine was on a PS1 memory card, the USB chip port you can see is likely something similar where the arcade obtains a license to operate the machine, and that port checks for a "key" containing the license for a certain amount of time. Can remember if I worked on any ALLS but I definitely used to install Lindbergh's. The hardware was kinda a secret so I wasnt allowed to open them on the job, we always got a replacement and sent the old one back. I should find one so I can tear it down. I was impressed with how they could be turned on at 8am and run all day playing countless games until closing at 11pm... I wonder what was in em :P

I'm still using a 1070ti on my 1080p setup. What you should keep in mind is, while the 10 series gtx cards are very old, both graphics card speeds and the demands of the latest games have grown extremely slowly over the past 5 years. Until very recently the only thing pressuring me to upgrade has been RTX, not raw processing power.

Be careful about dumping. If its anything like chunithm ( sega rhythm game on an ALLS/ Nu ) they are bitlocker enabled. Your acae-(numbers) is the boxes swrial number. also you have an MX2 which is kinda the second strongest ALLS ( behind UX2 )

That PSU is not overspecced, and it's of good manufacture as well. Targeting 60% of average load is a good place to be for PSU output because it's ~generally~ where the PSU is its most efficient. This not only saves on electricity cost but also minimizes waste heat. Both are important considerations for this machine's intended application. Good on Sega. They clearly selected parts with an eye towards cost savings *except where it mattered most* for reliability.

That power supply has a 2 year protection plan available from Arby's. Incredible. What a time to be alive.

Had to laugh at the section of the video where you had your battle with the reusable zip tie. Interesting and fun post. Looking forward to watching some more of your content. 👌

Yo this Sega ALLS is practically the same hardware I built my PC with in 2016 - the GTX 1060 was honestly a great card and has a solid lifespan. The friend I sold the PC to still uses it regularly as far as I know.

Horse Gambling games are among the oldest arcade games I think. Initially, they were mechanical, but with advancements in technology, digital versions like this one emerged.

awesome video, i watched it to the end. informative and kinda hilarious at same time:D

First video i've watched on your channel, i think this is one of the best arcade related videos that i've watched... actually it is.

iirc the BIOS likely disables the Turbo on the CPU among other things that would lose performance for the sake of stability when operating 24 hours a day for multiple years. So any bad performance could be down to that. If you want a fun challenge, see if you can reflash the BIOS with the consumer one through windows using something like AFUWIN or whatever the equivalent is (of course back up the SEGA one first) but then you could access the settings.

a lot of modern arcade games run on some flavour of PC, it's a fun rabbit hole to go down (and not at all a gateway to playing japanese rhythm games at home for free, nothing to see here konami lawyers)

y'know? This is a rly cool video! Thanks for the cool look at this unique af system!

Great stuff I’ve just found your channel and I’ll keep watching

This really takes me back to my PC troubleshooting days. Things that seem like they should be so simple very often aren't, and searching the Internet sometimes helps, but often doesn't. PCs can be such a pain sometimes. Also, the "I was gonna do that anyway, but you're not supposed to tell me to do that." Was pretty much my reaction reading something similar in my motherboard manual. Even if it works, it feels like taking a shortcut that you're not supposed to talk about.

First time viewing your work and I enjoyed your humor. Fun vid! Keep you the good energy!

Thank you sir for this video - I've only seen this one but I am crying with laughter after your edge browser rant. Genius. You got a new subscriber.

Went to a Japanese arcade yesterday. This was the second most popular game there behind a rhythm game.

If you want to remove edge permanently you need to take full control of the directory, wipe it clean and remove all permissions aside from your own, then go into the registry if memory serves to essentially lock windows out from redownloading and installing it again. I haven't had edge on my pc in a long time. It does occasionally somehow get around it, but when it does you just delete it again and it won't come back for a long while. Just checked and it's still gone for me, just a shortcut in the start menu remains that I'm too lazy to delete. It also allows me to check if it comes back since the shortcut will become valid again. There are guides online about it, but usually it requires a bit of persistence to tell microsoft to fuck off with it. There are also tools you can get to force delete things that windows cries about, ymmv with them but they have been useful to me in the past. RU-vid is giving me the "keep comments respectful" popup. I guess they don't like people talking shit about other large corporations.

14:43 Let's take a moment of silence to appreciate how clean this CPU cooler is.

That was a really fun video. Great job man.

FSP does have the capacity to produce world-class PSUs. Solid company.

For bios removal. You can purchase a Ch341a programmer for around £10. I use these almost daily for motherboard and gpu bios programming. Good bang for buck with the voltage mod.

Your video editing and punch up skills are so good dude

Really enjoyed this video lol Dude your personality made it great

I guarantee that eventually people are going to start a whole community for getting these things working with original star horse 4

I love the Sega chant being used as a bleep for cussing.

good video. i dont usually like this genre. but it was good! btw, star horse is SO COOL, the kind of insanity you can only get in a truly insane country. I literally could not even have imagined that up and I am crazy for an American

32:13 I might be wrong, but I think this is a normal issue for Xenia. You have to press F5. Great emulator but still has things that need iron out.

As an arcade restorer and repairer it feels like a disservice to use this for gaming, but modern arcade hardware are basically modified PCs so I don't blame the curiosity. I don't know much about star horse gameplay but it more or less feels like the modern equivalent of Derby owners club, however the DOC games focused on breeding and stats of the horse as well as racing it so the gameplay isn't quite the same, the satellite setup however is pretty darn similar. the fact the ALLS uses parts like this makes it easier to repair by an operator instead of having to search for weirdly proprietary parts. Sega's choice in specs suggest the idea of "a device we can put on site that will last, isn't too costly, but will also be future-proofed for what this game will do". Anyway, Long Live the Arcades

The "fantasy" part is actually historical, referring to the Sengoku period(戦国時代) of Japan. The school girl part is likely a collab with a Japanese mobile game called "Uma Musume Pretty Derby." Personally I don't play it so I know little about the actual game, but basically the girls are the horses, yeah.

Epic. Thanks! I'd love to get my hands on that

I have encountered all sorts of fun oddities while operating and visiting arcades. A lot of Raw Thrills games have off the shelf PCs shoved in there, Deadstorm Pirates has PS3 menus on bootup, a DDR Supernova had a clear plastic PS2 inside a metal case, I've seen Photobooths running Ubuntu and Gentoo, a Yatzhee machine running OpenBSD, and a lot of modern games are running modified Android phone games.

The GTX 1060 has a feature where it can still function in a low power state if the PCIe power cable isn't connected. It should be noted that performance obviously takes a hit in this state.

I remember being totally flabbergasted a few months ago when I saw a giant section dedicated to Star Horse at an arcade in Kichijoji. There were only a couple people playing it, though this was late in the night. BTW, the videos are super wide because they play at the arcade.

3:19 I think that super wide aspect ratio is because it is meant for three monitor wide setups, like those shots of the game running you had right after playing those.

To reset the BIOS you just need to open a paper clip and touch both contacts on the board. If you're worried about your finger being in contact with the paper clip, wrap some insulating tape on the part that you hold.

I work for a large gaming (slot machines) company and video horse betting is actually quite popular in certain parts of the east coast and Asia. To answer your question most likely yes, your guess that there's server(s) running the video display while the terminals have a separate computing module is probably accurate. In fact just about all modern video slots and betting machines you'd see in a casino have computing enclosures very similar to the ALLS. They're usually smaller, but are essentially just customized PCs. For gambling/betting the boards are usually configured to include authentication chips or code upon boot to prevent someone like you from plugging in a keyboard and messing with it and to comply with strict state, tribal, and federal laws on gambling machines. So a person usually can't just grab one and use it easily as a desktop PC.

According to Sega Retro, the graphics card was made by ELSA, which was originally a German company that gone bankrupt leaving a Japanese subsidiary surviving. It would make perfect sense for Sega to choose a Japanese manufacturer, however I'd check it with GPU-Z or a similar utility to solve the mistery.

I dont often laugh out loud at videos but that conqueror of Celsius and Kelvin bit really got me.

For the youtube music problem, you can use an incognito window, and also, if you use the security options you can get access to delete edge's files

Subbed for the fun custom consoles, stayed for weird obscure computers. Yours is one of my favorite channels I've stumbled across recently, Bringleton.

1:02 To be honest, when I hear "Sega" the very first thing that reflexively pops into my head is the arcade scene - not the console scene.

Those cable clamps are easy to loosen if you feed the loose end back through the clip rather than pulling; they're designed to catch when pulled!

Enjoyed the humor in the vid, +1 sub. And for the jumper I would have just popped batt for 30secs as its not like there was much hard drives in it that u have to set up in order as boot drive ect. Still watching vid thou at the 18:37mark. Wonder if there will be a 3rd vs battle for a flawless victory

I have a buddy whoworks with arcades, i believe those graphics cards are actually slightly rare, and commisioned by sega.

Hi Bringus. I did a little bit of research on some forums, and the SEGA Alls system doesn't boot without the main server unit. Even if you got your hands on a key, or cracked the security, your chances with getting it to boot into Star Horse 4 would be very low.

Great video. I used to build games and animatronics for a certain Rat based children's casino for years. Recognized just about everything! SEGA is still very big in the arcade business - people just don't know it. It IS possible to bypass the KEY but you have to have a working one first, I'm afraid. Saved us hundreds of dollars in replacements. Some games sell their USBs for $1500~ to replace.

A bit late for the video but a tip for preloading any OS is using a VM on your main pc and use a external sata to usb adapter, this saved me a lot of time for preloading linux in a very slow old machine i got here

I thought this might be about the Mega PC Sega made with Amstrad in the early '90s

25:16 MySims build music still slaps in 2023

21:23 you use sata to usb to connect ssd to pc like a usb then use Rufus to install windows on it

I'd take out the storage medium, and replace with alternate. It may be possible to use the software, when used with an alternate OS. Or better yet, sectorcopy the medium onto another ssd/hdd, or to a file, so you can reverse any software changes.

Honestly, those are some of the best thermals I've seen in YEARS. Damn thing is built like a truck and one would expect it because it's meant to be left on 24/7. That doesn't excuse the ridiculously good performance on anything but the most demanding of titles. Slap this thing inside an actual arcade cabinet and you've got a literal 24/7, basically never have to maintain, emulation king, especially if you want to do old school stuff (don't get me wrong, there are tons of cheaper options, but I don't know if they would last as long as this batshit contraption).

One thing to note is that these are extremely efficient because they only have one purpose. so for gaming and saving power, go with an ALLS

I just realized that when I was in tokyo I saw an entire top floor of an arcade dedicated to star horse 4 (Or something indistinguishable to it) Complete with a smooking booth room. There were a LOT of people playing it too.

Since StarHorse is a game that runs on a chassis that uses a large number of monitors, I had assumed that several high-performance graphics cards would be plugged in, but I was surprised to see it run on a single GTX1060. However, this may not be the main board for the huge monitor, but the sub client-side board. That would make sense then.

Star Horse 4 was a big inspiration for the Uma Musume series. Horse race betting is a massive pastime in Japan because almost all other gambling is illegal.

It's unbelievable that SEGA is still making these hardwares even today! Their arcade quality is such an unbelievable to look at! SEGA is my favorite video game company of all time!

I love the logo to star horse! :D

Your description of the the server and satellites are correct. There's real horse betting with the same type of system setup in casinos lol

Starhorse4 was pretty popular, back in the day (i'm old) in my neck of the woods, because arcade owners (illegal ones) would pay real money for the bets. And the game was surprisling amazing for how deep and complicated it was mechanic-wise. It was the best representation of the experience of horse-betting without having to go to the horses races.

Imagine if after the fall of the Dreamcast, Sega decided to create Steam before Valve did

Lots of importers bring in SEGA music games like Chunithm, Ongeki, and Maimai. They all run on this PC. All Round 1 US locations have Maimai and Chunithm too. So plenty of these PCs in the states.

This video autoplayed wile I was watching 3DS videos, this is a pretty good video. 👍

no joke, these were almost the same specs as my old computer. I had a 1060 3gb, intel i5-8400, and before i had to replace the power supply, 500w.

Pretty sure I played an earlier version of this game (maybe 2 or 3) back in the day at my local arcade, it's more of a racing horse manager than a betting simulator, I only played it once or twice

Now I want to put a fully custom system into that chassis, as in using just the shell and parts while also dumping the proprietary motherboard. Maybe even use the key chip port as a BT adapter port.

The meow at 22:04 spooked the shit out of me

I don't know wtf youtube is doing, but it's been recommending me such good videos and channels. Thank you for this awesome video. Subbed. Your editing is so fun.

I love how you zoomed in on the scout and soldier when you said suffer at 27:07, its very jarring to see that since I actually made that exact poster!

So I just came across your channel, and this was the first video I watched. And straight subscribed because of this video. And while I loved everything about the video, the part that got me was when you got that random call and said "Who the f#$% is this?" I don't know why, but I died laughing. Sold!!

im so glad people recognize the amazing world of sega arcade hardware. i wish you would've mentioned the model 3 but that's just me being biased towards daytona usa 2

I actually remember another computer tear down by another creator, but it was a while back. You MAY be able to re-create the chip if you can find somewhere that has the chip info archived. Then you'd just use a USB drive to authenticate. I honestly wish I could remember where I saw it.

They're great machines for the purpose they're built for. But when something goes wrong? Its a PITA to get back up and running. Context? I worked on a Lindbergh that went in a Rambo cabinet. Hard drive goes bad? You NEED a IDE hard drive, you need a external USB DVD drive to reinstall your game. You need the PROPER GPU in there or the game will complain the GPU is missing despite showing an output on screen. In the end the owner of the cabinet got a multi game solution and that fixed all the issues. Sure its not the original uncracked software anymore but it beats trying to chase down errors and their fixes all over the place.

The fact that you use the SEGA start up sound as a censor queue is fucking hilarious. Please keep it up bro.

you can absolutely play star horse at home you need a server emulator and set your local host IP and port on the emulator then a launcher if it needs a key on SegaNET. The emulator spoofs the homecalls and the launcher usually hooks to the original binary and removes the initial reply needed to authenticate and allow the game to run.