Can You Use 8 Phones to Play 16-Player Mario Kart Double Dash? 

In a dramatic turn of events... I was right the first time. You CAN run a 16-player game with 4 devices. For some reason, hardly anybody has documented doing it with 4, and it led me to believe that you just couldn't do it with 4 Gamecubes. For the most part the videos and posts of people running 16 player games will always feature 8 Gamecubes... but I just tested it again with 4 devices... and it actually does work with the right settings. There will eventually be a part 2 (maybe)

Did you know that Nintendont on the Wii and Wii U via homebrew has broadband adapter emulation? If your Wii or Wii U is connected to a network, it can see all the other consoles on that network and play LAN Double Dash with them. I've done it over wifi between my Wii and Wii U. As a bonus, it also allows you to connect to actual GameCube consoles or Dolphin instances on the same network as well. I find it really cool that you could set up a PC, GameCube, Wii, and Wii U on the same network and play LAN between all of them.

That sounds like a software bottleneck. HLE just ain't up to the task

This has got to be minimal emulation variances which once, twice or even 6 times over the netcode between consoles can handle as packet loss but once you get up to 8 the failure rate becomes too high

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16:13 incorrect. on 4 systems you can only have 2 screens per console. but you can enable the coop mode to bump it up to 4 players. so you can get 16 players on 4 systems. also it turns out that once you lock in the lan session and when starting a race. the game actually disconnects the connection and then reconnects. (not sure why, but that's what it looks like the code does) and the crashes you see during these transitions seem to be caused by the systems not connecting in time. Also the menus are not perfectly synced if the connection slows down. meaning you can try to start a race, but the menu settings could be different for the systems. again causing a crash. however a funny work around for both issues is to slow down the emulation speed of the host to 60% before you lock in the lan and then return it back to 100% speed after the race intro is skipped. my guess is that slow down of the host gives peers more time to reconnect and prohibits the host from getting ahead. after the race intro screen the game seems to start it's proper network sync stuff. and it is then safe to return to 100% speed. overall each system seems to need to talk individually to agree on the game state. and due to emulation always being slower than the actual hardware the more systems you add the longer this takes. leading to frame chug. in my testing though 4 should be stable. Just make sure you enable coop mode and you can have the 16 player dream.

If it's any consolation... That unreleased LG phone at 16:43 looks pretty neat! Can't wait to see what gets thrown on that device. It makes one wonder how it got into an e-waste bin.

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I remember playing MC Pocket edition with some friends on the bus to school many years ago, We'd LAN over mobile hotspot and it worked surprisingly well, Host didn't even need mobile data available. Id like to see if you could do this with your phones, Atleast some of them.

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God I love the stuff you do on this channel. It has really gotten me back into tinkering with stuff like this appreciate ya man! Double Dash just really wasn't built for online and the Xbox deserves so much praise. The infrastructure on this was nuts!

I wont lie I personally would love to see a video on that LG phone as it was a phone that was manufactured and never released as their mobile division got cancelled, basically making it their last flagship. Also amazing video as always keep up the great work!

use 4 Wiis and/or Wii Us running nintendont and emulate the broad band adapter with nintendont and you can use classic controller as GameCube controllers. I have done this multiple times. You can also pair android phones and desktops with it as well (have multiple Game Cubes, multiple Wii Us, multiple android phones, and multiple PCs all runing together). I would be willing to show you how to set it up and show you my set up.

I love that you've attempted to set this up. I've done 8 player on my PC before (2 instances of 4 players each) and it was a blast. I'm thinking of just getting 8 nintendo DS's for mario kart DS, just for the ease of setup. I would literally be able to hand everyone a device, and we could have fun, instead of jumping through setup hoops, which doesn't usually work in a party environment.

I feel you should have used those android based translators you found to play 16 player Double Dash lol. Feels your style lol. Forgot to say, video was great, as always.

I'm so glad I found your channel. Your editing style and sense of humor is right up my alley. Loving your content.

This is a cool and fun experiment! Virtualizing this might actually be your best best, though. I'm curious to see the outcome of containerized dolphin sessions on XLink Kai

This was such a cool idea! I love the madness of playing these on a bunch of cellphones networked together. Getting six to play nicely together still ain't half bad! 👍 Also, did you know there was an exploit developed back in the day where you could use this local connection to actually play other people over the internet? The speed wasn't the greatest, but it did work! My buddy had it set up and used it a few times on actual hardware.

As a smartphone enthusiast, yeah that LG Velvet 2 Pro is an unreleased prototype! You can also find the LG Stylo 7 floating around the interwebs.

With all of the wiis you have you can run double dash on nintendont in lan mode over wifi or a lan usb adapter for wii

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Seeing that HTC10 struggle reminded me of how I returned my HTC 10 2 days after owning it cause it couldn't do anything without lagging badly or glitching. I think I made a good choice not keeping it if never was fixed.

As a massive portal fan I love the music 15 minutes in! I like how it adds to the story of double dash being laggy!

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I'd love to see a Wireshark capture of this all and figuring out why it all just crashes and burns lol

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Brilliant video my man, thank you!!

You are a madman and I'm here for it. Did you try switching renderers Dolphin MMJ(R) (if it's still around) on the older phones?

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Can’t believe he only included the hottest gamers at 6:00

We ain't getting the LAN party out the hood with this one.

Nexus 6P & Essential Phone, both relics of a time when some absolutely amazing feeling phones were being pumped out. Love these phones to death and will never throw mine out. Just might start to collect them down the line

please can you emulate DS on the flip phone thingmabob i just wanna see it happen

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Im so happy with people making mario content these days

I gosh darn love videos like these

Something you could have also tried is changing the graphics adapter from opengl to Vulkan since it renders a little faster in my exp. You could also chang the GPU driver if dolphin supports it which might have been recently

I don't know what originally led me to this weird niche in tech/gaming but I am glad I'm here. Do we need this? No, not at all. But is it fun to watch and strangely fascinating? Hell yeah. I hope you're able to get this fixed easily, I saw your comment saying you can make the system work. Good luck!

had to pause this to laugh at my nerdy ass finding entertainment through this dude hooking up 6 phones to play a game that is 2 decades old, what is life

Well, on the plus side, the devs now have at least one point of contact for testing any upgrades to the Broadband Adapter HLE on Android.

Wait… could you not hack 4 of your Wii’s for this?? If you see this, could you explain why you’d couldn’t? I’m genuinely curious. Much love dude, seeing your channel grow is awesome cause you deserve it.

This is amazing definitely want to try this!

Just really loved this video.

We share the same thoughts of having a bunch of friends all playing a game together. I purchased 8 switches along the years and always was dreaming of one day to have 8 friends together sitting in a room playing a local network games such as Mariokart 8. I purchased a 4 x to 1 x device so that I can connect 4 switches and using one huge TV as the output of 8 player Mariokart racing. So far only played once with 8 friends, but it was worth it. Love your videos!

Yesssss! I wanna see that Velvet 2 Pro video!

Dedicated LG G8X user here. You have a bit of a holy grail there in that Velvet, I wonder if it works with the Velvet 1 dual screen case.

This video was amazing.

That 2 per console part got me dead bro thank you 😂😂

Let's go he uploaded!

I can't believe you accidentally got a prototype phone

Apparently modded wiis and WiiUs can do double dash LAN mode, and you seem to have a lot of wiis already, besides that maybe getting identical phone models would help 22:02

You know? Maybe this whole setup could be made even cheaper running 4 or 8 raspberry pies, giving it a try like that would be interesting for sure!

Awesome work dude! 💯

4 Wiis and Nintendont could recreate the original experience. However, we run into the TV issue again.

Over the past few years, I've been collecting 8 GameCubes and Broadband Adapters for precisely this reason. I have the full set of consoles, BBAs, and over 16 controllers, but some are in poor condition, so I'll need to repair those. Some of the consoles are Japanese, so I'll also need to mod them to play the English game. Though, I still need 7 more copies of Double Dash, or mod them to load ISOs. I'm also looking for 3 more copies of Kirby's Air Ride for its 4-player LAN mode. Yeah, the downside with Mario Kart Double Dash is that it's random characters, karts, and tracks. I hope someone mods the game to allow selecting those someday. You can also use modded Wii or Wii U consoles with Nintendont, I think Devolution as well to run GameCube LAN games. Though, it's interesting to see it running on Android. The hardest part for me would be getting 16 friends to come over.

for the "8 pc gamecube mario cart double dash setup" you could use old lga 775 computers (all tho they would need a core 2 quad q6600 or a core 2 duo e7400 to work with good frames)

Try remoting your dolphin instances to your phones with something like parsec, steam link, nvidia moonlight (or sunshine if you have an AMD GPU). maybe you can do it for half of the phones, and the other half run natively. In my opinion, its seems like an implementation issue of the broadband adapter in the emulator itself, maybe search for a direrent release of dolphin, there are plenty of forks and several of them are specificaly made for lan or internet but i don't know is there is android port for them. good luck with you project, this is amazing

LAN parties were many a gamer's first foray into networking. Xbox and PC gaming launched a ton of careers via video games.

I loved this

underrated stuff

Definitely want to see a video of the Velvet 2!

LAN partied slap so hard Buddy of mine has a whole godt dang network switch from his old job just throwing them away... it's like a 2500 switch now used for half life 2 death matches

This is truly gaming

I distinctly remember running Dolphin on a HumanWare BrailleNote Touch + a couple of years ago. Basicly, it's a tablet designed for the blind with a braille display and keyboard, but runs Android. When my sight was a little better I installed Dolphin on it and hooked up an XBOX controller and an HDDDDMI monitor. MKDD ran at about 75% speed and Melee was really slow. It had a Quallcom APQ8096 processor, 4GB of RAM and ran Android 8.1 (which it still runs in 2023 for some reason.)

Love the use of spirit tracks music

this is also a REALLY good networking introductin

awesome stuff! i wish you will show next time Gran Turismo 4 Triple Monitor setup, with 3 PS2's 😊, 3 monitors hooked up with one router

My bro casually flexing is Bambulab X1 😂, nice video BTW!

I was just thinking about my htc 10 when it was brought up. Plug some headphones into it and it would be the best sounding double dash you can get, on an old ass phone.

Hopefully the devs would see this video and maybe fix some of the issues you encountered

pure. dedication.

def wanna see a video about the dev kit phone lol

I haven't done this with Mario Kart, but I have done something similar with Mario 64 Online. We had 6 people in the house all playing on various computers and laptops, very fun time.

Btw in dolphin mobile u can get it to tell fps and speed so you don't just have to guess, I'm sure u can also in the PC version ect but I haven't, I probably shouls

Also like, specifically which aires beat did you use?

Oh that's pretty cool

Best game ever!

I always figured the lan emulation was so you could finally have the dream of whipping out your phone and having PSO(with the O) where ever you are.

IIRC soft modded wiis can actually emulate the broadband adapter over wifi.

I thought you were gonna plug these into TVs for a proper lan party... honestly, your original idea of using virtual machines or just multiple instances on different PCs would have been way cheaper and easier 😅😅

I appreciate dashiegames being at 0:07

When you showed all the phones playing at the same time, the audio woke my cat up.

I'm actually surprised how well the HTC preformed, I used to have an LG v20 as my phone which has the same cpu/gpu and when I tried dolphin it was a good bit worse. that was a few years ago, so I guess they improved dolphin a good bit in that time

Ain't no way this guy gets a rare unreleased lg phone while trying to run games. That phone was gonna get released before lg quit making phones

Rest in peace Tongo, you will be missed.

I wonder if that other broadband option in Dolphin would've been worse or better.

yo that prototype phone is wild hahaha

hearing you say "a 20 year old mario game" made me feel old... this game was my childhood xD

I love the editor he is my friend now ❤

respect

couldnt you have just used your wiis?

I remember playing double dash and Mario kart wii was fun

Just a fun fact about the Xbox, Even up to the current Xbox series, if you run games that support lan connections, you can still play together, even if everybody is on a different generation of Xbox.

The lg velvet 2 pro was sold in Korea only I found one for 1k on eBay so you got the best phone deal ever