Sega on the Xbox (w/ Happy Console Gamer & Game Sack) / MY LIFE IN GAMING 

HappyConsoleGamer [Coury] Thank you so much for being a part of it! It really means a lot - I would've had no idea where to have even begin with Shenmue 2!

HappyConsoleGamer F that guy.

Game Sack L that guy

Nicholas Cabral F U

who the fuck is that joe guy ? never heard of him. Is he even a youtuber ?

Right? There's a video on youtube called "the original xbox is the sega dreamcast 2?" where not only are the games for the DC on the Xbox, but also the hardware itself is similar to the sega arcade machines. This is the closest thing we have to the dreamcast 2 for better or for worse (i personally say for the better)

Eh, sorta. Most of em were meant to be on Dreamcast in the first place. Some actually were. So it's more like ports with slight updates due to a little extra time spent on them. I still think Sega needs to make a new console. They definetely could now.

Panzer dragon outta which at the time on the original Xbox looked next gen.

It's awesome seeing the Xbox guru here ;)

Strekks [Coury] I had it lined up for a long time. A full playthrough recorded and everything - then I decided that its too good of a game and I love it too much to just give it 3 minutes in this episode.

I second this question. :(

@@Pichuscute I third it.

marcus ford [Coury] it still amazes me that I finally started to get it right during this time. I'll definitely be coming back to finish it in the future.

megamanfan1500 [Coury] That is exactly what we're going for. We want Friday morning to become a tradition, so that people can feel like they always know an episode is coming then. I actually had all of Panzer Dragoon Orta captured and ready to go into this. But then I realized that there are just too many awesome parts in the game that I could spend all of 10+ minutes talking about it.

Jason Rushing [Coury] Thanks! It was great having those guys on the show, especially since they have a much deeper love for Shenmue 2 than I do. But I think something clicked with it for me, recently.

car1it0sWAY Calling Sega a failure is wrong. Sega had a very strong presence in the arcade market, they made many of the best and most inovative arcade games in history. They had sucess in Europe and huge sucess in Brazil with the SMS and Mega Drive.

They were never a failure. To think so because they're not making consoles any more is ridiculous.

Sobou [Coury] Funny enough, the reason those two games are in that stack at the start is because this episode was actually going to be about 5 mins longer because I had segments for Otogi 1 and 2 shot. Decided to cut them out as I felt like the episode was long enough. They'll show up in a "MORE! Sega on the Xbox" down the road.

***** And I was going to comment on how Otogi 1 & 2 were missed! Can't wait for the PDO episode!

Michał Marek [Coury] Seriously, PDO is so amazing. I had intended for it to be in this episode, i had a whole playthrough captured...then realized I could easily, and wanted to, talk about it for an entire episode. It definitely deserves it.

***** Damn! I was wondering why you didn't put PDO into this video. Now i know and literally can't wait to see that future episode!

Captain N [Coury] I plan on covering PSO at some point - I put over 200 hours into the the Dreamcast version (version 1) when I was in college - absolutely loved the game.

gungriffon (series start on saturn), headhunter 2, initil d special stage , Tokyo xtreme racing series, thunder force 6

Sonic Adventure DX, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, Yakuza 1 and 2, Nightshade, Astro Boy, Virtua Quest, Billy Hatcher, Ferrari 355, Rez, Ecco, Virtual On Marz, Sega Rally 2006, Bass Fishing Duel, several Shining games, Beach Spikers, F-Zero GX, Skies of Arcadia. Lots of Sega to go around!

f-zero it's nintendo exclusive games.

Yeah, but F-Zero GX was developed by Amusement Vision, a Sega studio. :)

sega got arcade version

[Try4ce] Well, setting those consoles to a lower resolution, like 480p, doesn't seem to affect performance, because the game is rendering at the higher resolution regardless. Some PS3 and 360 games do render at sub-720 resolutions to save on performance, even if the output signal is still 720p. Personally, much as I enjoy 60fps or whatever, I'm quite cool with a solid locked 30fps with a nice clean image.

+Héctor Torres [Coury] Xbox is definitely on the list, its just a matter of time!

viewtifuljoe99 [Coury] Yep! PDO is far and away my favorite game on the system. I hadn't played through it in about 6 years (after doing everything 100% when it came out). Coming back again just drove that point home - I couldn't just talk about this game for 3 minutes and not come back. I could talk about levels 4 and 5 for longer than that! I needed its own episode.

+Helí Suárez All of the games in this episode were recorded in 480p and upscaled using a XRGB Mini Framemeister.

This video is almost a decade old so I'm sure you already know this 😅

***** [Coury] Hey I was working retail at the time too! Electronics Boutique! The Dreamcast felt like it was selling well still, but right after that prices of the games went through the floor. Yeah, at the time it was depressing, but its amazing how they really rode the wave after. I think most fans were ok because their output was so stellar.

***** Let's hope that their recent announcements for changes will bring them back to their glory days: www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/sega_sorry_that_it_betrayed_fans_hopes_to_win_you_back_with_a_new_game_announcement_this_september

***** That announcement is exactly the reason I said what I said at the episode! I'm really, really hoping its something special.

Back then, the hardware was also sufficiently different. There was the Xbox with its potent shaders and fast CPU and ample memory, but inefficient DirectX which caused high per-object overhead, and slow memory. There was the PS2, the fillrate monster with programmable vertex effects and multi-faceted hardware that you can, no, have to, micromanage. And there was the GameCube, which segmented the memory such that effectively you'd have a lot less to work with than in either, but otherwise offered a balanced performance. If a title developed exclusively for one of these systems was ported afterwards, it would be a cumbersome process and degradation would usually result. The next generation over, the consoles shared the same main CPU cores, and had high-midrange PC GPUs. The hardware micromanagement was mostly gone, Microsoft got its API overhead better under control. The systems differed just enough on paper, but practically, the differences were minor - while Xbox 360 worked mostly like a PC, albeit with an embedded framebuffer to alleviate memory bandwidth issues, and the PS3 had only a singlecore CPU with a DSP array hanging on it, practically the damage from porting a title developed originally for the other system was minor. The CELL SPE DSP engine was majorly used, for one, to merely cover up the shortcomings of PS3's GPU performance, doing the work that would be done in shaders on Xbox360, or for other, executed tasks that easily found home on the 4 extra hyperthreads of the Xbox360 CPU. And yet there was one system that didn't share technical traits or the library with these too, the Wii. But whether that's a system of that generation, or an in-between of that and the prior one, is debatable.

Yeah. I've heard the stories about the developers who ported Resident Evil 4 the the PS2. It might have been the game's producer who said that at the time, they weren't even sure if they could do it. That was a game made with the GameCube in mind. Still, I think Sega had a good strategy then. They could have chosen to put all their eggs in one basket and develop exclusively for the PS2, but I think by doing what they did, we got better games out of it and the developers were happy. I think there was that short period between 2001 and 2005 where Sega was still putting out quality games and still taking risks. I thought they were going to be a great third party developer.

Manuel Lopez [Coury] I tried to, for the most part, stick with games that were exclusive to the Xbox (at least at first) in the US. I'm a huge, huge fan of Phantasy Star Online - putting in over 200 hours into the original Dreamcast game, so when I eventually do future installments, I'll put it in there if I can. I've heard its impossible to play the Xbox version these days unless you have a GamerTag already installed on the system - and since I got this one second hand (after foolishly getting rid of my original about 10 years ago), and the death of the original Xbox servers, I'm not sure if I'd even be able to play it. It might seem more appropriate for the eventual Sega on the GameCube.

[Coury] Nah, I just found them online. Looked for karaoke versions.

+Teng Chang [Try4ce] Yep, there definitely will be an episode sometime. But in the meantime, yeah, component cables are probably the short answer, or at least a very good answer. We'll have to test out all of the possibilities more thoroughly before we're ready to actually do an episode, but even cheap Xbox component cables should work pretty well.

***** PS2 also got Space Channel 5, Headhunter, F355 Challenge, Ecco the Dolphin and Rez (and GameCube also got Skies of Arcadia)

Well I know my stuff but I am not one to recite everything perfectly. I don't even know F355 even exited to begin with.

***** I' wasn't dissing you, just informing you. And F355 is a fantastic racing game from Yu Suzuki (Shenmue, Virtua Fighter, OutRun,...)

The Movie Planet Sorry if it came off that way, I wasn't feeling bad, lol. I am just saying I am only human. :P

***** Additionally a reimagining of Shinobi (which is fantastic) and a follow up to it (that I still haven't touched) Initially it really seemed like Sega was firing on all cylinders. OH and Sega also had a hand in Odama and F-Zero GX on the 'cube

Juan José Rivas García I’m not sure if any Xbox’s support RGB, however the best way is to use YPbPr Component, as I believe you can even get HD resolutions, definitely 720p at least for most games.

@@justanotheryoutubechannel I already have both models of the official Component cables, they are up to 1080i, but just for a couple of games. But I want to try RGB using CRT screens cause it will be better that 480i trough a component cable with a CRT tv; the reason is RGB has better luminance than YPbPr, just by a few , but still better.

+overcooler [Try4ce] I'm not sure what cable Coury is using, but to tell the truth, I just have a really cheap generic component cable for mine. You can see the results in the most recent episode on Conker Live & Reloaded. It looks really good (I think), but the left and right audio channels are flipped (I just swapped the cables) and there is a minor buzz that I can hear if there's no other sound. For now it's fine, but I might look into heftier cables sometime to eliminate the audio issues. I believe there are official Xbox cables with a breakout connector for fiber optic audio, but I don't know how much they cost.

There is a HDMI converter for Xbox on Amazon. $25. works great.

[Try4ce] I finally got around to playing it earlier this year. I really enjoyed it!

It is? Oh i appear to have it on Steam. BRB installing.

Never gived much credit to BD, but when I had the opportunity to play it, I instantly loved it. It's an awesome and underrated game.

ShogunGino [Coury] You know, it wasn't until recently I found out that certain games wouldn't play in 480p on certain models. I'm glad that I lucked out and got the unit I did from Goodwill randomly.

***** Yeah, later models like mine don't have the capacitor problem, but they have the aforementioned glitching. It begins glitching right as the the logos pass before you get to the start menu. None of the visuals work right.

How do you know which xbox you got? I got outrun2 it works fine.

Mellow Gaming [Coury] Yeah, there are several that I left out for this episode. I had 3 segments I cut, Otogi, Otogi 2 and Panzer Dragoon Orta. The latter will get its own episode soonish, the other two will appear with several other Sega games I left out on this one, in an eventual "MORE! Sega on the Xbox" episode.

Oh yeah... Otogi. I still have one of those too. Man... I've gotta keep track of my games more.

I agree I have both. I wish that game caught on like their dark souls series.

VanillaFejz [Coury] Swedish FISH! My favorite candy!

They're speaking about a North American release. The states didn't get it on Dreamcast.

Indeed. He's the biggest fan of Shenmue by far.

agreed. make it happen internet!

***** [Coury] Well, since this episode only focused on the original Xbox, it didn't quite make it. But expect to see Rez appear in a future episode along with this pseudo sequel, Child of Eden.

***** Oh yeah. The "Xbox" part of the video somehow skipped my mind :P

Craig Luft [Coury] This is a good outlook to have. I definitely like JSRF more than the first game. I never really thought about the depressing areas in the game though - but I think I could understand. I just don't think I've gotten far enough.

Well, Sega didn't actually develop that one so I guess it doesn't count?

Yeah you are right its made by From Software the games on the list here are only published by SEGA as well.

[Try4ce] On Xbox, but not Dreamcast.

My Life in Gaming in Europe we had it but it had original Japanese dialogue.