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Self-Feeding Fire with Scout Fire Pit - Fail & Success 

Aspiring Caveman
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Some consider the self-feeding fire the holy grail of outdoor fires. (Gotta give the "Primitive Technology" guy a shout-out. It was his videos that inspired me do mine similar to his.) In a survival situation, being able to get a full night's sleep while keeping toasty could mean the difference between life and death. In this video, I am making two attempts at this. The first one resulted in a fail and I think it is because the log had a hard time staying lit even though the wood was bone dry. On the second try, however, the firewood advanced a total of two feet on its own! Proof of concept, as far as I'm concerned.
The fire pit itself is also something different. The term "scout" comes from the Tracker School. Legend has it that ancient scouts would use these scout fire pits in order to conceal their fires while on reconnaissance missions. They also tend to be smokeless once the fire is burning hot and it tends to stay that way if you feed it right. The problem here was that it is never spelled out what a scout fire pit is and how it's supposed to work no matter how many classes you take. The only clue Tom Brown gives you is that somehow it's a trench. Most people - including myself - tend to interpret that as scratching up the surface with a stick. Of course, that is never going to work.
I happend upon this design quite by accident. If you take a closer look at pit, it is a lot like a Dakota fire pit except the air-intake channel and the main chamber are one and the same. This is a lot easier to dig, for one. You are also able to burn long sections of wood instead having to cut the wood into smaller pieces, which is actually your best bet if you want to conserve energy. You may also notice from the video that there is a draft going down the wood and into the heart of the fire. This keeps the fire going the wrong way and lighting the entire lot aflame. When I saw the flames moving sideways, the proverbial light bulb went off.
The setup works well and I even tried it with 10-foot-long pieces. However, it is far from fool-proof. When using a bundle of saplings, better make sure that they are seasoned so they burn well, and that they are about the same diameter. A thicker piece will burn slower and may go out altogether stalling the feeding process completely.
Acknowledgement: As I said earlier, I owe a great deal of thanks to Dave the Australian "primitive technology" guy. I also need to mention Tom Brown, Jr., the founder of the Tracker School. I have taken a ton of classes at his school, and none of this would be possible without what I got there. Cavemen and primitive technology people of the world, unite!

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Комментарии : 27   
@metroplexchl
@metroplexchl 4 года назад
Excellent trial and error, sir
@djlyonol
@djlyonol 3 года назад
Interesting idea! How long can the fire last with a big tree log? Can it last through the night ?
@tamasszasz6590
@tamasszasz6590 4 года назад
Ez piszok jó! Köszönöm!
@mariaotero5601
@mariaotero5601 4 года назад
Outstanding
@orcawne
@orcawne 5 лет назад
I've seen ramps similar to the one you use with logs placed horizontally rather than vertically, but this was for an open fire rather than a pit fire. I'm wondering how you get heat from a below ground fire, if you make it to keep warm rather than to cook or as heat to work something. Also I'm wondering how if it's a Scout Fire, it could be improved to be more smokeless.
@AspiringCaveman
@AspiringCaveman 5 лет назад
Yes, the heat will radiate in your direction less readily with this type of setup unless you sit right next to it. The idea is that some fire is better than no fire at all. This setup is pretty much smokeless if you pick your fuel right. The walls create a chimney effect that makes for a vigorous burn. All you have to do is to make sure that your wood is the right size and on the dry side. In addition, because it's in the ground, you are less likely to see the light from a distance at night.
@claytonbennett1549
@claytonbennett1549 3 года назад
@@AspiringCaveman would this design be ideal for a temporary shelter?
@walterlucca4523
@walterlucca4523 3 года назад
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@walterlucca4523
@walterlucca4523 3 года назад
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@walterlucca4523 3 года назад
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@garylee8132
@garylee8132 4 года назад
All I see is the beginnings of a BBQ pit for a small goat, hog or calf.
@geoffallert1921
@geoffallert1921 5 лет назад
Just discovered your channel, Great stuff, Mate. Looking forward to more of the same.
@jianfabentsai2438
@jianfabentsai2438 3 года назад
Normally the two hands rotate a stick downwards method to create fire are limited to adults, what if the elderly or children need a way to start fire easily in shtf or wilderness? Will it be possible for the living adults to use big leaves, twine and wooden branches to create a fan propeller system that can be lowered up and down a fast flowing river to use the water current to rotate the wooden stick to create fire?
@AspiringCaveman
@AspiringCaveman 3 года назад
Once you learn how to make a fire well with this method, it is quite effortless. People of any age can do it.
@AdventuresofGraywolf
@AdventuresofGraywolf Год назад
A much more reliable way for them would be to carry a ferrocerium rod and a striker. The easiest in most cases is to just carry a lighter
@branni6538
@branni6538 3 года назад
Its producing smoke and light and isn't hidden as its a lot of sticks in one place. Not a Dakota scout fire. Radiant heat is zero as its buried. Its a great idea for self feeding but not a hidden fire or cooking fire. Unless in a teepee most hot air goes up with little radiant heat.
@branni6538
@branni6538 Год назад
Its a lot of work that fire. All Dakota's are hard work. The point of them being ........stealth. This doesn't tick that box. Yeah you can cook over them........i have in the past. I like what this guy is doing and how it's set up but it's not a stealth fire and cooking any food doesn't need that much wood. Its a cool rig but lots of work, smoke, unstealthy and lacks radiant heat.
@kekipark77
@kekipark77 3 года назад
nice
@mlovmo
@mlovmo 2 года назад
Well... SORT OF self-feeding. Still, it works.
@DcapTNT
@DcapTNT 2 года назад
Make it more like a rocker stove rather than dig a hole below then it can radiate more heat.
@ridesmule2824
@ridesmule2824 2 года назад
Ok you think you're so smart, let's see you invent the wheel.....oh, wait. 😏
@thepath964
@thepath964 7 месяцев назад
You need help finding the correct angle at which to insert the wood into the hole ... according to your wife.
@WalackSmith
@WalackSmith Год назад
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