It's not okay to be hateful towards anyone for any reason. Period. There's bad apples in every group and community. There's bigotry in all communities. However, they don't represent and shouldn't be the main example of a community (nor speak for the whole group.) That's not right either. Secondly, when someone who is trans tells you who they are and who they identify as, you should probably believe them and respect that. Bad experiences are just that: bad experiences. Bad people are just that: bad people. We need to rise above our differences and come together. We can not let bad examples likely from propaganda media guide us to feel unjustified prejudice. No one is discounting your experiences, just because they are finally accepting themselves and now trying to be who they are. I speak as someone who is afab, white and a victim of SA themselves (acute/criminal/brutal/aggressive) in adulthood and by a person of color too. (He hated me because I was white.) Should I then judge this horrible person's entire community based upon what this person (my abuser) did? Hell no! Why? Because it's wrong. All forms of bigotry are wrong. Originally, I thought you were against hate. You stood up for the asian community. Understandable! You even stood up for white people. Okay! Thank you for that. Why this now? I implore you to stop the hatred and think about your words and perspective here. If someone (from a certain group) has been hateful or discriminated against you, understand who that person is (one singular bad example.) Don't blame the whole group just because of a few bad examples. That is not the answer either. Think about it Charlie. Think about it.
At what point did I say these selfish individuals “represented” the entire trans community? Where did I blame the whole group? Show me - pinpoint the exact time. Also, I don’t have to believe anything anyone tells me about themselves. One could tell me that they’re a trigender tricycle, and I wouldn’t be spreading “hate” by saying that’s untrue - it sounds like hate to you because you don’t like what I’m saying, but it sounds like the truth to a whole lotta others. So you don’t have a right to shut it down under the veneer of quashing “hate”.
@@chinitocharlie Charles Charlie... I agreed with your last videos. I was a fan of yours. Please acknowledge me. You're young. I believe you can understand it from all perspectives. You're a lawyer. Despite all odds, you were trained to be objective. Please do try to understand the other side of things. I like you as a youtuber. I would not have a problem if a trans woman entered my restroom or locker room. Maybe not everyone is capable of being comfortable. I acknowledge as someone who is assigned female at birth, that some trans women are thinner, prettier, and more feminine than I am. They also act more feminine than I do. Not everyone is a stereotype. Not every person in a community should be the representative. That is what I am trying to say. Can you understand that respectfully, as I am a fan of some of your videos? ...Please... I understand your perspective. Please understand mine. Please?
@@charlottehonor7265It seems you are deliberately misrepresenting his beliefs and then only half representing arguments. The argument against shared bathrooms is having Men who Identify as Women who will ( and have) go into female washrooms and assault/harass them. That is an issue of safety and has nothing to do with biology or ideology.
That is rare that a criminal goes into a bathroom, misrepresents themselves and does that. When they do, they deserve what they get. However, real trans women aren't like that. "Real" trans women don't do that. That is someone who is a fraud. Frauds exist but they are not the representative of trans women. Trans women are women. They're not pervs. In fact some "biological" women are more perverted than some trans women. Truth! As someone who is a lawyer (as an objective legal representative) I implore you to respect that fact, Charlie Cheon. I believe you mean well and that is the reason I am reaching out to you.
Don't even get me started on the freaky TikToker who encourages children to actively keep secrets from their parents. If that isn't predatory and a massive 'groomer' flag I don't know what is.
woman's rights? You gotta be joking, been mostly woman after all who where in favour of the latest transgender policy's. In my eyes it's exactly what you deserve, whining and complaining for change but the second a "man" want's something we gotta respect traditional bounderies, as afformentioned, you get exactly what you wanted and deserve
Just go to Southamerica to get a normal holiday! They will brake your nose if you come up with any woke BS. They fight for survival, no time to f.. around..
When I was a young girl, so maybe a decade ago now, my sister and I were enrolled in swimming lessons. My sister and I would change in the women’s room, and one day this boy who was about eleven or twelve came in and was gawking at the women and the girls getting changed. His mother did nothing, and she was right there. I told my mother since I was highly uncomfortable, and she let the swimming people have it.
OMG i have this exact same memory ugh. In this indoor swimming place, after lessons, the kids washing room was not differentiated by gender, probably due to mothers having to tend to their kid. This one boy kept trying to look at girls while showering. It was soo uncomfortable I always went to a private shower after that. I have a hard time trusting anyone and am really private due to this
I am sorry that happened to you. That's never okay. If this person was a boy they weren't a trans girl that is all that I'm saying. Of course that's no okay what happened to you. It sounds like that boy who was spying was a peeping tom, creep. Just another awful person in this crazy world.
Exactly. It's selfishness. And it's selfishness because there are plenty of trans people who disagree. I've met trans women who say, "I use the mens bathroom or the multi-purpose bathroom because I'm aware that my identity can be uncomfortable or triggering or traumatic for biological women, and that my identity impacts me, it's my personal thing, and shouldn't have to be something I force others to answer to without their consent." The people who charge their way into the women's bathroom in the most entitled way are always the selfish ones, or the ones pretending to be trans and get a high off of making women look small. And it's actually really scary as a woman to me, to know that there are people out there who will gladly let that happen for the purpose of appearing "just" or politically correct when that is NOT the case at all
NO ONE should be living "their " truth! The only way we can truly live in peace together is that we all Live THE TRUTH. if you insist on living "your" truth. Then go live on the bush by yourself and don't infringe on my rights not to be forced to live "your Truth". 'Your truth" is just a synonym for " a lie"!
@@DuncanDonDuken not just RU-vid either, almost every platform prioritizes lying to cater to this group. I think the billionaire trans woman is a big bit part of the reason why. Lots of $ to push an agenda
What an articulate description, yes activist industrial complex. They often employ anarchist rent-a-mobs. Here are some more fun ones......antifa/intifada, anarchist/antichrist. Oh and let's not forget the classic - santa/satan. I think the real problem is that this generation literally has stockholm syndrome and is loving the social engineering, like religious fanatics.
Having all sports co ed would essentially run nearly every girl out of sports Why? Because in track, for instance, the first place girl would drop back to 6th, or 7th.....not eligible for any awards at all. The saddest part? No amount of training or dedication would change that. In team sports, nearly every girl would be a bench warmer, and those who did get to play would be at much greater risk of injury. All womens records would eventually be broken, all female stars replaced. It would be pointless for a biological female to even try to compete. All the scholarships and opportunities would go to bio males. Oh, but sports is supposed to be about fun and being on a team right??? Sure....so if that's the case, why is there such an insistence on the girls always taking the "L"?
It's funny because the trendy thing right now is women saying they'd rather spend the night in the woods with a bear than a man because of how "dangerous" men are, but it's totally okay for them to be in women's locker rooms. Yup.
If you think about it, any identity/lifestyle that conflicts greatly with existing norms will bring great social resistance/rejection, so the only people who could possibly choose such an identity/lifestyle would necessarily be self-centered enough to not be deterred by nearly ubiquitous social rejection. This, combined with the immense amount of attention (both positive and negative) that the alphabet gang receives, means that the "T" identity/lifestyle will be most appealing to people who are highly self-centered, lacking in empathy, and seeking attention (AKA highly narcissistic).
I knew that shorter men felt bad when I (5'10) was around them, but it still makes me feel bad. Most tall women got crap for being tall growing up so we're not thinking anything bad about you. Not the topic I know!
@@DeyTookOurJobs I felt that they did, based on things they say to me and how they act, and then Charlie confirmed it in the video. It's not all of them
@@DeyTookOurJobsWhen the boy who asked me to the high school dance specifically asked me not to wear heels, and made a point of telling me he was going to wear lifts in his shoes. We were both 5’9”.
Originally factories had one unisex bathroom but after many incidences of rape they separated into mens and womens bathrooms. ( only trains remained unisex ) . People forget why the separation began.
I agree, this is absurd! Should we let a huge boxer self identify as a bantam weight boxer, let him beat the living daylights out of the smaller guys, win all the bouts and get praised for it? No of course not! That would be completely unfair. How is this any different?
Thank you for calling selfishness out. Our culture has changed that term to narcissism. Making it a mental health issue rather than a character issue. As a mental health therapist I’m am absolutely about mental health care. I totally believe in and understand mental health issues, but selfishness is ruining our culture.
@@MoonshineH she's not pretending to be a victim, she is a victim...of unfairness in the sport she gave so much of herself to, of having a biological man invade the women only private space while changing but so much more than that she's a victim of the brainwashed hate mob. I see her as inspirational and brave for sticking to her guns and not backing down. I hope she continues to be supported and never cowes to the bullies.
@@cathall7210 Well looks like she's grifted you because the real reason she lost is because she wasn't the best competitor, plain and simple. Tell me, if trans girls can't be beaten, why did the two who beat her lose to cis girls in the very next round? 🤔
@@MoonshineH Never happened, Nobody beat 'her' there would be no issue if this was the case. You are brainwashed! Anyone who can find a pic of Lia anywhere but top of the podium I will profusely apologise and join antifa to protect Trans athletes rights.
my freedom ends at the starting line of other people's freedom. we can negotiate any grey areas, but we shall never impose them on others, at the risk of not having our freedom respected. if the above its not obvious enough, surely you will not understand more detailed debates.
thank you Charlie, for calling out what is the societal elephants in the room. Its so refreshing to hear because otherwise to pretend its not happening is the definition of insanity.
Great video! Everything is well spoken! Thank you for acknowledging that men have more strength and aggression than women. Yes we are all human, and deserve equal rights. Rights to vote, rights to work, rights to be independent both financially and at home. However our anatomy are still different, that its best to have separate sports and separate bathrooms and locker rooms. the phone case is too plain in my taste, to be honest. No offense btw
Intelligent, articulate, an incredible breath of fresh air, to brilliantly to show how it is clearly their "Selfishness". Thank you. (nice phone case lol)
@@nerychristian Yeah. Maybe. Stats are weird though, too. Kinda hard to imagine such small percentages. Astounding how much of a fuss the topic is tho for how few it actually effects.
You have earned a subscription, watched a few videos after your newest trump one, it is refreshing to hear someone my age speak about these topics… but more importantly speaking the truth.
My first objection to this kind of thing was reporters in locker rooms. It seems to have become a nearly very important issue since that decades-old concern. All I would ask persons to consider is that an absolute goal will harm absolutely. Forty years of my adult life went without bathroom politics; now, this.
Your portrayal of Lia Thomas vs Rosa Parks in the bus was brilliant. That kind of example should be used by everyone who speaks against this. I know I will.
Please run for President of the World - we NEED common sense and Logic/sanity back in society!! I’ve NEVER disagreed with anything you’ve shared or spoke out on.
Hate to do the "as a blank", but As a black woman, between your "what are we doing to white people?" To this video, the W takes are giving me hope for the future🙏
It’s 2024, I never would’ve bet back in 2004 that at this very moment biological facts and anatomy would be up for debate for years now; people suggesting the best possible way to curing racial discrimination of any and all kinds would be segregation and racial discrimination; never would’ve bet on college students supporting a terrorist organization that oppresses Palestine more then any other organization has before; never would’ve bet on the best way to decolonize a nation being to colonize it with unregulated mass migration; homeless vets scarred and disabled for life abandoned by the ones they fought for and the ideas that made all of this currently happening possible without the reeducation camps or out right slaughter of any and all who disagree with the currently popular societal faction/agenda. This is 2024 forget the headsets for VR no need for those when irrefutable truth is irrelevant in mass, god society as a whole needs an adult, (multiple actually the whole world seems hell bent on operating like “lord of the flies” ) smh
"living your truth" is, ironically, a lie- a statement that is a rebranding of the truth of what is truly happening here. It can be more accurately described as "living your fetish". You don't see this sort of thing being staunchly advocated for outside of extremely hedonistic people- people, where it could be argued, see self-gratification as the ultimate tenet- one that is far more important than things like truth and objectivity. If you read in depth at the sort of lifestyle that isn't publicly shared by Thomas, and the countless suppressed stories by trans widows, nearly all have overlapping themes of humiliation fetishes of varying degrees, with these men's warped perceptions of women as the source of humiliation. Is it so big of a leap to say that this invasion of female privacy is just an extension of the acts of humiliation that get them off?
Charlie I love your videos. How old are you? You’re so articulate that I feel like you have so much wisdom beyond your years. I hope to be as articulate as you are one day and I want to make it a goal to become more articulate by whatever age you are because it’s so nice to see such an articulate young person.
Dude be flying around the internet laying smack downs against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Hoooorah!
Bathrooms seperated by people with penises and those without were created to stop those without from being raped by those with, and someone with a penis going into the batheroom meant for those without is thereby a violation of there sexual privacy, and is at least partially excusing the disgusting actions of the men that took advantage of the mixed sex bathroom to commit reprehensible acts.
I appreciate your voice so much Mr. Cheon. I agree with other commenters however, in that we should not be calling people like Mr. Thomas "she". He is nothing of the sort and we all know it
What I find ironic about this whole discussion - and I'm not jabbing at you, here, only commenting on the objections I have seen to biological men entering biological women's spaces and vice-versa - is that people constantly harp on the Muslim community for their sex-segregation and dress code for men and women. Yet, now that women's spaces are being eroded in the Western sphere, objectors are making very similar arguments about the need to defend women's safety and dignity regardless of gender propagandists arguing, "But not everyone has a bad intention, not everyone wants to hurt others!" Of course not. But as you argued in the video, in the real world, when you increase the amount of spaces and times during which the two sexes may meet - esp. in vulnerable locations like locker rooms - you cannot ensure that people will encounter only the "well-intentioned" members of the opposite sex. It's Pandora's box - you will not undo the harm you cause once you've opened the door.
True, but islam is a bad example because when muslims come to other nations the instances of sexual assault ALWAYS go up. Apparently many muslims can't control themselves so the need to segregate things by gender is FAR more necessary with them. That is why they often go too far to the other extreme due to lack of self control. Ever since the west became more atheistic it has went insane. It is definitely much worse than it used to be. Islamic nations take things so far to the opposite extreme that even muslims prefer not living in them.
Muslims often take sex segregation to the extreme though. Like really, men can only sit with men and women only with women? In a public space?? A locker room is one thing, as being naked comes with a certain amount of vulnerability. But the emphasis of qan innocent handshake being "inappropriate" if it is between a man and women (not married or family) is just odd to most people in the world
This is like an old song that continues to play that eventually, it has lost general public interest. But first things first, if one has an issue about trans women identifying as women in places that legalized it, perhaps try to have that conversation directly with those who created the bill that now officially makes trans women, women. It's not a kind of one-sided argument people should have with those who see themselves as women, or men, despite being born otherwise, or those who are suspected of seeing themselves as women. Although I am not a trans woman, but I can only imagine how it must feel like for those who don't feel right about their assigned gender at birth, and if one doesn't have the ability to understand that by constantly focusing on the bad types of trans, or those who have committed crimes, making the rest of the demographic more prone to discrimination, then that's a form of selfishness that people likely miss about themselves.
Charlie please don't let the world stress you out man. It is ok to be an intelligent man. A man wanting to be a woman by means of severing..is scary af
