Seeing those HD280s triggers my OCDPTSD because of how many times I've seen Joe Rogan wear them the wrong way around. And when I say "how many times", I mean every time. He always wears them with the wired side on his right. It's a disgusting and immoral habit.
Got my pair today, orgasmic experience indeed. So precise.The sound reminds me my Neumann NDH 20. Just pure joy. Warm sound, flat enough and so much precistion. Sounds really natural.
All parts for the HD300 are replaceable and available from Sennheiser even the pads so you can keep them going even after harsh treatment. They said there is a fully coiled cable available but not on their website yet
The reason of 8-pin connector is because it has the variation models like HMD300Pro that has a mic for broadcasting. They share the same design. Therefore in this case the normal HD300Pro probably only using 3 or 4 pins on the connector while the other models use all 8 pins.
Thank you Z for this review! I love the sound of my HD280 Pro. I have many headphones but always go back to the 280s.... edit: btw the box of the 280 pro is exactly the same as the 300 pro.
I have 280, 300 and NDH 20. 300 is almost the best headphones ever, I love mids sooo much!!!! But base on 300 is overpowering mids, which is really unfortunate, I almost cried. NDH 20 is the best headphones ever but really uncomfortable after 30 min. Like really uncomfortable. 280 is the best headphones all around. If you dont have any of these 3 headphones, start with 280, it's only 79$ on sale. 280 sound very balanced, greats mids, great atmosphere, great bass, and detailed enough. 280 is a pure pleasure.
I have to disagree, 280 has abundant subbass boost, a midbass dip/hole, and unbalanced treble. What I read most people complain about is the vice grip. I wouldn't mind owning and using HD280, but I already have an old Irish-built HD25-1 II and an HD300pro.
The connector is from the broadcast/ATC line of headsets (HMD, HME/C series), hence both the TORX for securing it, and open pins for supporting microphones/ANC powered through P48. A bit overkill for a studio pair, but makes sense to reuse it.
well said. economy of scales, the save up money in both production and assembly by having both the HMD and non-HMD version use the exact same case, even if that mean having to put an 8 pin conector on a 3 line cable because that's the one that was designed to fit in the case,
Check HiFiguides.com It should sort down to roughly 10 headphones once you set a budget and formfactor. Thus replacing any need for mee to use the timeframe a headphone was released to categorize its greatness.
@@ZReviews yes, this site seems helpful to see what you can get in particular price range, but... We all know you tested so many of them, and still owe "quite a few" of them. But what if you were forced to keep only 10 or 5 of them? What if you had to meet the limitations of an average man (but still have the knowledge of Zeos) and owe only a few of them...? That is the question. Regards!
Good size soundstage too, due to the driver being set slightly further away from the ears than most headphones. This not only minimizes bass rumble, it also creates a larger soundstage.
@@thatchinaboi1 distortion is irrelevant, volume level is almost irrelevant as well, cup reverb is from lack of acoustic treatment inside of the headphone cups, often behind the driver elements, it's what gives closed headphones their "closed" and reverberant sound versus good open-backs like HD598, K612, HD600, and HD650, closed headphones that suffer much less than HD300pro from cup reverb include SRH840, DT770pro (actually has acoustic treatment inside), HRM7 (also has treatment), K553, even the DT880pro and DT990pro have treatment even though they are semi-open all the excess reflections or whatever hurt the soundstage and resolution, exactly like excess reverb inside of speaker cabinets, there are good reasons why studio monitoring speakers get a bunch of fiberfill inside of their cabinets I mod my headphones with fiberfill and/or transpore tape to alleviate the issue, but I know everyone else won't do it. HD300pro is pretty good up to a limited extent, and the impressive tonal balance makes it great for certain tasks, but clarity is overall lacking for a $200 headphone versus the competition. It's biggest advantage is the high passive isolation. Koss Pro4S is very similarly as balanced as the HD300pro, and K553 is also very close but has less bass boost.
@@Jason75913 I agree with your criticism on the 300PRO. can u recommend any material and how to apply that material and in which way/shape/pattern/form to be applied to get rid of the cup reverb? I would very much appreciate it.. thanx in advance
I watched this once, completely forgot everything you said about it, and had to watch it another time. I may gift myself a 300 pro, maybe the version with a mic on it, since that is a plus for me
I am not sure if it was with this model or with the now discontinued HD 380 pro, but for a while Sennheiser did offer to put one's logo on those plastic caps as you wanted if bought from their website. I am guessing they still do for corporate clients that buy in bulk
I believe the 8 pins in the cable and jack are because of economy of scales, the version with the added microphone uses those lines but they save money in batch production by installing the same plug and jack in all version even if some only have 3 lines in the cable. I too have owned a set of HD 280 pro for 7 years, which I use to monitor Live events and recordings, and was looking forward to the 300 hundred just to see if they added some more detail. I will probably still get them down the line but now they won't be a priority. funny thing is I would never have said the 280 had plenty of bass (comparing to other monitoring/studio headphones) and I actually expected the 300 to add a bit more, although I have never tried using them with tubes as you do
Mate... with all due respect, stop complaining about left/right indicators. On 90% of single wire headphones, the wire comes out of the left earcup, that's how you tell.
Yes, I know that. And YOU know that.. But I've watched a TON of people pick up a headphone that don't review them on the internet or have 8 pair at home and wear them backwards. Sometimes you need to fix things so bad people are not bad.
So I'm not sure if I'm the last to know, but I just happen to be on Mod House's website finally about to pull the trigger on some Argons when I noticed they now have a T60 Argons?!?! I never saw an announcement but I'm guessing you're just waiting to get a pair or getting yours converted. Can't wait to see the inevitable vid on them but just though I'd give a PSA to those who were blindsided like me...
I had the HD 380s... They sounded metallic and "hollow" so to speak. Didn't like that. But the bass was awesome, and they were really comfortable though, huge opening!
Mr Z has repeatedly shown us how easily he's impressed by huge openings, although I will admit that with more subscribers he doesnt seem as keen to fist the ports on new speakers.
I like the HD 380's a lot. More so than the HD 280's. I can't really compare them to much more than the 280's and my Sennheiser PC350 SE headset. Hopefully your 'hollow' critique doesn't mess me up and make me start noticing it lol :)
@zero signal I also dislike how the Dt 770 80 ohm sounds, but I had both the 380s and 600s, and the only thing the 380s had going for them was that BASS and their good isolation (and big opening, but that's a comfort thing)... and even that wasn't as well controlled as it could have been. Every other aspect just goes to the 600s, no questions asked. It's just the cleaner and more natural sounding, more detailed headphone out of the two, in my opinion.
@zero signal I actually like the narrow soundstage of 600s... I feel like no sound gets lost. You'd probably like AKG k712s, based on what u said. Large soundstage and good bass extension. (though a lot less impact compared to 380s)
I am a serious gamer. I am the guy listening for the reload or footsteps in the next room. I am trying to "graduate" from gaming headsets to headphones. The information here is awesome, but sometimes above my understanding. Could someone explain why he loves the Sennheiser 280's, but hates the 569's? They are both closed back (which I have to have because my gaming PC is in our bedroom and my wife doesn't game, LOL) and they are priced very close together. Is he saying the 569's are all midrange with no high's and low's??? I have an enormous head and have been able to try on the 569's and the fit was glorious. I loved that the 569's didn't pinch my wookie sized head and the pads didn't clip the top or bottom or my ears. Should I expect similar fit from the 280's? Thanks for any constructive help my friends!
280 fits any head. just make sure you get the revised version - much better comfort and sound, soundstage bigger than open senns. I play csgo and is the best headphone under 300 dollars i tried, and i tried quite a few.
Zeos, your channel is going to make me homeless. I was into mechanical keyboards before I found you a year or so ago and you have made me understand that good audio is more important than ANYTHING else. Fuck a house......because...... 789.....
You can buy these brand new on eBay all day every day for less than $150. I got lucky and got mine for $68 but these are seriously on eBay with dozens of listing's ranging from $100-$150. I also have to say that I respectfully completely disagree with your review of the 300's. Your description of their sound (what little description you actually did and especially in comparison to the 280) is waaaaay off 🤷. The 300's have a significantly better mid-range presence than the 280's and the bass has better extension, texture and detail. Better detail retrieval in the highs as well.
@@MadLustEnvy yeah actually no. Verified through SENNHEISER serial number to be real. Won and Sold through bidding auction from a reliable sennheiser authorized dealer as well. Know your facts before spitting out nonsensical comments 🤷. Even the sennheiser rep chuckled when I first asked to verify the Headphones saying they've never once heard of there being fake 300 pro's but to be safe ran the serial number anyways
I want to buy the HD 280s but I worry about the cheap flake-prone ear pads and headband. They can be replaced but Sennheiser asks an arm and a leg for them.. It's as if they are deliberately designed to last up to 3 years or so with frequent use so that Sennheiser can make more money on parts.. The HD 300s sound nice but they are beyond my budget.
All earpads of the various headphones in my collection only last 2-3 years. It may be that everyone "deliberately" designs the pads to fall apart. My Levis protein leather jacket from a few years ago is flaking, too. 😕
Ok so I've now got the HD280 Pro's (mkII), comparing them to my MT5's they have a bigger warmer bass, but overall are more confused and soft. Mids lack presence, and highs lack speed. They're ok for comfy sound, but quickly after a few minutes everything sounds like it's repeating the same sounds, lack separation, like mud. Very poor highs indeed, repressed, soggy soggy paper, overall just offensive mud, a cacophony. No place in the studio for me, or for just listening. There really isn't anything to match the MT5's, their presence, detail, speed, and overall flat but slightly coloured sound is unsurpassed. For sure not even my DT1990 Pro's are as good as the MT5's. MT5's are still king. There is a new legend - the MT5. Just compare a track like, Kraftwerk Robots, please try it. The accuracy and electronic aggression is lost to the 280's - but ever so present with the MT5's. I'm mentioning this here in the HD300 Pro review as you refer to the MT5's just after 25mins... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JRt5YHMqF5c.html
love the content. You ever do i guess package recommendation videos.. As in for X amount of money ($500/1000/1500+) what combo Headphone and amp you would rock.
Listening with my HD300pros, great sound except a bit hollow. And you know what? They are 99$ in Amazon once upon a time , and they are still for about 140$ in China!
after long searches, i finally came to hd 300 pro. Don't listen to Z shitviews...they are much more accurate than 280 pro, and sound really expensive and more controlled. the 280 pro are a gem but with geekria protein pads and truebass from zen dac(look it up). so in a word....300 pro = 280 pro bass, but much more controlled combined with the wideness and accuracy of DT 770 pro 80 ohm(not on that level but 85-90%) there. so in a word...perfect!...z reviews better take sony xm3 and have all the uncontrolled warm bass that u want
Ahh... silly question but can’t you just use the wire to determine which is left or right? That’s what I do. All my cans are single ended and connect in left.
I have the 6xx, and they are decently similar enough from what I know...if you play shooting games, especially battle Royales, the imaging leaves a lot to be desired
I dont understand what the neumann have to see in the comparaison. They are 500$ headphones, I bought my 300Pro 160$. If I had 500$ of course i would not take the 300Pro
If the Neumann is an HD630VB without the muddy passive bass boost, it is over priced. 630VB has fairly good quality, but the quality is around $200-250 range for a closed-back. $500 is ridiculous, unless the drivers are significantly improved (possible, but unlikely, knowing ol' Senn). I'm not willing to find out, closed headphones aren't a Sennheiser forte anyway.
Not worth the price increase, definitely not with the sale price of the 280 pro. $72 USD for the 280 and $200 for the 300? No contest. You can almost literally get 3 280s for the price of one 300. That's nuts.
It's better in every way, so a $100 price hike is not ridiculous. In fact, it is worth it if you already love the HD 280 Pro, but want something even better. 😊
@@thatchinaboi1 cup reverb prevents it from being as analytical as DT770pro, HRM7, K553, K371, ATH-M70x, and the list goes on, in my opinion It's not bad yet also not that great for the price.
How about Sennheiser would mark that L and R more clearly, its a daily fuqing annoyance, and clearly I can see that in your vids, since you mark them yourself.
What are you looking for in a DJ headphone? Looking to block out background noise? Then yes. Looking for a flat response curve for mastering your mix? Then yes.