my school band must be rare then cause my director is usually cracking jokes and we always have fun during marching band (band selfies, fun competing, ect) and we sound pretty good
Jazz teachers are either very chill or very harsh. Classical teachers like Taki tend to vary less in temperament but are often major perfectionists all the same. That said, any good teacher won't hold back from being honest. Taki was very realistically depicted. Reminded me a lot of my music teachers in both High School and University
I'm Unoriginal that had me raging, so you not expect to be practicing the same piece for a LONG time? What kind of band plays for a week and thinks that’s good enough?
xiiao hao whether it’s an anime or not doesn’t matter, what matters is that the characters in the show are lazy and overconfident, when they clearly show they don’t have enough pure talent to get by all the way to ALL REGION. That’s quite prestigious, and extremely difficult.
+Francesco A YES, THEY SERIOUSLY ARE. Unless they're conducting an elementary school, because yelling at tiny children doesn't go over well with the parents usually.
Loaf cat Really? For my band, we had to practice for 7 months before we went to L.A. for an international music festival. If we played like the students here, we’d definitely get a 45 minute talk about how our effort isn’t enough and that we’re complacent. It was..rough.
They said that and I was like "amateurs, I breathe in the whole piece that I could still play my marching piece three years later with no practice in between. Y'all don't know the real struggle"
I think a lot of people aren't really getting it. What makes Taki-sensei is smiling and calm when trashing the band's performance is exactly what makes it devastating. If he'd gone _Whiplash_ on them, the matter could easily be construed by the band members and the observer as his being aggressive and overreacting as much as or more than the band's poor performance. However, because of his gentle demeanor and matter-of-fact putdowns, the band is left with nothing else but to wallow in their shittiness..
Same here, I really got confused why people were saying he was nice and kind. when he was smiling through that whole roasting, I actually kinda got emotional and it kinda also hurt my feelings lmao
Soma Holiday They’re hard to compare in the first place. Here, there’s just a bunch of high schoolers, so this passive-aggressive approach is understandable. Let them feel like shit because they know they’re shit. In the case of Whiplash, the instructor conducting a prestigious jazz ensemble, and is going fuckin nuts to weed out the weak. Different circumstances lead to different approaches.
Taki sensei has what is needed to be a fantastic music director. Being nice won't make the sound better. Coddling students and being satisfied with mediocre sound isn't okay. He told them they are bad, and they need to practice in sections to improve. Having fun isn't good enough.
alphamone Yeah...if you’re aiming for nationals and not practicing with a metronome, you should just focus on regionals instead. Or just giving performances without competing. I was like “wtf” watching this...how could these kids not practice with one of the most essential tools for musicians and think they could make nationals
Never saw this show, just only this clip. At first, I didn’t get why he was berating them since I assumed this was just a normal elective course/club. Not anything the students were seriously specializing in, or even wanting to make a career out of. Actually, I was a little annoyed at him, following that train of thought. The kids might just be doing it as a side thing, so they may not be serious. Moreover, maybe they have other things going on that would need their attention more. But then he mentioned how they aimed to go to Nationals, and his attitude made sense. Can’t be lax if the students themselves want to aim that high. And if they’re not actually serious about it, then there’s no need to keep dreaming about Nationals. You either get it together, practice and take it seriously so you can meet your goal. Or you can take it easy and not get serious about things like competitions and performances. But don’t waste anyone’s time if you’re all talk and have nothing to show for it.
“Who thought it was good?” “Who thought it wasn’t good?” This is clearly a false scene, if this was a real band, nobody would’ve rose their hand because nobody would’ve known what the conductor wanted to hear lmfao
Diablito el Demonio have you not been at one of those music competition and you have “Von baron de la cremé”, a master bass flute player talk about how you don’t have the right flow to your rests? Cause I have and if you don’t think that conductors make some stuff up sometimes then you must have some great conductors. But I mean, yeah, I could tell something was off lol
EmiOkimeOtaku I like how right from the first bad performance the show tackled how differently people react to poor performances between musicians and people who don't know anything about music. I've never been into band/ensemble stuff but those first performances had me cringing.
Non-band people: “What a jerk. What does he expect.” Band People: “Wow...I wish our director was that nice.” Directors: “Way too soft at admonishing his students. No way he’ll get far.”
0:52 i really love what they did with kumiko's sad expression at this scene and the music notes falling off the paper, because i feel like her passion as a musician felt like it was dwindling because of how bad the ensemble sounded. I felt that way too when we had a shitty band teacher and when we played wrong notes that were clear as day, he kept going on, but until we got a new band teacher who actually cared, my passion for music had a spark it never had with the old band teacher and the music looked more fun than before
oh yeah, i felt this too back when I played the violin. once we got a different teacher who was garbage at managing the class, and everyone played poorly or talked to each other and stuff like that WHILE THE MUSIC WAS PLAYING, i lost passion and my playing got bad too. unfortunately i never really got back into it because the whole band class removed the string instrument section after that year and the same teacher stayed :p
This gives me PTSD "pls dont waste my time" "If you arent at that point, i dont believe you should participate it" "i thought to say to only gather once you're good enough to play in an ensemble" Hurts me everytime i heard that but it is true
The teacher was so fucking nice though. My teacher wouldve killed us. *One wrong note* "STOP STOP STOP, WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?! YOU CALL YOURSELVES A BAND?! YOU ****NG KIDS NEED TO LEARN YOUR NOTES!"
"Does he seriously want us to practice this piece for another week?" The bare minimum for practice is a month, that's why most schools practice in advance. A week is only for pieces that have repeating notes and consistent rhythms. I'm not in the school band, but I know how hard it is to practice music with a teacher around because you're afraid to make mistakes, but they're there to teach you how to be better. But if he gives up on you like this, you better stop complaining and just focus on getting better. Don't blame other sections on who made the performance/rehearsal bad, just help each other and yourself. I promise you'll be happy when the results are great.
How the hell was that clarinet so happy about squeaking?- If the clarinets (and my instrument, saxophone) in my band squeak, it's nothing but sulking and playing quieter. What kind of hot anime girl ego do you have to have to be so happy about that shit-
That's not it at all. If a director is speaking purely out of disgust, they'll speak out of disgust. The calm disappointment here is what you get from a director who has been frustrated thousands of times before and by now has realized that frustration doesn't do anything to troubleshoot an ensemble.
Dude calmly roasting the entire band reminded me of my very first jazz director. Dude would tell you exactly what you did wrong in a brutally honest way while wearing a smile. Only saw him REALLY lose it once when the drummers were having difficulty keeping time
The is the most realistic symphonic band representation in anime except the band director should be throwing the podium and the metronome would fly past our heads.
"When you're screwing up and nobody's saying anything to you any more, that means they gave up." - Asistant football coach to Randy Pausch after practice - "The Last Lecture"
My conductor back in my chinese music orchestra would've immediately chased us out of the room. He won't even conduct with the baton until we were actually good at it. Most of the time he'd use a stick so we could hear the tempo. It was like baby training :( Taki-sensei is a million times nicer.
ive never played an instrument, never listened to these type of musics, nor could i tell instruments individually from each other. i couldnt even tell what was wrong LOL
3:00 the conductor of one of my bands literally said something like this to the flugelhorns when they still couldn't play their parts one month before the concert (we'd been practicing the pieces for over 3 months already). The week after, they could all play it. Sometimes people really just need a kick against their asses to realize they're in a group and everyone depends on *each other* to make something a success.
Poot Potatoes my choir teacher is very nice and he even rewards everytime we did well. Whenever he gives us a difficult part to sing, he laughs and says "well damn this is going to be a ride for you" which gets even funnier when you see the troubled faces of the singers. And then if we sing bad, he'll have this really sad expression on his face when he would tell us that we're not good enough and it's in a pretty calm way. That makes us sing the song even better the next time.
The first time I watched this all I heard was: toot toot tooot tooot I’m no musician by all means, but after watching Hibike Euphonium I actually noticed some of their mistakes. It’s really amazing when Kyoani puts so much effort to even the most little detail that it actually means a lot. With or without music knowledge, both audiences can enojoy
I remember in high school my junior year, we qualified for State Band Festival, which was an amazing honor. We ended up playing Hebrides Suite, Among the Clouds, & Brighton Beach March for basically the entire school year. A straight 6 months of the exact same 20 minute program of music.
I was in a situation kinda like this once. My band just had a huge performance and after we went to a Master Class. The conductor there was really nice but he came down hard. I was singled out for a few minutes and it was terrifying. As a group, he was really nice and probably the nicest I’ve ever met. Individually, he made sure that you got it down but his calmness really threw everything off. It was a different kind of scary, more focused on making sure that you learned from it rather than frustration. As a musician though, the guy in this anime isn’t that bad. It’s worse when you have the conductor screaming at you in front of the whole band. It’s more comforting when they give you individual feedback. I wish I had a conductor that straight up told me what was wrong, not the cryptic “try it again” that you hear so often.
That clarinet that made that face when they messed up, though. Any other fellow band people that have seen that in your band? Gosh, I really relate to this!
