Sent to the Farm or Murdered? | Skelton Brothers and John Skelton Case Analysis 

That's so sad 😭

God, that is so heartbreaking. 💔😭

Maybe the car kidnapped the phone?

Amen! Dr Grande is an artist! 🕊💗

He was using sarcasm? I didn't notice.

It is hard to spot even for the most astute you tube viewer.

Also interested great suggestion

That is a great suggestion. I've been missing when Dr Grande discussed psychology without the true crime element.

Yes please! I’m unfamiliar with this.

I'd like this too.

I knew of a kid from a family of successful, good-looking, athletic people. This kid was sort of a misfit: awkward and unattractive. He was always treated with disdain by his parents, brothers, and sisters. He killed himself in his early teens. (If I remember correctly, he put a bag over the family car's exhaust pipe and then put his head in the bag.) After he killed himself, his parents and siblings all acted like they were glad to be rid of him. They wanted their family to project a certain image, and he didn't fit that image.

Me too!

Dr. Grande makes early morning a special time.

Oh god.. I just don't sleep. And I like watching them. That's probably why I don't sleep.

Dr Grande is kind of addicting.

Read my post (above.)

Once, while going to the theater to see "Ticket Out," a man told me to act so that there is no use in a center. Confused I asked him about the clandestine groups that assist children who are not wanted. At that point he remarked, "A wide action is not the same as a width." Have any clue what that is about?

@@michaelgreer9023 schizophrenia or schizoid delusion.

Very interesting, thank you for the reference.

People sparking up a conversation with a stranger at the movies? Appearing to go all deep and mysterious on you? Yeah, whatever do that for? Well, it isn't rocket science, that's for sure...😉

seriously, my husband doesn't mind at all if I stay up late watching grande because he says it helps him fall asleep (not cause it's boring but because his voice is so soothing!)

People would fall asleep while driving.

Even if they did take boys in thinking they where saving them I doubt they would lie when the police came looking and they where told the real story

Me, too. It's quite nearly 3am, and with a head cold coming on, I'm stuck awake. I'm grateful to have Dr. Grande to watch for some insight.

@@TiptonMama hope you feel better soon

Mornin for straya 🇦🇺

@@TiptonMama - Feel better soon.💕

Almost 5am in Arizona. Wishing everyone relief from colds and insomnia! Dr. Grande rules!

Good morning!☕

This guy is a real piece of work!

I could never kill my own that's just way past the line for me .

Imo once he had taken them to Florida I don't think the mother ought to have trusted him alone with them. I don't want to blame the mom but...

@@bthomson hmm. You make a good point but I also wonder about the dynamic of their relationship too, I could imagine she may not have had a whole lot of choice when it came to what He Who Must Be Obeyed wanted, not just in this specific instance but in general. I mean, dude ‘disappeared’ the boys and then spent years coming out with these obviously false stories. It feels a lot like a huge part of why he did whatever it was he actually did with them was specifically to cause their mother the maximum amount of pain and trauma. ‘I’ve taken your children from you permanently and you’ll never know what happened to them, you’ll never get that peace of mind’ is the ultimate mindgame to play on a mother. It’s the ultimate power play and the ridiculous stories are designed to twist that knife just that bit more. He’s a horrific, disgusting human being.

I was wondering if he really was scared she would harm the kids and that's why he removed them...

How about the red flag before marrying her...........???

Because he never loved them.

Yes I would love a thorough psychological analysis on why certain types of cheating men (in particular) become homicidal or feel the need to rid of their “past life” specifically killing children in order to start “afresh”, It would be helpful to understand the thinking behind this kind of extreme possessive behaviour.

I find this case less important than the case of involving a glass and a cousin, a spectacle joined to nothing strange. This type of difference is spreading, IMHO

Two interesting comments that I would like to know the meaning of?

One of my thoughts too. This father should have gotten therapy and more support somehow? Losing your job is a very demeaning thing even if you deserve it. As Dr. Grande stated you lose your identity and can spiral downward.

Consequences…there are plenty of agencies( AA, for one) to help alcoholics…but a spouse doesn’t have to hang around to see if it works. Personal accountability is a bite…

Yea Buddy has been in and out of those places and wife is done. I’m heartbroken but don’t blame her in the least.

Yeah I'm in Florida. We must be getting some of the same garbage weather that you are. And Dr. grande of course is good but of course I have to have a cup of coffee. It's never too early in the morning for a cup of coffee or late.

I agree, however this is certainly and tragically not a unique case (I.e Chris watts or murder suicides) where we see fathers premeditate the murder of their own children. It would be worthwhile for medical and crime experts to look into and develop a more thorough understanding to explain this seemingly “quiet long lasting rage”.

Especially when it leave the mini van a mess & leaves the tank on empty!

Since cellphone-chargers don't typically have grounding wires, it's hard for cellphone-parents to keep them stuck at home

Ugh, mine read your comment and is now giving me attitude! I’ll donate to your GFM if you donate to mine - I have a mouthy Samsung that’s demanding to go home to South Korea, yikes!

How cute! 👍

@@ElGibby It's a deal. 😆👍

Such a bad person. One would think he would break down and confess if he had anything resembling a human heart, but apparently he doesn't. Those little boys ...

Hi neighbor. I live in WA!

@@RegisteredNurseL.A. howdy from Portland!

I’ll be the delegate for Detroit

Arizona here! Good morning to all☕

We all agree!

@@bthomson Thank you my friend, how are you? Been trying to catch up with you. Least then two months, before our bundle of joy arrives. My obstetrician, and I are going too let my husband deliver the baby, as long as there are no complaintous , I love it and I'm sure he will too , can't wait. Thank you my friend.

To* "Too" is used as "there was *too* much milk in the bowl"

Revenge but moreso just loss of control. He wasn't allowed to have control over the boys. So he exercised absolute control and put a stop to thatm.

@@Katiee0592 thank you!

I guess that's why they incur roaming charges. Phones gotta roam!

Good morning LD! Always like your comments!💐

@@bthomson Hey! Good morning to you! ❤ I always look for your comments, always plain spoken and true! Truly funny sometimes, too. 🤣 I think Dr. Grande's sense of humor has rubbed off on some of the gang. 😉

@@LDiamondz You mean they have legs?

@@SanaLovesMahado1 Definitely. A couple of my phones disappeared without a trace. What other explanation could there be? 😉

Best of the morning Renee!

What must their own childhoods have been like? It is true some can break the cycle but it is not easy!

Yes! Such a sad yet very interesting case

I watched the film about that case recently (An American Crime); soul-crushingly devastating, absolutely horrific. Precious Sylvia truly was failed by every single person. I cannot fathom how every one of them chose to allow her torture to continue and not contact the police. They had SO many opportunities to save her. 💔

@@CEO_of_Autism_ ikr? WTF?? What an evil world. And the Junko Furata case is similar but it was a gang not her family and friends. Sad as hell.

You don’t know what happened, maybe the boy seduced her, she may have been naive and young and foolish.

@@LB-id6wf a 14 year old doesn't "seduce" an adult. An adult grooms and rapes a child. It's not a mistake. It's not a grey area. It is pedophilia. (Also your argument is stupid because how could she be "young and niave" while a 14 year old boy is a seductress? Just say you don't believe in male sexual assault and move on)

@@LB-id6wf she was in her 30's when the sexual misconduct occurred.

@@LB-id6wf she was 32. He was 14. Even if he had intent to seduce, she had the responsibility as an adult to shut that down.

@@LB-id6wf Please tell me you are being sarcastic.

Well at least it is rested and ready to go again!📲☎📞

@@bthomson 😹

I also hope they wouldn't fight over children like they're property. That made me so frustrated as a kid, your opinion didn't matter at all until you turned 12.

@@hanac5586 18 years old at our house, I got my own place 6 days after I was 18 & walked out with my bag.

MF - Wishing you a great day!🌞🌈

You are a hero! Well done!🎖🏆🏅

Good for you. You thought of others and not just your pain. Strong man.

@@beeblebooble4411 WTF is wrong with you...

That is an Excellent question!! Thank you for asking!

Dean - You did not imagine that comment! I saw it too! WEIRD!

@@bthomson lol thank you cause now I see the comment is gone

@@bthomson What did it say

Sheila Bellush, Dr. Grande.

Hi I stay in South Africa and the van Breda story is very sad and would also like to hear the thoughts of the Dr on this case thank you.

@@anniebotes5887 I'm from SA too! I remember that case along with the Jason Rohde case. Goodness there's actually so many. The Senzo Meyiwa trial is due to begin

There is a lady Nico Engelbregh that does True trime south Africa she is realy very good and you can also follow her...

OMG. How was he able to get access to an industrial ladle and furnace? Horrifying!!!

@@LizbetPCB - He worked at that foundry and knew it was down for that 4 day holiday, so he stops by, fires up the furnace and puts the boys into the ladle. As he was leaving the plant after killing those 2 babies, he casually told the security guard that he had just killed his sons and the police needed to be called. Truth.

@@clairewyndham1971 thank you!

LD - I saw it in Arizona yesterday! I waved!📲☎📞☝👆✌

@@bthomson OH no! 🤯 If it's not home in one hour, I'm going to track it and go pick it up! 😡 It's going to be in big trouble! I swear that phone's worse than my kids! 🤣❤ I hope it had the good sense to wave back to you and record it. 🤔

Timothy Pitzen case maybe. In that case the mother took the child and ran off then he disappeared, she killed herself and left info saying the child was being 'looked after' by 'new parents'.

Wow. That poor kid was abandoned by the father because the *mother* was unfit? So sad! Some men will do anything to abdicate their responsibilities:(