This defence is brilliant in finding loop holes. 1. Mngomezulu-breaks the door 2. Ramasepele-shoots the guards around 3. Mnisi- asks who is in charge here 4. Xumalo-hits the boss with a hummer on the forehead to reveal the secret 5. Mshololo reaches out the items and collects them and puts the bullet in the head.
@@RoyaltiesSouthAfrica-dm8mzreally dumb. Wasting time and not assisting the court with anything. They are just taking social media fame and running with it
What i have realized people here thy listen to evidence, when the witness leaves the court we frgt his / her evidence, team state do you remember the evidence of Captain Ngidi ballistic expert who testified bfr mangena. Ratha asked him if there's any link between the firearm and the Senzo murder Captain said no if there was i should hv included it in my report, again non of us remember the evidence of Colonel Mtshali commander in cleveland police station who denied that Mangena took firearm with open bag. Let us listen to evidence.
Jonas must come back. With Ngcobo, immediately after the question, he interprets, then the witness answers. I feel this style gives witnesses time to formulate lies in their head.
I would have a hard time answering them myself. Imagine being asked, What do you see? With so many visible things before your eyes. How do you answer? Name everything you see?
The issue we have is why is it open and not sealed if it is an exhibit or evidence to be tested...what about chain of custody and tempering with the evidence? its like the judge and the State don't care much about the quality of the evidence and storage of said evidence. And that is very concerning...
People are concerned about Mnisi asking the same question over and over again. But I did not hear the same sentiment when Sibanda asked Pinky same questions over 4 weeks. I think they are also biased as the court.
No man, that lawyer is a failure. He said that he was asking a simple simple question but he was struggling to put the question himself. The pot calls kettle black.
witnesses can say something different' ijoo ke mathata so between mapodisi le witnesses re tshepe mang janong?The more he talks the more a i contradict messsing up his script
@@abudlkader927who told you that? Where did you get such bile?? So guns that are about to be destroyed are not sealed and stored safely? Tjoh just go to the saps page and educate yourself before having an opinion and stop embarrassing yourself.
I don't know if is myself who misunderstood Mangena, I heard him saying he matched the Rudolf bullets before going to get the firearms, I was all along thinking that the Rudolf tested bullets were always with the firearm, defense laywers needed to relook at this, in my view Mangena had all bullets before going to Cleveland police station to collect gun with Rudolf exhibits
The defense can cross examine Mangena but they won't succeed because the witness, Mangena is protected by Ratha and Baloyi. Three of them, Ratha/Baloyi/Mangena know that once the fire-arm is booked for destruction it means there is no new case that can emerged as the guns/fire-arm are tested immediately after confiscation. Particularly this fire-arm was confiscated regarding taxi violence case and tests were conducted then it was booked for destruction. Gininda and his cronies including Ratha and Baloyi are cooking to protect certain high individuals
😂😂😂mangena is fraud. He knew that if he did the charts it will show that straetions are not found both bullets 😂😂hence baloi was objecting that it was not the assignment.
Mniisi is in his element...."found it in an open bag that was sealed" bottom line is it was open when it got to you...whether someone else had sealed ot before or not you cannot proove that all you saw was that it was open when it got to you...
And Brig Gininda is busy taking notes when he come to the stand he will be fluent then some people will say he is mopping the Defence. But there are many loopholes created by Mangena and Vodacom he won't fix that. Infact Mangena had put Gininda under water when he confirmed Gininda went to Pretoria the other day, but Gininda said he didn't.
Not only Gininda denied that Mogale and Mogano also shielded that Gininda was not anywhere near Pretoria North because it was jeopardize their alleged confession.
The question is, how many guns did you test,mangena will say a lot, (2)did all those guns had licences, mangena will say yes (3) why did you only choose to came with Chico's gun to show the court, sir you were here to clear Chico gun ...that's you have failed to solve this case
Mangena is clear about what he is saying, he clearly did his job aa he knows it. If you have nothing to hide you are confident in your own truth. People will say you are lying because you dont have the results they wish youhad but they are the true reflection of the events according to your findings. He is saying the same thing in different ways and with conviction🙌
He should be awake and attentive, mos he's jack of all trades and master of non because when he's confronted his mouth gets dry like your expert's evasiveness. I don't know who you ALL trying to fool. Your dominitus litis objects hogwash nje... and you seem proud, see your lives.
Ratha intsimbi ayigobi. Akabuki you tube akabemi ntsangu. His mind is fresh, uyazi incwadi ingati he is fresh from university, ver alert and attentive. Remembers everything said in his court. Has sharp eara and eyes. Wagwetywa wemntu🤞
@@mpasimoroka8179 Judge Ratha has a sharp mind , he remembers the testimonials as far back as last year , maninginingi has amnesia the reason he wants to refer to recordings time and again and even so never won a thing The Meyiwa family wants closure to this case and you are busy taking a side , imbecile
@NtombikayiseDanisa you mean the same Ratha that has selective amnesia? The same one that says yesterday, Mnisi said? O bua ka ena oo? A buellang di witness ha Mnisi a ba coner(a), are we watching the same preceedings? The same judge a kenyang mantswe ka melomong ya di witness? Come right, please.
@@NtombikayiseDanisa fresh from university 50 yrs ago during aparteit, not now, that's why he's so authoritative and oppressively interacting with the defense because he's already taken a side and allegedly made a judgment klaar!
Mangena is lying the fireArm is always on the forensic bag for the purposes of chain statements to avoid this nyakanya that happened that my lead in the suspected tempering
Remember he said 4 people has confirmed his work one of the 4 people is captain ngidi who testified last year n he said his analyze eliminates the firearm from the scene
Mnisi frequently struggles with complex concepts, particularly in science-based microscopic forensics. Mangena has to work hard to interpret Mnisi's questions and provide relevant answers. Mnisi would benefit from reading up on ballistics and familiarizing himself with key concepts to avoid irrelevant and illogical questions.
Mnisi has enough knowledge about ballistics, not to say he's an expert, but it's embarrassing that your "expert" evade direct questions, that says a lot about your "expert's" confidence in what he's feeding "my lord". It's very rich of you to question a whole lawyer who's an Adv. about his research about ballistics, which is not his territory. It says a lot about you.
You're just wishing, Mnisi did very well today. Mangena couldn't count striations as requested because Mangena's counting doesn't align with CMS. Mnisi had to teach Mangena CMS. Don't lie we are all listening hawu.
@mpasimoroka8179 Mnisi's questioning was frequently unclear and ambiguous. Had Mangena responded strictly to what Mnisi literally asked, it would have required a week of cross-examination for Mnisi to articulate any points. Instead, Mangena entertained Mnisi's vague prompts, such as Nmisi saying, "I think you understand what I’m asking." For instance, when Mnisi said to Mangena, "if you close your eyes," did Mnisi expect Mangena to interpret it as "in an unrelated context"? Mnisi's ignorance and/or ill-preparedness was evident to rational persons observing.
On that practical experience there on a screen, Mangena sounds like someone who wants to point out a mosquito in a screen to prove that a baby was bitten by mosquito 😂😂😂😂😂😂 his the only one who knows what he has done 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 and yet fails dismally to prove it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ratha is tryna help mnisi that it doesn't make sense if he choose to discredit mangenas findings based on tumelos testimony, and tumelo only: he's not even aligning the same version to other eye witness so it can stand a chance to discredit mangenas testimony.
Here it's clear that who shot Meyiwa. Snakho Gwabini killed by this hitmans. They was trying to hide the truth. Ayi ayikho impunga yehlathi. Ngibanjiwe bafana
Judge Ratha must step down. I am with thr state on the csse but he is a very poor judge. Why did he say Didnt Madlala pointed one of your clients.? It has nothing to do with what Mnisi was Questioning Mangane.
u a lying i am a great × many numbers of Bakololo the ancestors of a nation now called Basotho, we speak any language perfect depending on how long one has been exposed to it. Unamanga
@@kingphoka-uf5tk MAYBE WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE SEMANTICS OF LANGUAGE THE SAME WAY BUT SPEAK ISIZULU WITH A PEDI AND COME BACK AND SAY M TELLING A LIE
You tube judges will be their downfall. If these advocate ask what is your qualification, they say he/she was on fire. Oho akadlali yena uBaloyi ngk uy tumela ezinye i investigators so that avale sonke isikrokro abaya ejele baye bexolile
Mnisi is very intelligent but his grama is boring. Now, now, now, thank you, thank you, askeed asekedd. I'm proud of him but may he speak listenable language please
🤣🤣🤣🤣👏🏾 welldone Mnisi for making Mangena keep saying he recieved an OPEN seal bag...he is certain it was open and he keeps emphesizing it was open and sees nothing wrong with that but when Adv Mnisi started with his cross exam he asked him if about seal bags and Mangena said he does NOT recieve open seal bags yet now he keeps saying he recieved it....🤣 expert opinion, reconstructs crime scene without speaking to the people who were in the house.
@@user-tz9oe3gy5l I said how many bullets that hit the floor..ive never said Zandi was hit by a bullet...my question is based on wht Mangena is saying..he's saying he went to prisons to check accused legs...as zandi was also hit by particles ..n that bullet was never found..
All the people siding are the same people that believed that covid 19 fever was caused by 5G towers 😂😂😂.After all the evidence that's led nina you are still defending these nkabis 😂😂.Kodwa ke I guess you won't be surprised by 5 life sentences loading
Am not sire if i heard correctly. they said the first 2 bullets were not used so they counted from three to ten as part of the exhibits hence we have 8 exhibits@melissamichellemulandu209
