My cousin used to move into peoples’ houses with her husband and their kids, then refuse to leave. She’d say oh just a couple more weeks, then stay until they would have to get the police involved. The last time they did this, the elderly woman’s husband died, and the family needed to sell the property to take care of expenses and move their mom in with them. The only way to get them out was to sell the property for cheap and have the new homeowners call the police to get them out. They trashed the place and stole their appliances. She is absolute garbage and an embarrassment to our family.
Let's be honest their are far more scummy landlords than squatters. Which makes these laws necessary I don't side with them at all. But they have a pattern which is criminal.
I saw a RU-vid video on how this was handled, without going to court. The owner of the house provided a written lease to a large friend. The friend "moved" into the house in the late morning while the squatters were away. When the squatters arrived, he told them that he was living there. He ate their food, played loud music throughout the night and was basically a pita. The squatters called the police, but the friend showed the police a copy of the lease the homeowner provided to him and the police left. So basically, the friend squatted on the squatters until they left. I may have changed the story a bit, but that was the gist of it.
I agree. In my youth I did move a lot, and it was not fun at all. Besides, with all the effort that it takes to do that is better to just get a job. Feces like them do that for getting some cheap thrill out of it, not because it's easier.
Our laws need to change, they protect delinquents. I had a similar issue with a roofing company, taking down payments and then disappeared. Declared bankruptcy or changed company name. The legal system doesn’t do anything in going after these criminals.
Apparently criminal FRAUD is something the local DA didn't learn in school???? All he has to do is charge them, then cannot afford lawyers nor will they go to trial. Keep is a suffering check on this stuff!!!!
It's a win and lost the kids at least and dogs didn't have to live on the streets if this first world country truly cared about housing maybe we wouldn't be sending billions of dollars for warfare to other countries to kill themselves.
GramOfAdderall HELL YEAH ! YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO CHARGE FOR AIR, SUNLIGHT, LAND, NATURAL RESOURCES TO BUILD YOUR HOUSE ! ppl who have no money die in sub-zero temperatures, and rightly so ! ( vomit emoji here )
@@hobbygamer6220 Thank the government that allows for a banking industry that first determines the "value" of property, and then loans the buyers the determined "cost" at an interest rate which is based on how well and often the buyer participates in the "credit system" which just also happens to be run by these banks. Talk about organized crime?!?
@@DAllenMartinphotos Holy crap that's so silly wrong that it's hilarious. Absolutely nothing stops you from saving money and buying from a landowner directly and not even have a bank or credit involved. Embarrassing that you have fooled yourself into thinking you understand how things work when you're that far off. Banks are who you owe the money to because you took out a loan for the amount YOU decided to pay, the bank you owe generally had nothing to do with the price you settled on with the landowner.
@@ModelLights You've clearly never had to have your house appraised. I never said you couldn't buy a house from someone that way, but how many people ACTUALLY SELL OR BUY their homes that way?? Ya, I'll just save up $200K, like no problem, right?? The VAST majority of homes sold in the US involved all of the above, starting with an appraiser who determines the value of the house, because without an appraisal most banks won't loan the buyer the money since the house becomes the collateral and the bank wants to know it is worth as much as they are loaning out or more.
The following works for regular landlord/tenant eviction disputes AND squatters. 1: Remove the doors and windows from the property so you can, lol, "weather proof" them. 2: Load them up so you can "go to your shop and perform the necessary modifications." 3: Don't bring them back (due to equipment failure at your shop, if anybody asks). Depending on the season and the local bug population, they'll get out pretty quick. They can't file any complaints because they have ZERO legal standing for being on the property in the first place. As the property owner, you always have the right to do property upgrades, but "tenants under eviction orders" or "squatters" are NOT allowed to do any modifications, so any form of complaint will just be ignored. A friend of mine uses this method to evict nuisance tenants instead of the courts. It's a lot faster and as a bonus, the people on the property are so happy that they'll soon have new weather proofing (lol) that you'll usually get no beef while you are extracting the doors and windows from their frames. LMFAO!!!
Yeah your friend is a loser piece of shit. Ever wonder why rent prices are so high? I live in my own home and pay for it i dont think im entitled to own someone elses home and make money off of them. You deserve to get fucked over if you want to own someone elses home. Theyre literally mad because theyre like hey youre supposed to be the sucker in this transaction not me!
From what I can see, they were targeting individuals who weren't doing their due diligence to ensure they were getting a good tenant. Apartment complexes are larger companies that follow stringent vetting processes to ensure stuff like this doesn't happen.
I know, RIGHT? The renting process is hard enough the way it is and it's all because of people like them. The real crime is that it's a civil case, not criminal. I bet if they went to jail for 6 months while everything they owned went to the dump or auction and the kids taken away less people would even think about it, much less do it.
They got very small sentences also. Karen got 6 yrs~ convicted in 2018. Kevin got 5 years~ also got convicted in 2018. They deserve more time. Both of them.
Whatever Disgusting is the law defends the criminals befoe the victims. They should also be charged with destruction of property, tresspassing, identity theft, etc!?!? Absolutely Evil and Sickening!
The worst part is not just that they steal, but they also trash the property as they leave. How awful! It isn't enough to be deceitful, let's also leave dog piss and garbage behind!
@@temporaryaccount5698 ppl who dlont have money dont belong anywhere. either levitate or find all the space you need 3 feet further left from the left walk of the highest bridge. I have to admit ka suv's reply IS REASONABLE ! It's the highest degree of sickness and delusionism that has let ppl withhold the natural resource of land from ppl who cant PAY FOR IT ! 🤢🤢🤮
I've started a page on Facebook. Looking out for landlords here in Midland tx. Wish lots of people would past these people names around like hot potatoes
I wasn't financial free until my 40’s and I’m still in my 40’s, bought my third house already, earn on a monthly through passive income, and got 4 out of 5 goals, just hope it encourages someone's that it doesn’t matter if you don’t have any of them right now, you can start TODAY regardless your age INVEST and change your future! Investing in the financial market is a grand choice I made.
yeah investment is the key to sustaining your financial longevity but venturing into any legitimate Investment without a proper guidance of an expert can lead to a great loss too
There needs to be a Squatter shaming site, if you are caught squatting then you are posted on that site for all to see. This will mark all of the squatters so homeowners know not to sell to them.
@@aflamrecab1 That would be unlikely. The site should recieve enough evidence to shame someone. More than one occasion leaving the home. Told to leave while inside the house and the person refuses. They would need proof of deed too.
Father-in-law owned a Real Estate Company that managed a large number of rentals. By law, he was forbidden from contact previous landlords to get the history of anyone submitting an application to rent a home. If they could cover the first and last month's rent they could get the rental. He knew many times they were going to run out and leave the home with damages that far exceeded what they had paid. I also thought it would be great that you could have a nation wide database with names, ssn and pictures with history of rentals that property managers could access.
@@chaosncheckt9356 What state was this? I manage property in Maryland and I call landlords and I run credit before I give them the ok. I also check criminal background and verify employment and income.
@@sampleowner6677 Same here in California. On high end rentals we look a bank accounts. You want an $8000 a month rental. We are going to want to see an account with at least a $100K.
Which would make it a legal matter. I don't get how this ISN'T fraud, because it's not a government organization? It's individuals, not the state. Can we find a lawyer who'd know?
legally yes writing a bad check is worse its a criminal charge that can result in jail time. Squating is a entirely civil matter but this serial squating should be a crime i feel
So they lied in court, jail their asses, you don't get to keep claiming "I'm too poor to pay" when you're obviously not and you keep renting houses with no intention of paying in the first place.
I had renters try to do this to me once.....I entered with a gas mask & threw 4 bug bombs........as they ran choking.....I changed the locks with my mask on. Then I immediately installed 2 family members who had a ready made lease signed & in hand. When the police showed up.....it was much easier. For some reason the police are not allowed to actually kick renters out.....but since I already had the scammers physically out & had others in there, the police couldn't kick out my family actors. They had a signed lease. They showed the signed lease & hand written receipt for rent, then closed the door & said they weren't leaving & were done talking about it. When the police called me I ignored the calls. Eventually the police finally got around to asking the scammers for soe proof THEY had paid rent, which of course they couldn't produce. So the police told the wanna be squatters that if they thought they had a legal right to the place....(which of course they didn't as they never paid any money) they should take me to court. It's a shame all this was necessary but you just have to use your brains & get them out.
Good moves!....this reminds me of The Hunt for Red October, there is a time when Ryan said how the Captain wants the crew to get out of a nuclear submarine....willingly......eventually they made a false reactor leak which done the job and emptied the subs...so you need to create a false emergency smoke screen just to emptied the house...bravos
@@nyotauhura7412 I didn't hear anything illegal in the story... At least nothing anyone could prove. He could have moved into the house also, it was his and they had no proof they paid rent.
SUGAR DOLLAR DADDY no sense of reality? What crack infused reality do you live in? The fictional concept of any “privilege” is far from reality. Unless, you’re born into a well off family, but that’s not bound by any specific race. All you’re doing is finding something to blame so you can be lazy and do nothing. On top of which, you further segregate races and ethnicities by claiming such none sense. You realize if there is something that needs to be changed, the only way to do so is by a unified country and not a divided one, right? Also, I’m Hispanic and happen to be pretty fit. If we’re going off of what names suggest, where should I start on that ignorant ass name?
SUGAR DOLLAR DADDY so that is why black people are attending Trump rallies holding signs, Blacks for Trump. All Republican, white, black and brown are complicit in not standing up to Trump. I am a Canadian looking at the USA from the outside thinking wtf. I miss Obama.
Put some Medeco locks on, screw in the window's at every corner, put a steel deadbolt knob cover over the lock on the inside, and anti-shatter film over all windows to keep the squatters out. With actual paying renters, just install #9 or #10 locks or locks stores use.
The court doesn't deal with judgments. Each individual landlord must go through the legal process to get their money back. Unless they do it without an attorney, for 4 digit judgments, it costs more $$$ in attorneys fees than the actual judgement. The system is really fucked up.
The collection agency that these stinkweeds run is fake and they have pretended to be lawyers. Now they're in prison with all the other big stinking losers
I'm trying to figure out why or how the courts don't see that their habitual squatters and still get away with it?? Their keep leading a paper trail...It's not like it's hard to find them..
How can someone live like that, especially a family with kids. Can you imagine how hard that would be on them physically and mentally!? Kids need to feel secure and be able to put down roots!
That was my first thought, as well. How on earth can anyone live this way... All that stress all the time... just put that energy into paying the rent.
Well I look at it like this as soumboty that has bot paed rent In 4+ years the truth of the mater is the landlord know that the roof leaked caused a sealing collapse thank good noboty was heart but when it started leaking and we told the landlord and thay did nouthing about it and we fixed it out of pocket ontop of covering all utilateys and lawn matnice on a 2.8 acker yard that's half woods he can fuck off when as soon as he stops paying g property taxes we are going to start and tack the property from him I say it depends on the sercoumstance you know
In Florida the law states if you have a lease you can be evicted in 3 days after notice. If you do not have a lease you can be evicted after 30 days. And it's no questions asked. The sheriff comes and they leave.
@D R I understand what youre saying. Im afraid thats the case with most things nowadays. I'm from Amsterdam what used to be a very liberal city. Prostitution is allowed, smoking weed was tolerated since the 70s but now its getting more and more strict. In coffeeshops, which is a place to buy and smoke marihuana, is now forbidden to smoke inside if you roll your joint with tobacco. This has to do with the new tobacco laws. Imagine explaining this to tourists. Its okay to smoke marihuana but its illegal to put tobacco mixed in with your herbs. Another example BBQ in the park is illegal now in most big parks because some people are assholes that dont clean up after themselves so they banned BBQ for EVERYBODY. This might be simple/dumb examples but its to have an idea.
Sunny shah thought it was another sign of white privilege they didn’t even look into them because they where a white couple. And they just assumed they where nice. They wouldn’t have done that other wise. Anyone else they would have been looking for reasons not to rent to them.
15000$ monthly profit, and don't pay 2000/month rent? Desgusting scumbags! But you are placed in jail imediately for 500$ traffic ticket! Anybody sees something not being right, here? No? Ok.
Dan _ because the county isn't making money off your missing rent. They are still getting your property tax check. A traffic ticket however is money they want to collect from you. They end up making more money if you have to go to court
Many poor people are placed in jail for under $500.00 traffic tickets. If you can't pay a $100 dollar fine and the courts won't work with you guess what... YOU GO TO JAIL.
Bouncing checks is criminal fraud, and not to mention the cruelty of making the children keep getting up rooted from a home, call CPS as well something isn't right poor kids too!. 😡
I think the only way to stop them from squatting house to house every Real Estate office should have a photo of the squatter couple hanging on the wall that reads "Beware of Serial squatters"
Okay, but if the landlords are actually running the information and doing the backgrounds on these people like they're supposed to, they'd never even get to move in. You'd know that they're not the same people. To me, it sounds like these folks managed to convince the landlords to not run anything on them before they moved in. If they're not even going to do that little bit of their jobs to ensure their assets are protected, why should anybody care that they're letting crooks in? I mean, isn't that the point of wanting a landlord, to have somebody around whose job it is to ensure that your neighbors aren't bad people and your home is safe? You know, besides the expenses side of it, you generally rent because you're delegating that responsibility to somebody else for a fee. These guys are either very good at stealing information, or they're pointing out a large number of landlords who aren't even doing the minimum they need to be doing to be landlords.
Jewel 123 - - Unfortunately that would not really do much good because these people are smart enough to not rent from professional property management companies. They are renting from individuals who own these properties and want to rent them out. After all, a property management company is going follow a specific set of procedures in every single case no matter what, while an individual owner can easily be conned into letting things slide. Personally I would NEVER let a potential tenant move in until the first check cleared, no matter how perfect a tenant he seemed to be but many people don't strictly follow this rule. Of course this particular con artist couple has more than enough money to write a good check for the deposit and first month rent and still come out way ahead since it would take so long to evict them once the next months rent check bounced. They would never do this in a million years however because their scam is about much more than just money. Basically these types actually get off on pulling one over on these homeowners and ruining their lives. In fact, they get immense satisfaction from knowing that the homeowner never got a sent from them and so its important that they don’t have to pay anything at all to get the scam started. They basically feel they are smarter than everyone else and they need to constantly prove this to themselves by conning people. Unfortunately I don’t really have time right now to get into the whole psychological profile of these types but just be aware that the motivation is not simply money. I know for most of us it hard to imagine a person who is not only incapable of feeling empathy but who actually derives joy from conning people and causing them severe financial strife but these types are out there nonetheless.
The owners were not getting professional help to rent the homes. If you are going to buy the house, you must first go through a mortgage broker or a bank to get approved, they will obtain their FICO credit score, then if you are renting before you move in, you must fill out a rental application, the realtor can go to the courthouse to see if the rental applicant has been evicted from another property. I used to know of a website that the county would provide of repeat eviction offenders.
Since they are moving in the same area/ neighborhood print flyers out about them with their face, eviction history, tack them to trees, and also distribute them to home owners, realtor companies.
one uup In a just world yes, but they will have you in court for slander and win real quick if you do that. You cannot post private agreement information to the public without consent from both parties. A lease is a private agreement. If they lost their job because of that flyer or can prove it is harder to find a place to live now you can say goodbye to your bank account. 😉 Just like they say... Unfortunately the laws are set in place to help the tenant, not the homeowner. Gotta inspect the previous rental history before you rent to anyone. 👍
Slander is making false spoken statements. Libel is written/published false statements. Defamation is the action of damaging one's good reputation. I don't see them fitting any of these definitions. Therfore putting up fliers or mailing them would not be wrong. Individual states may have other privacy laws, but not related to this.
You would have to print and distribute them anonymously with no contact information and make sure you're not seen doing so you cannot be followed up for harassment or slander of any sort
Probably staying in the same area due to work and kids school. If they have done this for years each time taking about 5 months and making $15,000 they should have the money to buy their own home by now. What are they spending it on otherwise? I'm sure after that news story they are well known from the school to the restaurant to their places of employment...LOL If that guy or gal worked for me I just say "sorry we don't need you anymore" after hearing the news story.
I don’t understand why the laws protect squatters rather than everyone equally. Put their pictures up on social media! Take out ads in local newspapers! Make them well known in the community! Play their game!
LifeOfNey sorry to tell you, they both been released from prison do to Covid 19 and them not been violent criminals. The justice system is a joke. You know this is going to get much worse with the upcoming evictions ! Squatting central coming to your and my town ....yay
@@DucatiQueen but now it will much more difficult for them. 1 they are well known 2 background check will fail 3 if they try to do the same felony they will be charged much worse.
A little loophole for the loopholes. As a homeowner when you rent to somebody, make the first three months, a month-to-month agreement after the third month, they pay rent give them a lease for the rest of the months.
The fact that these squatters keep getting away with these atrocious acts and not a single thing is being done by the system is disgusting just because is a civil matter, but when it comes the end of the year to pay the taxes of your home and you dont pay you could loose your home yet thats all they care about
That works best for squatters who have never been registered in any way to live in that home, but since she actually rented it to them she can't do that without arousing too much suspicion, and their recognized as squatters so even if you tuned them up they can still come back legally even if their staying there illegally, that only works when someone just enters the home and lives there without any form of agreement or acknowledgment, but I do agree that is by far the best choice, knock them unconscious and drop them off far away, and then change all locks so they can't enter.
I've heard of a place they can stay, rent free, free clothes and food. Even have security bars on the windows, doors automatically locks and a huge yard. Even have uniformed security guards. The down fall is no dogs or children allowed.
ummm it's illegal to write bad checks constantly. Not sure why they haven't been busted for that, instead of having a new law made, just arrest them for bouncing checks.
Lovely Seaflower, yeah its called check deception and I went to jail for it when I was 18. Wrote a check didn't balance my checkbook correctly and a check bounced for $5.
You think you’re fuking police would like these kind of people up, what fuking good are they, they allow people to sell drugs all over the place and do all kind of shit But they sure are fine time to give people tickets
Some places I know of could mean a nice trip down to the courthouse and a $500.00 fine should you bounce a check. I've had some checks bounce on me, but I never had to go to the courthouse nor pay a fine. I was put on a Bad Check Restitution Program, and I have paid every cent that I owed back to my creditors. Some of them are out of business now, and it wasn't because of bad checks
Yes. It's proving the "knowingly" part that can make getting a conviction difficult sometimes, but for these people, it seems that there is ample evidence to support it, if law enforcement or the DA's office could be bothered.
My own LOSER of a brother-in-law did this VERY same thing to a person up in Saginaw. Found out his wife had not been paying rent for over 3 years and he (according to his claims) had no clue they were behind that far on rent. His wife just kept playing and playing the landlord and when the evictions came, she'd hide them from her husband who would work overseas a lot for Lockheed. A couple of years ago they finally moved to a new place they "bought" just RIGHT DOWN THE F'ING ROAD! I don't know if she is screwing the mortgage company over, but I do know that she wears DIAMONDS the size of my knuckle right now, with the "story" that they "inherited" it from her grandmother. He screwed my wife, his sister, over for THOUSANDS owed to T-Mobile bc he talked her into co-signing for her and then never paid the bill, but had a friend that worked for them, so she kept turning the line back on, for over TWO YEARS. Yeah, THEY'RE REAL PIECES of work.
@Picolas Cage I mean they saved there money to buy the home.. while renters buy clothes they cant afford.. eat good.. party.. why shouldn't they just let someone live there for free
@@LiwaySaGu Which is so messed up. The laws are supposed to protect tenants that have landlords that take their money then kick them out. Not people like this.
@@stephanieparks1981 And the problem is, if they get rid of the laws that allow this to happen, then those slum lords will use the new laws to their advantage. People will use whatever laws we have to do what they want.
Danny Thompson the worst part is according to their W2 they made almost $200,000 a year! They EASILY could rent or even buy a home but instead they force their kids to constantly move. I hope they turn out okay 😕 maybe with their parents in prison for 5-6 years they can learn to not be like them
CPS needs to take all of their children and they should be arrested for theft of services. They’re going to get the wrong homeowner and it won’t fare well for these squatters. Pathetic
All I'm wondering is that "Why hasn't CPS gone for the kids?" This is totally a bad environment for the children and the parents totally aren't parenting material and might even teach them wrong.
They aren't hurting the children they are hurting the community and economy. This type of shit is why we are in pure hell as a country. Hand out money everywhere and let dickheads walk free that's America
Being honest Really? If those children are actually their children, then they are most certainly being hurt - psychologically, with moving every 4 to 6 months ( are they even in the same school?) and if they are living with those parents they are being raised to think fraud is acceptable behaviour. CPS should be all over this, and a Judge should order that their kids be removed until they establish themselves and pay 3 months in advance. Also - this situation has absolutely NOTHING to do with " handing out money" - these two are grifters, fraudsters, con artists. They know the laws and how to work around them. They are criminals ( not to mention Sociopaths) and are entirely separate from someone on assistance who actually needs it. The problem is the Laws pertaining to this behaviour. Surely a creative Judge could find a way to hold them in contempt or garnishee their wages.
+Being Honest *WOW* *!* "not hurting their children" Did you really just say that? What do you think 23 evictions and moving that many times has done to thier brains? What do you think their gonna feel when they are older & have stunted development & they see this video of their parents on this program. Because I cringed so hard my eyeball almost popped out & Im not even related!! What do you think constant lies, every single day, every single week, every month has done to them? I wonder. Id give a thousand dollars to see a video made of the children interviewed separately after those two are in a holding cell. Love to hear what they have to say
Wasting time looking up squatters rights will no explain why squatting is not a criminal offense. Trespassing is a crime. Just because you trespass "really long" does not mean that it is not a crime.
I agree with the problem of property tax (leasing land from US government) but you will never dissuade me of the notion of owning private property. If I found someone INSIDE my personal home without my permission the only thing they would get is a well placed grouping in the chest.
I was planning on moving out of state soon, and slowly remodeling my current home before selling it, but there's a problem with squatters in my neighborhood and the cops told me it only takes 30 days; anyone can claim squatters rights if they've been there at least 30 days! So I guess I'd have to make sure I drive 11 hours once a month, just to make sure no one's taken up residence in my place! I just don't understand how they suddenly have rights and trespassing isn't a thing??
People like "serial squatters" make the renting process so hard for honest people that do pay their rent and bills. It's like pulling food out of a lions mouth to pull its teeth getting into a nice place, but they have no problem. It really should be criminal anywhere and everywhere to do what they do.
