I am a 70 y.o.penholder. Lockdown for 4 months during Covid but surprised myself in table tennis. I can now do 15 different serves (long, fast, short roll back, side, top side etc) to the nine squares allocated/targeted on the other side at will. More confusion and frustration for the opponent thru mixing, changing the bounce height, speed and drop of the serves. Fantastic exploration. However, I didn't know the technical terms/related reasons behind until I saw this video. Much appreciated. (BTW, my equipments include table, net, robot and 300 balls that save me a lot of time and effort. All I need is to practise/explore serves amid loops, counters and pushes. I don't compete in comp's, just for the fun of it :) Very happy and satisfied.
Hi glad you enjoyed the video and it made more clear why your serves are effective!! Hey you don’t have to play tournaments to enjoy the game. Keep it up 👍
Thank you, I believe it doesn’t because I started making videos during a very competitive time in RU-vid, I think if I keep making them that it will grow much more.
Would love to see more videos like this one. Practical, to the point tips, with their strategic value clearly explained, with myriad video examples. Awesome man.
Thank you 🙏 glad you liked it! Yeah I figured I would bring that topic back because it was buried somewhere in one of my matches I did a review on haha
These rips are so goood. Been doing most of them as a 61 yr old guy. I just dont give so much time for practice. Anyway I will save this video and share to the younger guys I've met. Truly appreciate your stuff here.
The heavy underspin/no spin deception has been my bread and butter, but it's still lacking, especially when the opponent catches on. I've added a couple more serves but it's not as effective as my main serve. Thanks for this video, got a lot of really good tips here.
Another great video! These breakdowns are really great to try to improve my game. Many of the things you talked about I overlooked or simple had no idea.
These types of videos are amazing. You get a great unique viewpoint by a very good player. There is a lot of tabletennis guides etc. out there but more often than not its just the same information recycled. These kind of videos by you on the other hand are different they are "new" information or known information that is explained differently which is a good thing since you get so many people saying the same things over and over. So thank you and keep up the amazing work.
Thank you, I have been lucky enough to have been around good players and coaches and most of them know these things I talk about but whenever I looked on the internet there was a lack so I decided to put it out there. Thanks again I’ll keep them coming 👍👍
I can't even focus on my own serve! A lot of time just before tossing the ball to serve I'll choose a serve but as the bat moves, I sometimes switch and do a different serve instead (end up giving free points!!). In my case I have to work on varieties and consistency, especially in reading and receiving serves. Thank you for the input. Well explained.
Seth, your advise has been so wonderful and resulting in good progress, that I am making it a practice to share it with my small community of tt aficionados, thanks for taking time out to share such valuable advise, much appreciated.
Dude this helps me so much. The accessibility to this level of coaching is very rare where I live. Even online, serve and return explanations are usually in written format and hard to visualize. I literally look for years trying to find candid serve/return visuals. It feels so difficult to findddd. So thank you, sincerely
Thank you Seth. I am only 3/4th through the video but I am super impressed. These are really good tactics. I really love discussion on tactics and strategies and thus, I like this video a lot.
Great video! I really liked your explanations on everything. My first video to see from your channel, I immediatley subscribed and will watch more! What worked for me also in the amateur league is actually the opposite of spreading. Since I am not at such a high level, I have not mastered so many variations of serves yet. Which is why I keep the placement mostly short with my serves, until I see my opponent actually waiting for a short service. I then surprise them with the same service (including same movement), but just longer and faster.
Hey! Thanks for watching, glad you liked it, yes I like your strategy to be able to watch the opponent and “know what’s in their head” is a very useful skill that way you can be one step ahead of them! Thanks for the subscribe, more to come ?
Great video! This is one of the videos where you have to come back after some time and re-watch just over and over to grasp all the information. Thank you for all your effort! Love from Germany
@@PechPongTT Ahh that's dope, hope you liked it! What blade and rubber are you using if i may ask? :) (You know people love that topic, maybe you could make a video with your take on equipment for different skill levels) Also, do you have any other socials you're posting content on or is it RU-vid only?
I currently use viscaria blade with dragon grip Stiga on Forehand and Donic Bluegrip c2 on backhand. That’s a good idea I have been thinking about doing equipment videos.
Excellent video - I really appreciate your effort! I like the clear, intelligent, organized nature of you videos. You cover a lot of information, but do it efficiently. Thanks!
very good video !! i watched all your videos on tips and all of them are very good cause they r very SPECIFIC ..those are professional tips (non professional players have to adjust in order of theyr level of play > for ex . its good to mix up the services to mess up the receiver but the server has to know exactly what is the range of the receives it may have after each specific serve and has to have a good 3th ball for each one of them)
Excellent video, Seth. Wish I were good enough to take advantage of your suggestions. Have always enjoyed watching you serve and will now pay even more attention to you. Thank you.
I really enjoy your videos , they are always full of good information and I generally share them with other players. Thank you and keep up the good work. Im watching this for the 3rd time just before I share it.
Hey Seth, Gerry Chua here. Glad to see you still playing. Ethan is doing well as a mechanical engineer up in the Bay Area. Has not held his paddle for 6-7 years. Anyway, I just watched 4 minutes of this video. I liked the part on Timo's serve where you do not know if it is a traditional pendulum or a reverse. I practiced it last night before the players arrived at my club. I used it several times and it was effective as it caught the receiving player by surprise and messed up their strategy. Thank you.
Hey Gerry!! So nice to connect with you again! I have good memories when we would see each other at tournaments and when we went to you house to play! Ethan has taken up Golf haha I see his videos that’s awesome he’s always been a talented athlete! That’s interesting how fast you were able to implement the serve, few can do it, glad you got something from it.
Seth, your match with Xia Jiwei (Jiaqi's ex hubby) was incredible. Almost like 2 acrobats playing pong. Keep it up, I wish Ethan stayed with TT. He did tell me the other day he might start playing again since ICC is just a few blocks from where he works. Say hello to your dad. I was also glad to see you and Keith play doubles at the Nationals. Man, when I think about it now - those days in Vegas or the Open in Fort Lauderdale. Setting up 3 video cameras with super long batteries and then having to roam around to take photos. I cant do that now. Keep up the great work on your videos. Very pragmatic and to the point.
Seth, one more comment on serves. I watched Lily and Kanak's matches at the recent tournament in Chile. It was painful to watch, specially Lily. She might be a 2500+ player but her serves are like 1900 level. I made a comment to Samson had Sarah won against Lily, she would have been a better player to play Diaz in that she had better serves. Every time Diaz need to win a point you can already figure out the serve that was coming. To some extent, Kanak's serves are rather simple to read and no "911" serves to use at 10-10 or 11-10 to put away the game / match. Just my 0.02, what do I know? Just an opinion of a 1850 player.
What's an amazing video. Not often when you see people shares their hard earned experience like this. The only thing I wish is you have more clips at each points so it become a serve bible :) . Really thanks for your time and effort with this video.
I am from India .I watch your videos .They are really very good.please make videos on all fundamental strokes. There are many Chinese and Korean tt channels which explain but because of language barrier We understand nothing.Hope you will make videos soon.Thanks
Great video and you're right, service follow through deception is not discussed enough. The Germans and Swedes are really good at this. I'm reminded of Waldner and his deceptively cool looking serves and tricky follow throughs. Timo Boll as well. I'm sure others are great at it but these two come to mind as I've done many rewinds and watched in slow motion to decipher them. Samsonov had a very interesting, methodical service motion too. It would put you in a such trance you'd forget to watch the contact point. Anyway great video and thanks so much!
Yes it is fun to watch and learn from many of the top players each has a slightly different approach to it and is able to confuse their opponents. Thanks for watching!
If I watch this on a smart TV I can watch parts at 0.5 or 0.25 speed. Easier to see racket head trajectory. Would love to see a video on how to do pendulum, reverse pendulum you mentioned that Timo Boll uses with special emphasis on how you would break it down into segments to learn the motions...how we can work to make it look the same until the last moment. Thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos,"Speedy Pech".
I have experimented with it and so basically you "create" a takeaway/toss that would allow you to do both motion until the last second. I would then have my friend call out which serve to do at the last second so I can make it deceptive and practice doing that seamlessly
🏓🙏🏽Thanks from a Novice here in Sydney also always looking forward to your video’s also what a few of the Pongfinity dude’s and a guy named Tom from the UK😊
Yeah I was watching a masterclass on Poker as well as Chess to see if there were any mental strategies I could port over to table tennis there are a few similarities. I’m not a poker master or a chess master but find it all interesting!
Yeah, I've tried explaining to people the GTO, which is another reason we see some traditionally seen as 'bad' serves [i.e. no spin long with slight backspin, or fast serves to BH to set up BH-BH rallies, etc], its all about widening your range, having your opponent have to adjust to the slew of strategies, as well as strengthening your other serves.
@@MrVibhas yeah exactly! That’s so cool that you a familiar with GTO and already have tried to implement it, I mean everyone kind of naturally gets it but to really understand how it messes with your opponents mind and is able to weaken their game is another.
Loved the content. I have always struggled with the serves and I really liked you touched the topic of follow-up here. "Follow-up" is a part where I struggle alot and not many videos cover it. It would be really helpful if you could make a video explaining how to return different serves. I always lose points in returning simple serves
Great video. I have a sort of routine where I do the same forehand pendulum motion in a similar way but I have a bunch of different spins with a similar raquet motion. Lets say I start off with a deep sidespin/underspin. Then a shorter with more underspin. Then a short serve with a similar motion but a little top spin. And then my favourite, a short serve with no spin at all. Very often players think its another topspin serve and just dump the ball into the net.
Absolutely great content!!! The importance of serves cannot be emphasised enough. And specially the emphasis on same spin serve, that definitely works a treat. So many times you can do a particular serve which your opponent is comfortable with but you can change the serve but not spin and it can confuse them. Ie jab serve, reverse pendulum and backhand serve all work the same spin but can work in very different ways! A more detailed serve receives video would be great as that’s where matches can be lost very easily
Thank you much!! Yes I agree it’s a big help if you know how to execute the different serves! From now on I will call the scoop “Le Jab”! Such a good name! I put two videos out about serve receive, maybe you could take a look and let me know if I need to revisit the topic.
@@PechPongTT sorry that was a typo I meant the jab serve. Lol Will check out the videos I do believe I did watch them months ago will watch again to refresh. I do follow and watch many videos but the explanation in your videos are very insightful and explained in such a simple manner it’s great to watch for all levels. And love watching your matches you are very quick with your footwork which is vital for success.
Very good video and tips on serves and follow up, I suggest to add more clips based on the tips to compare and learn watching the clips, thanks a lot, I learn lots of skills form your videos, amazing job, keep it up.
@@PechPongTT Thanks for your reply, looking forward for more videos, I would like to know more about playing with pimple rubber, I always lose matches, whenever I receive the ball, it goes to the net, going out of the table is very less occasions
if it's from PechPong then I know it's going to be awesome. Could you please share some of your fitness/workout tips in the future? Like how is your routine like, how you manage to work out and not hinder your tournament performance etc.
Thanks for the compliment! I try my best to put out good stuff :) and Yeah I can talk about that in a video. I typically work like crazy and then the week before tournaments I rest up/play matches to get in the right mind frame and get energy back. Peter Karlsson talked about this with me and he said at his best he would keep up his physical routines even when at tournaments because he felt no need to lose the rhythm of his routine
Excellent video. Very educational and practical. I'll practice some of the tactics shared. Keep up the great work! I appreciate your help and dedication to this great sport.😊
