Set-Up Position with Jake Kaminski | Recurve Archery Form Series Episode 6 | NTS KSL BEST Method 

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Your content is absolutely amazing! Thank you for everything you give us. I'm happy to be a Patron. For Q&A I prefer recorded videos of most common questions not already answered. Be sure to use time stamps in the description.

Jake, there's not one single video of yours that hasn't improved my shooting IMMEDIATELY. Not. One. You're an excellent Instructor!

Hi Jake. Thanks for the great series. Always pick up something. I wanted to share a point of clarity regarding hips vs. pelvis vs. waist. They are all related and linked, but me understood and addressed independently. The Hips are where the head of the femur inserts into the pelvis. The principle ball joint the controls alignment of the pelvis through the knees to the ground. The Pelvis is the "bone cradle" that links the lower body to the torso (which includes the waist). The Waist is the muscular structure that links the pelvis to the rib cage. I think it would be helpful to clarify that when you are talking about "rotation", you are talking about Waist coiling while maintaining Pelvis/Hip stability. You want to keep the Pelvis neutral and in line directionally with the feet (base of support). Most people will twist the Pelvis instead of the Waist. This is often caused by tight Hips. Again to clarify; twisting the Pelvis twists all the way down the legs through the KNEES. Since the knees are not ball joints (!) they do not take kindly to twisting repeatedly. This counter-twist between the Pelvis and the Waist is (well illustrated with your towel analogy) is what engages ALL the core muscles creating erect stability. Believe it or not, many people need training to differentiate between the Pelvis and Waist, and activate them independently. It is a motor control issue. An easy test is to have someone hold your Pelvis from behind so it can't move, and then try to twist the waist. People are often shocked that they initially CANNOT MOVE! But when they think about it a bit, the brain figures it out. Then, like everything else, you need practice. Sorry for the long comment. Hope it's useful.

Best tip that I have picked up on so far. Reaching towards the target with my bow hand / arm. I'm using archery partly as rehab for my back and mind, following two surgeries. Still have a way to go but this video helped immensely. Thank you Jake.

There are many different techniques and opinions about archering. And here is Jake Kaminski, who will tell us how it has to be done. Period. Thank you man!

I think you guys may be misunderstanding what I meant about the live video question response. I meant take your questions that need complex answers from comments and answer them in a live video Incase you guys wanted the chance to see live streams. Not just go live and answer any questions that come up in the live only. My bad! Also I assume live videos on here can be added to the channel for future reference.

Your different videos about the set-up and drawing phase really helped me with some shoulder pain I had. Many coach will just tell you to get into alignment and use back tension, but without knowing the "road" to get there, it can be very hard to achieve properly. Tks!

I've been searching for a long time to try to find info on the breakdown as detailed as this. This is so helpful. I look forward to the rest of the videos.

Thanks for giving so much of your time to try and convey these important movements in your shot cycle. It is fascinating but easy to get overwhelmed. Important to enjoy the process!

Great Jake!!! Very complete and detailed steps. Thanks to show and teach not only how to do proper things to score but also to care ourselves from injuries (my actual shoulder situation 😢). Thanks again!

Love this tip set to set up!! as a beginner getting the right movements are key! Thank you Jake so valuable.

Thank you very much Jake, by this video. It is very interesting to learnt how we have to lift the bow hand and align the shoulders both in a perfect straight line. Good advices !!!!! I will see the next ones, sure !!!

Thank you , really thank you❤️️

WOW!!! I am new to archery, I haven’t even received my bow in the mail yet, but your videos are so informative. I love the way you break down the steps and the thought process behind the steps. Thank you 🙏🏽.

I share your videos on the discord for the r/archery subreddit near constantly in response to peoples questions about form and tuning. Loving the content. Keep up the good work.

Thanks, Jake. I'm really getting lots of great detail on tuning, equipment, and form from your videos.

Hi Jake, many thanks for your easy to understand explinations. There are so many steps during the pulling to have an eye on. But with your video it is verry good to understand. I read "The archer from inside" so many times, without understanding what they want say. Now I do! 👍👍👍

After watching the entire Form series, it is useful to re-watch some of them as we understand more of the KSL cycle.

I love the details, best archery channel 👍🏻 , we are waiting for the Jake grips and tune book , thanks for the effort

Love archery ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ thank you for such a GREAT content!!!!!

Great stuff, much appreciation!

Great videos sir! I started watching your videos and today I went for my very first recurve archery here in Las Vegas. Please do Q & A next time

For questions I'd prefer short videos that answer groups of related questions.

Thanks, Jake! You're the best.

Lift the bow hand up and rotate the back shoulder at the same time. That's what I need to know! Thanks!

Again jake a very well presented video. Thank you.

Extraordinary content!

Muchas gracias por tus explicaciones...

Thanks, this is a Masterclass!!

Thank you for this and your other form vids. I've just started archery but unfortunately my club mentors aren't explaining well enough the mechanical movements to have proper form or what I should be doing to get there, or at least not well enough that I understand it. I've been binge watching many of your vids and it has helped me understand a lot better.

Muchas gracias por tus videos y consejos.. eres genial

Thanks for the series!

Ur Contents are greattt!!! Thumbs up

Hi Jake, I don't think that you are not flexible at the shoulder, because in order to raise the arm (abduct) above 90 degrees, you really need to begin the upward rotation of the scapula (shoulder blade) on the rib cage, because the acromion gets in the way of that movement (you could externally rotate your shoulder to add an extra 20 to 40 degrees before it happens to be precise). Otherwise, you'll cause shoulder impingement (of the subacromial space) and risk bursitis and in the long term damaging of rotator cuff tendons. Keep up the great focus on biomechanical details of your techniques. Love your teachings and thank you for sharing your experience! PS I wrote my comment way before the 17'17" of your video when you mentioned the same issue 😅

Great video. Very interested in coiling. You explain part of the reason for coiling. Would love to know the full theory. Thanks.

Hello Jake. Could you elaborate what is going on with the drawing side scapula in relation to it's position with the spine during Set and Set Up? Maybe some footage of that from Set to Set Up and into Loading. That to me would be worth a lot of words. Your efficiency in explaining this stuff is off the chart. If you find it economical to put these videos on DVD format I will certainly buy the set. I hope folks realize that this is a martial art and they will get improvement by watching and practicing this technique many many times. The best to you Jake.

Thank you again for your info. Will try that tomorrow :-)

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Heya, Missed you in London but I got the coach Lee book and watch all the videos you upload. Kudos all around. Love it and thank you. Here is a question.. I have a clicking thing going on in my draw shoulder sometimes in my set-up and sometimes in my transfer.. Is that a big problem for a lot of archers, can it become a bigger problem, is it normal, will it go away.. is it the position/angles that can improve it? I know everyone is different and all that but perhaps you have come across a solution in the past or know someone who has. I have my shoulders nice and low am comfortable with my draw weight and overall am in a happy place when it comes to technique thanks to both my coach and yourself. Maybe a suggestion here.. If you have a bunch of questions from others with similar problems (health, muscle, pain related) perhaps Heather could do a video answering all those? Thank you so very much for everything J.

Thank you

A great series of videos, thank you! I shoot field and would be interested to see how you change your set-up routine to deal with elevated targets.

Brill coaching videos, hope you keep them coming, thanks. Regarding Q&A I think it would be better in a live video format. Thanks Terry

Clear quite some confusion I keep having, esp is it correct my sight is on the left during the set position. Thank you!

Jake, I'm new in your channel. I like all you presentations: very well prepared, detailed. Excelent. If I could ask something: Could you prepare a video about aiming thecnics?

Hello, Jake. Thanks again for great content. I've been watching your channel all year. It is super informative 👍 👏 I have some questions regarding set-setup transition phase. The thing is that in the book "Inside the archer" in the chapter about set position author says to set shoulder aligment after setting head position, grip and hook. But you say that it should be done while you are raising the bow by rotating your chest. So in this particular mini-step there is no one best way to do it? In your opinion, what is the pros and cons of both ways? I tried doing both ways. And if i do it by the book, then when i try to load there is just not enough of that rotating momentum on my drawing side and sometimes i even lose my back tension and all form just collapses with some amount of pain in my drawing shoulder 🥴 On the other hand, when i try to do it your way quiet often there is to much rotation both while i try to align my shoulders (resulting in a closed stand and my dow shoulder popped too much in front) and while i try to load (resulting in that i end up with my drawing hand around my right ear 😬) - it is just harder to control my body. Thanks in advance. Keep up the good work 👍👍👍

I would prefer mini-videos which is about 5~10 min long that address some questions. The problem of Q&A is that it is hard for people to look it up because it would be hard for me to know what exactly you mentioned in that Q&A video. You may answer 20 questions and I may only interested in one of them. So instead of 1 video of 20 questions, I would prefer 20 videos each answering one specific question. I know the later one sounds more difficult, but you can spread them out in a longer period of time. Hope my advises help.

Good teacher

Enjoying your videos. Where can I find the video about breathing?

Jake, Congratulaions for your excellent lessons. Very, very good! But, if I may ask you: Please, show me the passage from set-up to set-up position when you are actually shooting. I canno't see that passage in the videos from your competitions.

Hi Jake, thank you for another great episode. To answer your question how we would like to get your answers, for me I think it would be the best if you would do a separate Q&A video with selected questions that you see worth answering to and also please answer us in the comments. In regard to the subject of the episode, I have a question regarding the bow arm elbow rotation. When I'm in a full draw I'm already pushing toward the target as you show in the video, but I'm not sure how much I should rotate my elbow. When I'm only pushing bow arm forward my elbow is in position that I feel that I could rotate it even more clockwise(or down), but when I try to do that it feels kind of forced. When I look at 15:41 when you are at full draw, the angle of your bow arm elbow seems to be somehow not fully rotated to vertical, but some little bit of angle off, and I think I do this similarly. So the question is, should I rotate my elbow more, which feels that I need to somehow force it more, (I think it engages my triceps more, which as I understand is a good thing?) or only push forward? And for last, I think if you could use some higher resolution camera, your videos would look better in terms of production quality. That would look more appealing for those more aesthetically inclined. Thanks again.

Nice video thank you! I like instructional videos, but maybe to keep all folks happy do Q&A at the end (or where relevant during instructional)?

Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! The next two videos in the playlist are set to private, so I can't watch them. Nr. 7 and 8 out of 10.

Jake thank you for another great video tutorial. The best on the net. I need to work on my alignment with a stretch band to get the 'barrel of the gun'. Currently my bow arm shakes a little as I must be using muscle tension to keep the bow arm pushing forward. Any tips for stretch band practice to get that smooth transition from setup to set with that rotation to get BotG alignment? I really want to work on this part of my shot with the stretchband as I feel once I ve got alignment then I can be in a position to mentally relax a bit at full draw. I wish I could get to the London seminar but I m committed to another event the same weekend.

Any live seminars or clinics coming up in Portugal, or Los Angeles?

One question jake, what if you have limited shoulder mobility, then for reaching sight pin on target you must raise bow arm more than your limit (ex. Low poundage bow, high terrain, etc) Thanks

When I reach towards the target with my arm I get a lot of tension in my neck. What could cause that?

I’ve been working on rotating my shoulders and getting into better alignment. But, now I look like I’m dancing back and forth. When I’m shoooting say at 20 yards, I feel like I’m way too far back off the shooting line. Almost like I’m shooting at an angle. Then when I move 4-5 inches closer nothing feels right at full draw.

Awesome video. Needed it. Can these videos be shot in 1080p :-)

This is great! I am wondering if any of this should be different for compound bows (I'm trying to get accurate at longer range for hunting.) or do you recommend the same exact thing?

Group the questions and do q&a vid if the answers are video stuff.

Thanks Jake. My issue with the live feed Q and A is i live in Australia, totally different time zone

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Jake, what's the purpose of going up to apex and then down to shooting level during set-up? I see some archers that just go from set directly to shooting level during set-up.

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Hi Jake, I have a form question. I am a woman recurve archer - intermediate level. I have been taught to Set-Up with my elbow high and my forearm touching my forehead, draw-hand near my eyes - kind of like Ki Bo Bae but not as skillful of course :). I find that if I don't do this, but do a straighter draw I can't get through the clicker as I am using my arm rather than my back. If I use a high elbow then I can rotate my shoulder, get my armpit facing back and use all of those back muscles (hopefully) and easily get through the clicker. What do you think about this? In comparison, I would assess my elbow and arm being much higher than what you are teaching here. I would welcome your thoughts. Perhaps a great Live Q&A question but I am in Australia so I would have to watch it later. Thanks so much for your work on these series, they are really catching on DownUnder.

Hello Jake....I need information about arrow selection criteria .....how to select arrow for perfect bow match......plz share if any book or anything for that.......thanks

I had problem in deep ancker...How is it easy..Please guide

Is it alright to raise the bow arm quite high during Pre draw position?

So what do you think? A live to address questions or just a video of me addressing the questions?

So when do you actually rotate the elbow crease vertically in these steps?

Your bowarm is rotated so your inside of your elbow is pointing horizontal when you are at full draw. My elbow inside is pointing much more to the sky. Is the rotation of the bowarm inportent?

Dear Jake As an iphone user i would ask you for a change in the video titel. It would be handy to have the episode number further in front of the titel, becaus youtube doesn't show the full title if its too long. Thanks Your videos are great!

Elbow down or angled at 90 degree ..on front bow arm

I shoot with an open stand, but when comes to the setup position, my hip is twisting with my upper body together, making a false open stand set up movement. I would like to ask which part of my body is doing wrong to have this kind of result, and which part of the muscle I should train to have a tighter set up movement by only twisting my upper body but not my hip. Thank you.

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Regarding the coil I feel so stupid. In theory it's simple- you rotate your torso without moving your hips. That's all. But I find that actually doing it is the hard part. I have to consciously concentrate hard to make sure my hips stay still. I feel like the only one who struggles to get that right. Ugh.

Really like this series. I do however dislike the gun barrel use as a description for set to setup. We're archers can't we find a better metaphor?

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Hi Jake. You may not get to this as I know you have a s*+# load of stuff to answer however, following your findings about the limb bolts on most recurves and being able to "shift" the limbs from left to right in the pockets, did you find or notice a great improvement using your "PRECISION LIMB BOLTS" as opposed to the propriety bolts? Kind regards Kev

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Jake. You are natural born coach. Shame that you live on the other side of the ocean.

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