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Seventh-day Adventism: Cult or Not? - Ask Pastor Tim 

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If you really want to find out what any religious denomination is about, then find out what they think about the Word of God and the atoning work of Jesus Christ. Satan hates those two things and goes after them intensely. In this Ask Pastor Tim, he tests the writings of Ellen G. White with the Bible.
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@rudyheicksen177
@rudyheicksen177 Год назад
Don’t listen to men but to the Spirit that leads into all truth…..
@ChapterAdans
@ChapterAdans 6 месяцев назад
many church today are not listening to the holy sprit but man
@robbiebob6267
@robbiebob6267 4 месяца назад
Well... however ....Pr tim is using scripture to support the argument/topic at hand & don't forget scripture is Holy Spirit inspired & the bible is our truth/light/foundation.
@jeffreyoivo
@jeffreyoivo 4 месяца назад
Yes correct. Where will you find the holy spirit talking to you? It's in the scriptures and in the spirit of prophecy.
@Hursley-q5x
@Hursley-q5x 2 месяца назад
@@jeffreyoivo And what is the spirit of prophecy?
@jeffreyoivo
@jeffreyoivo 2 месяца назад
@@Hursley-q5x find out yourself with earnest prayer please.
@stefnedupreez8072
@stefnedupreez8072 Год назад
My brother who's living with us is a SDA. He's constantly trying to force his beliefs down our throats. My husband and I are true ordinary religious Christians and find the situation so difficult that we now asked him to look for another place to live ❤
@treefellonya
@treefellonya Год назад
Are you sure that part of it might have been that you were under conviction?
@davidgraham2673
@davidgraham2673 Год назад
Best wishes on your relationship going forward. The Bible supports your decision. You are not to allow a cult member to come into your home, much less live there. A little yeast leavens the whole bread.
@s_hrndz0119
@s_hrndz0119 Год назад
@@treefellonyaconviction that adventism is false ?
@treefellonya
@treefellonya Год назад
@@s_hrndz0119 That would be impossible, since it is the only Church on Earth that has the whole truth. If you are being told to stay away from Adventist truth, its either that you do not want to give up your rebellion, or Satan is steering you to another path.
@s_hrndz0119
@s_hrndz0119 Год назад
⁠@@treefellonyaAh really? Adventism was officially founded in 1863, not even 200 years ago. So please do tell sir if the SDA Church is the only church on earth that has the whole truth who had the “truth” for over 1,800 years before them ??
@2320MediaLLC
@2320MediaLLC Год назад
This guys a piece of work. I’m a seventh day Adventist and you are saved by grace. The sabbath that is in the Ten Commandments . And hungry for souls 😂😂😂. I’m trying to save myself and working on my own soul by working on my relationship with Jesus Christ. “The ones that say things that it sounds right, almost right and it’s hard to discern…. Typically the cults are gonna tell you they believe the Bible.” Man this guy is much. It’s crazy most of the people in the world believe in the same God but then look and listen to Humanity . Or The Devil at the works to divide.
@chattown09
@chattown09 Год назад
Are you saved now? You may have missed the part about word’s being used by Christian’s that mean something else. What does saved mean? Honest question to an SDA.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Can't be saved by grace with the 1844 Jesus!
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@andje_izidor_music you didn't come to Christ if you came to the SDA association because they don't have the Jesus of the Bible. They use the ( name Jesus) but it's (not the Jesus of the Bible.) Your critical thinking is not working!. There is no 18 44 Levite Jesus going from the outer Court to the inner Court. Ultimately placing the( sins on the Devil himself!)( Which is blaspheming the Holy Spirit)! That Jesus does not exist!
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@andje_izidor_music who do you think you're speaking to?
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@andje_izidor_music now you're making since. I don't even know why you're on here what do you gain?
@shaunlouw7281
@shaunlouw7281 Год назад
Your knowlege wrt the sanctuary teaching is limited. Its evident during your all your explaination. EGW did not predict Christ return. Get your facts right
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Yeah but you don't have the real Jesus of Hebrews 7 Ellen says the devil becomes Jesus Christ in 1844.
@CoffeeTeaWithSusan
@CoffeeTeaWithSusan Год назад
I agree… how come they can’t see it? It’s so clear to me… but others are stuck in the streamline belief. It’s sad. When I speak to SDA… they really know their bible! It’s not a cult.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@CoffeeTeaWithSusan they can't see it the same way as you can't see it! because you know nothing about it! And you have never really seriously looked!
@allisonjohnson3453
@allisonjohnson3453 Год назад
absolutely one of the best lectures I have heard on the heretical teachings of SDA. I grew up in the church and I have been in deep spiritual oppression until I was recently born again. All glory to God and Christ's finished work on the cross.
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
Sooo, what's He doing right now? Just kicking back with the Father watching what's going on here?
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
Hellloooo
@robbiebob6267
@robbiebob6267 Год назад
Hi Allison..... Like you I was in the faith years ago & I felt the same & now I'm living the best happiness days. Pr Tim did a fantastic job in his presentation ... Well researched, articulated, clearly spoken & giving scriptures for godly foundation. Yes glory to him our Jesus who went to the cross & said in the book of John..... It is finished!..... Hallelujah.
@earthlastdaybiblechannel
@earthlastdaybiblechannel Год назад
There is no heresy in the 3 angels the fact that your church does not preach 3 angels proves you ar ein babylon
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@williamstroud1455 Psalms 110 until he makes you his footstool!
@DonaldR11
@DonaldR11 Год назад
I was raised as a catholic but now God has revealed to me his truth word from Billy Graham , John McArthur, Dr Charles Stanley, David Jeremiah , David Wilkerson. Tiff Shuttlesworth. What's. The differences between your teachings And them.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
SdA does not have the Jesus Hebrews 7. they have a demonic Jesus created in 1844. That puts them under the law! Most of them don't even know it!
@user-yn7on7ou8n
@user-yn7on7ou8n 7 месяцев назад
All free masons
@paulinekasaija6396
@paulinekasaija6396 3 месяца назад
Who are we to judge
@jonyoung6405
@jonyoung6405 Год назад
I was interested in SDA. Thankful for Ellen G White . Long story short , her grave marker is an obelisk. I believe her husband as well .Cheers.
@timarnett672
@timarnett672 Год назад
Among the letters of George I. Butler, who was General Conference President when James White died in 1881 and for a number of years after. On February 12, 1884, Elder Butler wrote to Mrs. White, "The dark colored granite monument at B.C. [Battle Creek] which you looked at I ordered for your husband's grave last week at your son Willie's invitation. He told me to have it charged to you. I regret to do this while the money lies in the office which his friends contributed to show him respect for his memory. Will desired me to have this money put in the European Mission Board, but I don't feel that I am authorized to do that without their consent. There is about $170 now in the office for that purpose and more that is subscribed which would be paid in if called for." This indicates that Mrs. White had seen the monument, and perhaps her son W. C. White had as well. W. C. White gave Elder Butler approval for its purchase. A letter from Elder Butler to W. C. White on February 10 of that year discusses the cost of the monument "with the headstone and other stones" and says that it "will be erected as soon as you send on the inscription." It is clear that the White family was involved in the selection of the monument. Twenty years later, in 1904, Mrs. White wrote about a different suggestion for James White's monument: After my husband had been laid away in the grave, his friends thought of putting up a broken shaft as a monument. "Never!" said I, "never! He has done, singlehanded, the work of three men. Never shall a broken monument be placed over his grave!" ... {1SM 105.1} We can only guess, but it may be that in contrast to that suggestion, she was quite pleased to have such a well-formed, symmetrical monument placed on the family plot. Some have asked about the obelisk and its supposed connection to Freemasonry. Seeing the obelisk on the family plot, a few have even supposed that Mrs. White must have been involved herself in the Masonic movement. This is an unwarranted conclusion. Mrs. White was an outspoken opponent of Freemasonry. While she was in Australia, she was even shown two secret signs of high-ranking Masons, which she made in the presence of an Adventist worker who was deeply entangled in Freemasonry. She urged him to sever his connection with it. She also counseled others not to be involved with Masonic orders.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@timarnett672 the servant of the devil shows up all the time to defend him
@tempest0073
@tempest0073 Год назад
She didn't pick the obelisk.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@tempest0073 no but she created the (1844 Jesus) that does not forgive Sins,! All you need to do is subtract 457 from 2300 days. Tells you who she really is!
@jonyoung6405
@jonyoung6405 Год назад
@@tempest0073 Maybe not, but she was aware of it and allowed it.
@fritula6200
@fritula6200 Год назад
How many times has Ellen White been married and divorced: she automatically breaks One of the 10 Commandments of God: All cults are money making:
@melodykubiak5850
@melodykubiak5850 Год назад
She was married once and never remarried after she was widowed. What is your point?
@obey6330
@obey6330 Год назад
Aren’t you being the pastor trying to shed more light ? The same way Ellen G white claims to do during her ministry?????????
@ninajensen246
@ninajensen246 Год назад
Hahahaha
@thomaskarabomohlapo568
@thomaskarabomohlapo568 Год назад
The lies you guys tell about her are truly disgusting, no where you'd find that she got married again after losing her husband. She stayed a widow for the rest of her life
@melodykubiak5850
@melodykubiak5850 Год назад
@@thomaskarabomohlapo568 ~ I had never even heard a suggestion of her marrying again until I saw this comment--have you?
@livinglight1628
@livinglight1628 9 дней назад
I got all the way to "use the side door"... all Ive heard is simple slander, no evidence of anything anti-biblical. Im not sure what your religion is but people that reject the Bible as their authority is in no position to critique others. BTW... the only scripture you read is from the ones you are putting down.
@DevineLottering
@DevineLottering 10 месяцев назад
Delighting to delegate Even Christ to Work! Works is everything to even Christ. No sitting down. Hopefully only on Sabbaths.
@rainewaters6371
@rainewaters6371 Год назад
Okay, I'm beginning to understand how these side so-called churches are deceptive. At the same time though, I watch the men of my church and past churches I've attended, who have 'no' works at all in their lives. They attend services, maybe sing or not, but just sit there saying nothing and then doing nothing. They never share, praise, or thank God for anything. What has happened to the men in this culture. No wonder we see women rising up to teach and preach, which isn't biblical. Men have turned from following Jesus to a life of ease and letting women take care of them in every way. The most important thing I seldom see men doing is praying. A husband and father should be leading by praying for and with his wife and children. I would rather live in a tent or cave with a Godly husband than in a palace with great riches with a man who has turned his back on Jesus. 😔
@jameskerrigan2997
@jameskerrigan2997 Год назад
Why do they think Ellen white is the voice of prophecy, when the Bible teaches Jesus is the voice of prophecy.
@peppernbo
@peppernbo 2 месяца назад
explain
@jameskerrigan2997
@jameskerrigan2997 2 месяца назад
@@peppernbo read revalations 19 and John 1. Ellen is not in the Bible.
@peppernbo
@peppernbo 2 месяца назад
@@jameskerrigan2997 she saying the church has the gift of prophecy
@jameskerrigan2997
@jameskerrigan2997 2 месяца назад
@@peppernbo the Adventist Church says Ellen white is the voice of prophecy. And alien's are from unfallen world's, and a lot of other dangerous lies. Glad I'm out of the country club cult.
@panopticseeker2301
@panopticseeker2301 Год назад
Make your reservations now your afterlife depends on it ! Call Jesus he always answers !He died in his love for us and his gift is timeless !
@adelalax3553
@adelalax3553 Год назад
I liked what you said "Satan like to use the exact right terminology of the Bible only gives different meanings of the word"
@earthlastdaybiblechannel
@earthlastdaybiblechannel Год назад
sunday churches refiused the 3 angels message Sunday churches are babylon
@rickhuntling7338
@rickhuntling7338 Год назад
@@earthlastdaybiblechannel SDA refuse the New Everlasting Covenant.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@earthlastdaybiblechannel Ellen says your Jesus is the devil..( in the investigative judgment) by making him be the sin Bearer )!!!in the 7th and 8th line of the third paragraph ..(blaspheming the Holy Spirit attributing to the devil what Jesus Christ himself does)!!! 1st Peter 2:24 Hebrews 9:28 then she says the sins are placed on him (forever destroying Isaiah 43 verse 25 )!!she says that's your Jesus!
@2sarahloves
@2sarahloves Год назад
Like miles does
@2sarahloves
@2sarahloves Год назад
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv no she does not. And there in lies the problem with your deceit and fake anger. You are twisting words and presenting half truths. No one in a true SDA church ever states that satan is the sin bearer.
@Perry847
@Perry847 Год назад
The errors of the 7th day Adventist church are designed to send people straight to an eternal hell.
@rajucharles2957
@rajucharles2957 Год назад
Adventist for Jesus✝️ We don’t worship any human. We worship Jesus Christ and follow the Life and Teaching of Jesus Christ✝️❤ You know nothing about Seventh- day Adventist or Revelation of Jesus Christ Jesus went to the Synagogue on the Sabbath… not Sun 🌞 day. Go and read the Bible and follow Jesus Christ🕺🏻 Happy Sabbath Shalom🙏✝️🇮🇳 Adventist,God’s own Country
@JamieElison
@JamieElison Год назад
Actually you do not !!you're serving Michael the archangel! which is not Jesus Christ. )Also the 1844 Jesus) that (does not forgive sins.)!! Just subtract 457 from 2300! There's your true prophet Ellen!! Right! Bible says a true prophet will never lie!
@libertecherie6537
@libertecherie6537 Год назад
Ex adventists Say exactly the same things as this man. They were raised inside and taught the whole doctrine...and they Say the same things.
@AhumuzaAlex-t1d
@AhumuzaAlex-t1d 5 месяцев назад
Please Jim use particular scriptures against SDA Church not by your own understanding let word of God judge
@robbiebob6267
@robbiebob6267 4 месяца назад
Well.... he does use scriptures!
@Episcopalianacolyte
@Episcopalianacolyte Год назад
Cults are arrogant and think that they are the only ones who can be saved. They all have unique beliefs about JESUS that no one else has. ● JESUS was created. ● JESUS is an archangel. ● JESUS was only human and was chosen to be the Messiah. ● JESUS is his own FATHER or THE FATHER is really JESUS. ● JESUS was a prophet and not the savior. ● We are equal to JESUS. ● The Trinity is pagan. Cults may not recognize that all things were created through JESUS and without Him nothing exists (John 1 : 1 through 5 and Colossians 1 : 16). Some do accep it but it is their beliefs about who JESUS is that makes them a cult. Cults will argue that they have the correct interpretation of the sceiptures even though no one has ever taught what they do. Cults will add and subtract from the scriptures.
@williamstarr2346
@williamstarr2346 Год назад
The devil used the scripture in the opposite side to day, as he had used against eve and Adam from the beginning in the garden of Eden, thanks you brother Jim for well define clearing the scripture. .
@peppernbo
@peppernbo 3 месяца назад
follow jesus and you cant go wrong. he left us an example . jesus says if you love me-----keep my commandments--simple, bye bye
@rorybpollaro9683
@rorybpollaro9683 Год назад
Adventists don't try to appear as mainstream. They call themselves a peculiar people
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
Peculiar isn't the best word for them. they're idiots.... that sounds harsh.. but those are the facts.
@michaelreyes8182
@michaelreyes8182 Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Mary!!!!!! Remember....''the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.'' Galatians 5:22-23
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@michaelreyes8182 you can grandstand behind that statement if you want.. because that makes you appear like you're more righteous than others ..Jesus called those Pharisees that denied the truth of who he was!!! their father was the devil !!!are you going to say that same thing to Jesus!! you see the word idiot actually has a definition! that fits people that choose not to believe truth,( or can't ,)but some people like to present themselves as nicer than God,, I only speak truth as it's written, (and word definitions),,,( you see (an idiot would set himself up to destroy himself )))!!!that is what the cult of SDA is about ...but they do it without realizing it !!and the leaders of the cult know this truth .! Saw a video (showing those people in that knowledge)!!! By Dale ratzlaff one of their pastors for 13 years .until he realized he did not have salvation !!!! Also videos by colleen Tinker.. it might be wise for you to look at them ...It's out there for you to see ..So they themselves admit it's about money!! but they like to keep all the rest of them in that (word )that I used.. but a wise person would see it!!! ... but you told me that you'd get back with me on the regular conversation we were having.. in the beginning .now I realize there is still room for that !to take place! but you did not !!! now what's the difference !you have to be honest ..I thought that was one of the Commandments,,, you guys hung onto! see that's what I'm showing you here ! I stand behind the word definitions that I use! that's called responsibility,, and honesty! if I tell somebody I'm going to do something, unless, some major catastrophe thing happens, I'm going to do it,. I'm not a woke person. People that truly know me know exactly where my heart is!!! as far as Love Goes !!they also know that I will tell them the truth no matter what kind of words I need to use!!( providing they're not Wicked!!! and that brings respect from anyone that I know,,, because they know I'm not going to lie to them, and I won't candy coat stuff! Merriam-Webster's Dictionary definition... For an idiot..... is a silly or foolish person... when someone believes a cult that is designed to destroy them... that is a silly foolish person.. very foolish!!!!.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Okay I am here. Say what you need to say.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@justamessenger4577 okay you need to give me an answer before we start because that was the last question I asked you on the other stream. what is B.C.1. represent. That year on the Jewish calendar is 3760. counting back from 457 B.C... what does the number match to in B.C..1. Which is 3760 and A.D.1 is 3761 the starting point is Ezra 7:9 which is the first day of the first month establish for the Jews .as New (Year's Day in Exodus 12 )which is March or April. Counting backwards from 457 what is a.d .1 represent? When we get done with this. I'll show you what the 2300 days represent.? If you tell me the truth.
@clydebermingham121
@clydebermingham121 Год назад
Look man ….. I wouldn’t even waste my time with you . Generally , according to Matt 5 Christ says “Do not cast your pearls unto swine “ … meaning don’t waste your time on any one who don’t want to know what is true . My father was a Seventh Day Adventist Pastor … I grew up Seventh Day Adventist .. I don’t go to church much anymore … but I wouldn’t even waste my time with you
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Does your father know that Ellen blaspheme the Holy Spirit by saying the (devil is part of the atonement in the investigative judgment) Leviticus 16 10!!. In the third paragraph line 7 and 8. Attributing to the Devil with Jesus Christ actually did in 1st Peter 2:24 Hebrews 9:28. And Isaiah 43 verse 25!! Helen says that's your Jesus! Matthew 12: 31 and 32)
@offmygridomg5602
@offmygridomg5602 Год назад
Watching this was like watching paint dry
@georgewilliams3471
@georgewilliams3471 Год назад
Greetings! I do normally respond to these presentations. However, I think you have a challenge with interpretation. While you might be sincere in your quest, I would suggest that you have a one-to-one conversation with someone knowledgeable on the teachings of the SDA Church. I can see where you have some subtle misunderstandings.
@stanleybroniszewsky8538
@stanleybroniszewsky8538 Год назад
Watching paint dry on the walls in my opinion far better than what I had to get used to. When our son was born, and for many years I literally had to fight with both of my families who I should visit first, my relatives or my wife's relatives. I should have moved hundreds of miles away when I was first married. That way I'd have an excuse as to why I wouldn't visit anyone.
@earthlastdaybiblechannel
@earthlastdaybiblechannel Год назад
@@georgewilliams3471 you should answer comments it shows your presentation is a bunch of nonsense maybe you should read E White books before taking her writings out of context all your arguments are easily answered come out of babylon you reject the 3 angels message this causes the fall of babylon
@rickhuntling7338
@rickhuntling7338 Год назад
watching paint dry is ten fold better than reading an antichrist witch like EGW.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@earthlastdaybiblechannel God forbids anyone to read someone presenting a different gospel Galatians 1.
@sweetangel9498
@sweetangel9498 Год назад
The audacity of this man calling me a cult? Yes I take it personal. It's alright to steal, and to kill, and commit adultery and all the other sins which cannot be counted...but for the only one the 4th Commandment seems to be his sore eye...Tell us which of the commandments are you breaking or not breaking?
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Subtract 457 from 2300. That's what created what you don't want to deal with. The false Jesus of 1844. It never happened. But it's got you,!
@lyonpaque3100
@lyonpaque3100 Год назад
@@jimbob1644 Don’t count the year zero (0) and you get 1844. There’s no year zero in history, but you clearly added it in your calculation.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@lyonpaque3100 what is Looney Tunes like you always talk about a year zero it doesn't exist
@lyonpaque3100
@lyonpaque3100 Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv There are calculators on-line that calculate time from BC to AD. and all calculators come up with the same date as Adventists. You can't talk your way out of science and how the whole science world calculates time from BC to AD. Go use the calculators and you'll see how wrong you are!
@reidveryan9414
@reidveryan9414 Год назад
Tell me friend, does keeping all the commandments save you? And I'm not talking about the "10", for not all the commandments are listed there, especially the two greatest commandments. And as Paul says, you break one commandment, you break all the commandments. No one is justified by keeping the law. One is justified by faith in Jesus Christ alone. Salvation belongs to our God, not in our works. Besides that, are you really listening to what he is saying. He is saying that she is teaching things that go expressly in scripture concerning salvation and atonement. Please, listen again.
@kiruiwesley4623
@kiruiwesley4623 Год назад
please argue from the bible. you just talk a lot without evidence from scripture. If Catholicism is false, why do you follow their dogmas, i.e keeping Sunday ( the first day of the week) It is unfair of you to brand others as cultic and you as correct, please get the facts right
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
It wouldn't matter you don't have the real Jesus of the Bible since 1844 Ellen said he becomes the Devil. Part of the atonement Leviticus 16:10! Blaspheming the Holy Spirit Matthew 12:31 and 32. She says that's your Jesus!
@gabegabriel1701
@gabegabriel1701 Год назад
Hungry for souls? ““ *Go* therefore and *make* disciples of all the nations, *baptizing* them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, *teaching* them to observe all things that *I have commanded you;* and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28‬:‭19‬-‭20‬
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
Yeah but you got to make sure they're not believing in 1844 Jesus that does not forgive sins
@jimani4529
@jimani4529 10 месяцев назад
“But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned-every one-to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.” ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53‬:‭5‬-‭6‬ ‭ESV‬‬
@jimani4529
@jimani4529 10 месяцев назад
Jesus Christ Bore all sins, iniquities, transgressions and injustices on the Cross at Calvary. It’s pure deception to believe otherwise, namely that the enemy of our souls, Satan and the Devil is the bearer of our sins. Be on your guard !
@robbiebob6267
@robbiebob6267 10 месяцев назад
Yes.... So true I agree with all the above... John 19 vs 30 says.... IT IS FINISHED.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 10 месяцев назад
@@robbiebob6267 quote---es.... So true I agree with all the above... John 19 vs 30 says.... IT IS FINISHED. unquote So, since ALL the Ten Commandments are "finished". Then I can murder, steal , etc with NO consequences from God, Right???? What was finished were the sacrificial ceremonial laws!!! Given to the JEWS!!!
@robbiebob6267
@robbiebob6267 10 месяцев назад
@mitchellosmer1293.... I am trying with all my strength to be level headed & polite to your response & your outrageous assumptions or whether to take it seriously...is it worthy of a mature intelligent comment by me or anybody else?.... & I have to say it isn't!
@rickhuntling7338
@rickhuntling7338 9 месяцев назад
@@mitchellosmer1293 the New Everlasting Covenant rewrote most of the Ten. Some magnify others made less. Example; to look at another in lust is adultry instead of caught in the act by two witnesses. Honor your parents will do you well insted of stone the child who dishonors his parents and hag them from a tree to make an example of them. Sin now is not a conviction but YHWH will chasten you in this life, even unto death if necessary.
@JohnGordon-y2d
@JohnGordon-y2d Месяц назад
If you live under the old covenant,you are under a curse.
@lesleysigamoney4979
@lesleysigamoney4979 Год назад
U are totaly rong,BECOS THE BIBLE IS CLEAR ON THE SABBATH DAY.THE FIRST DAY(SUNDAY)IS NOT WRITTEN DAT THE LORD JESUS BLESS THE FIRST DAY(SUNDAY)BUT THE 7DAY SABBATH (Exodus ch20:vs 8-11
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
Your Sabbath day has nothing to do with it ...when you have their Ellen White Jesus... her Jesus is the 1844 Jesus you have no salvation... that went from the outer Court to the inner Court in 1844. putting the sins of the people on the back of the( devil )which( makes the devil the sin Bearer).. when the Jesus of the Bible says (he is our sin Bearer )!!the one that is Hebrews chapter 7... not the levite Jesus your false prophet Ellen (created )going from the outer Court to the inner Court.( that Jesus stole the cross.) and you have no salvation..!!! you can preach all he want you have nothing.
@earthlastdaybiblechannel
@earthlastdaybiblechannel Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv if you dont keep the sabbath you break the whole law and will receive the madk of the beast we obey not to be saved but willfull disobedience like cain is not well received by God all sunday churches are babylon
@jeffsimpson7282
@jeffsimpson7282 Год назад
@5:40....if you put catholics in the category of a cult, then why do you follow them in worshiping on a false day? an act that they claim as their "Mark" on power to change the bible, the commandments, and yet the protestant who claims sola scriptura, the bible only, follow the holy catholic church. look up what they and other denominations say about the sabbath. Jesus said "if you love me keep my commandments." in John 1 and several times in Paul's writings tells us that everything we have or was created came thru Him. in essence then, it was Jesus on sinai who gave the 10 commandments. and God Himself says what my lips utter i will not change.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
Your issue is not a Sabbath keeping in the first place.... your issue is if you have an Ellen White Jesus... you don't have a Jesus any better than the Pope ...or Jehovah's Witnesses. or Mormons. because your Jesus is a Levite Jesus... created from Daniel 8:14. that goes from the outer Court to the inner Court 1844 inputs the sins of the people on the back of the (devil ) which makes the (devil the sin bear) and not Jesus Christ of Hebrews chapter 7 ... from the tribe of( Judah) and not from the tribe of( Levi) which is what that Jesus would have to be .(..that Jesus doesn't exist..)! you have no salvation.!!!.
@rvaillant
@rvaillant Год назад
You are so wrong and lost in this statement.
@bop-ya-good
@bop-ya-good 10 месяцев назад
Anyone keeping a Sabbath law is under law. Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: If you are led by a law sin will have dominion over you!
@markrobby7136
@markrobby7136 9 месяцев назад
Exactly, but sda are so blind to see all these.
@johnmugo8290
@johnmugo8290 Год назад
It is finished, is exactly what Jesus said at the cross.
@treefellonya
@treefellonya Год назад
He also said "I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. (John 17:4, KJV)" - Precisely _what_ was finished? That is the question. And to say Jesus work is completed is not Biblical. He is still at work in the Heavenly Sanctuary as a High Priest this very moment.
@rickhuntling7338
@rickhuntling7338 Год назад
@@treefellonya My bible says HE is seated on HIS throne to the Right of the FATHER. Your witch says HE is in the Holy place with a mop and a bucket of blood. The Hevenly scantuary was never cast down, trodden under foot. The earthly one was and the Maccabees cleansed the scantuary of the false high priest Dec. 9th 168 bc exactly 2300 days after tit was poluted. Scripture, fulfillment and history says your 1844 nonsense was a made up lie.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@treefellonya what's Jesus doing in heaven, right now for you right now.??.Randy. mark S
@treefellonya
@treefellonya Год назад
@@jimbob1644 Read Hebrews, it tells you right there.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@treefellonya it says he went to the father and sat down!!( after he presented himself.).. until he makes you his footstool Psalms 110! Hebrews 7 says there's a changing of the law.) He doesn't practice levite law Anymore. But (that's about the true Jesus).. your Jesus is not the true Jesus you have the 1844 levite Jesus )that puts the sins on the back of the( devil.) Making Jesus Christ be the Devil himself in Leviticus 16:10 blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Matthew 12: 31+32! You see that's the issue. There is no forgiveness ..so now you need to keep the law. ..Which is a death sentence!
@rosasingh1285
@rosasingh1285 Год назад
There is no denominations in Heaven….. Only Jesus!! So don’t follow denominations….. denominations are like clubs and associations… look to the doctrines and teachings of Jesus Christ in the Bible! Check and learn what Jesus Christ said about Sabbath. Don’t follow men…. Follow the teachings and discern the Truth of God’s Word!
@nixluvsjesus
@nixluvsjesus Год назад
Yes! Apostle Paul was so clear about this 1 Corinthians 1:10-13. We need ONLY to stick to the Bible and the Holy Spirit as our Advocate, Helper, Teacher for guidance.
@virginiahnjeri6507
@virginiahnjeri6507 Год назад
Thanks well said
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
What does Hebrews chapter 4 say
@andrewscrivner1908
@andrewscrivner1908 Год назад
“Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17 NKJV
@williamstarr2346
@williamstarr2346 Год назад
Sda church does not believe in the gospel of Jesus christ, and the atonement that he make on the cross for us , they believe that keeping the sabbath day is their salvation, that is not biblical .
@stevendavis6556
@stevendavis6556 Год назад
@@williamstarr2346 Completely wrong. Show me anywhere in their 27 Fundamental beliefs where it says this. Or listen to Pastor Mark Finley or Doug Batchelor you will never here what you said.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@stevendavis6556 yeah but when you're baptized .(you're saying that the investigative judgment is part of your belief system)!!!!!!( Ellen says the devil is Jesus Christ in the 7th and 8th line of the third paragraph of the investigative judgment )!!!!!that destroys everything!
@cjfeltz2470
@cjfeltz2470 Год назад
@@williamstarr2346 You are absolutely wrong. Check your facts before pointing fingers. SDA believe salvation is by grace and grace alone in Jesus. That does not mean we should not obey His commandments. Stop spreading lies
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 11 месяцев назад
@@williamstarr2346 quote---Sda church does not believe in the gospel of Jesus christ, and the atonement that he make on the cross for us , they believe that keeping the sabbath day is their salvation, that is not biblical . unquote Quote that from their doctrines and NOT your opinion!!!
@kimeichman3798
@kimeichman3798 Год назад
Seventh day adventist is not a cult, some people are very zealous about this religion, some people can be too strict and can be just plain rude. We believe in the Bible as the only truth. That is why we go to church on the Sabbath. As a whole, we don't believe in condemning people for their believes. I'm sorry to those who had deal with rude and judgmental people in this faith, In the end, there are rude people wherever you go. It should be about having a relationship with God first, then a church.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Well let's see what you actually are saying. This is not rude or judgmental this is what (Ellen White says) your Jesus is!. Your Sabbath means absolutely nothing !when you understand this. In the investigative judgment August 31st. Maranatha page 251. She says the The second goat of Leviticus. Of the old sanctuary process. (Becomes the the devil)!!!!!!! the devil becomes the sin Bearer)!! Which is what (Jesus said he does in 1st Peter chapter 2:24!. ) So now you're Jesus is the devil! (She says the sins are not ever blotted out!) Denying! What God Says in Isaiah 43 verse 25. By claiming the devil is the sin bear !) she also destroys 1st Peter 2:24! She completely destroyed the cross !with a false Jesus! The Jesus she's speaking of in 1844) is a levite Jesus)!!!! and Hebrew 7 says he is from the tribe of Judah )!!!!and not about the law! You can be perfectly happy with the devil in that congregation you're speaking of!!! but that's all you're doing! If you're believing Ellen! (You see she broke the first commandment) and, is asking you to do the same thing! That is your belief system! And your comfortably numb with that!
@ChristianMichaels-f8g
@ChristianMichaels-f8g 7 месяцев назад
The New Testament teaches that there is only ONE Creator (the Almighty Father; Holy Spirit), and only ONE Begotten Son (Jesus the Christ; the Living Word), and only ONE Written Word (the Bible; Scripture), and only ONE Church... which Jesus claimed and referred to specifically as, "... His church" (Matthew 16:18). Jesus clearly mentioned how he would build His Church, and only His Church. He did not make any reference whatsoever to any other church. One Church, and ONLY one Church, exists in the universe... to which Jesus Christ is the Head of, and His followers make up the Body of Christ. The Bible instructs the followers of and believers in Jesus to stop here. Period. And not to go any further, for to do so would be to "add to Scripture." Adding anything else to this concerning denominations, the "trinity", "KJV only", etc... is all the wisdom of man who received it [as a thought/idea/suggestion] from the leader of the opposing army to Jesus, and often referred to as "satan". So if the conception of anything beyond Scripture starts with the enemy (satan), then it is all demonic. To be "demonic" (by defintion) is to be "resembling, or characteristic of demons or evil spirits." One Creator. One Son. One Written Word. One Church. That's it. Anything added to that [or subtracted from] has a foundation built by demons. Being a follower of (believer) Jesus, the Only Begotten Son of the Father, is sufficient. All denominations accomplish is to create division among professed disciples of Jesus through the allegiance to their [whichever] organization, leaders, doctrines, etc. Denominations among His followers are not anywhere in Scripture nor mentioned by Jesus (who clearly opposed them); they came from man who was initially given the thought [by Satan] whenever it was the concept began. If a person recognizes and partakes in them, they subsequently and incorrectly validate the denominations as scriptural and become guilty of "adding to Scripture". Identifying as anything other than a "born-again believer" or "follower of Jesus" or anything similar, is to follow "mans wisdom" and not the words and teachings of Jesus. Stop adding to Scripture. Stop subtracting from Scripture. The written Word of the Almighty Creator is just fine without your assistance, and it doesn't need anyone's suggestions, thoughts, or whatever else to make it better or easier to understand. The Almighty Father did not decide to have man begin a new "remnant church" defined as a "... visible, historical, organized body characterized by obedience to the commandments of God and the possession of a unique end-time gospel." It would be somewhere in the New Testament if legitimate, yet it is nowhere. It is just another example of the thousands of false "doctrines of demons" as the Bible refers to and warns of. If you were to do minimal research on Ellen White, you would see that she is a fraud, and so is the entire movement. Have you ever spoken to or read anything written by someone claiming to be a member of the 7th Day Adventist?? They quote the writings of Ellen White 95% of the time, and the other 5% shared by the words of Jesus and the various authors who were led and inspired by the Holy Spirit. Ellen White's inspiration was herself and other members of the religion she helped create. Stay away from anything taught in the 7th Day Adventist teachings that are not supported by Scripture. www.wayoflife.org/.../a_warning_about_seventh_day... A born-again believer should minimize their following of man as Scripture instructs and focus on Jesus, the Living Word and Only Begotten Son of the Father. No "trinity" is mentioned in Scripture; just a a few incorrectly understood verses. Therefore, by definition, it is a "doctrine of demons". Jesus said he did nothing without the Father (Holy Spirit), but he never said he did anything with "god the Holy Spirit", nor made a single reference. The Father exalted Jesus, and He now sits at His right hand and is equal to the Father, and all that the Father has He has given to the Son for He loves His Son; "The Father loves the Son, and has given all things in His hand. The one believing in the Son has eternal life. But the one disobeying the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him”. (John 3:35-36) If the Almighty Creator (referred to as "god the father") were equal to Jesus (referred to as "god the son") before His resurrection, than how did He exalt Him in the first place?? One of equal status to another is not capable of raising that other, for by what authority, superiority, or higher rank is there to do so if the two entities are equal to begin with?? Definition of exalt: "raise to a higher rank or a position of greater power." How can one who is no "greater" or "less than" capable of advancing or raising that other to a higher rank?? And why would there be a need for any of them (the trinity 3) to exalt the other if they are all equal?? And how would it be even possible for the Father to give Jesus anything if equal to one another, and already accounting for 2/3rds of the trinity?? etc, etc, etc. Stay away from anything and everything to do with a trinity, triune, 3-in-1 god, or whatever other name you want to refer to this destructive and demonic doctrine as. There is better or more perfect leader (King) in this world, and there is only One King that you can trust 100% without a shadow of a doubt; and His name is Jesus, the Christ and Only Begotten Son of the Father. Jesus is either the Only Begotten Son of the Almighty Father, which He is and which is easily proven many times over in the Word... OR, He is "god the son", which is 100% false, makes no sense whatsoever, and is never mentioned in Scripture and therefore cannot be supported or proven. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR JESUS TO [SIMULTANEOUSLY] BE "THE SON OF THE ONE TRUE CREATOR" AND "GOD THE SON"... SO WHICH ONE IS IT?? Is He the Son of His Father, which is taught, supported by, and can be proven within the Holy Scripture... or is He, "god the son", which is NOT in the Written Word, and which WAS conceived by demons, and is also influenced and supported by demons and with the help of [deceived] man. Are you still incapable of figuring out who "god the holy spirit" is?? Can you not think of one entity created by The Father and through The Son (as were we) whose desire to be "worshipped" was so great that he lost everything?? If you can figure out who desires worship more than any other creation ever made in existence, than you have just discovered who "god the holy spirit" truly is and who you have been praying to and worshipping whenever you teach, preach, or believe anything other than ONE FATHER and ONE SON. If anyone attempts to preach/teach anything to you that cannot proven within the Holy Scriptures, and continue to do so even after being corrected or rebuked... follow them no more.
@adelalax3553
@adelalax3553 Год назад
Hellen white was inspired by, what spirit? Not the Holy Spirit according to the bible they confess to follow! #2
@peppernbo
@peppernbo 2 месяца назад
ellen not hellen--lol
@BeverlyChristensen-s9y
@BeverlyChristensen-s9y Год назад
Not our prayers but Christ’s prayers-He is ever interceding for us in heaven. He is confessing His own merits in our behalf. And before He returns with our reward he will blot out our ins in His Book or blot is out of them in the day of atonement.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
That's not what Ellen White says. She says the devil becomes the sin Bearer)! And the sins never go away! The atonement was done at the cross! She says that didn't happen! (Jesus Christ is the sin Bearer )1st Peter 2:24! She says( the devil is the sin bearer,)! so she changed who Jesus is! SDA is breaking the first commandment !they don't have the true Jesus which is God!
@earthlastdaybiblechannel
@earthlastdaybiblechannel Год назад
@@jimbob1644 no as there is no forgiveness of suns withhout shedding of blood Satan bears his ows responsability for sin If you make someone drink you are bearing your sin and his sins as when someone makes other sins they are responsible for their sins also
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@earthlastdaybiblechannel it's not in the Bible and Satan is not a human being!!(( give me the verse that says that old or new.))) All as you've said as you have made the devil part of the (atonement) Leviticus 16:10 (is blaspheming Matthew 12: 31 and 32)!!!!!! there is no forgiveness! That's not Jesus in the investigative judgment that is the devil!
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 11 месяцев назад
@@jimbob1644 quote---That's not what Ellen White says. She says the devil becomes the sin Bearer)! And the sins never go away! The atonement was done at the cross! She says that didn't happen! (Jesus Christ is the sin Bearer )1st Peter 2:24! She says( the devil is the sin bearer,)! so she changed who Jesus is! SDA is breaking the first commandment !they don't have the true Jesus which is God! unquote I SUGGEST you RESEARCH that!!! Leviticus 16:10 “But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.” The scapegoat iS PRESENTED to the Lord!!! He will let the scapegoat go OUTside the city!!!! -Why is EGW responsible for what GOD SAID!!!!!!! ----
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 11 месяцев назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Leviticus 16:10 “But the goat, on which the lot fell to be the scapegoat, shall be presented alive before the LORD, to make an atonement with him, and to let him go for a scapegoat into the wilderness.” -----This investigative judgment determines who of the myriads sleeping in the dust of the earth are worthy of a part in the first resurrection, and who of its living multitudes are worthy of translation (1 Peter 4:17, 18; Daniel 7:9, 10; Revelation 14:6, 7; Luke 20:35). SO, according to you--it is Satan that decides who goes to heaven and who does not!!! THAT MAKES Satan MORE POWERFUL than GOD!!!!
@earlmccoubrey7580
@earlmccoubrey7580 7 месяцев назад
If SDA was a cult, members would be required to believe particular church dogma, such as Ellen White’s writings. We’re not. Ellen White herself wrote that readers should read their Bible and not rely on her writings. She said if her or anyone else’s writings help a Christian understand the Bible, then fine… read. But, the Bible is to be the Christian’s guide. Besides Ellen White, Adventists read writings from other authors such as Philip Yancey and CS Lewis. Cults prohibit adherents from reading anything other than that church’s dogma. Now, there are individuals and even pastors who rely inappropriately on Ellen White’s writings. But, that’s them, not the SDA church. I teach Bible to young teenagers, and I don’t use Ellen White’s writings. I use the Bible only. I’ve never had comment from the Church; never will. Why do we worship on Saturday rather than Sunday? Because the Bible says to. Please see Genesis 2:2-3, and the fourth commandment. We keep the Sabbath on the Seventh day of the week rather than the first day of the week because that’s what God did and that’s what He entreats believers to do. Works? We’re adamant that salvation is by faith, not works… straight from the Bible. At the same time, scripture says that faith without works is dead. Works are not for getting salvation; rather, works on Jesus’s behalf is a celebration of our coming to faith. It’s in the Bible. The church does have a collection of beliefs. The church operates the second largest network of schools and universities and hospitals and clinics, so a statement of beliefs is especially essential for an organization. Adventism takes Jesus’s second coming seriously, and advocates for its adherents to heed the three angels’ messages in Revelations 14:6-12. Further, Adventism encourages members to adjust beliefs and lifestyle to conform to the Bible so as to be members of the remnant church described in the Bible. Is that works? Does obedience to the Bible constitute works? Christian pastors and influencers would serve God and humankind better by helping people understand the Bible than trying to classify Adventism as a cult. If it was a cult I would not participate, but it isn’t and so I do.
@ericnichols3252
@ericnichols3252 Год назад
This is EXACTLY what Scofield did.....somehow convince us that we needed HIS insight to understand Scripture. Such blasphemy!
@carlosv3273
@carlosv3273 Год назад
Blasphemy? I dont know who this Scofield person is, so I have no comment on him. But please consider this. Did not Jesus have to send His disciples to re-teach Jews how the messianic prophecies were fulfilled by Christ? Jesus commanded them to preach the gospel and all the things He taught them. And what do we see throughout His earthly ministry? We see Jesus often having to correct the people's theological understandings. His disciples had to do the same thing. Why? Why was there a need for that? What the devil did with the Jewish people in leading them to misunderstand much of the scriptures, and corrupting the scriptures, he has done with Christians. Not everything Christians believe is wrong, but there are several issues that need to be re-evaluated. God still has to be raising up people among Christians to bring people back to true meanings of Scripture. And right along all that the devil does not stay behind. He is right at work and uses people he has deceived to counteract what God is striving to do for all of us. God still chooses to use people to help people. Its how He has always operated. Its up to us, with the help of God, to know who is from God and who is not. The bible gives us a few major things to help us with this. 1) The help of the Holy Spirit. 2) Isaiah 8:20. To the law and testimony. 3) Matthew 7:15-20 we shall recognize them by their fruit.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Eric. Are you SDA?
@ericnichols3252
@ericnichols3252 Год назад
@@jimbob1644 No, I'm Presbyterian
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@ericnichols3252 so what are those what's the meaning of the word blasphemy in the statement you first made
@starcityrc3298
@starcityrc3298 Год назад
My experience with the SDA is nothing like any of these comments are saying? I have no idea where this slander is coming from. Why there is so much hate and animosity. If you walked into the church I go to and nobody told you it was an SDA church you would never know. You would just assume it's a run of the mill Protestant Church. The people are warm and welcoming. My Church actually was one of the few that stood up against the COVID Lockdowns and refused to close the doors. We believe in being saved by Grace Alone. Everything we base our beliefs on is in Scripture.. Ellen G White is rarely ever mention at my Church. Typically just a quote or two. We focus on what's actually important. The Bible. We will read a verse and then it's an open format to discuss. Anyone is welcome to attend. One of my Favorite Christian Speaker is Dr. Michael Brown. Just to give you some perspective. I really enjoy Lee Strobels content as well. I will pray for those of you with unwarranted Hate against my Church. If you believe Christ is Lord. You are my Brothers and sisters. Please don't hate us. New Creation Seventh-day adventist church in Lancaster County, Nebraska
@EuropeanPOW
@EuropeanPOW 4 месяца назад
SDA = 🐍 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
@bop-ya-good
@bop-ya-good Год назад
Anyone keeping a Sabbath law is under law. Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: If you are led by a law sin will have dominion over you! Believers are no longer led or under the schoolmaster of the law! Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. Adventists are led and are under the schoolmaster of the law! Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. What Adventist fail to understand is sin is overcomed by GRACE...not by the sevies pityful efforts in law keeping. Pray for this cult and its false gospel.
@lyonpaque3100
@lyonpaque3100 Год назад
Simple question MATE, is it okay, to murder, commit adultery, steal, lie, etc? The point you glaringly miss, is that, when the Holy Spirit indwells humanity, THE LAW IS KEPT. It's a law of Love. If you understood the verse you're quoting (Romans 3:19) you would know that the condemnation of the law condemns those who are under the law and not those in the spirit of the Law. Hebrews 8:8"For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord..." Hebrews 8:10 "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts...":
@bop-ya-good
@bop-ya-good Год назад
​@@lyonpaque3100 its so difficult to talk to someone who doesnt know how to use their bible. FYI, law doesnt prevent sin! You see mate law increase the knowledge of sin! Grace conquers sin! Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. But as SDA belief is the law is still binding placing themselves under the power of the curse of the law I will need to explain what that law is and to who it applies. Lets start shall we? 1) The law is the covenant ten commandments. T/F ?
@atreastaasreas1965
@atreastaasreas1965 Год назад
@@bop-ya-good just because we are under grace it doesn’t mean we can murder,steal,cheat etc.If you love God and your fellow man you are not going to do bad things.Out of love toward God it comes automatically to do good.Salvation it’s not about works but faith without works is dead.Again just because I am saved I am not running around shooting people.This guy talks a lot of vegetables.
@bop-ya-good
@bop-ya-good Год назад
@atreastaasreas1965 no what it means we are not under law but under grace. You add law you lose!!
@jimcovell1067
@jimcovell1067 Год назад
Man made it clear we fail on our own so Jesus came along so thankfully.
@FirstladyShantei
@FirstladyShantei Год назад
You can't decide if they're the true church when you are in error. You keep Sunday holy which is a doctrine started by Catholicism, along with Easter and Christmas etc
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Sharing the vision. Ellen G white estates. The investigative judgment maranatha. page 251. Google it.. it'll come up in 3 seconds. In the middle of the third paragraph. (Ellen says the devil becomes the sin bearer) of Leviticus 16: 10. When Jesus said he does that 1st Peter 2:24. Hebrews 9:28. Ellen says the sins are placed on the devil for all of time !and they never go away .they're never blotted out and they're always remembered. Destroying what Jesus said In Isaiah 43 verse 25. Claiming that the devil is part of the atonement. Saying that what the devil does the work of the Holy Spirit. Matthew 12,:31+32 blaspheming the Holy Spirit! She says that is your Jesus! Your Sabbath means absolutely nothing! Look who your Jesus is!
@wilderrayarano2690
@wilderrayarano2690 Год назад
True
@warlyfresh
@warlyfresh Год назад
​@jimbob1644 you're twisting what is mentioned in the book. It doesn't say that Satan is part of the atonement. I'm not sure if English is your first language or not, it's not not my first language and I understand what the paragraph says.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
You're right she doesn't tell you that. The second goat is Jesus Christ ) of Leviticus 16:10. ( she put the devil in the position of Jesus Christ. )!!!The second goat of Leviticus 1610 is Jesus Christ)!!! Atoning for the sins of people.)) (She says the devil is in that position!!)!! and Jesus Christ is not there! Which is ( attributing to the Devil himself with Jesus Christ did it the cross.!!! You have no atonement !!!and you have no Jesus. !!You use the word Jesus but you have nothing !!!you're not saved!! To attribute to the Devil with what Jesus Christ the Holy Spirit does himself... is blaspheming the holy spirit Matthew 12! If you get baptized in the SDA Church. you agree that that is the truth.( the investigative judgment .)otherwise you can't be a member!
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@warlyfresh the uploaders blocking the comments to you but I think you can read what I wrote to you!
@EricHort-cx1jp
@EricHort-cx1jp Год назад
HE THAT THINKETH HE STAND TAKE HEED LEST HE FALL Sir apparently you know very little of what Adventists believe only what you think they believe. YOU HAVE a lot of what you are saying is wrong.You can't go by what other Adventists believe if you are attacking Ellen White because many Adventists were not always correct and not all Adventists believe in Ellen White. E.W. always encourages people to get back to the Bible and salvation though the blood and righteousness of Christ. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Actually I do know more than you know, about what you say you know. The investigative judgment. August 31. The vision. page 251. Ellen White makes the devil be Jesus Christ, by saying he is the sin bearer. An the sins are never blotted out and your always investigated! Destroying the cross! and giving you the devil for being Jesus Christ!! Destroying 1st Peter 2:24 in Isaiah 43: She says that's your Jesus!!
@elenarae_
@elenarae_ Год назад
Dear people, follow God not people. Read and meditate on the word of God day and night. That's where you will get all the answers. I'm really tired of all Christian denominations putting each other down. May the Holy Spirit guide you, regardless what church you go to. Only God can convict.
@zbigniewkarnilowicz5311
@zbigniewkarnilowicz5311 Год назад
I've been getting the impression that those who are trying to prove the 7th-Day Adventist understanding of God's plan of salvation for the fallen human race is unbiblical have not studied the topic with the honesty of purpose of a true disciple of Jesus, the Messiah. And it's a very true and helpful statement to say that we need to be led into the Truth by the Spirit of Truth and should not listen to men, especially if they regard themselves as educated and "qualified".
@gwensampson1336
@gwensampson1336 7 месяцев назад
I like what you say...Im SDA ofcourse...not following any human dead or alive...but JESUS.AMEN
@charnelallan7159
@charnelallan7159 6 месяцев назад
​@@gwensampson1336Stop being a hypocrite. All Ur doctrines R based on good old ellen visions
@keletikeleti2095
@keletikeleti2095 5 месяцев назад
​@@charnelallan7159..You yourself should keep your eyes fixed on Jesus Christ the author and the finisher of our faith, to make sure your house is in order, let God and God alone judge the SDA people , if we are against him and his will, he will judge us accordingly..not this preacher or any other so called Christian condemning sda and called them cult..may God have mercy on your soul.. before you picked the speck out of your brother's eye, make sure you take the log out of your eye first.. good day..
@brass1951
@brass1951 5 месяцев назад
@@keletikeleti2095 Ephesians 5:11, “Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead EXPOSE them.”
@keletikeleti2095
@keletikeleti2095 5 месяцев назад
@@brass1951 What happened if you're wrong what then ???
@glorialoo3165
@glorialoo3165 4 месяца назад
There is no religion/Church today that has not deviated from the truths of the Bible. As for SDA they have even deviated from the words of Ellen White “Christ is not equal to God Almighty”
@joanwilkinson337
@joanwilkinson337 4 месяца назад
I am not a member of any church. I did a little study with Mormons. A little study with JW's, they both come a knocking. My husband was a RC & l have stacks of that theology that l have saved & filed along with the other. Now, l can tell you l have studied deeply with SDA's and EGW never claimed to be a prophet. The church claims that & l agree with them. She herself never claimed to be a prophet. As you read her writings, she never says anything contrary to scripture that l have found. I think God uses her to explain the meaning to make it easier to understand. My RC husband once said, "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Adventists are in first place." I tend to think, this post is splitting a lot of hairs. Yes, Satan is Suttle. Although l am not a member of the SDA church, it would be my 1st choice. AMEN!
@carlosv3273
@carlosv3273 Год назад
Everybody who listens to anybody who criticicizes another believer, or church, should always keep in mind that Jesus was also criticize by His people, and even today His own people, as a nation, still teach that Jesus was an imposter. Now why did that happen, and is still happening today? Also keep in mind that those who challenged Jesus the most were the leaders/teachers of Israel. Why? I have been around many people of different denominations, and only those who have humbly studied the Bible and allow the Bible to interpret itself arrive to conclusions the SDA church has on the Sabbath, and a few other teachings. My own Pentecostal grandmother, who read the Bible daily, told me before passing away, that she was keeping the Sabbath alone in her house the best she understood, because she came to realize that the Lord's Day was actually the 7th day of the week. I myself have had to carefully reconsider what I believe because of so many negative things others say about this denomination, including by former SDA's. And I usually find the same problems. The attacks are mostly on Ellen White. Why, because good contextual study of the word proves that the SDA church does indeed have a solid foundation, thus making it hard to refute. So attacks are redirected to the woman whom God raised during a time Satan also raised his false prophets like Joseph Smith. Satan did the same during the days of Martin Luther the reformer, and raised Ignatius of Loyol to counterattack the Protestant reformation. Just like many have wrested bible scriptures to mean something else than its true meaning, many have done this with Ellen Whites writings. And it worst when people try to debunk her with wrested Scriptures.
@alongcamejones309
@alongcamejones309 Год назад
On U Tube " Christian Scholars Forum" basically made up of 5 Ex graduates of Theology at SDA Universities NOW do not believe any of the unique and somewhat unusual doctrines of the SDA Church. These 5 as well as their many Guests, mostly ex SDA can prove conclusively IMO from Scripture and Church History that EGW was a false Prophet and false teacher and a consistent small time fraudster. The Scholarship of this Forum is Excellent 👌👍
@carlosv3273
@carlosv3273 Год назад
@@alongcamejones309 sorry my friend, it was scholors that demanded for Jesus to be crucified. It was scholors who opposed the protestant movement. Education means nothing unless its consecrated to God. Without that consecration we just become educated fools.
@alongcamejones309
@alongcamejones309 Год назад
@Mencari Kebenaran Well that is precisely what I have been saying. EGW has been weighed in the Balance and has been found wanting.
@alongcamejones309
@alongcamejones309 Год назад
@Mencari Kebenaran So that is why it is easy to say that EGW was a false Prophet. Easy as falling off a log bec it's 100% true.
@JamieElison
@JamieElison Год назад
Yeah but nobody justifies the devil and Ellen White. Don't take scripture out of context!!
@cyberfalcon7019
@cyberfalcon7019 Год назад
CHRIST IS NOT THE SCAPEGOAT, YOU ARE SO SO CONFUSED AND SLOW OF UNDESTANDING. WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT CHRIST IS SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER?
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Well if you're saying that the devil is part of the atonement )your blaspheming the Holy Spirit Matthew 12 31 and 32! Is that what you're saying? Because that's what Ellen says!
@janetdavidson8798
@janetdavidson8798 Год назад
God created the New Testament for a reason ! It's the new covenant that we live by . God's greatest commandments , Matthew 22 ; 36-40 . All 9 commandments are in the NT except for keeping the Sabbath . Colossians 2 :16 .
@jeffsimpson7282
@jeffsimpson7282 Год назад
really? does teaching come by just words? or by example as well. the gospels mention several times that "as His custom (habit, teaching) was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day." in the book of Acts Paul is recorded doing the same, not just the jews but gentiles as well and once the gentiles asked him to come back the next Sabbath to tell them more. in antioch he and barnabas stayed for a whole year(Acts 11:26) then later in chapter 14 "stayed a long time," Acts 18 he reasoned with jew and gentile for a year and a half, then on to Ephesus teaching, preaching for 3 years. Jn 1:1 it's said "in the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was God." if Jesus is the word, can He go against his own word? if He is the word and the word was God, and he says of HImself, "I speak not of my own but what the Father tells me" how can the Father go against Himself or His word or the Son speak contrary to what the Father has said? i'm sure if you study there were different sabbaths in the ceremonial feast days and weeks. these were not part of the 10 commandments but the "laws of ordinance" which Moses wrote in a book that was placed in a compartment on the outside of the ark. these were the laws for the ceremonies, feast. they were yearly sabbaths. they all pointed to certain aspects of Jesus work for salvation. the 10 commandments were placed inside the ark, under the mercy seat along with aaron's rod that budded and a pot of mana. adventist believe Pauls instruction to Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:16,17 that ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." there was the nation of Israel, whom God had called them not to be just different or peculiar but to share their witness to others. but as the prophecy foretold they would fail and their rejection as a nation of Jesus sealed their fate, as a nation. individually yes but not as a nation. from the time that Stephen was stoned, the gospel went to the gentiles, by Peter going to Cornelius and after Paul's conversion. that is why Paul many times referred to believing gentiles as Abraham's seed by faith and being grated in, and heirs according to the promise. the spiritual Israel not the fleshly Israel. all the promises given to Israel were now for spiritual Israel. but as many forget, not just the promises, but also the warnings. there is a promise in Isaiah 66:22,23, speaking of the promise of a new heaven and new earth, "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make shall remain before Me, says the Lord, and your name remain. And it shall come to pass that from one new moon to another and from one Sabbath to another. all flesh shall come to worship before me" says the Lord." if God says this is the way it will be in heaven, why should anyone say, no, i will do it my way? is that not why there was rebellion in heaven with satan?
@jeffsimpson7282
@jeffsimpson7282 Год назад
really? the verse in Colossians is referring to the feast day sabbaths, which were annual sabbaths, not the weekly Sabbath. and teaching is done not only by word but by example. " as was His custom He (Jesus) went into the synagogue to teach and to preach." read Luke 4:16-30, 6:6-11, 13:10-16, 14:1-5. and in Acts you will find many instances of Paul doing the same, in different places on his missionary trips, once for 3 weeks he taught gentiles on the Sabbath, then for months in places such as Antioch, Phillipi, Thessalonica, even a year in one and a year and a half, and in Ephesus for 3 years, "as his custom was." in James he says if you break one you break all. Paul says "I would have not known sin if the law did not say thou shalt not covet." God has said " what I utter from my mouth I shall not change." "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever." and Paul says "thinking it not robbery to be equal with God." and Jesus said " for I have not spoken of Myself, but of the Father which sent Me, He gave Me a commandment, what I should say and what i should speak." how then could there be any difference between them? the bible says, " can two walk together if they not be in accord?" perhaps you should go back into the Law books and find the difference between the 7th day Sabbath and the annual sabbaths of the feasts. the 7th day Sabbath was on the tables of stone, under the mercy seat of the ark. the annual ones were written by Moses in a book that contained the directions for sacrifices and when and how to keep the feast days, weeks. that book was the law contained in ordinances that was put in a compartment on the side of the ark. those pointed to the work of Christ in salvation. those were what was "nailed to the cross," not the 10 commandments. look up Sabbathtruth.com and watch the series with Hal Holbrook. you will learn a lot.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@jeffsimpson7282 are you SDA? if you are ,I want to show you who your Jesus is !!your Sabbath won't matter!
@alanmacmillan6957
@alanmacmillan6957 Год назад
I love how you support with the bible quote about the new covenant ; it's also backed up in book of Hebrews, and yet....... people don't want to believe.... you get a whole bunch of argument back. to which I will add Matthew 24: 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@jeffsimpson7282 none of that matters you don't have Jesus Christ as your savior! You got the 1844 investigative judgment Jesus ..that becomes the Devil himself read it!!
@remnantime3672
@remnantime3672 Год назад
Im proud to be an SDA...
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
So you're glad to not have the true Jesus of the Bible.( The one that puts the sins on the devil !!!! (and makes the devil be the sin bear)... rather than the Jesus of Hebrews 7. You have no salvation !what blasphemy)!
@jimcovell1067
@jimcovell1067 Год назад
Pride goes before the fall.
@MrLibertyHugger
@MrLibertyHugger Год назад
Baa-baa said the sheep in “Animal Farm”
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@MrLibertyHugger that's not what they sound like on my farm!
@EliSanchez436
@EliSanchez436 Год назад
Amén.
@acuriousfellow
@acuriousfellow 6 месяцев назад
As an Adventist of many years standing I have to agree with this presentation sadly. I say sadly because I have many good friends in the church who have been gullible just like me and believed in the authority which the church leadership has attributed to Ellen White and the teaching of the investigative judgment of 1844. But no more. Be careful not to be too hard on the church members it’s the leaders at the top that are going to face God one day. There are many “loving and lovable Christian’s” to quote EGW. in the Adventist Church. Thanks
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
Matthew 13:52, 53 "Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord. Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe which is instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure things new and old." Old and new things...like the law of God, the old and new testaments. Blessings as you study God's Word.
@Musicmadedifferent
@Musicmadedifferent Год назад
Not able to tell if you are opposed or for this video.
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
@@Musicmadedifferent To be honest, I have not viewed it. If it's more anti-Sabbath, anti-Adventism video, I don't feel like wasting my time. I only want to say the Bible teaches that the commandments stand, including the 4th. If I'm wrong please show me where from scripture.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@williamstroud1455 I did
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Did what?
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@williamstroud1455 I showed you from scripture ..that you can't exist.. can't happen. without the 457 to 1844 equation it doesn't happen.
@georgejaquith4732
@georgejaquith4732 Год назад
You should check the historical facts. Though some Adventists called Ellen White a prophetess, she denounced that and said she was only a messenger. There are many great Adventist churches who pay little attention to Ellen White, since they emphasized the Bible first, foremost and last. If one reads Desire of the Ages, they will see nothing contradictory in light of the Bible.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
The Bible first does not make a demonic Jesus in 1844 that does not forgive sin! It's written in investigative judgment ..if you don't understand that you might want to read it. No Christian has an SDA Jesus!! And she didn't denounce.anyting! She said if you doubt her you are doubting the word of God ..what else do you think she's saying!?
@gwensampson1336
@gwensampson1336 8 месяцев назад
​@@jimbob1644whats unclear to you?She denounced the fact that they called her "prophetess" just to be crystal clear.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 8 месяцев назад
@@gwensampson1336 but she also said if you do not believe her you're defying God himself. So she's really (saying God said )!!!!no matter what you say.. I know more about her than you do!. The woman was sent to you (by the Devil Himself) and you don't know it!
@gwensampson1336
@gwensampson1336 8 месяцев назад
@@jimbob1644 We follow the Bible first...anything else is secondary especia lly if it doesnt correspond with Gods word!I dont want to know anybody else but Jesus sir
@AndrewVellu
@AndrewVellu 5 месяцев назад
Very true, reading everything in the spirit of prophecy has to say will give you a very deep understanding of the great controversy between good and evil. Not every adventist member was told about the spirit of prophecy?
@AhumuzaAlex-t1d
@AhumuzaAlex-t1d 5 месяцев назад
I would like to know which denomination is he from
@leejohnson6328
@leejohnson6328 Год назад
a woman should learn in silence and full submission she should not have authority over a man
@WayneCharron-wt8wx
@WayneCharron-wt8wx Год назад
He or she who is without disease please let me know and I will gladly sign up and join that church..blessings and joy continue increasing unto you and yours in Christ Name Amen Shalome !
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
It might depending on the power that's preventing the diseases for what you use to get rid of them. My grandmother could do witchcraft and make it go away! She was a church member. Did you want to join her church! And the deadly wound was healed and all the world wondered after the Beast
@melodykubiak5850
@melodykubiak5850 8 месяцев назад
No Adventist has ever claimed to be free from disease, so what you're saying is purely sarcasm. Adventists tend to be HEALTHIER than the average person. That's been proven by non-Adventist studies, as well as Adventists.
@user-wm8wl5xf6w
@user-wm8wl5xf6w 4 месяца назад
The Holy Spirit was given to us to lead us into all truths and to Christ the light.
@user-wm8wl5xf6w
@user-wm8wl5xf6w 4 месяца назад
The Word of God is lamp unto my feet and a light on my path Psalm 119:105
@wendiwestenburg6052
@wendiwestenburg6052 Год назад
And they come w angels ! Diff gospels! And light ! New light! Crap
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
The 4th commandment, the commandment that says "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath dayand hallowed it." Wow! It's the longest of the 10 commandments. You see by whose authority the commandments are given, all in this commandment. The Lord thy God, who made heaven and earth and the sea and all that is in them. The Creator. Oh, that's right, according to you we don't need to keep the commandments. Let's see...Jesus kept them for us so we don't have to. We don't have to keep the Sabbath because He did it for us. Oh, and He had no other gods before the Father so we don't have to keep that one. That was a Jewish thing, eh? Only the Jews needed to keep the commandments. And what about not worshipping idols. Well Jesus didn’t worship idols so we don’t have to not worship them. I guess that means we can worship them, according to, guess who, you again. Jesus did not take the name of the Lord in vain so we don’t have to not do that, therefore, we can. According to you. So If we go according to you, which we do not, we don’t need to keep the commandments since Jesus did that for us. We can dishonor our elders, murder, commit adultery, lie, steal and covet because, hey, Jesus kept the commandments for us so we don’t have to. Do you see how wrong it is to think we are not obliged to keep the 10 commandments. That’s 10, not 9. The roman catholic church claims to have changed the Sabbath to the 1st day of the week, a day you honor, following catholic tradition, but if you read your Bible you will find no authority for such a change. Speaking of the change from the 7th day Sabbath to Sunday as the day of worship, the catholic church says “Sunday is our mark of authority …. The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact” (The Catholic Record of London, Ontario, Sept. 1, 1923). There you have it from the horse’s mouth. Not only the admission that Sunday observance is their “mark” but also additional blasphemous statement saying their “authority” is above the Bible. Blessings to all as you study God’s Word.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
You could write all the pages you want.... Here's the Clincher is your Jesus the Ellen White Jesus,( of Daniel 8:14) ???if it is. you don't have the true Jesus of the Bible.. until you get this solved you can preach all you want ,,and you're still not saved..
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Daniel 8:14 doesn't mention Jesus. It talks about the cleansing of the sanctuary, the "day of atonement" spoken of in Leviticus 16. The high priest performed the ceremony on that day. Who is our high priest? According to Hebrews chapter 4, Jesus is. Is that the Jesus you refer to as "Ellen White's Jesus"? That's the Jesus of the Bible. That's my Jesus. Is there another? I go by what the Bible teaches and I will let the God of the Bible decide whether I'm saved or not, thank you. And how about you...who is your Jesus? Someone other that the one found in the Bible? Oh, that's dangerous. Stick to the Bible for your own sake. Blessings
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@williamstroud1455 you're not telling the truth... Ellen said that that Jesus. went from the outer Court to the inner Court in 1844. he didn't ......do that.... and if you're believing that Jesus went from the outer Court to the inner Court. the levite law had died at the cross ....Jesus stop all levite law... at the cross... what you're saying is Jesus didn't stop the Levite. law.( which in that case she was declaring that that would be the annual cleansing)))) so why didn't it happen every year after the crucifixion rather than just an 1844???.??? that's stupid. Even stupider yet is they had the starting date in Nissan one of Ezra chapter 7 which is (Nissan one )which is in (March) they had the ending date in October ))) it doesn't match))) it doesn't matter it never existed in the first place anyway.!!!!. I can prove it ,never happened ...because they lied to you about the 2300 days... she's a false prophet ... that's the lie she told that made you all believe she's telling the truth ...because none of you know what Daniel 8. 8 through 14 is saying.!!! I'll bet everything you have,,, you can't interpret Daniel 8 through 14 and give me the meaning of it. . Jesus in Matthew 24:15 told you to understand it...( and you never have.!!!!..) so you're saying (that Jesus) that you're speaking of in 1844 was not the Jesus At The Cross)))) (don't be this blind) first of all the sanctuary never got cleansed.. in 1844... why would a dirty Sanctuary be in heaven in the first place you really got to think about this and not be this naive ...because the days the 2300 days never happened...( the 2300 days or the prophecy of Daniel 8 8 through 14 and you don't know what it means))!!! and you never will because you believe that false prophet in the first place!!!! now if you want me to explain this in detail...I can... because I've studied it for 50 years I know what you're doing ...you're speaking out of both sides of your mouth and you don't know who your Jesus is... it took me (3 seconds )to realize (what cult u. Are in )when I first started seeing what you people are saying... Hebrews 4 is exactly right but Hebrews 7 says who he is you might want a particularly Read 11 + 12 but all the rest is just as important and Read Psalms 110 ...notice he's sitting at the right hand of the father he never went from the outer Court to the inner Court... Hebrew s 7 says he's from the tribe of Judah. I was reading again what you wrote is there another sDa claims there is... they have the (Archangel Michael as being there Jesus also ))which is blasphemy as they blaspheme the sanctuary in Daniel 8.. also. when they claimed it is now in heaven..
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv So Mary, first…do you know a guy named Jimbob? Anyhow, you start off by saying I’m “not telling the truth”. There is a name for that. Are you calling me a liar? You are. How do you know I’m lying? If I say something that is incorrect, but I believe it to be true, then I am not lying. Lying is saying something you know to be false in an attempt to deceive someone. Do you have the power to read my mind and know for sure that I’m lying? Or could I be saying what I believe to be true, in which case it’s not lying. Whatever. Next, what are you talking about, Jesus moving from the outer court to the inner court? Who ever said anything like that? Not me, not Ellen White. Next, yes the Levitical/ ceremonial law ended at the cross and Jesus, from the tribe of Judah is our high priest in the heavenly sanctuary as stated in Hebrews chapter 4. The day of atonement hasn’t occurred every year because, the Lamb of God is not sacrificed every year. He was sacrificed once for all. I understand that after believing one thing for 50 years, that when someone says something different it’s hard to let go. It’s not what I say, it’s not what Ellen White says, it’s what the Bible says. If you have a problem with that I suggest you bring it up with God. Blessings. More later, I gotta go.
@timarnett672
@timarnett672 Год назад
SO YOU ARE WILLIAM STROUD. SOME FELLOW KEEPS SAYING I AM YOU. LOL. KEEP THE FAITH WILLIAM, NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY GNASH UPON YOU WITH THEIR TEETH.
@MultiMark2
@MultiMark2 Год назад
Its a cult
@tonycooke3982
@tonycooke3982 3 месяца назад
100% a cult
@RubyMidiwabu
@RubyMidiwabu Год назад
Coming from an Anglican church background, and I discovered that SDA is a well organized church, I learnt more about the bible. They are not cults.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
But the investigative judgment says the devil becomes (Jesus Christ). Did you ever read it?. The prophecies you're being taught here are all lies ,because I know them all. It took me three seconds to realize what they did( with the 2300 days) that belong in Daniel 8... All's you have said is (you never learned anything in the Bible where you were)!! and now you think you are.!( That's how they hook you,!) They don't have the real Jesus!
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
Well they don't have the Jesus Christ of Hebrews 7 that makes them a cult
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 11 месяцев назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv quote---Well they don't have the Jesus Christ of Hebrews 7 that makes them a cult--unquote THAT IS AN OPINION with NO facts!!! CULT: #1----a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. "the cult of St. Olaf" #2----a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. "a network of Satan-worshiping cults" Similar: sect religious group denomination religious order church faith faith community belief persuasion affiliation movement group body faction clique #3----a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing. "a cult of personality surrounding the leaders" Looks to me that EVERY religion/idealogy FITS every definition!!! >>>>
@AndrewVellu
@AndrewVellu 5 месяцев назад
It's not a cult but currently they are not preaching what they are supposed to teach and preach... Daniel and Revelation and we are God's movement of Revelation 14
@LeonelSousa-px3dr
@LeonelSousa-px3dr 4 месяца назад
You can deceive those only who don't know the Bible truth who have pleasure in iniquity (sin) transgressions of God's Law 1 John 3:4
@frommycup9360
@frommycup9360 Год назад
"You have been estranged from Christ, you who seek to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace!" Galatians 5:3 and later "those who are led by the Spirit are NOT UNDER THE LAW," Galatians 5:18. Paul wrote so much against the turning back to the old ways. If you seek to be justified by the old covenant you are bound to keep the whole law! Jesus told us about what was coming- the new cannot patch the old, He has made an entirely NEW garment! The new wine would BURST the old wineskins! The law is good, but we were the gaping hole within it, unable, without Jesus, to live up to a holy standard. Hebrews says that restrictions like food, clothing, and festival days were upheld until the time of reformation! We have come into a Kingdom that isn't seen or shaken. I pray that our SDA brothers and sisters come to hold fast to the LIBERTY by which Christ has made us free! Amen!
@returntoeden
@returntoeden Год назад
Seventh-day Adventist all believe that they are saved by grace through faith. None believe that they are saved by works. What most of us also believe is that because we are saved, we should be grateful and choose to obey God's law out of love: John 14:15; 1John 5:1-3; 2John 2:6; James 1:25, 2:10-12; Matt 22:37-40; Rev 12:17, 14:12, 22:14
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@returntoeden by Grace from from who? the investigative judgment. maranatha page 251. Ellen ( makes the devil be Jesus Christ.)!!! That is who she says you're Jesus is !read it!( making the devil be the sin Bearer )!!and (the sins are never blotted out )! Destroying who Jesus is.!!!! Isaiah 43 verse 25. 1st Peter 2:24! There's your grace!
@returntoeden
@returntoeden Год назад
@@jimbob1644 Grace comes from the God of Creation YeHoVaH & Yeshua both. How do you honor the God of Creation if not abiding by His word Rev 14:7; Exo 20:11; Gen 2:1-4?
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@returntoeden all you're saying is you're calling Jesus Christ the devil. That's why you're saying what you're. you don't even know what the Bible says!. The equation that created that lie in the first place .you can't get from 457 BC in the spring of the year to the fall of 1844 with 2300 it's impossible. See I know what the 2300 days actually mean. You believe the lie! You're saying there's a sharing arrangement between the devil and Jesus Christ for atonement! That's blasphemy!
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@returntoeden you know( by attributing to the Devil with Jesus did)) in in 1st Peter 2:24 and Hebrews 9:28. And claiming there are no more sins Isaiah 43:25.( Attributing what the Holy Spirit did at the cross..( that to the devil). ( like you just did)!!! which is the Holy Spirit. Look what Matthew 12: 31 and 32. Is saying about you!
@starcityrc3298
@starcityrc3298 Год назад
THEY DON'T TEACH WORKS!!! Where are you getting this False information? We believe in Justification through Faith Alone! Please Sir, just go to a SDA Church and spend some time with the people.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Well the 1844 investigative judgment says that's what it's about!! That Jesus doesn't forgive any sins.. nor did that ever happen! just subtract 457 from 2300.. there's your true Prophet! Right?
@bop-ya-good
@bop-ya-good Год назад
Poem of the SDA`s Salvation. Those who accept the Saviour, with hearts pure and true Their conversion sincere, their faith shining bright and new But never should they be taught, to say or to feel That they are saved, for this is not entirely real For our journey's not complete, until we reach the end And though we strive for righteousness, temptations will still bend So we must always be mindful, and seek His guiding light To lead us to salvation, and make our wrongs take flight For we are but human, with weaknesses that we hold And of ourselves, we cannot save, and never should be bold To say we're saved, for that's a matter for the Lord And only He can judge us, and bestow His holy word So let us always be humble, and trust in His great grace And walk the path of righteousness, with humility and faith For only then, when our time comes, shall we hear Him say "Well done, good and faithful servant, enter into heaven's way.
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Год назад
Find a person who says they are saved and ask them if they are ALSO a good & faithful servant.
@bop-ya-good
@bop-ya-good Год назад
@@bobreese4807 my salvation is in the finished work of he cross. His works not mine. Adventists have a different righteousness mate. Paul explains this .... Romans 10:5 KJV - For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. This is the false gospel of adventism and Ellen.
@bobreese4807
@bobreese4807 Год назад
@@bop-ya-good You are a parrot victim of modern antinomian Pharisees , mentioned in 2 PET 3:16. You don't know what the gospel and salvation mean. PAUL?? Read Rom 2:13, 3:31, 5:9 &10, 8:4, 1 Cor 7:19 and Phil 2:12...Tit 3:5 Run for your life from Calvin or evangelical heretics!!!
@JamieElison
@JamieElison Год назад
​@@bop-ya-good is that the 1844 Jesus that does not forgive sins.... that was created by by the false prophet Ellen White??
@bop-ya-good
@bop-ya-good Год назад
@@JamieElison Its the righteousness as described by Paul...Rom 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. They are on probationary salvation.
@Perry847
@Perry847 Год назад
They say that our sins were placed on the scape goat,that is a dangerous lie,our sins were placed on Jesus,they say the mark of the beast is keeping Sunday worship,that is a lie,the mark of the beast is a chip that will be placed on the forehead or in the hand or you cannot buy or sell,they say that the non Christian will be burnt up,that is a lie,hell is eternal,man is made up of body,soul,and spirit,after death he still lives forever,Luke chapter 16, either heaven or hell,they say they have replaced Israel,a big lie,they have not replaced Israel,Israel exists today and will have 7 years to recognize Jesus as their as their messiah,they say they are the 144000 in revelation,the Jehovah witnesses say the same nonsense ,the 144000 are Jews,the names of their tribes are mentioned
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Yeah and they even say the scapegoat is the devil!
@alsu4345
@alsu4345 Год назад
Pretentious people think they know. The KJV Holy Bible says, they are fools. Do not do surgical reading but study it. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide and give you wisdom. Surrender and cleanse your heart. Do fasting, let the Lord Jesus Christ give you understanding to learn his words for you. Do not just listen to other experts, open the KJV Holy Bible by yourself.,.,.,.
@stephenlong3801
@stephenlong3801 Год назад
Read Hebrews. It says strive to enter into Christ's rest not into a certain day. Jesus paid it all. Even sabbath keeping will still send you to hell. Without Christ in your heart that's where people are going. First john, says he that has the Son has life & he that has not the Son has no life in him. Only Jesus, not Ellen white. Turn your back on her & her teachings & Christ is who to turn to. You'll receive eternal life, You'll be sealed by His Spirit. Born again.
@returntoeden
@returntoeden Год назад
(Hebrews 4:9-10) [9] There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of Elohim. [10] For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as יהוה did from His.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@returntoeden Hebrews 4 speaking of Jesus himself notice the people that didn't enter in It Is by faith in Jesus Christ the people that it was first preached to did not enter in the people that was first preached to we're Sabbath keepers
@returntoeden
@returntoeden Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv If it was speaking of Yeshua/Jesus, aren't Christians suppose to follow Him anyway? (Matt 4:19; John 10:25-27; 1John 2:6; 2John 1:6)
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@returntoeden Christians do follow him and he's telling you he became your Sabbath that is why they're not Sabbath keepers
@returntoeden
@returntoeden Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Where does He say "I am the Sabbath" or "I will be your Sabbath" or "Sabbath will be on the day of resurrection or will be done away with" or "Worship on any day of the week as long as its not the 7th day"? Do you realize that Satan has counterfeits of every thing that is of YeHoVaH's, including His Holy Day?
@milcahpadillo9623
@milcahpadillo9623 Год назад
See: Galatians 1:6-10
@pauldorrington509
@pauldorrington509 6 месяцев назад
He sounds right! But there's one problem. He rejects catholism. Pope Damasus 1 presided over the Council of Rome in 382 AD over seeing Jerome. So why should any of them trust scripture? Does he not see the contradiction in his talk? The Catholics gave him the bible. And Jesus said hell would not over take the Church...
@mondlimchunu2169
@mondlimchunu2169 Год назад
That book told me about the reformation and Christ's atonement The BOOK desire of ages Has had a major impact in teaching me about Christ But of all books I've read: The great controversy has had the most impact. Let's consider their fruits Do they take care of the poor? Do they feed the hungry? Do they clothe the naked? I had no place to live after my spirit medium family cast me out and falsely accused me of gossiping and stealing but who received me? My adventist member who NEVER even knew me!! My spiritual grandmother just had a heart attack because she was concerned about the lives of the 59 poor people she takes care of including me. One of my biological grandmother's last words who was an adventist were hymn 133 Oh let me walk with THEE MY LORD As Enoch walked...with Thee
@melodykubiak5850
@melodykubiak5850 Год назад
I too was raised in Spiritualism. When I was 16 I asked for a Bible. When I got through 3/4 of the Bible I did not find what my father was teaching me so I figured it wasn't in the other 1/4 (it wasn't.) I went on a search for a church which taught out of the Bible without manmade traditions added to it. Soon I received Adventist literature and an invitation to a Revelation Seminar. God led me to the Adventist church, giving me the desires of my heart. It's been 40 years and I couldn't be happier.
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
Blessings to you as you study God's Word.
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
@@melodykubiak5850 Blessings to you as you study God's Word.
@melodykubiak5850
@melodykubiak5850 Год назад
@@williamstroud1455 Thank you, and His blessings to you as well. I'm finding it interesting how much yelling is going on from anti-Adventists while the Adventists are calmly explaining.
@edelgardmrah8452
@edelgardmrah8452 Год назад
11:44
@damionpascall3669
@damionpascall3669 Год назад
Jesus said "I did'nt come to do away with the commandments but to fulfill them .
@CalebOgembo-im3je
@CalebOgembo-im3je Год назад
Correct. But there is a real sabbath. Not Saturday Adventist. The sabbath is not Saturday or Sunday Friday.the sabbath is seventh day after six days of work. Ezakiel 46-1. Isaiah 66-22-23. Psalm 81-1-2.3. So we have new moon day, the first day of the month then 6 days of work then sabbath day.
@obey6330
@obey6330 Год назад
These new age pastors don’t ever mention that and it makes me wonder why the hell are they reading the Bible in the first place
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
All's you said is you don't understand Hebrews chapter 4. Jesus said he did fulfill it! At the cross!
@jenniferbarrette5444
@jenniferbarrette5444 Год назад
women are not to be pastors
@jerryjordan6731
@jerryjordan6731 Год назад
THANK YOU!!!!!! You have got the right view of Ellen G White. Thank you sir. She was more subtle than Joseph Smith & Charles T Russell combined!!!!! I hope you debate Doug Bachelor one day.
@earthlastdaybiblechannel
@earthlastdaybiblechannel Год назад
you ar ein babylon if you reject the 3 angels message then that the mark of the beast will fall on those who reject the truth
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@earthlastdaybiblechannel it's not written to you! it's written to the remnant the elect )..and that's not you!
@luly5915
@luly5915 Год назад
This a great teaching to debunk any false doctrine.
@MhlengiNdlovu-m9h
@MhlengiNdlovu-m9h 5 месяцев назад
There wasn't a single Bible teaching or scriptural reasoning done here, it's all this man's feelings. Listen again, it's all an appeal to prejudice.
@alanrichardson7244
@alanrichardson7244 8 месяцев назад
Yes it’s a cult.
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
And God said "Remember" perhaps also in the sense of, not that it has been forgotten but as an admonition to ensure that we take that time to rest and more importantly, to spend with Him. Remember the day. Don't get so busy, so caught up in your earthly life that you neglect the great honor of spending time with Him on His holy day, the 7th day Sabbath. I had something else but it's gone from me. Blessings to you as you study God's Word.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
The investigative judgment August 31l Ellen G white estates , sharing the vision, three-and-a-half paragraphs down in Jesus Christ as priests, in removing the sins from the sanctuary, confessed them on the scapegoat ,bearing the sins for his role was sent away into the land not inhabited. you got to remember both of these goats had to be (perfect).. and there was lots cast, who would be the one to be sacrificed ,the other one would be the goat that bears the sin's....( Jesus said he does both)!!!!! Ellen makes( one of those the devil .). She says christ...(will place the sins upon Satan.)!.... (making making him be the sin Bearer ) (making Jesus and the devil partners for your salvation)!!! so the devil becomes Jesus Christ!!!..( he loves it)! this is not 1st Peter 2:24 !this is who (she said you are serving ) ..it's exactly what the devil is going to do ,when he (incarnates the Antichrist at the end of time! )...and you're worried about him!
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Год назад
@@jimbob1644 OK, this is not your fault and it can be kind of hard to wrap your head around. I suggest praying for discernment before proceeding. Jesus bore our sins to the cross and paid, in full, for the sins of every human being. Will Jesus bear our sins forever? God forbid, and if you understand the sanctuary service you know that He transferred our sins to the sanctuary. As part of his punishment, the devil will be made to feel the pain and misery he caused by his rebellion. Is it not fitting that he should be made to suffer for all the trouble he caused? In the end he will be made to feel, or bear if you will, all the misery his rebellion caused. In that sense he will bear sin. Not that he will atone for it. Jesus has done that. Only He could do that. In the sanctuary service, on the day of atonement, one goat is sacrificed and His blood is carried and sprinkled within the most holy place. That goat is a "type" of Jesus whoseblood was shed for our sins. The other goat, or type of the devil, has the peoples sins symbolically transferred to it and is bannished to the wilderness, a symbol of hell. A fitting end for him wouldn't you say? Blessings to you as you study God's Word.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@williamstroud1455 how long does it going to take you to understand that 1844 never happened... And what happened there according to you destroys the cross! because everything you're saying is what Jesus did at the cross!. He said it's finished!! The levitical law was done!!!! Hebrews chapter 7 read it.! Verse 11 12 13 and 14. It's not about the law! He changed it!. he's from the tribe of Judah) he's not practicing levite law! what's going on there is a levite thing! And you're saying it wasn't finished! You're blaspheming what he did at the cross!. And you're saying it wasn't finished at the cross..((( Isaiah 45: 25) (If they're blotted out and they're remembered no more)!!!...( what's sin is going to be placed on your demonic devil)!!! (It's not written in the old or new!.) That Ellen creates it...( apparently that's not important to you. )!You're destroying every scripture texts describing what Jesus did to fit your narrative!
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@williamstroud1455 you're just blaspheming what Jesus did at the cross! (when he said it's finished !)apparently you don't know he blots out your sins! and he remembers them no more!( Isaiah 45: 25.) He did that he immediately after he paid the penalty !! ( You're saying your sins are still remembered )!!!and they're going to be with the devil)!!! So it's not finished that's why you're saying that!. That's demonic!!! that's not Jesus Christ ..that's is not the 1st Peter 2:24 .you don't have salvation. and you don't have Jesus !I do understand! About the Old testament sanctuary. That's just not happening in heaven! but he said it's finished he's from the tribe of Judah! not from the law Hebrews 7..( your Jesus is a levite Jesus )!there is no such thing! Going from the outer Court to the inner Court. And saying it's still not finished at the cross. you see I know the prophecy of Daniel 8 if you knew it and believed the truth of the Bible .(you know you're in a cult!). Daniel 8 is about the Antichrist at the end of time! The functioning time is 2300 days!
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
@@williamstroud1455 they're blocking my response to you I'll try again. Isaiah 43:25. When that happened right after the cross. What sins are you talkin about!???? All's you're saying is you're not forgiven! That's the difference between Christians and people from SDA. Jesus said if you believe Him. Like Abraham. you're saved! present past and future! he knows what you're going to do. You're saying no that's not true right. You've got a levite Jesus) read Hebrews chapter 7 that's not what it's about! You're blaspheming Jesus! I do know the levitical law! The changing of the law ,Jesus tells you in Hebrews 7! He's from the tribe of Judah! not about the law! he said it's finished at the cross! You're saying the cross has nothing to do with you! Based on 1st Peter 2:24 and Isaiah!
@carlosv3273
@carlosv3273 Год назад
This man may be sincere with his faith and understanding of scripture as many of us are. But Eve was also sincere when she approached Adam with the forbidden fruit. Sincerity has its place in our relationship with God, but its not what saves us. It is the Word of God. He mentioned about a book in the mail that did not have SDA on it, implying that they are being deceptive, but why would they put the name of their church on it, when you have people like this men making people prejudiced against them? I just finished reading about the leper Jesus healed in Mark 1:43-45. Jesus, "having sternly warned him," said, "See that you speak nothing to anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest, and offer for your cleansing what Moses commanded, for a testimony to them." Why did Jesus say this to him? Mark tells us. "But having gone out, he began to proclaim much and to spread abroad the matter, so that He was no longer able to enter openly into the city, but He was out in solitary places." The Jewish leaders always hindered the work of Christ and His disciples, and Jesus had to warn the cleansed leper to not tell anyone that Jesus healed him so that these prejudiced leaders don't hinder his work. This man in this video is also hindering the work of the SDA church. I understand the concern he has, but he is mistaken about this church, just like the Jews are still mistaken about Christianity. Nothing new under the sun.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
But if SDA doesn't have the right Jesus!!! you want me to prove it???? Another words the 1844 Jesus the Helen White Jesus saves no one!!!!!.. if that's your Jesus ..you're not saved.. you can grandstand all you want. you and the Pope.
@shibahtash4700
@shibahtash4700 Год назад
SDA failed their trail when the prophecy of jesus coming in 1944 failed don't forget what deu 18 :22 says about such failed prophecies
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@shibahtash4700 amen sister !but if you don't change that 1944 to 1844 they will attack you! 😃but even then they will attack you!
@shibahtash4700
@shibahtash4700 Год назад
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv it was a typing error but it won't change the fact why people refer SDA prophets as false
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@shibahtash4700 absolutely right I've studied this study this cult from core. root. Because one of my friends got caught up in this cult.. at this point he has no salvation nor does he know a thing about prophecy ..anymore .because this is what I've done all my life. is study prophecy. which is been 50 years. the Cornerstone of their theology comes from the core of what I've studied .which is the Book of Daniel .and if you don't understand Daniel 8 you can't understand any Prophecy in the Bible! and their false prophet destroyed it! so they have no prophecy they have no truth and they have no Jesus! because Daniel 8 (she made a levite Jesus) going from the outer Court to the inner Court..( parently that Jesus didn't say it's finished at the cross )..they're taught to teach that from their ministers .and I have listened to some of the great ones. .the devil has got the whole group in ones place.. and he's not releasing hardly any of them!
@Sirder
@Sirder Год назад
What’s the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant. NOTHING IS DIFFERENT EXCEPT WHERE GOD WROT THEM. PERIOD.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
There's a big difference.... Ellen in the investigative judgment ..Maranatha. page 251. third paragraph lines seven and eight..( makes the devil be Jesus Christ being a part of the atonement)!!! of Leviticus 16:10 ).. destroying Jesus Christ himself ..( attributing to the devil what the Holy Spirit ,Jesus Christ does)!!!![[ which is blaspheming the holy spirit ]]]Matthew 12: 31 + 32[[ she says that's your Jesus!!!]]
@beatriztateperez7003
@beatriztateperez7003 Год назад
You are lieing they read from the Bible . You are unfaithful. You are dead wrong sabbath is a holy day not Sunday that came from people who worshiped the sun .
@janetnyamongo
@janetnyamongo Год назад
Listen with an open mind
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Who is your Jesus ??is your Jesus The Ellen White Jesus?
@davidrosen3736
@davidrosen3736 Год назад
Surely it's a holy day! And to be kept by the Jewish only! What do you have to do with the Jewish sabbath? Its a reminder of the creation and of God bringing the Jewish out of Agypt! You are not ment and addressed at all. I can tell you this from a jewish perspective, it hilarious that you as gentiles mean to keep our Sign of covenant with God. You and me as a jewish christian have got a new covenant with the baptism as new sign of covenant!
@robbiebob6267
@robbiebob6267 Год назад
quote....You are lieing they read from the bible. You Are unfaithful . So.... The bible is all wrong & EGW writing's is all right!!!!?!!!!
@robbiebob6267
@robbiebob6267 Год назад
@@janetnyamongo well.... I have listened.... And I will say Christ is in my heart not EGW!
@marksanagustin8732
@marksanagustin8732 Год назад
Thank you for this comparison i wish every adventist would take the time to watch this
@paulinekasaija6396
@paulinekasaija6396 3 месяца назад
Cult is a weapon man use to underestimate others. Who are we to judge. James 1. 27.
@paulinekasaija6396
@paulinekasaija6396 2 месяца назад
Only God will be the Judge. He will pierce through to man's heart, and the truth will come out. Great Men allowed God to guide them. Amen
@peregrino9154
@peregrino9154 Год назад
Yes, it’s a cult.
@MD-vz9ec
@MD-vz9ec Год назад
The true rest, is the baptism of the Holy Ghost, thats the rest Jesus Gave the Aposltes on the day of Pentecost. Hebrews 4:8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. (Jesus said: Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.:-Matthew 11:28. Jesus did say he would give them rest, but he did not give them it on that day. If he did, then he would not have afterward spoken of another day… and, after his resurrection, he said: Luke 24:49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father [the Holy Spirit] upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. Now here is that other day - Acts 2:1-4 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues [other languages], as the Spirit gave them utterance [as the Holy Spirit gave them to utter]. This was the day!... the day that the apostles entered into his rest, and… they became a part of his body… Now if this wasn’t true, then there would not have been a precept for it. - Isaiah 28:10-12 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering lips and another tongue [other languages] will he [Jesus, the Holy Ghost] speak to this people. To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. They would not hear… some will not hear, even though every word is upon the word… Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. Even though they know it’s the truth… 'For if Jesus had given them rest, then he would not have afterward spoken of another day'… 'Again, he limiteth a certain day'… 'And when the day of Pentecost was fully come'… 'this is the refreshing'… Isaiah 28:12 …This is the rest… 'yet they would not hear'.
@wendiwestenburg6052
@wendiwestenburg6052 Год назад
I found both Mormon and 7 day cuts teach members self righoutsness and self! Exaltation! What was Satan about? Pride! Thought he was self rightouseand wanted to exalt him Self!!! Above Gods throne
@wendiwestenburg6052
@wendiwestenburg6052 Год назад
No need for Jesus atonement in those cults
@daydreamerz
@daydreamerz Год назад
Do seminaries only use the Bible for instruction, or do they use the works of many Christian authors? I looked up his sources about SDA beliefs and Pastor Tim left out 9 of the 10 Denials, which paints a much less nefarious picture than he does.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Ellen White in the investigative judgment, maranatha page 251. Says the devil is the sin Bearer )making Jesus be the the devil)!!!! and the sins are never blotted i out!!!! there placed on the back of the devil!. Destroying Isaiah verse 43 verse 25. And 1st Peter 2:24. Breaking the first first commandment because that's not God! They have nothing!
@justrosy5
@justrosy5 Год назад
Mistake No. 1 is asking a religious person if you should join a religion. People, you have brains. Think for yourselves, and no, that's not a sin - it's called being mentally healthy.
@aljoforeveryoungatheart7934
How interesting that Satan's spirit mislead pastors in bashing other (denominations) followers of Christ. Love like the Father and take the example of Christ. Love you Brother in Christ but stop bashing but do your home work and whatever you proclaim put it on a screen visual to the audience.
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
So you're saying the truth and what Holy Spirit actually does is always speaks the truth. If you a tribute to the Devil with what Jesus Christ (an the Holy Spirit are actually saying Matthew 12: 31 and 32!)
@gregben7657
@gregben7657 Год назад
I concur with you 100 %. This is what exactly happen here in Malawi.
@alsu4345
@alsu4345 Год назад
2023. Do not point a finger. Do not reason out in not a kind words on this platform. Study the KJV Holy Bible. Are you afraid of the truth? Truth hurts. So study.,.,
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
I don't think anybody has a clue of what you're trying to say.. what's 2023 got to do with anything.?
@paulmcgraw9284
@paulmcgraw9284 Год назад
It's ridiculous. The SDA is NOT a cult. I've been a member for 6 years now and have absolutely NO REGRETS.
@sourmilkministries9445
@sourmilkministries9445 Год назад
I'm a Sabbath keeper, but not SDA. But, even so, I'd rather be the worst SDA, than to be "Pastor Tim". Nonetheless, one of my few criticisms of your church, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that, generally speaking, they are not free to deviate from the established teachings of EGW. Also, there appears to be too much emphasis on works playing a role in obtaining and/or maintaining one's salvation. And, I'm still confused about "investigative judgement"?
@jimbob1644
@jimbob1644 Год назад
Who is the second goat of Leviticus 16?
@reidveryan9414
@reidveryan9414 Год назад
"It is finished" -Jesus the Messiah, circa 30 A.D. Hallelujah!
@earthlastdaybiblechannel
@earthlastdaybiblechannel Год назад
the first part is finishes now bible says Jesus keeos working for cleansing of the sanctuary Gabriel says so in DA 8 14
@treefellonya
@treefellonya Год назад
@@earthlastdaybiblechannel And the Book of Hebrews says he is presently our High Priest, yet these people think its "finished" SMH. I thought he was finished _before calvary_ ? "I have glorified thee on the earth: I have _finished_ the work which thou gavest me to do." (John 17:4, KJV)
@rickhuntling7338
@rickhuntling7338 Год назад
@@earthlastdaybiblechannel the Maccabees cleansed the temple on Dec. 9th 164 bc, after 2300 evenings and mornings starting on Aug. 21, 174 ad. Antiochus fulfilled the prophecy 2100 years ago. There is no such thing as a Investigative Judgement, to say there is is a false Gospel and a lie. What does that make you? Gal. 1:8.
@ChapterAdans
@ChapterAdans 6 месяцев назад
Seventh day Adventist is not a cult we believe holy bible
@ernst_junger
@ernst_junger Год назад
I thank God for freeing me from the legalistic, proud mindset of the SDA church
@treefellonya
@treefellonya Год назад
There are often challenges with legalism, it is true. However, for those truly seeking God it happens- in every denomination. Every Christian struggles with it at some point - if they are truly converted. Hopefully we grow and realize that we cannot do it without Christ - but that does not mean holiness is not attainable. Oh, and BTW - It isn't pride, its called confidence. We know we have the whole truth. This is what it means to have a school master. The Law shuts us in, makes us a slave, realizing our sin. We struggle to overcome and realize, as Paul; "Who can deliver me from this Body of Death?" - I thank God through Jesus Christ... The initial struggle is legalism. However - the Bible says the Law is Holy and Just and Good. And again "Shall we sin that grace shall abound? God Forbid! - Jesus liberates us from enslavement of breaking His Law, to obeying it. That is not legalism, but Grace.
@s_hrndz0119
@s_hrndz0119 Год назад
@@treefellonyaShow us where the Law commands us to be vegetarians.
@s_hrndz0119
@s_hrndz0119 Год назад
@@johnwheeler9186 Ellen White commanded Veganism. She claimed it was evil to eat meat and that it made you less holy and less spiritual
@treefellonya
@treefellonya Год назад
@@johnwheeler9186 But the Word does tell us to take care of our bodies, and in present day earth, there is enough evidence in the Scientific community showing that pig flesh and other forms of meat shorten life span - something Ellen G. White said was a problem even back in the late 1800s. And Leviticus. Wasn't even ceremonial laws back then. Those were health laws. "Oh but the health laws were for the Jews" they'll say, as if good health was pronounced just for the Jews.. SMH.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@johnwheeler9186 yeah but is your Jesus the Jesus that it described in the investigative judgment in the third paragraph line 7 and 8 The Ellen says is the devil!
@efaleafine
@efaleafine Год назад
I am a member of the SDA Bible-loving Church "Cult." Our doctrines are wonderful. All solid Bible-based doctrines. You can easily find it online. A lot of good people in the church. Also a lot of hypocrites. Sad but true. But hey, people are free to choose
@2sarahloves
@2sarahloves Год назад
Amen!! It is hard to not try to show these people how they are wrong, but we are not to argue with demons.
@dustyrose853
@dustyrose853 Год назад
I used to say the same things you are saying. Look into the trinity, and you will find the first false doctrine of many. No organized religion has the truth. "Come out of her my people," is a plea for people to leave the lies of organized religion and follow Jesus, the son of God. Not God the Son. I sincerely pray you consider what I am saying. May God bless you.
@2sarahloves
@2sarahloves Год назад
@@dustyrose853 Bible study works best when discussed with others. Doing it alone can open a person to self interpretation and very had things have come of this.
@dustyrose853
@dustyrose853 Год назад
@2sarahloves I convene with others and Jesus. There are many other people who join together outside of the organized religions. I didn't say anything about people having to secluded themselves. In my experience, when people don't want to hear God's truth, they push those people sharing it away from them. Essentially, shunning them even if they have worshipped together for years.
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv
@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Год назад
@@dustyrose853 so what truth do you have that nobody else has!?
@Shelter93
@Shelter93 Год назад
You need to watch this but yes it is a Cult!
@qanaqa33174
@qanaqa33174 Год назад
If you're not firmly grounded by the Bible, or only learn to read verses instead of whole passage... It is much easier for you to be manipulated by such doctrines as the sda. The Bible stands on it's own and can be proven by itself. We can interpret how we understand what we read but never change the context of what a chapter or book is about. Just a thought if it make sense. Christ and only Christ is our Savior... The Gospels of Matthew, Make, Luke and John said so and Paul just made it all clear for us christians who are NOT JEWS about Christ Gospel (the everlasting Gospel). Not the 3 angels messages Not a prophet who made false prophecies Not a preacher or an angel or anyone who can not be proven by the Living Word of our Savior Christ (the BIBLE). Blessings to you all And may we all find salvation in CHRIST the anointed son of God. Amen.
@jimcovell1067
@jimcovell1067 Год назад
Thanks Pastor Tim for making it clear even though I already knew.
@jimcovell1067
@jimcovell1067 Год назад
What makes me sad when they refer to Ellen like she's Jesus himself. Why not rewrite the Bible & replace Jesus name with Ellen.
@warlyfresh
@warlyfresh Год назад
I don't know where you get that from, but ok. 🤷🏾‍♂️
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