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SEVIKA: 3 Theories | ARCANE Character Analysis 

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Does Sevika have an arc? What role does she play in Arcane’s plot? In its themes? This character stays in the background and singlehandedly props up not just the plot, but one of Arcane’s protagonists as well, as no other character could (or would willingly choose to) do. This is a character who embodies the inferiority we see in the Undercity in a radically different form than characters like Vi, Jinx, Silco, or Viktor. What she embraces about that inferiority no one else does, and it’s her source of strength and her animosity towards characters like Vi and Jinx. All of this comes to a head in the finale episode in her epic fight with Vi.
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@therealtaydev
@therealtaydev 2 года назад
YES! Sevika never betrayed Vander because she was always clear about her goals and her stance for the cause. I like that you mentioned Vander betrayed the Undercity because while we understand his decision and it’s justified, it is also true. Stagnation isn’t what the people wanted, they wanted to fight. Thank you for putting it out there. Now people can stop calling Sevika a traitor maybe lol. But anyway I also see how Vi would see her that way due to her love for Vander, her family, but in the end both Vi and Sevika wanted to fight the enforcers. It’s sad since they could have been a team.
@cybercriminal3110
@cybercriminal3110 2 года назад
She gave him away.
@NoirRaven
@NoirRaven 2 года назад
She can be both a traitor and a loyalist, but she's a pretty shitty loyalist if this is her actual motivation. All it takes is one show of weakness and you're done in her eyes, which makes her not killing Silco at the end make even less sense but we can chalk it up to temporary plot armor.
@obara7366
@obara7366 2 года назад
@@NoirRaven Vander did not have one show of weakness. The gap between the opening scene and the inciting incident of the show are yearsss apart. Sevika gave Vander years for him to prove himself to the city, but he only stagnated. She is not "one moment of weakness" kind of person. She gives ample chances adn will tell you to your face that you're on thin ice with her. She did so to Vander at least once in the show, and we can guess that she did so over the years because she went from respecting him to resenting him. So, with all due respect, your last point is utterly wrong. You missed the mark.
@NoirRaven
@NoirRaven 2 года назад
@@obara7366 but she should've known why he was stagnating. As that one background character said, he's doing it to protect his kids, like it's a fault? He saw first hand what his actions did to Vi and Powder's parents. I bet he was directly responsible for it, given their proximity to one another and he couldn't live with it, with what he did. We don't know if his betrayal of Silco happened before or after the rebellion but, either way, I can see all of that weighing on his psyche and killing his need to rebel. But at the same time, he has a village to look after essentially and he does for at least 10 years before Sevika decides enough is enough, even though how Vander ran things kept everyone safe. And let's assume she did know why and this vid was her motivation for betraying Vander: why not turn on Silco the moment he starts exhibiting the same behavior with Jinx? I know he explained it but it still doesn't make sense. Jinx is constantly sabotaging the plan, whether that be Silco's plan or Sevika's expectations of war. Why not be more direct? Why not take Silco's head? How was Silco more of a leader than Vander?
@mr.pickle6487
@mr.pickle6487 2 года назад
@@NoirRaven With Silco it's slightly different, because while yes, Silco wants to protect Jinx, he's also turning her into a weapon against Piltover as we see throughout the show. That's why Sevika's fine with it. Also, there's the question of who she would go to other than Silco. Silco was the only leader that we see in the show (apart from maybe Renni but that's late in the show) who is willing to attack Piltover. As for protecting his kids? She does know. But to her, that doesn't matter, all it means is that Vander isn't going to be the leader that goes against Piltover. So she switches sides to the one that will. If that means killing Vander later, so be it. Her ideology is all about that as Schnee explains. She doesn't have a problem with people protecting their kids, as long as they also go against Piltover.
@NathanFarkas
@NathanFarkas 2 года назад
There is also another thing Sevika is, in my opinion. She represents the quintessetial Zaun. She is a brute of a warrior, she was molded by her environment to be tough like granite, she is so tough she smokes when a lot cann't breath, she uses Shimmer to boost her strength, she, like most of Zaun, is a melee fighter and uses blades rather than guns. She is the ultimate Zaun commoner, the person who represents not just the cog of the machine of Zaun, but the actual machine itself. The masses of Zaun represented by a single person, who defied the peaceful ways of Vander, even though he was protecting them, and embraced the cruelty of Silco, even though the left them mangled and addicted to shimmer. Sevika is the Zaun Vander betrayed and Silco let florish. That's also why the jealosy and resentment towards Jinx. Jinx is the Zaun Silco wants. Jinx is the worst of both worlds. Zaun doesn't use guns, Piltover does, Jinx does. Zaun uses shimmer, Piltover uses hextech, Jinx finishes the story with both.
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 года назад
Very well said! Really like the characterization of being the machine rather than the cog
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 года назад
I think there's something to be said for every zaun and piltover character embodying or striving to embody their own personal ideal of their city. Might be worth its own video at some point.
@NathanFarkas
@NathanFarkas 2 года назад
Which DOES turn the whole fight into a revenge fight in Vander's name. After all, Zaun betrayed him and Vi gets to avenge him. Which also explains why Vander made an appearance here of all places.
@oblivi0nzer0
@oblivi0nzer0 2 года назад
Brilliant analysis
@erikalexandersson7998
@erikalexandersson7998 2 года назад
@@NathanFarkas yeah like he mentioned in the video a bunch that Vi was the embodiment of doing everything for your family, and she then goes to Sevika to prove that that ideology still has a place in this world
@ludovicartu4239
@ludovicartu4239 2 года назад
Yes the fight with Sevika is useless but I think it's on purpose. After Vi part ways with Jayce who tell her she will not make it alone, Vi does the only thing she knows to do : punch people in the face. She just has no plan and no better idea of what to do to than to barge in the antagonist headquarter. In fact, in most of movies or videogames it would work, the hero beats the bad guys, end of story. For me, the fact it's pointless makes the scene better. It's like Sky's death, lot of people said it didnt have impact because we are not attached to the character, I felt the opposite : what a waste her death was made it even more impactful. It perfectly put us in the shoes of Victor who realize at that moment that he doesn't know anything about her.
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 года назад
I hear, good point! I think I'd feel similarly if it felt like there was a point leading up to the fight and during it, and then we realized only at the end there wasn't. Just some fake hook to draw us into the action a bit more
@grimm516
@grimm516 2 года назад
Ok so i would have to rewatch that ep again but in think vi gose to the last drop to cut the head off the snake and take out silco I bet vi would have smashed the door to his office but before that happened jinx happened or something like that
@grimm516
@grimm516 2 года назад
Oh plus I also think it's also a moment for the gamers, the reason i think that is through the show vi did not have the atlas gauntlets and only gets one fight against the cem-tanks not enough time to see vis abilities the bubble shield that vi did, its called Blast Shield her passive from the games
@kadalix
@kadalix 2 года назад
fantastic point! and it totally fits with the experimentation of having underdeveloped / void ideas or characters that is seen in Arcane (namely how they handled Marcus being the anti-Caitlyn as schnee so fabulously put it) as for the scene itself, they could've made it a tiny bit more obvious about her mindset, maybe a line or two of her wanting to "beat the bad guy" (for example, Vi asking "Where is he?" to Sevika and having Sevika say nothing but smirk in response and then lead to the fight) what do you think?
@Birthday888
@Birthday888 2 года назад
@@kadalix I think her motivation was perfectly clear from the moment she offered her cooperation with Jayce. At least for me, it was. And while Jayce's motivation goes from wanting to stop Silco, to stopping the war the moment he sees it's potential cost, Vi remains resolute in her original goal. Heck, the entire reason Silco might've not been at the last drop could've been because Jayce offered to negotiate.
@mathies3598
@mathies3598 2 года назад
Sevika isn't loyal to a person, she's loyal to the cause. It's why she leaves Vander, because Vander isn't fighting for her cause anymore. It's why when Silco asked if she was tempted, she says "not for a worm like him, but he won't be the last." She realizes Silco isn't the best leader for the undercity. She would absolutely turn on him if she found someone convincing enough to be a better kingpin. But she hasn't, so for now Silco is the best ally for her cause.
@Cantthinkofname-rp3iw
@Cantthinkofname-rp3iw 2 года назад
That's exactly what he said
@afanas4635
@afanas4635 2 года назад
Man copy and pasted the video lol
@Nafysatnaf
@Nafysatnaf 2 года назад
@@afanas4635 Ain't nothing wrong with recapping the lecture in your own words to make sure you got it down the right way. The internet isn't always about winning or losing yo
@adie9314
@adie9314 2 года назад
Sevika teaming up with Ekko 😶😶😶
@juicebox7372
@juicebox7372 2 года назад
@@Nafysatnaf They didn't do it in their own words though that was literally a copy and paste.
@DeathChaan
@DeathChaan 2 года назад
Strangely, in most other stories Sevika would be the hero, as a character who fights for the indipendence of the oppressed, selflessly (Because she extents the replacability of humans to her own person as well, risking her life for someone she just run over to).
@ArukiTsukaru
@ArukiTsukaru 2 года назад
That's so true!
@th3voice
@th3voice 2 года назад
Very much so. Her henching career seems predicated upon finding someone she thinks can get the job done and then running interference against anything that gets in the way of their success. I see an inferiority complex in her, like in Jinx, but she has dealt with it by building a base confidence that while she may not be cut out to carry the cause to its conclusion, she can pave the way and break apart any annoying little roadblock or diversion for the one she thinks will get it done. It's commendable of her given how the setting is crawling with idiots with no plan, tilting at every windmill they can find... In this as well as several other ways, Sevika is better and awesomer than Vi... I imagine someone asking the two of them why they fight. Sevika likely knows exactly why she fights at any given time and against any given opponent... Vi strikes me as mostly fighting "because I didn't have any other ideas" or "I don't know why".
@DeathChaan
@DeathChaan 2 года назад
@@th3voice I'm not sure, if Vi wouldn't have an answer, but I agree, she acts "younger", in the sense, that she's hot headed and doesn't put much thought into things, before rushing into battle. Sevika seems to me like someone, who knows exactly what she's doing. Which, yes, is one of the reasons why she's awesome XD (contrasted to why I find Jayce so frustrating to watch).
@genthomas5628
@genthomas5628 2 года назад
@@DeathChaan I mean it makes sense that Vi would act "younger" considering she's anywhere between 22-24 in acts II & III. Sevika, on the other hand, is in her late 30s or early 40s. While they both have grown up in the undercity, Sevika sees the undercity more like Silco and Vander than Vi, Jinx, and Ekko.
@ludouble9299
@ludouble9299 2 года назад
Not really. In any story at all. On surface Sevika and Silco are your typical want to do good but took it to far villains. The goal justify the me anda kind of character. In no story Sevika would be the hero. At best an Anti hero.
@mitsunitaiko1742
@mitsunitaiko1742 2 года назад
I think it was made in purpose that VI and Sevika's fight had no stakes. It links well to the "So now that I've beaten Sevika, what changed? Absolutely nothing". They were fighting even though they knew they would accomplish nothing
@lakshaykochhar6799
@lakshaykochhar6799 2 года назад
Well, she is Silco's right-hand henchman, so that'd be pretty big blow to him and not to mention that she's at Last Drop, she is at Silco's base, so I imagine her plan was to go directly to the source of her problems.
@renshank6736
@renshank6736 Год назад
I think there *are* stakes, but it's not the stakes Vi tells herself or the ones she told Jinx. That's why Jinx doesn't even bother to let Vi figure out that Silco isn't upstairs. Just "Bravo, Sis", out. The continuation of this in Jinx's head (in my head canon at least): "You didn't even come to get me when you came back. What, are you looking for your girlfriend (because she actually understands that it's romantic at this point) because I took her? You're not here for me. Again. And you can't spin it because I'm looking right at what you're doing, and it's not for me." Or something along those lines.
@craig5322
@craig5322 2 года назад
at 0:53 I think what you're missing is how this scene relates to Vi's defining character trait: she tries to solve all her problems by rushing in to fight. Vander warned her in the beginning that this would not solve her problems and only hurt the people she cared about, but even here at the end of the story, she has not learned the lesson. How did she deal with the problem of Silco and Jinx? She rushed in to fight. She literally walked in their front door with no plan except fighting. She fights Sevika and wins, but now what? This doesn't solve anything. And what happens immediately after? Jinx knocks her out, and she wakes up in Jinx's tea party. Vi has the arc of a tragic hero. She never learns the lesson that Vander learned: fighting can't solve all your problems and you will lose the people you care about.
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 года назад
Good point, and I think you're absolutely right. But at the same time, we've already seen the story try to teach Vi this lesson (ep1 deckard fight they lose the loot anyway, ep3 vs silco's goons and also hitting powder, ep5 vs sevika). Here the story must follow that same theme, but I'm looking for something more, both to avoid the redundancy and because its the finale.
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 2 года назад
Yeah I pointed this out in one of my commentaries: If only Vi snooped around for a bit longer she would've caught the word that Sevika and Jinx don't get along and that Sevika views her as a liability. Then she could've tried diplomacy(bribery) on Sevika to get rid of that liability: "We'll leave and never come back."
@AxleBoost
@AxleBoost 2 года назад
@@schnee1 I addressed this in my comment. Not sure how to point you to it but I think it will help you see that the whole arc was Vi trying to take in Vander’s words, apply this lesson, and failing. So she gives up in the end and goes back to her roots since she’s alone with no options.
@brennakingsbury9657
@brennakingsbury9657 2 года назад
Well said! I think it's pretty realistic that Vi didn't learn this lesson yet. It's a difficult lesson to expect a teen/young adult to learn in prison, and she's been out all of 4 days by the time this second fight with Sevika happens. I think her actually talking about her feelings with Caitlyn was promising character development, but it's going to take her more than 4 days to really get there. I'm very invested in seeing where things will ultimately go with her and Jinx. On the one hand, Vi may very well feel like she tried talking to Jinx, and even talked Caitlyn out of harming Jinx, and that ended up with Jinx nuking the Council, so talking is overrated. On the other hand, given that hitting Powder and never being able to correct that mistake is the biggest regret of Vi's life, defeating Jinx by beating the snot out of her feels unlikely (that's not to say Vi won't try, that just can't be the true resolution to the story). And if speculation that Vander will be back as Warwick is correct, then my speculation on that speculation is that he will feel a sense of kinship with Jinx because they are both Singed's reanimated monsters, and Vi won't understand and will feel even more helpless and betrayed. I think S2 is going to be an even rougher ride for Vi, and I won't be surprised if Vander's advice about holding onto her good heart and not letting life break her will be tested to the limits, but I have some hope that she will end up in a better place by the end of the series.
@PoisonFlower765
@PoisonFlower765 Год назад
@@schnee1 The difference is that this time she wins without significant loss, a near perfect victory. She wins aganst Deckard but Powder loses the stuff. She wins against Silco's gang, but she loses her family. She doesn't win against Sevika in episode 5 AT ALL, she was saved last second by Caitlyn. All of these come with a huge asterisk to her victory, or her even losing. All of those fights try and fail to teach her that *fighting* won't do anything, but her final fight against Sevika tries (and might succeed in, we have to wait for season 2) to teach her that even if she does everything right, doesn't lose a thing at all, and wins with flying colors, nothing happens **still.** That's the difference.
@myth86715
@myth86715 2 года назад
Huh, interesting. my interpretation is very different. For me Vi's scream after she beats Sevika reflects the scream she lets out the moment Vander died. Because yes, Silco is the boss and the brains of the whole thing. But Silco is also a physically weak man, only capable of stabbing Vander in the back. In Vi's mind, the reason Silco was able to overthrow Vander was because people abandoned Vander and sided with Silco. And the one that initiated that change was Sevika. So, in a way, by beating Sevika, she was able to avenge Vander's death. Especially since Vi isn't the type of person that kills. Or, to use chess as an example, Silco maybe be the king, but Sevika is the queen, the strongest piece on the board. As is Vi, on the opposite side. And the moment Vi defeated Sevika, it was only a matter of time before Silco fell as well. But apart from all that, I don't see the second fight as irrelevant. Yes, there are no stakes, but it's so symbolic. Hextech versus Shimmer, Piltover versus Zaun, and even the Lanes versus Zaun
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 года назад
i hear it, well said!
@mathies3598
@mathies3598 2 года назад
Vi doesn't fight for piltover though, if anything Piltover (jayce) abandoned the cause and tried the diplomatic approach. At this point Vi is acting on her own accord. Vander's Zaun vs Silco's Zaun.
@ImagineStory-rw5ks
@ImagineStory-rw5ks 2 года назад
@@mathies3598 Well spoiler… Vi actually goes on to become an enforcer. So although it seems like it holds no meaning now, it might in the future. Also her fight with Jinx that would eventually can also represent the same and most important Zaun vs Piltover narrative that Arcane have always been setting up.
@darthcygnus7692
@darthcygnus7692 2 года назад
Well said. People who think Vi is a retarded that just punch doesn't understand nothing. She is following the plan she offered to jayce: get Sevika and Silco out of the equation and the shimmer empire falls. Jayce cowardly backed down so Vi keeps following her plan alone, and succeeded. Lot of people doesn't realize that Vi survived nine years of prison, and you can't survive that long just punching. She has learned Vander's lesson long time ago: she is the only one who really fucked Silco's using Jayce and the enforcers in doing actually their fucking work for once in their useless lives and she's just out of jail for a couple of days. Sevika on the other hand is really a retarded traitor: Silco made a lot of promise that wer actual lies, he doesn't give a fuck about the well-being of the Undercity, cares only for his money and power: in nine years he did nothing to made the undergorund a better place, he did all the opposite making it worse. Sevika i so blind that keeps following him like a lapdog, doing all the work. She could have literally killed Silco and taken his place, but never did because she is really a mindless goon. When the barons offered her more power and control she refused, again like a mindless goon.
@haunted-but-holy
@haunted-but-holy 2 года назад
@@ImagineStory-rw5ks in the game?
@AxleBoost
@AxleBoost 2 года назад
Sevika is a personification of “the show must go on.”
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 2 года назад
Indeed!
@susiem.2068
@susiem.2068 2 года назад
I watched Bojack Horseman so much, my stomach just drops when I read this sentence.
@MasterMultitaskerZed
@MasterMultitaskerZed Год назад
Looll yeh
@jk844100
@jk844100 2 года назад
I don’t know how much of a role it would play in Sevika’s “loyalty” to Silco but after she saved him and had her arm blown off he didn’t leave her to die, you see his henchmen carrying her at the end of episode 3. It would have been easy for Silco to see her on the ground missing an arm and say “oh well, lost cause” but he took the effort to save her, so maybe that has something to play in her choice to not betray Silco.
@Anergyne
@Anergyne 2 года назад
Loyalty is a two-way street for people like Sevika. She's loyal to you so long as that loyalty is reciprocated. It was, at first, when Silco saved her and gave her a new arm, but by the time Act 2 and 3 roll around, he's running out of banked credit and had better do something else to rekindle that loyalty or she's walking.
@kiwifit620
@kiwifit620 2 года назад
12:12 I adore the way this moment was edited, it made just so much more powerful going from a fight scene to an emotional scene of vulnerability
@rehnumasharmin2052
@rehnumasharmin2052 2 года назад
The transition there was so smooth :0
@feduckil9238
@feduckil9238 2 года назад
Interestingly enough, Sevika does actually fight for change. The status quo in the world of Arcane is different from status quo in the events of the show itself. Sevika wants the status quo of Piltover’s oppression to end. The status quo she is fighting for is how this change should be implemented - through violence.
@Simpson17866
@Simpson17866 2 года назад
I actually just wrote a thing about how that makes my analysis of her Magic The Gathering colors more complicated than I'd thought :) I'd pegged her as Blue first because she wants to improve Zaun's position and because she wants to improve whoever's in charge of the plan to improve Zaun's position, but I hadn't realized how much Green and/or White were there in her desire not to change the plan itself.
@feduckil9238
@feduckil9238 2 года назад
@@Simpson17866 Blue for sure. But shouldn’t there be Black in her colours because of the “ends justify the means” philosophy? Her creature type would probably be rouge, and those are also usually in Dimir colours. Also, I’m not sure how you’re getting Green and White either. Green is about tradition, and White is about order. Neither of which sit well with a rebellion, which is more of a Red thing. But I wouldn’t push Sevika into Grixis exactly because of her unwillingness to change the plan. The real question though is: what do you think her card text would say?
@Simpson17866
@Simpson17866 2 года назад
@@feduckil9238 "shouldn’t there be Black" Not really. As the video said, she has no ego - nothing she does is for personal benefit. Black is about helping yourself, not about hurting others. "Green is about tradition" And in this case, the tradition she believes in is "Zaun and Piltover are enemies, and this is how the fight should go." "White is about order. Neither of which sit well with a rebellion" That depends on how and why you're rebelling ;)
@feduckil9238
@feduckil9238 2 года назад
@@Simpson17866 I would argue that trying to shape the world around you to match your beliefs can be considered as acting out of personal benefit. And the way Sevika goes about it is also definitely Black. I say that with an understanding that Black is not about being evil or hurting others. But achieving one’s goal at absolutely any cost is very much Black. As for her dedication to keeping Piltover and Zaun as enemies, I would not call that tradition. Tradition would be keeping original status quo - Piltover is superior to Zaun. Trying to change that is already going against the tradition. Same goes for order. Magic actually has a character that had very similar goals to Sevika - Chandra. She was fighting in a very similar setting for very similar ends, but she never was Boros. So I don’t think that having some semblance of order justifies White colour. For that to be true, order itself must be character’s main priority.
@Simpson17866
@Simpson17866 2 года назад
@@feduckil9238 Question :) Have you ever seen Captain America: The Winter Soldier? In "Great White Way - Revisited," Mark Rosewater types the lead villain as mono-White, rather than White/Black or mono-Black.
@The_Story_Of_Us
@The_Story_Of_Us 2 года назад
Again, I think you’re right on the money. Once again I will refer to tweets by Amanda Overton, one of Arcane’s writers, talking about Vi vs Sevika. ”She (Vi) takes out years of pent up frustration and rage on Sevika, whom she thinks is the only thing standing between her and Silco.” And yeah. She beats her ass, remembering Vander as she gets back up, telling her Powder needs her. And what’s the scene like after Sevika sits unconscious and torn to bits in that smashed up jukebox? Nothing. Vi’s just stumbling on her feet in this empty, destroyed bar, the place that used to be her home, and she still doesn’t have her sister, even after the fight of her life. Everything she’s doing right now, the place she’s in, how she’s totally alone, fighting alone. How can you not feel small? feel weak? But also the catharsis of finishing such a brutal fight, of winning. That’s what it is, not just one thing, that scream, nay, that ROAR doesn’t just mean one thing, it’s the gutteral release of someone who is overwhelmed by everything going on in her life, overwhelmed by this chaotic mixture of emotion in the aftermath of a fight, a victory that meant so much to her on so many levels that somehow manages to feel hollow at the same time because she has no one left, nothing left right now. And then she gets what she wants, beating Sevika brought her to Powder and Silco, but now she’s strapped to a chair, powerless and unable to just ”take Silco out”, and we get it, man… The desperation from Vi in that whole final scene. After that fight where she gets to put all her strength to use, and then at the end, all her skill and muscle means nothing and she’s unable to save her sister, maybe even losing her for good. Just like Vander said. Her fists haven’t solved any of her problems, and now Jinx has given her even more of them.
@Obosii
@Obosii 2 года назад
Vi vs Sevika part 2 is one of my favourite moments of the show for one important reason. It shows Vi’s trauma and how, like Jinx, it has shaped her. Unlike Jinx who is stuck with the ghosts of Mylo and Clagor haunting her, Vi has the ghost of Vander spurring her on in a much more supportive way.
@ellybean7354
@ellybean7354 2 года назад
Sevika the queen gettin some much deserved attention!
@gleeful_4862
@gleeful_4862 2 года назад
I feel like a reason for this fight could be linked back to vi’s ideology of brute force solves problems. Think about it, she has just abandoned pilotover and after seeing Ekko and jinx fighting, she might have finally started believing that she couldn’t change jinx. She would’ve felt so lost and especially weak in this situation, unable to help the undercity and most of all being unable to help jinx, so what does she do? She needs a reason to feel strong just any reason so she finds the only person who she can fight and resorts to violence. I’m not good with analyzing but this kinda stuck out to me when thinking about the logic of this scene
@redroseibarahime8755
@redroseibarahime8755 2 года назад
I think the fight with Sevika makes a lot of sense. After Jayce proved to be useless to Vi because he backed out after killing the child, her plan to "burn down Silcos's bullshit empire all around him"(ep6) won't go off as planned because the other shimmer facilities will be guarded as well and as Jayce correctly said"you won't make it alone". So what is left for her? Well,...going directly after Silco as she believes when he is gone, her sister will come to her senses. So, as she has no better plan left, of course she goes to the last drop as Silco took that over and should be there in her opinion. And of course, his no.2 is there as well protecting him. So Vi has to win against Sevica first in order to go after Silco. And she does very well say his name after her soul scream. If Jinx didn't take her out, she would have surely gone after him next (if she managed to find him as he was not in the last drop but Vi was not aware of that). That is how she believed she could solve her problems. And the reason for that soul scream/war cry imo: If it wasn't for that hextech shield Vi would have lost to Sevika. Therefore, she feels inferior to Sevika since she didn't win out of her own strengh and battle techniques. It feels more like pure luck this shield activated at the right time because she wasn't even aware of it until then(in the game this is her passive). That's why she led out that frustration with a scream before moving on to Silco. She is a straight forward fighter with her fists- her own body and far and foremost fair without any underhanded tricks. And she never delivers a killing blow. I think this didn't feel like a real/fair win to her but in the end she accepted it because she has a more important goal at that moment: Silco - the source of all her problems in her opinion.
@coreyholt8522
@coreyholt8522 2 года назад
I agree. Basically even though she can win any fight, it's not solving her problems or actually helping anyone.
@gleeful_4862
@gleeful_4862 2 года назад
@@redroseibarahime8755 ok, that makes more sense then my idea, feel a bit stupid now T-T
@EnglisherThanThou
@EnglisherThanThou 2 года назад
Yeah I was going to say pretty much the same thing. She's just come from a team up with a Pilty who ducked out because they were too weak to do what needed to be done. I bet she also feels guilty about the kid who got killed too, but she's subsuming that. Either way, she's frustrated now; all she knows is fighting, but she can't exactly solo Silco's whole operation so she goes to find the one person she knows who can give her a good fight; someone who has the same outlook on strength as she does. Goalwise fighting Sevika is pointless; it accomplishes nothing. What Vi wants is validation and catharsis. But she doesn't get it. After she wins I think she realises that the fight was pointless and she still feels terrible, hence the scream.
@redroseibarahime8755
@redroseibarahime8755 2 года назад
@@gleeful_4862 your statement of Vi relying on violence because of her impulsivity is a very valid one. Especially since we know she was violent at the prison as well and I believe she had to be in order to survive that. My statement contains that as well. She doesn't have a better plan than to stomp in straight into the last drop where she believes Silco is - even the plan of going in with Jayce was an act of violence as well. The only thing I might doubt from your statement is that Vi will ever give up on Powder/Jinx. Since she feels guilty for "creating Jinx" and in ep9 Jinx is rubbing even more salt into her wound by confirming that. She wants to redeem herself and help her sister back on the right track at least - even if she might have realized by the finale of S1 that their relationship won't go back to what it once was. And in the finale you can see the helplessness you spoke about- she only speaks up in order to avoid that Jinx kills Caitlyn but doesn't answer Jinx's question about which chair she should sit in - she is absolutely overwhelmed by the situation and realization how far her sister is gone but at the same time she can't accept that and doesn't want to abandon her. And because she can't choose and is more or less mentally paralized, Jinx decides on her own now who she is.
@leodouskyron5671
@leodouskyron5671 2 года назад
Personally I see Vi and Sevika are like the cowboys in the old school Westerns. And We can make an assumption here - Sevika did not have a family so if the upper city was responsible then she would do what ever it takes to make them pay. If you are helping her get that done then she is on your side. If not - she leaves and finds someone that will. Vi still has her family and so she will do what ever it takes to save them all - and as long as Sevika is around none of them is safe. So for Vi, Sevika has got to go (also Vi wants payback for Vander). You got your Classic cowboy motivations.
@maks7355
@maks7355 2 года назад
The song they fight to is also very Western-y lol
@xylypotatohead3947
@xylypotatohead3947 2 года назад
Yeah the whole scene is like from a western movie especially the shots that focus on their eyes and everything
@gimmeyourrights8292
@gimmeyourrights8292 2 года назад
Big Iron on her fists
@MALICEM12
@MALICEM12 2 года назад
That would also be an interesting thing to explore, if Jinx died, would Vi just become like Sevika?
@deboraron2794
@deboraron2794 2 года назад
You put into words why I love Sevika so much! She’s ruthless and powerful, smart and entertaining. I wouldn’t want to cross her path. I have high hopes for her in season 2!!
@Rampala
@Rampala 2 года назад
I was definitely shocked when Sevika chose NOT to betray Silco! The narrative was certainly leading us to think that she was going to betray Silco, but NOPE. This series is constantly surprising me.
@whammo5779
@whammo5779 2 года назад
I've been binging your channel, and it's all so good, so amazing how much you can get from this show!
@SiaCh_
@SiaCh_ 2 года назад
yes, I absolutely agree that Sevika is a foil for Vi, and this is the characters reason to fight. But another thing that i kinda expected you to mention but didnt: Sevika and Vi's fighting style is almost exactly the same, which means that the symbolic representation for them is the tools they utilise: Shimmer and hextech. Their fight in episode 5 shows that the undercity has no way of changing because of silcos use of shimmer, and thats why Vi looses. Later when Vi gains her hextech gloves it symbolizes the only way to fight against shimmer and by extension Silco and his regime. The last fight therefore becomes a fight between hextech and shimmer. I'd love to hear more opinions about this because i havent seen this interpretation before
@rayf6126
@rayf6126 4 месяца назад
Shimmer is only in Undercity and Sevika uses it to fight and it shows a lack of compromise, and it imparts extreme strength followed by self- destruction. Hextech is present in both places and helps both cities, and has a lot of purposes. The upper city grew in technology but became vulnerable to the same technology. It's a difference I'm not sure how to explain.
@spacemonkey4u
@spacemonkey4u Год назад
On first watch of the show my impression was that Sevika represented the Undercity itself giving character to the city and environment they in. When the city lost Vander, Sevika lost her arm, and when the city got a upgrade she got the same upgrade. That's why I really enjoyed both fight scenes with Sevika vs Vi. It was like Vi fighting the city itself. I think Sevika made an awesome 1st boss fight for Arcane as a whole.
@strawberrycatastrofy257
@strawberrycatastrofy257 2 года назад
I also noticed that Sevika's shimmer arm is different between bar fights. The first one the shimmer is injected from the top automatically but is shot out by Caitlyn. The new version is loaded manually in the forearm and is covered. She upgraded it not just with a laser knife but also clever placement of a known weak point.
@DeonAshleigh
@DeonAshleigh 2 года назад
I see Sevika in a different light. Assuming she truly believes in the cause-to free the people of the undercity from Piltover- she’s the most selfless person on the show. Possible spoilers. Rather than being a soulless cog of inferiority, she’s willing to sacrifice any deep relationships to free Zaun. Earlier in the show, we learn that Sevika is a regular at the brothel. To me, this could be for three reasons: 1. She’s made a deal with someone in the brothel. 2. * She goes there to get a shot of humanity without making any deeper connections. 3. She loves someone who works at the brothel. There’s a reason Sevika keeps saying that Vander and Silco aren’t the right leaders: both of them are corrupted by love. And so is Vi. All of them will sacrifice the undercity for the people they love-those precious, irreplaceable people. After finding Jinx, Silco didn't want to fight anymore either. That's why he kept sending Jinx on the missions. He could build up her confidence and sabotage the mission at the same time. Jinx is unstable, and she has a history of messing up Silco's missions. He let her do this because he wants to live like Vander while still looking like Silco. He can betray Zaun in a sneaky way; Silco's not as brave as Vander, and his "care circle" is small like Vi's. *** Sevika’s the person who’s able to set herself aside and get close to no one. She has no ego. It’s not about her-it’s about the greater good. Sevika goes to the brothel-possibly to have a fling with some random, then leave-so she can be free of love for any one person. So she can free undercity from Piltover. What a lonely existence, but I think Sevika believes in freeing everyone. Because the others have precious people, they will choose those few over the many. And when they and their precious people do get a better life, they won’t want to risk those people to fight for random people. And so, Sevika’s hiding in the background, keeping everyone a nameless cog. If everyone’s a cog-and she doesn’t assign any preciousness to anyone-she could achieve Undercity’s independence. She can save everyone. So far, Sevika has been effective because she's in the background. She seems to be a matcher. A person who mirrors other people to get close to them. When she’s not with Vi, we don’t see Sevika fight too much. She’s looking relaxed, quiet, and watching other people. I think she’s standing behind a "leader" while pulling the strings. It’s clear she doesn’t think Vander, Vi, or Silco are fit to lead. Working in the shadows makes it easier for her to be forgotten. Rather than being the face of power or hatred, and having to put on any façade, she can be the lowly henchwoman who’s just following orders. But, she’s not. Slowly, much of the power is transferring to her, and she can keep that power even if the leader changes. “Sevika will take care of it.” I think she’s the Mel of the undercity, except more straightforward. Undercity people aren’t known to be extremely sneaky, so she can be manipulative in a straightforward way. From Sevika’s point of view, building a family in the undercity is a problem. If everyone decides to become a family and settle into their existence through love, they’ll never get their freedom. They'll all betray their own freedom. So far, each leader has chosen their precious people-in some respect, a selfish love-over freeing everyone. Vander sacrificed undercity for his children; Silco sacrificed undercity for his child, and Vi has a limited radius of love. She fights for her family. She’ll sacrifice anything for them. None of them care much about the masses; they care about the people they love. If Sevika loves no one, she can love everyone. *** But that makes me think: if Vi’s family was fine, would she keep fighting? Vi doesn’t seem to have a large enough “care zone” to fight for everyone. She deeply and passionately wants a few to do well. Her perspective widened later. From what we’ve seen, Sevika doesn’t have a Caitlyn. She doesn’t know a top-sider with a heart, so she believes the only way to get their freedom is to fight. The only reason Vi changed her mind is that she met Caitlyn. Before that, she was similar to Sevika, Silco, and Vander. Fighting was the only answer. But, thinking more about fighting being Vi’s only answer: If she hadn’t been in prison, would she have been able to create what Vander and Ekko were able to create? Would she have been able to create a family on a large scale? I don’t think so. Vi didn’t have the ability. She was too focused on pushing people away to protect her sphere of love. To protect her sister. Fighting was her only answer. She didn’t ask questions or slow down to listen. Before meeting Caitlyn, Vi wasn’t able to bring people together, and Vander wasn’t either before he found his children. Vi was family with Mylo, Claggor, and Ekko because of Vander more than anything else. He was the dad, and they were his children. I don’t think Vi would’ve been effective at bringing people together in the undercity or taking Piltover down by herself. She didn’t have a big enough perspective to do it. Ekko and Vander are able to scale up their care. Both of them are able to see the humanity of the masses. And Ekko is awesome. He’s focused on building a better world not fighting for one. They do live in the undercity of progress after all. Vi’s learning that now, but I don’t think she would’ve learned it if the situation was different. *** Vi wins that last battle, but she's lost the war. I think Sevika can start a war by herself, but Vi can't make peace by herself. We don’t know Sevika’s motive to free the undercity, but she’s the most selfless character on this show.
@The_Isaiahnator
@The_Isaiahnator Год назад
I love the twist they used for this character. At the beginning, we're led to believe that she's a disloyal opportunist who will switch sides at the drop of a hat, but when juxtaposed against Finn, we get to see how loyal she is. Her whole prosthetic arm is a testament to how much she was willing to sacrifice for the future of Zaun. Just in that one scene with Finn, she was elevated from a commonplace henchwoman to a gigantic figure in my eyes.
@jer103
@jer103 2 года назад
Arcane really goes in hard of the debate over nature vs nurture. Nature is ones individual personality. It's that one person's temperament, feeling, emotions, and heart. Nurture is your environment. When you grow up in a place like Zaun, it changes you to adapt. Even in Piltover, where technology and politics are well established, there are struggles for power.
@magnarcreed3801
@magnarcreed3801 2 года назад
I say it’s an inherent nature being shaped by your environment. Very clearly both come to play. Some lean more one way or the other though.
@greensmite4135
@greensmite4135 2 года назад
Sevika is the embodiment of "The Sword of Damocles" hanging over Silco's head both figuratively and literally. I wonder if she will get someone to replace Silco or if she will fill the seat herself. I don't think she is willing to sit in the thrown herself but the only character as "strong" as Silco is Jinx herself. I would love to see her working with Jinx but at the same time, the only person who managed to get Sevika to sit in Silco's chair was JInx when she tied her into it. That could be foreshadowing of Jinx forcing Sevika into the leadership role against her will. If that is the case then Sevika will make an interesting villain.
@GoonHandz
@GoonHandz 2 года назад
YES! Sevika was loyal to Zaun and stayed loyal to Zaun from day one. in season 2: i would love to see young vi looking up to sevika.
@feyefall4855
@feyefall4855 2 года назад
The "Zoomer terminology," I'm dead! On a serious note, I love how they not only created all of these fleshed-out, fascinating characters but also wove them together and used them to enhance eachother's arcs and themes. Even the side characters that seem plot-driven on the surface have so much more to them. It's so good; you can just stare at this show for months, just studying it and taking it apart, and not get tired of it! A big thanks for always showing me the hidden depths!
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 2 года назад
Big Mommy Roadblock Energy
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 2 года назад
Damn you, Schnee... You made me wanna hug Sevika and tell her that she's perfect!
@Sleawzor
@Sleawzor 2 года назад
I mean, Silco's office is right above the bar. As far as Vi knows, Sevika *is* the last thing standing between her and getting her hands on Silco, right?
@tagtwo
@tagtwo 2 года назад
@DETOXOLATE from a pure force chart or a roster perspective Sevika is #2 and Jinx is just the favored daughter/special operative. With out a direct order from Silco, his organization will take their orders from Sevika over Jinx. But that doesn’t change the fact Jinx has more pull with Silco then Sevika.
@joshholman8753
@joshholman8753 Год назад
The whole Vi against Sevika is used greatly to show how neck on neck the advancements in hextech and shimmer, but also how they're functionally so different with shimmer augmenting life at its core while hextech is meant to be an extension. In the last episode fight, we see Sevika with one arm exposed and the other augmented by shimmer, while Vi has both Atlas gauntlets on until one is destroyed (by shimmer might i add), leaving her with her bare fist exposed and on an equal playing field. After that, Vi destroys Sevika's augmented arm with the gauntlet, meaning that by the end, we've seen both sides destroy the other until one comes out victorious, which is potentially symbollic of the war between Piltover and Zaun that lurks over the whole series.
@AxleBoost
@AxleBoost 2 года назад
I’d argue there was actually a point to Vi fighting Sevika again, and she did have a plan, although a brutishly simple one. But then again, that’s who Vi is so it kinda works. She’s very earnest, direct, and fearless to a fault. Her loose ‘strategy’ the way I saw it was “I will punch stuff till I conquer the obstacles that harm me and the people I care about (Powder, Ekko, Caitlyn).” Her goal, in a way, looped back around to what it was in episode 1. Fight for what matters. At one point, Vander holds up her bruised hand and tells her essentially that violence solves nothing. She tries to rethink her worldview based on this advice from the one she admires, and in later episodes tries other methods of conflict resolution. She tries giving those she doesn’t know if she can trust a chance to prove themselves, she tries diplomacy, she tries letting others help break down obstacles (all of these mainly happen when she’s with Caitlyn and Ekko, but also The Council - and later Jayce apart from the rest of the council). These alternatives all fail for one reason or another. She goes from wondering if violence works to considering that maybe trying something new works, and then a step further to trying a mixture of different methods, violence included. When all of that fails her, she reverts back to the method she always thought was best. Punch your problems out of existence. By the time of Sevika fight 2, she is flailing, grasping for any way to reach her goals. Everyone she tried to challenge her own views and work with either failed to make change or died (I assume she thinks Ekko’s dead), which is still failure since it changed nothing. Left in this situation, she opts for the only thing she knows. Fight for what matters. Punch problems away. Silco’s empire is a problem that needs to be punched away, in VI’s opinion. So that’s what she does after parting ways with Jayce: punches Sevika until she’s down, and then Vi focuses on finding and punching Silco. However, in her usual chaotic fashion, Jinx throws a wrench into those plans and they grind to a halt. I feel like if that didn’t happen, we would have seen Vi punching her way through Silco’s goons until only her sister was left. That never would have worked, but she was out of options by this point.
@MoRPho151
@MoRPho151 2 года назад
I like a lot your interpretation of that. It helped me to interpret everything better. I also was confused when at the council she and Caitlyn weren’t on the same page in terms of how to resolve everything. She was desperate to see the council doing something to stop him, anything really. She returns to that defend mechanism of punch for getting out of trouble or achieve things when she is on the edge or when she has nothing more to do. I think that punching is like almost a visceral reaction in her, she doesn’t have to force it. The other ways are harder or unnatural for her to apply.
@strawberrycatastrofy257
@strawberrycatastrofy257 2 года назад
Great points! I didn't realize people didn't like the SeVika bar fight? That fight serves a TON of purpose! In terms of being a foil for each other, Sevika teaches Vi important lessons. In round #1, Sevika says "You never learned patience" and Vi immediately starts ducking and waiting for the right time to strike. She learns a bit of patience. (It also forces Vi and Cait together, and forces Silco to lie to Jinx). In round #2, Sevika destroys a gauntlet, forcing Vi to reconnect with the Vander inside her, reminding the audience of her journey (vital leading up to the dinner scene in which she chooses to protect Cait) and from that she learns to protect herself better; a literal Hextech shield that we will definitely be seeing more of. Plus, it will force Vi to ally with Jayce (and Piltover) to get a new pair of gauntlets. Sevika is Vi's mentor, in an antagonistic way. As well, Sevika is the last character who could possibly interfere with the dinner scene and needed to be neutralized. My prediction for season 2: Sevika joins the Firelights. Sound crazy? She isn't a leader, as you said, and she ain't gonna join Jinx or Piltover. Plus she needs a new arm, and Ekko and Heimerdinger (who both probably believe in rehabilitation) could easily hook her up (Sevika with a glowing green arm!). This will cause immediate tension between Vi and Ekko, as Vi see's Sevika as a traitor. Vi needs new gauntlets from Jayce, loves Cait (and may need to support her if Cait's mom is RIP), and feels guilt for "creating" Jinx; Vi will stay in Piltover, and in Ekko's eyes Vi is the traitor. Jinx may link up with Singed (and maybe Viktor and Warwick??). Throw in a pissed off Noxian warlord and a mage from Jayce's past and baby you got a season two going.
@gloriaaaaa
@gloriaaaaa Год назад
I love the idea of Sevika joining the firelights! Great analysis in general too!
@strawberrycatastrofy257
@strawberrycatastrofy257 Год назад
@@gloriaaaaa Thanks!! I've thought about it a lot :)
@frostl1714
@frostl1714 2 года назад
Sevika's motivations are quite simple: The Future: To see the undercity thrive in the long term. Who does she betray: Vander and The Chembarons. She betrays Vander because Vander only wanted to keep things as they were, with no ambition to improve their situation in the under-city or Zaun if you will. She betrays the Chem-barons for similar reasons: The Chem-Barons did not seek to improve the current situation, sure they might have fixed a few of the more immediate issues (Jinx), but after that, they have no plan to actually improve the undercity's standing. The reason she betrayed Vander is because Vander did not have any ambition to improve their lives, whilst Silco did. On the other hand, whilst the Chem-barons would've solved the immediate problems, they had no long-term plan. You know who did have a long-term plan, Silco, and his plan for the independent nation of Zaun.
@lylasgames1191
@lylasgames1191 2 года назад
finally sevika!!! ok here is my grand sevika theory i've been waiting to share: sevika's main interest is talking sh*t. we're introduced sevika talking sh*t to vander, she talks sh*t when beaten in a fight, when tied up to a chair, sh*t talk is sevika's true loyalty. is vander a good sh*t-talker? no, silco is so: betrayed. is finn as good a sh*t talker as silco? not by a long shot, we see finn's dialogue annoys sevika with it's worminess over bravado, and as if to confirm it right after sevika saves silco what does he do? talk some sh*t to rennie about her dead son. my theory started as a joke in my mind, but the more i thought about it the more i bought into it. love the videos and the discussion about this amazing series.
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 года назад
lol i like it!
@baxland2539
@baxland2539 2 года назад
Now that you said all those things it hit me - What Sevika represents is EXACTLY what Silco ideology is, and what inability to do ultimately causes his 'failure' in claiming the Nation of Zaun. Sevika is all about 'sacrificing for the cause'. That idea, is worth everything - she isnt loyal to any*body*, she is loyal to this idea... Like you said: She leave Vander because she feels like HE gave up on it, she feels betrayed. And doesn't backstab Silco because no matter how many flaws Silco displayed, especially with Jinx, his ultimate goal still aligned with Sevikas, while chembarons didnt rly want a fight... they wanted to profit. So ofc Sevika wouldnt go with Finn instead of Silco: thus the line: "not for a worm like him". Sevike is *perfect* embodiment of Silco's ideology.
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko Год назад
Sevika not betraying Silco was a lot more...tenuous. He's breathing hard because he entirely knew there was a chance she WOULD betray him. I think she genuinely considered it as an option. But as she said, not for a worm like him. It wasn't Silco that determined that she didn't, it's that the alternative leader wasn't good enough. And both of them absolutely know that other alternatives will come along and that she just might...whenever he stops being the best choice. Vander did stop being the best choice for leader of what the people wanted. So she made the choice that time. It's consistant. She still betrayed her leader, but that's because she wanted to follow the will of the people then, the rage and urge to bring down Piltover, even if it burned Zaun. Strength happens to be the valued tool to GET to that revenge.
@alex7491681
@alex7491681 2 года назад
You could make the argument that Sevika was so hugely representative of Silco's strength (as mentioned by Finn in that she is the muscle behind everything) that defeating her foreshadowed Silco's downfall. Because Sevika is only loyal to that willingness to fight, and Silco had just given up everything he had fought for for Jinx. In the end, Silco saw Jinx as "perfect" because he saw more Zaun in her than in Sevika, and she never could have stayed loyal to Silco after he (like Vander) gave it up for family. So i guess you could say that Vi's defeating Sevika isn't trivial by any means. Silco lost at Vander's statue, we just didn't know it yet. The fight lets us see Silco losing his power, but the truth is he already lost it.
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 года назад
I hear it, very cool interpretation!
@Graid
@Graid 2 года назад
You're so insightful here about the multiple ways her character plays into the story- how a character who switches sides still has her own underlying loyalty to the cause that views individuals as replaceable, how her actions make sense when you consider that she's doing what she thinks will keep things 'on plan' for Zaun. I said 'wow' out loud listening to the part about how she is the anti-Vi because unlike Vi, and, as an imperfect mirror also, of Vander and Silco's relationship- she views people- even herself as tools for a goal she's committed to, and as replaceable in that. I also really appreciated your previous videos' insight into Vi and her attitude to Piltover and how she resents Zaun's inferiority, as compared to Silco's embrace of Zaun as itself (and Jinx as symbolic of that), in another video. It helped a lot to understand some of the seeming inconsistencies of Vi there. One thing I think is interesting in the light of this analysis is Vi vs Jayce on this issue. In the scene down at the chemical factory we have Vi telling Jayce deaths, like the death of this kid he killed, had always been going on, out of sight in Zaun. But she also seems, there, to be closer to seeing that one kid as being as replaceable as Piltover and Zaun sees him to be even though she is, too, upset by it. Perhaps it's more.. she sees that in the context of a war between them, they would be, then again, she herself seems keen to fight them to get to Silco.
@maem7462
@maem7462 2 года назад
I think another reason why Sevika chooses Silco other than feeling betrayed by Vander is the fact that Silco is super ambitious and got things done. He did actually help them out some and sure some ppl were worse of. I think for Sevika she saw what he did was helping her and some other ppl from the undercity
@smeeshouldhaveswallowed
@smeeshouldhaveswallowed Год назад
Starting to think VI felt this way because Sevika sort of 'raised her'. They seem to share a lot of history. Specifically when she has her arms trapped in their first fight (I see you never learned patience) and when Sevika says "The Vander 'I' knew". That line seemed pretty personal and she wasn't including the rest of the Lanes people when she said it. Also that look when Vander was being pulled away on the bridge. Sevika felt guilt and disappointment and then seemed to remember her goals. I think her and the kids share a lot more history than it leading on. And I think Vi / Sevika are going to reveal more in season 2, while 'Vander' is going to remember her and just rip her apart. I wanted to say that even Jinx may kill Sevika, but, Sevika is like....her only remaining 'family' member around. So, she may beat up Sevika, but she wont out right kill her.
@Blunderbat
@Blunderbat 2 года назад
I do think theres a bit more to this. Theres a lot of depth in this scene for a supposedly simple fight scene. If you think about the context of the scene, Vi says Silco is still out there, so she goes to his HQ after leaving Jayce. That is where shes headed. Shes on a mission to clean up the lanes, defeat Silco and Sevika is standing in her way again. But its not only that. The bar that they are fighting in is as much of a home to her as anywhere. In many ways Sevika enabled all these bad things to happen when she essentially lead the rebellion against Vander. Sure she joined Silco but she was the one leading the others to join him. She gave the muscle to Silco to enact these changes. Im sure to Vi, she is one of the main reasons her father figure, Vander is 'dead'. And like in the scene when Finn tries to win her over, he is saying shes actually the one who holds the power here. Which is true really. She is the one who is still socialising with the rest of the zaunites, who has her finger on the pulse, its her decision if Silco dies and another takes over. Its the stubborness and hard-headedness of people like Sevika who keeps fighting for the undercity which gives any real weight to the idea that Zaun is strong enough to stand on its own and stand up for itself. Yes I think Vi's scream is one of frustration at these obstacles and her inability to change things, but in a way, she also just avenged Vander in his own pub. Thats who she sees. Thats who gives her strength and reminds her what shes fighting for. The moment in which she sees vander at the point she could have given up, is deeply touching. Shes fighting to get her home back. And yet she cant get her father back. Who Sevika betrayed to Silco. The way she just goes in on her the first time Vi sees Sevika out of prison shows the rage and the hurt she holds against her as the person who turned her back on Vander and lead the undercity into the control of Silco. Its not just that shes his 2nd in command. At least thats how I read it. And while I do think theres a coldness to Sevika, I think she does see the love Silco has for Jinx ans advises him from a place of sincerity. I can empathise with her too in a way, because Sevika is the angry downtrodden. She is too angry to make peace with Piltover after the way they treated her and her people. She doesnt believe they deserve peace, she believes Zaun deseves its independence. Itd be good to get more backstory on her but the idea of her as an angry youth, disagreeing with her father and storming off. Now matured into this colder, determined anger that won't rest until it gets what it wants, no matter what it takes. Maybe Jinx tipped the scales in the end but she seems less motivated by a mission to see Zaun lifted up and more out of interpersonal reasons, she wants what her family wants. Shes motivated by personal pain and the desire to take it out on others. Sevika may well also be motivated by personal pain but its not about appeasing anyone. Its a case of principles. Her principles that she has stood by and have become hardened into her. Sevika is cold angry determination. And you're right Vi is softer, more willing to hear other peoples perspectives, she has a good heart. She feels deeply for the people around her. On a personal level. I definitely agree with you on this. But I wasn't disappointed by her fight with Vi, it was a rematch waiting to happen. But it was almost Vi's last stand. If Silco was cowering behind that bar or upstairs, she could have marched up there and defeated him without his bodyguard. She could have reclaimed her home and avenged Vander. But ofc Jinx interupts that road to victory..she Jinxes it again, by kidnapping them all.
@Blunderbat
@Blunderbat 2 года назад
And also I supppse in a way its like what Caitlyn says about the cycle of violence, it just keeps going around and around. Vi is trapped in this fight over and over and she never really escapes it.
@gloriaaaaa
@gloriaaaaa Год назад
Such an interesting take!
@mizzy5193
@mizzy5193 2 года назад
Sevika really grew on me through the series to the point of being one of my faves... such a badass no nonsense character with a redeemable set of qualities and characteristics
@kevind3974
@kevind3974 2 года назад
My first time watching savika not betraying silco did not surprise me much. Her loyalty was simple after all. Whoever is better for zauns independents. Vander failed miserably once his deal fell thru. he lost everything he built as it was on a house of cards. Silco was the opposite though it seemed like he was loosing at that time as we know now he was completely winning, only jinx made him look bad as she was a wildcard. Her better option was silco
@JenniferFuss
@JenniferFuss 2 года назад
I figured the fight happened naturally as Vi, when she doesn't know what to do, appears to attempt to find a new way by beating up on Silcos goons. Bald Guy, Sevika and Sevika again. After that massive impass of leaving Caitlyn because of her oil and water theory.
@bennyboiart7781
@bennyboiart7781 2 года назад
What I really like about Arcane’s sometimes ambiguous nature is that it leads to awesome analyses and discussions about the underlying meaning(s) of it, such as this here video and comment section.
@iwanttolickuranus3353
@iwanttolickuranus3353 2 года назад
Fart
@errorcode9542
@errorcode9542 2 года назад
no
@jODancerOj
@jODancerOj 2 года назад
Sevika is not a hard character to understand. She has a dream of undercity independence. But she wants progress, Vander wanted Safety. This is a common THEME in this show. Safety is stagnant, Progress is dangerous. Vander/Heimerdinger Safety, Silco/Victor Progress. Only reason she didn't betray Silco was because he was the better option than what she had and Silco knows it. She is keeping Silco in line. But like Vander he now has weakness. Sevika's problem is she's a coward. In all her toughness she doesn't have the courage or confidence to lead and so she will always be waiting for someone to fill that throne and carry her to her dream.
@MyMarsham
@MyMarsham 2 года назад
Nice analysis! I never thought of Vi choosing to side with Silco because “We have to fight,” but the way you presented it makes so much sense. Just goes to show how much more depth there is to this series than most others. Personally, I’ve always like Sevika as a character. She’s as tough as a brick outhouse, _never_ backs down from a fight, and her magical adamantium jaw can take any punishment. But she also has enough respect for her most hated enemy to let both of them take a breather for a minute halfway through an epic showdown.
@onebilliontacos3405
@onebilliontacos3405 2 года назад
9:32 Something else that I thought was pretty interesting is that Silco is seen smoking cigars throughout the show. Cigars are a symbol for power, they are a symbol for strength and having him smoke one in this scene where Sevika calls him a worm I thought was pretty neat.
@jessicajovel7162
@jessicajovel7162 Год назад
5:40 yes, for example, those stories about families trying to survive war or disasters and try to stick together through it all, to not separate, to STAY together, to continue life toghether... actually those stories keep me on edge. OOOOH and like when Tohru chases Kyou, because she wanted him to CONTINUE living with her in that house, that was one of the strongest episodes in fruits basket, and it was preventing change.
@gergelyritter9599
@gergelyritter9599 2 года назад
I absolutely love Sevika. She is higher on my list than Vi actually. For which caeachters I love most
@samkruse155
@samkruse155 2 года назад
I actually think Vi went to clear out the Last Drop. She was cleaning house and evicting the unwelcome new owners of her home. Then she breaks down because she knows, finally, that her entire family is gone and there's no way it'll ever feel like home again. She never allowed herself to accept the loss, and Sevika represented a tangible target to eliminate on her list of wrongs to make right, something she could actually DO something about. But Powder will never go back there, and so Vi has to shift her view of how to "save" Powder. She could always keep herself going by relentlessly chading her objectives. But after beating Sevika, punishing her for Vander, it still got her no closer to saving what was lrft of her family, and Vander's ideals. Nothing makes sense anymore, but she still has one thing left she can fix: chase the monsters away and get Powder back.
@Lemoon27
@Lemoon27 2 года назад
I always thought Vi just needed her revenge against Sevika thus explaining the "unnecessary" battle
@weliveinadystopia665
@weliveinadystopia665 2 года назад
Your analysis vids are so good! Been impatiently waiting for this one!
@mm-gk6xg
@mm-gk6xg 2 года назад
you seriously blow my mind with each of your videos, your analytical skills are top tier and you make me love and appreciate this show even more
@aneonfoxtribute
@aneonfoxtribute 2 года назад
Ill also say, I really like how "When Everything Went Wrong" played during Sevika and Vi's fight. Because Vi coming back is when everything started going wrong for Sevika, and Sevika betraying Vander is when everything started going wrong for Vi. So it's a personal conflict because each of them ruined the other person's goals.
@eef6715
@eef6715 Год назад
Sevika is one of my favorite characters in the show, I love this video
@bipedal-sharkperson
@bipedal-sharkperson 2 года назад
I'm obsessed with your Arcane analysis videos. Obsessed. You notice the most incredible details and story threads and themes and every time I watch a new one it makes me love Arcane even more. I also learn more about storytelling itself and I love that you use Arcane as a vehicle to teach about that. You are so smart and your analysis videos are crafted so eloquently, concisely, and brilliantly. Thank you so much for continuing to do these, they are my favorite videos on RU-vid!
@mimull1378
@mimull1378 2 года назад
I still feel like the scene in this figth whwre Vi sees Vander is really important. This shows Vi beeing at her lowest ponit, but she regains her hope when she sees her father figure once more.
@thelastwish558
@thelastwish558 2 года назад
I'vent seen arcane yet but I just love your analysis videos of arcane
@thelastwish558
@thelastwish558 2 года назад
Same
@marciedahomie4700
@marciedahomie4700 11 месяцев назад
Knowing vi is going to win that fight makes the scene much more impactful. I think it shows Sevikas place within her own ideology. People are replaceable and she is no exception. Vi may have beat sevika in the fight, but as far as their ideological parallels go, sevikas loyalty to her own, even when she and the audience knows she can’t match up to a plot armored character like vi, makes her real and relatable. I don’t think we have seen the end of her and I think she will prove herself a worthy final boss for vi.
@selfsabotagingbanana0451
@selfsabotagingbanana0451 2 года назад
I thought Silco (Scheming, never gets his hands dirty) was the anti-Vi and Sevika (places doubts in Jinxs head and calls her a problem in front of Silco) was more of a Mylo-replacement in Jinxs new "family".
@mlgmeistros4278
@mlgmeistros4278 Год назад
Nope she replaces Vander with Silco. That much was obvious.
@HGolde
@HGolde 2 года назад
In the case of Sevika telling Silco not to go after Jinx, I see this as her being a real human connecting with her boss; not everything she does has to be concerned with her role as someone trying to uphold the status quo. She's just a multi-dimensional character, and I'm glad they let her be human. It's also extremely refreshing to see a second-in-command character be content with being second-in-command, instead of the ambitious henchman stereotype that is so predictable and uninteresting because it's just lazy conflict (in my opinion).
@audrei679
@audrei679 2 года назад
Sevika used to work for vander, and vi expresses deep disgust and a feeling of betrayal in the very first line she speaks in their first episode "you filthy fucking traitor" in the first scene, vi won, but not "really". she was exhausted, beaten to bits, and sevika ultimately won in the end and was able to warn silco. In the second fight scene vi is saying "i am better than you, i am stronger than you, and i am more loyal than you." by ripping her arm off, the arm that was destroyed to protect and rebuilt by silco. she is saying "no matter how strong you are being a follower, i will always be stronger than you on my own."
@MJR-eq1jl
@MJR-eq1jl 2 года назад
Congrats 20k! Well deserved.
@RuthParodies
@RuthParodies 2 года назад
I LOVE your long video's. Thanks for putting so much work into your video's. They are a treat!!
@makaipost260
@makaipost260 2 года назад
I feel like the whole premise of this video is that Sevika is trying to keep the status quo, to prevent change, but things clearly have changed and in large part because of her actions. You even pointed that out (13:27) but then right after you went back to saying nothing has changed. You also said Vi wanted everything to be the same, but that's not true either. I think they both want change, but they just have a different vision of what that change should be. I think when Vi gets out of prison, she sees everything changed, but for the worse. Even Vander wanted change, but he had given up hope so at the end, he was just doing his best to hold onto what they already had. I think you are right about Sevika's loyalties though. She doesn't care about one person, she just cares about whomever has the power and can change things to reflect her vision of the undercity.
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 года назад
Yeah I could have been clearer on that. The status quo I'm talking about at the beginning of the video is the path towards war/zaun independence. Sevika keeps that course from changing, and that course itself causes the changes Vi wakes up to. Things do change ofc, but Sevika is successful in keeping the general paths she cares about unchanged according to her principles.
@copper-4390
@copper-4390 2 года назад
That last fight also seems like a way to show the power of shimmer vs hextech. When jayce and silco spoke, jayce said that the under-city wouldn’t stand a chance against hextech. Yet we see that sevika (using shimmer) was able to take out one of vi’s gauntlets easily, making it useless. And it took vi down once the anti-gravity was lost. But we also see that hextech was still able to beat shimmer( once vi put up her guard and the gauntlets formed a shield)
@djx7134
@djx7134 9 месяцев назад
Pretty late response here, I know, but this is incorrect. The Atlas gauntlets are being used improperly as weapons when they are not designed for that purpose. Sevika's blade is explicitly a weapon with no other purpose. A better comparison is between her blade and Jayce's hammer. It seems pretty obvious that the hammer is vastly superior. I can't see Sevika's blade 1-shotting chemtanks, for instance. Also, Hextech could theoretically be used in giant cannons that nuke entire cities. Its potential is practically limitless, unlike shimmer.
@carmelr5504
@carmelr5504 2 года назад
Aw yes! I was looking forward to your thoughts on what's-up-with-Sevika, love these theories 😄 Is especially impactful to point out how she she's succeeded in all the ways Vi failed, damn, so cool! And congrats on the 20k (and rising)!
@fcasias7
@fcasias7 2 года назад
The third one sets things up fairly well too. Vi faces everything with action, and when she finally takes down Sevila that way... nothing changes. At least, not in a positive way. Sevika seeing people as replaceable clashes with Vi, then she loses. And then immediately Sevika is left with the void of Silco's death and no one to fill it.
@sunlioness1
@sunlioness1 2 года назад
I urge anyone who loves your analysis as much as I do, to share the love on your Patreon. Your content is truly phenomenal and thought provoking!
@schnee1
@schnee1 2 года назад
ευχαριστώ!
@passwordyeah729
@passwordyeah729 2 года назад
@@schnee1 eisai ellinas? :0
@sunlioness1
@sunlioness1 2 года назад
@@passwordyeah729 Nah, he knows I'm Greek cause we had a chat on his Patreon.
@reinbachschtoltenheim7601
@reinbachschtoltenheim7601 Год назад
I'm excited to see Sevika for Season 2. If your theory about Sevika being the person who embraces the ideology of preventing change, then what comes next for her in season 2 could be really interesting. In the last clips she's in Silco's office, but she takes a seat on the side. Nothing appears to be hinted on what she'll plan or do next, but after her confrontation with Vi who is her anti-Sevika, she may be forced to change. Would she take over Silco's position, find someone else to take his place, or gain a greater understanding on how Vander decided to live his life and become a new Vander. However it may be, I do hope she just doesn't become meat-fodder as Warwick's first victim or something.
@grey29825
@grey29825 2 года назад
This was such a good analysis video! My favorite of yours so far! I love the compassion of these two characters, both of which I love so much.
@TheWiseMountainGoat
@TheWiseMountainGoat 2 года назад
I know I'm in the minority, but Savika was my favorite character. Her goals and intentions are obscured but at their core are simple and straight forward. They couldn't have made a better foil for Vi, and an antagonist couldn't ask for a better henchman. I need more Savika in this show's future!
@sergioaccioly5219
@sergioaccioly5219 2 года назад
Sevika is one of my favorite characters, for many of the reasons mentioned in this video. Tough, loyal to her ideals, disciplined and honest (after a fashion). I'm not sure I agree with Sevika being an avatar of dehumanization. But the arguments are good. I'll have to give it some thought. Also, she has to hate Jinx's guts. I mean, she lost her frigging arm to her. And yet, she does her best to work with her. I wonder how these two will get along after Jinx killed Silco and sunk his agreement with Piltover.
@voidzstealth5870
@voidzstealth5870 2 года назад
I was so exited for this video and you definitely delivered 😊
@spoons8531
@spoons8531 2 года назад
i loved that scene with sevika fighting vi in the bar, as someone else said yea its "useless" but i think intentionally because it shows how vi got some more power and is angry and just wants to fight, i also have my own theory that sevika is going to begrudgingly side with vi next season for something, and i think the way the fight went where its almost like the physical manifestation of an arguement makes sense, especially the short bit where vi stops to take a drink and then throws it at sevika, i also 100% cried when the image of vander appeared so it was a perfect scene for me
@KitKat-gn2nn
@KitKat-gn2nn 2 года назад
Love the effort and thought you put into your content!!! ❤
@Zephirite.
@Zephirite. 2 года назад
Vander: "Do I look afraid?" Sevika: "No. You look *weak."* Silco: "Would you betray me?" Sevika: "Not for a *worm* like him." Is she a survivalist? Sevika values strength, and seems more interested in following the strongest powerhouse than their mission. She probably already knew about Vander vs Silco and the rise of Shimmer when the left Vander, sensing the power shift, and Silco had offered her a position, using his knowledge of Vander's trust. The Chem Baron snake guy made the error of telling Sevika his plans to usurp Silco, with enough time for her to betray him to Silco and come out on top. However, this paints Sevika as a survivalist, which contradicts her sacrifice for Silco.
@CalculusDaddy
@CalculusDaddy 2 года назад
I just hope Sevika gets released as a champion in league, she seems like she’d be fun to play ;-;
@andrashajnal2454
@andrashajnal2454 2 года назад
Geez your videos are so in depth. I love them.
@fcayhr
@fcayhr 2 года назад
i've forgone most of my responsibilities today because i can't stop watching these arcane analyses!!! i'm constantly blown away by how enlightening and valuable these videos are
@robbylawlor4259
@robbylawlor4259 2 года назад
Congrats on the 20k you 100% deserve it, at the time I'm writing this comment you're already at 24k lol. Consistently really well thought out analysis expressed eloquently, and the editing is well-done too even though the main focus is obviously the analysis. In my opinion the best Arcane-related content on RU-vid
@badforfatkids
@badforfatkids 2 года назад
Excellent video! I really appreciate that you center your analysis on story structure and what characters and scenes represent rather than what they textually are. A lot of video essayist start with this but end up taking this too...personally? I love Sevika as a foil for Vi and just as a beautifully designed character, and I'm hoping season 2 digs into the meat of her story more.
@vanvanivan
@vanvanivan 5 месяцев назад
i rewatched arcane recently and shortly after that started to watch your videos. on the first watch, i didn't paid attention to Sevika at all, but damn. now she's my favourite character for her personality, overall purpose and image. with your video, i just liked her even more. very excited for season 2 and your further analysis videos about it!
@ericfrancis7816
@ericfrancis7816 2 года назад
Your analyses are really fantastic -- thoughtful, thorough, deep, and full of insight. Thanks!
@jinxluvver3909
@jinxluvver3909 2 года назад
Your brain is quite impressive. Your videos are almost an outlet for my own analyses(but better)that I have no one to share with, so thank you
@lissclarence3092
@lissclarence3092 2 года назад
so glad i found your channel!! the first video i watched was the character analysis and im hooked - awesome video!!
@imtryingiswear97
@imtryingiswear97 2 года назад
Love your content, every time I watch a new vid I end up thinking man, Arcane is so smart with its writing, no way it can get better than this? And then the next video and the next keeps revealing a new nuance that I never considered. It’s thanks to your channel that I can properly appreciate this work of art! Thank you and keep up the good work :)
@noctemeffugio5962
@noctemeffugio5962 2 года назад
Not even finished watching but already subscribing. You starting to lay out her decisions is what immediately sold me
@rimjhimpal9244
@rimjhimpal9244 2 года назад
ahh ive just been waiting for a sevika video !!!
@JLoStu42
@JLoStu42 2 года назад
These characters mirror each other and Vi wanted to be the Sevika character (have her status) in her ideal world, if she hadn't been imprisoned. You can even find the reflection in their names. SeVIka, like one could've become the other if they had switched loyalties from ideology and family.
@kinjulhggffkl1330
@kinjulhggffkl1330 2 года назад
Best analysis videos on a series i have seen. Great work
@PianoCatProductions
@PianoCatProductions 2 года назад
congrats man on getting 20,000! You've got fantastic analysis videos that have been making me get back into Arcane. Man that show has no right being this good
@Toto-95
@Toto-95 2 года назад
another on point analysis
@ziachung4547
@ziachung4547 2 года назад
I love your analysis. Keep doing what you love!
@HurricaneMyles
@HurricaneMyles 2 года назад
I love this analysis of the characters. Keep up the good work!
@Sofia-ge6wm
@Sofia-ge6wm 2 года назад
This is possibly my favorite video you've ever made my favorite villain is Sevika I absolutely adore and this video is perfect!!!
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