SEX & CHASTITY - ZepTalk & Greek Lyre Music

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... In this discussion, I discuss my own experiences with the "chastity" ideology, which has its roots in celibate monasticism. There might be something here for you if you identify as religious or if you work as a priest, monk, friar, or nun.
Feeling Good?
My goal is to inspire the listener to have confidence in God and themselves. For those who practice religion, thinking about sex is problematic. The truth is that God intended for sex to be enjoyable. For those who abstain from sexual relations, having sex is a sin and a taboo in their closed societies. Their way of life and teachings may not be appropriate for the robust, mature, and healthy heterosexual.
Love and Pleasure?
The God of the Bible is thought to be an endless source of love and pleasure. Is he really this great disapproving moralist demanding his people to live austere lives? Christ did not say, "on Earth as it is in Hell," but rather, "on Earth as it is in Heaven." I think those who preach that God's "will" for us is to suffer, hurt, and be miserable in order to get into Heaven have a perverted purpose for spreading such false information. This is the monastic, sacrificial way of thought; but is this the way of Christ? Love and joy are taught in every way by the Gospels and the Letters. The apostle Paul warned against "vain and useless philosophies" that encourage devaluing oneself and treating the body harshly. He stated that kind of thinking amounts to nothing.
ZepTalk
This is a first of a series of "ZepTalk" coming out of a treatise in the making for years on certain behavioral philosophies I learned as a seminarian in Capuchin Franciscan Order. In it I review the origin and purpose of their philosophies in light of the simple and basic teachings of the Gospels.
Poverty, chastity and obedience - mandatory vows in the order
Since "Chastity" is a primary practice in monastic beliefs I ask the question, "What is the mental, physical and emotional state of those who prefer a lack of physical intimacy coupled with a deep sense of penitence, shame, guilt, worthlessness and insignificance? Is this a state of mind suitable for philosophies underpinning spiritual thinking and truth?
Is promoting pain and suffering among those of low self esteem and low self respect a religion of sadism and sadomasochism? Was not the religious institution known as the "Inquisition" the culmination of such a mentality in the Catholic Church. What part did the Franciscan Order play in this?
My Treatise
"The Convent - Celibacy, Sex and the Sacred", is written to demonstrate how God's healing hand operating through a team of devoted believers in the Convent's infirmary becomes a new standard for healing and sanctity that changes the prevailing philosophies in post plague Italy in 1452. I believe such a shift was a fundamentally spiritual prerequisite leading to a Renaissance in Europe. In short the Renaissance proved to be a "rebirth" of feeling good, and pleasure arising from medical research and practice grounded in nature, science and ethics. I postulate that it led the way to all other fields of human endeavor in the arts.
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Dedication:
I dedicate this to all who question the idea of how human sexuality is treated through religious and secular traditions. May love, life and truth emerge as a unified reality for personal transformation and renewal.
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26 ноя 2023

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@marineothmonk 8 месяцев назад

Good points! Thanks for sharing your experience. I do believe that grace is felt in life during acts of purity and chastity, for sacrifice is the greatest act of love. There are many types of love and sexual pleasure for self seeking individuals is psychological in nature. It can turn into narcissistic traits if gratified without restraint. There are merits to celibacy and marrying the Church. However, I at the same time I agree with everything you said. It really depends on the person and motivation.

@Jeseppi-Lyre 8 месяцев назад

Steven, thank you for your wise and heartfelt response. I agree also with what you said. May those merits you speak of be a blessing to you.

@tausif3k 8 месяцев назад

Hey Jeseppi, hope you're doing great. I loved hearing your thoughts sir! Very relatable. Although I am only 22, I went through very similar experience as yours. Since age of 13, I started to take the religion I inherited from my parents very seriously (on my own accord). Soon I became more religious or practicing than anyone else in my family and friends. And with that came suppressing my s3xuality at an early age. As a Sunni Muslim, I learned from clergy of my religion that a man should not even fully look/gaze at a woman except one time, and that any communication with unrelated females (women other than mother, sister, wife, daughter) should be done with minimum eye contact and looking at them should be avoided. So communicating with my female class fellows in school or having any female friends was totally out of the question. Including having any crushes, expressing my feelings to them or making them my girlfriend. I remember that I had female teachers from 7th grade, whose faces I cannot even recall. Simply because I would hardly look at them. And I suppressed my feelings towards this girl I had crush on. And, at that time I didn't even know how babies are made 😅😂 so the feelings towards that girl had nothing related to lust. Years went by and I realized how suppressing my s3xuality affected me. Unfortunately I can't go into details, but it is just not a good thing to do. Now that I'm a Monotheist who takes Quran as my source of guidance as well as Reason, intellect... after turning 18, I would say I started to live my feelings and stopped suppressing them. This was after leaving mainstream Sunni understanding of religion (which was extremely dogmatic) to becoming a Quran-only Monotheist & critical thinker. Suppressing s3xuality is against human nature and has extremely dire consequences. I cannot stress this enough. I felt your story really closely. I can only imagine how heartbroken you may had been because of this. But I disagree on one small thing. You said, these people don't know what it means to be intimate with another person.. maybe that is true for a lot of people but I refuse to believe that any sane, healthy human would exist who never had feelings of love and of attraction to s3xuality. Be it one's own, or others. So to me, all the people who suppress their desires are like a boiling pot which can blow up any moment. We have thousands of examples unfortunately of s3xual abuse from churches, monasteries, mosques, madrassahs, temples. Pastors, priests and imams all over the world, obviously not all.. but many.. commit such horrific acts towards their students (mostly teenagers or younger).... and the reason? There are a couple of them, but one of them is the one you highlighted today. No healthy individual can descend to such lengths of disgrace. This is why I am very anti-dogma now. And now I enjoy being friends with women, I enjoy s3xuality, even though I believe in staying chaste till marriage,... I think many people have exaggerated the cons of unguided s3xual experiences. Excess of anything is harmful. Anyways, this got too long as usual haha Happy to see you after long time. Take care & God bless

@Jeseppi-Lyre 8 месяцев назад

Dearest Tausif. So good to hear from you. It's been ages. Thank you so much for taking the time to express your ideas and feelings on this subject. Your words are an example of true sharing, and I am certain it will be a help and blessing to those who read it. ... The idea of "not having known intimacy" relates to those who have taken the vow of chastity who have never, and will never marry. It is true that although they have never had physical intimacy, they do long for it while living in the bondage of guilt and shame since they are taught never to even think on such things lest they become impure defiling themselves with sinful thoughts. [I did not intend to include those heterosexuals who are in a chaste mindset prior to marriage. But, considering the degree of inhibition, I can now understand now why women are treated as they are in highly dogmatized communities]. ... Let me say once again that your testimony will be liberating to many. "Natural" is not an evil thing but made by God to enjoy, nurture in, and sustain his Creation. I think this is the idea that caused you and I to research Oktar. I still am uncertain if he was guilty as stated on the grounds of many of the things you have mentioned. This puts human sexuality into a completely different mindset than I had ever though within the community he was attempting to liberate. You be blessed, and please feel free to share your thoughts whenever you feel so inspired. Mashallah!! ... Jeseppi