Soft White Underbelly interview and portrait of Clover, a fentanyl addict on Skid Row. For ad-free, uncensored versions of SWU videos, as well as some exclusive videos please subscribe to: / softwhiteunderbelly
@@parisa5014 you’re not alone. I don’t know how to make peace with it because my heart truly aches for these kids. I stay vigilant and if I see something out of place, I check on the child.
@@annoyingkid1993 I agree it makes me very sad. Especially at the weak/authoritarian personality types that make up the majority and allow this injustice to continue. People like us could scream from the rooftops and we are the ones who get vilified... Why!? It's eerily similar to the teachings of the bible
When I was 11, my Dad had died. A few months later, my Mom would make me drink a liquor after dinner and then she would have men that she had wrangled earlier when I was at school, come into my bedroom and molest me in the evening. She would sit in the kitchen and play solitaire while it was going on. I would get slapped around and such for 'not doing it right' and told-off for not having breasts yet. After the last one was done, they would go out drinking and dancing. I quickly learned not to 'complain'. Her rational was that this needed to go on to 'pay the taxes' on our house. After awhile I was mostly in a fugue state, so she was happy to not have to spend money on the booze anymore to make me compliant. Trying to act normal and go to school was very hard. I had a lot of bladder infections and pelvic pain and STD's. As an adult, I spent many years in therapy. Now I am almost 70 years old and it all still haunts me...the PTSD terrors. I still sleep walk...trying to get away from the terrors of the Past. I have two daughters and six grandsons and two great-granddaughters and it is unimaginable to me to ever consider that horrific abuse as being a way 'to pay the taxes'.
I cant get my head around the fact that there are so many people who are willing to destroy another human being for money or there own sexual gratification. My heart breaks for this lady. It's obvious she was abducted as a baby, and this is how they end up if they survive.
I wonder where that rabbit hole starts. I'd like to expose every one of these traffickers and child molesters. Special place in hell for these evil creatures.
My heart breaks for these abuse victims. I can't even fathom. How can people be so cruel. So horrible, to a child. These people shouldn't be allowed to live.
She wasn't sexually open when she was little, or attracted to older men: she was sexualised from early and groomed into behaviour that is not normal for a child. My heart breaks for her. From a fellow survivor : you're so strong. Thank you for speaking up.
I was trafficked for multiple years and all I can say is her spirit is resilient and that is why we survived. Because our hope couldn't be stolen. Clover, I see you. I hear you. I believe you.
Ignorant people...her pain is real and so is her sad story 😔. Clover, Sweetheart l have no words. I wish with my whole heart that life has beautiful things in store you so deserve.
@14:11 “have you been in love before?” Her sheer confusion and surprise to the question is heartbreaking. She’s never been given a chance to experience the feeling.
The moment she said they spread her legs too far apart that her tendons broke...that got me...this woman is so strong...I honestly wish her nothing but good for the rest of her existence on earth...felt so bad for her for everything she's been through..people who traffic kids...and hurt them....deplorable...
@@ilyabykov2437 why bring god into this, as if he isn’t the one who permits all of this. and DO NOT say you can’t live freely without free will, or that god knows what we don’t. i would rather not exist at all, than be apart of this depraved world that is sometimes beautiful
@@ilyabykov2437 I'm "Atheist" but I absolutely wish that hell was real for people like sex traffickers. It's fucking disgusting that sex trafficking even happens to people and that people would want to do that. I have a harder time with a world that doesn't have an afterlife than one that does because there are so many people that deserve to be in hell for abusing other people.
In her moments of need, everyone let her down. The people making comments that she's lieing after only listening to her experiences for 26 mins, you are all exactly like those employees in the hotel and the taxi driver: Useless. She's pouring out her soul with no inhibitions and you deny her experiences and deafen your ears to the truth. Clover, as you know the world is full of victimizers but there is also a world full of empathic and caring people who listen and help victims to become well. You have the right to a happy and healthy life like the rest of humanity does. You are not exempt. God Bless you, I wish you well and healing.
People are kinda dumb for saying she didn't star in the horror movies, she's not saying she was the protagonist, she was probably just an extra, how is this so hard to understand? Besides, not all movies are Hollywood-level..
Exactly! Very well said. It’s sad to see such a lack of compassion in the comment section for the people in these interviews. Usually, most comments aren’t negative but the few that are, it pains me to read them. Even if she is lying, give her the benefit of the doubt. She deserves hope, love and humanity just the same way we do
Amen to you all people make me so sick when they judge people. They wanna deny the truth and doubt what people have been through. I pray for all those that have been wronged in this cruel world.
100% by far my most interested story but so devastated the evil some people endure almost their whole life and don't get the come back story of life giving back for all the horror they face 💔❤️🩹
I was relieved to hear that even though Clover was abused as a child, she did not pass on that generational abuse to her own sons. She speaks lovingly of her (now young adult) sons that she raised, and it sounds like she raised them well. They have love for their mom and I hope that she always has them in her life.
Me too. I hate when People use that as an excuse. She knew it was wrong and she loves her kids. Could you imagine what her life would be like if she was born/give to a good family. She might have a husband, house, good job…the American dream. 💔🥺
Right, but she didn’t seem to raise them. She said she did, but then she said she gave their dads custody. What mom who raised her sons would just give them to their dads?
@@mama.ashley I've been sexually abused as a child and was in a support group with several women who experienced the same. One thing that we all had in common was running away. One woman left her cat, her fiance and backpacked the US for 10 years. The other moved two countries until coming to Canada. Another continually travelled. Freedom is very important to those who have experienced that kind of trauma because they were abused in spaces they couldn't escape. That's likely why she needs to be free. She did it responsibly and as long as all are happy in the situation.
I was trafficked by my mother starting at age 3. Sometimes I was drugged and sometimes I was not. I often think about the other little kids that where with me and wonder how their lives turned out. The first memory I have was me and 5-6 other little girls sitting on a pool table with money all around us. Now I realize we were being auctioned off. I was 3-4 years old. I lived that live until I was 12 and then got emancipated at 14. I am thankful for my life now and I am so blessed to be able to help women in who are still on the streets or in the adult industry still. I have been out of the adult industry for 7.5 years. I hope she one days finds peace. If people truly knew how often this happens even now they would be floored
My heart aches for Clover so bad. It's so horrific what she's been through, yet she still has this beautiful soul shining through. I hope she's able to get the help that she needs to get and stay clean and deal with all of the terrible trauma she's faced.
This story has disturbed me so much. I can't shake the feeling of what it feels like when a sickly repressed memory comes to the surface. Like staring at a foreign object that came out of your body. Nauseating and fascinating at the same time. My heart goes out to you Clover.
If he'll doesn't exist where you can find judge and righteousness to Clover and million of clovers in the world. God bless you Clover. Enjoy the life that can take you now. You are my hero
I've repressed memories come back. And it was like my body was screaming no inside as they came back and I tensed up and I felt nauseated and shaky after. And those memories weren't even as bad as the ones I'm still waiting on to heal myself. I didn't know hypnotherapy could help. Thanks to her and her story I'm going to try it
This is so true. These illegal adoptions for sex trafficking were going on a lot in the 70's and 80's. This poor woman has been through hell. There are some evil people in this world.
Oh my god this might be one of the strongest women I've ever seen. The amount of complete and utter fucked up shit she's been through yet still manages to be such a beautiful being inside and out is beyond me. I really really hope she'll be okay.
If the one of the "strongest women you've ever seen" is a strung out fentanyl addict, then you don't know the meaning of "strong" !! 😂 Drug addicts, while they are addicted, are the polar opposite of "strong".
@@geetalks lmaoo I was referring to the way she carries herself after having lived a fucked up life like that. Leaving your comment coming from another woman, gotta admit I'm kinda disappointed at how you undermined the shit she's been through just because shes a drug addict. Kinda low 🤷🏻♀️
I don’t blame this woman for her drug addiction. She was drugged a lot as a child & that, even tho it was sadistic as shit, helped her not be awake for those atrocities. She’s used to using drugs to shut out those memories & emotions. This was rough to listen to but I wish her the absolute best for the rest of her life & I hope that she eventually finds sobriety & stability. What a wonderful woman with a resilient spirit. She should have never endured this absolute nightmare of a childhood
One of the best interviews on this channel. This woman seems like such a kind, intelligent, self-aware person. It’s horrible what she had to go through
This is the story that hollywood would never dare tell , the true horror stories that these children and young women go thru needs to have a bright light put on it. My heart breaks
tHIS IS NOT ONLY WOMEN.....MEN/BOYS/CHILDREN ARE ALSO STOLEN AND SOLD FOR THE SEX TRADE. How anyone can do this to children is beyond me and I just cannot get my head around it. I look at my two children and wonder...what the hell would I do if either of them were ever taken? I know what I WOULD DO TO ANYONE WHO TRIED TO TAKE THEM, HOWEVER. (AND NORMALLY DEATH IS FOREIGN TO ME...other than natural death) This would not be normal, however.
I know her. The last time I saw her was about four years ago at a Dead Cross show. I don't know anything regarding her childhood or about the needles in her arms, but she's definitely telling the truth about everything else. Clover/Lori wouldn't harm a fly. Seeing her here breaks my heart. Please do a follow up on her.
I did wonder about the use of hypnosis to access the repressed memories. But it would mean that her recollection of events wouldn't be believed or admissable in court.
Very sad. People are saying it’s not true. Those are the ones who let this stuff happen. That’s the problem we are having. Nobody thinks this stuff happens. Please let her know we are wishing her the very best.
As a man is infuriates me and fills me with disgust the things we do and are capable of doing.This poor soul suffered so much I hope she finds her peace.
This was a rough one. I could honestly feel her pain & trauma. Nothing that happened to her as a child is her fault. She’s a survivor. She’s a warrior. She’s proven she’s just going to keep going & all she needs is her cat. I hope she finds someone she can trust & they are good to her. Or she is completely content with being alone. Whatever it may be, I just hope her future doesn’t include anymore pain, suffering & trauma. She’s an amazing woman.
Right. This woman has shown she has a will to make it. I hope she can find some happiness and a life away from fentanyl. Drugs make even the darkest moments darker.
Her soul comes out in her voice. It feels like she is swallowing all her tears all the time. If you see this, you are super strong and brave. I wish you all the best to better you and your situation. I am sorry you have had to deal and live such hurt and abuse.
this is absolutely the most upsetting one I've seen so far. I've seen a lot of these videos but her story is just so terrifying. I cannot even finish watching this in one sitting. This poor baby.
@@sj9410 Her voice was like that when she was in her 20's. I didn't recognize her in the thumbnail and wasn't paying attention when I first played the video. When I heard her voice, I knew it sounded familiar.
@@realitycheck1092 She was a cocktail waitress at places I used to hang out. We had mutual acquaintances. She was always 'out there' even without drugs, but is really smart. She was always kind. She was popular and people really liked her.
😢 this hits me in the chest like a truck doing 100. Out of all your interviews mark this is the one that broke me. I hope this woman gets the love she truly deserves. I’m speechless.
People can be so cruel and feel no empathy but that’s sad for them to be like that honestly. This woman although maybe doesn’t remember things exactly as they were knows how bad her childhood was and I think that’s enough to feel for her. Those people saying horrible things have no soul so it’s best to ignore them. I don’t understand why it’s so important for her story to be 💯 accurate like tf I don’t even remember what I did last week exactly but I can retell important parts about my week. Sheesh , this woman is talking about her trauma and people are mad? It’s behind my comprehension
@@Hcfungfuikbgdhhh many who have had traumatic experiences with narcissists have seen paranormal things happen. I've heard the black eyes things many times. There are a lot of strange things in this reality that people don't want to acknowledge. Perhaps her ability to see is better than that of others. That's true of many survivors.
Clover’s story is actually pretty common... there are soo many people that can recall being woke in the middle of the night and taken to these gatherings in which horrendous things would happen: being trafficked, sexually abused, sacrifices, rituals, etc. These people hurt children and it’s still happening to this day. Where are all the missing children? Who will care for the abandoned? Orphaned? Disabled?
There was a documentary on A&E about this. One was about modern day cults and another about polygamy. I wonder why people don’t believe this stuff is real after all the women coming out and saying it happen to them.
Yeah the scary part about it is due to the fact it's done by people who are most likely rich and off high status. Who can afford these type of things pretty sure it must get pretty expensive trafficking all these innocent people. That's the real scary part you know kinda like that movie eyes wide shut.
I've heard many stories at this point. There's a RU-vid channel I believe John Wedger ( we don't see eye to eye on politics so I ignore that). Anyway discusses SRA and you can find a document linked, a list by a UK psychologist who deals with SRA victims and she will only add names to this list that have been verified by two or more independent sources. On that list you'll find 'care homes' (orphanages basically), schools affiliated with the royal family in the UK and Canada, police, lawyers, politicians etc. Makes it much easier to understand how these seemingly impossible things are going on right under people's noses.
I was just referring to the part were tom cruise went to the mansion orgy party. And they had all these women that were clearly bought as prostitutes. Also when they found out who he was they tried to sexually assault him because everyone knew he wasn't suppose to be there. His friend even told him that he was there and saw him, and told him if I told you the people that were attending you wouldn't be able to sleep. Which means these are people of high status maybe even in politics.
"Have you ever been in love? No, I don't know what that is." Damn, that hurt. She's such a gentle soul and it's clearly natural, not an act. I'm glad she has her sons and I hope they take care of her when they're grown. She deserves peace, love and support.
I couldn’t even watch this whole video her story is so traumatizing that I can actually feel her hurt in her voice. I just broke out in prayer. I Pray that GOD bless her with someone that can show her a more loving and peaceful life.
How do you stay loving life? Sometimes it feels like the devil is winning... Badly in today's world .. what to do? I feel so disappointed in most of the people around me today. I feel lost.
@@parisa5014 ur not alone. Concentrate on the Good, the True & the beautiful which still exist, mostly in the natural things; & pray without ceasing. We're in a time of great division & judgment. Check ou the ebiblefellowship channel, here on RU-vid.
This is so true I'm an Irish Catholic and they absolutely adopted babies out this way. This wad standard procedure. To the highest bidder and especially Americans. She's a lovely lady who went through so much.
@Meow🐈 no actually it was all about how much the Catholic church could make off selling each child. Please do your research there are documentaries or newspaper articles into catholic mother and babies homes and what the women and children suffered.
She has a light in her, she has a good hearth, and I wish her the best forever. She went through a lot, and she is still a good person. I hope she stays safe and happy with her cat.
I’ve been watching this channel for a while now and this really puts into perspective what happens and makes me cry. This could have happened to me to anyone. God bless her❤
I’ve been studying this kind of crime for years. It happens so often and everything she is saying is unfortunately -absolutely true. She is a survivor of some of the most horrific things imaginable. I’m so sorry you went thru so much Clover. You were robbed of your childhood and I believe you, I know this is real. You are worthy of a brighter future than what you were given as a child and I wish you all the peace in the world!!
I watched the Tyler Henry show on Netflix and it talked about his mom being taken by a lady. And she was heavily in the church and used the church to get foster kids that she totally abused and neglected
I agree, many of the things she talked about I've heard before with children being born for the sole purpose of trafficking them and using MkUltra and SRA as mind control. She strongly reminds me of someone famous, perhaps it's Winona Ryder?
The human species has the capacity to be the cruellest imaginable....we are truly despicable at times. I work with dogs for a living and they don't treat each other as barbarically as we choose to. I really appreciate these interviews and send warmest of thoughts to Clover. How are you doing Clover?
There are other animals that do these types of things(obviously not for money or gain), humans are not the only species who even rape to death or kill just to kill.
@@chel9064 True. We are indeed just another species of animal, the only difference is that we wear clothes. We are also the most dangerous by a long shot.
Wow I really hope there is an update to Clover (and Cujo's) story. She has held on to a great heart despite the trauma she has experienced. Wishing her the best. Thanks again Mark and Soft White Underbelly
To study our emotions is the most therapeutic thing we can do for ourselves, it's where our lessons are. I ran from mine for almost 40 years (my childhood wasn't THIS tragic but still had plenty of trauma) & once I stopped & started paying attention, things got easier.
I really didn’t want this interview to end, I love her so much, you could tell that she’s a lovely person through this interview, there’s just something about her........I wish you the best clover I love you ❤️
Exactly how I felt. Something so genuine about her. So honest that you cannot help but love her. Crushing to hear her life. I wish we could replace that feeling with our love.
Of course she's scared of people ; from birth, every adult has abused her! God, this is heartbreaking. I think we sometimes forget how fortunate we are.
I honestly never knew this kind of thing happened. It’s just so heartbreaking. Ive learned a lot from these interviews. It’s crazy to think that such evil walks among us.
I know someone who was trafficked by her dad who was a high upper in navel intelligence. These things really happen. Some are so destroyed they never get out or speak about it. Clover is a beautiful soul and the dark evil attempted to snuff her out. I wish you well Clover. You are amazingly strong. It's awesome you did this interview. If everyone does something then the secret of human trafficking will be no more. It's only a matter of time
A very intelligent woman. She may be the most resilient person that you've interviewed. Her stories had a ring of truth to them- I don't think she was making anything up. She has been through mortal hell her entire life but is still hanging in there, very cognizant even though addicted to fentanyl. She could have done great things if given half a chance. Clover you're a beautiful survivor!
She might believe her story but that doesn't make it true. It's terrifying how gullible people are. Qanon was completely made up by trolls on 4Chan and people eat that shit up for some reason.
@@SB-uw3fe you sound like one of the assholes that's doing this shit to these women, why would you even think about saying some shit like that. You need fukn help, i bet you let your dog lick peanut butter off your feet dont you. Think about what you say and how it effects other ppl bfor you say some dumb shit like that again,
My impression is that some of it is delusional thinking. Like the last guy "for 7 years" was drugging her and sticking needles deep into her body. She's mentally ill on some levels.
@@mallorymcguire833 who gives a fuck if she’s lying about some of it. that fact that ANY of this shit happened to her is unfucking-believable. id love for you and this other prick in the comments to deal with 2% of this shit she’s talking about smh.
Her speaking on depression being "empty" is spot on. I do the same thing, where I try to find the source, but true depression doesn't have a source. It's just this big, heavy cloud that exists for no good reason.
Dissociation? I try to chase my anxiety although paranoid it usually leads me to something I can be aware of to improve or be more careful efficient and more conscious
The cure for that is to fill that void with whatever makes you happy or inspired, if you don’t have anything you have to find it. It’s hard for many to find passion.
This interview was 2 years ago and I would like to know how she is doing. Regardless, I have prayed for a hedge of protection around her and will continue to pray for Clover daily as she deserves it! Bless her sweet soul! Clover is a very intelligent woman and I understand why she is happiest being alone! Blessings to you sweet woman!
Poor woman has been through so much horrific stuff in her life and despite this she seems like such a lovely, down to earth kind natured person. Just shows how strong and beautiful a soul she really is. I wish nothing but the best for her future
Two of my earliest memories: My very first pelvic exam (due to SA) when I was roughly 2yrs old. The other one is me running around a cheap motel room initially in my underwear and quickly I became fully nude thanks to my mom. She was laughing and playing with me while a man was taking pictures of me with an old Polaroid camera. My mom kept some of the pictures. I have no idea why. She was paid by that man to take nude photos of me at 2-3yr old. These are some of the memories I carry. I believe everything she’s saying. It happens every day.
I hope you’ve been able to have a beautiful life despite this horrible memories you have. I am so sorry. I have terrible memories but no SA that I can remember
This happens every day. Trafficking is a multi BILLION DOLLAR industry. Some who are trafficked are gifted and used for special "operations". Operations used to force silence on those in positions of power. Power given to them by those on the highest level. Human trafficking must be spoken about more and more by women like Clover. I admire her courage and struggle.
YES this does happen but people are to lazy and just ignore it due to their comfortable life style...look at epstien once the media stopped talking about it people just forget
Yes you are right , I know all about it... I’ve made it a point to read and research everything there is to know about these things... MK Ultra and such
@@kylieeeramirez7838 holy shit we have the same last name! And for me digging really deep into these things about a decade ago made me so mentally anguished I couldn't sleep and often felt lethargic but I couldn't help but dig dig dig! It's truly awful what happens to people particularly children in this world and I think the most depressing thing for me was the total lack of awareness everyone seemed to have about it all. A couple years back right before the big C it seemed like people were actually starting to talk about things and it looked like there might even be hope for change but now I don't hear anything and I know there's tons of children that need to be rescued so what's up!!
Actually speechless 🥺. There’s some evil people out there. I’m glad she’s got herself an RV and cat and prefers to keep to herself, so protecting herself from this cruel world. I think she needs to reach out to her biological family. This is where her healing could begin but I can quite understand her not wanting to risk being hurt by them also. I wish her peace and love and most of all protection ♥️
It's visible how even tho she's one of the wisest and most life-experienced people any of us will ever meet - the little child within her just wants to break free. Her lost childhood left her in a sort of innocent state. The shy smile, the way she's able to discuss such horrifying experiences while staying so calm and sane - as if she still doesn't fully acknowledge the things she's went through. I want to hug her so bad. She needs to be wrapped in affection and care. Such a sweetheart, how do such kind people end up in such fucked up situations??
Her shoulders up to her ears, shows how scared and on guard shes had to be her entire life. She’s brilliant! Such a beautiful soul, I hope she can let it all go and find genuine relief and true happiness!! 💛
She keeps trying to laugh her pain off which shows how much PTSD she truly has. I had to pause this a few times because it was too much to stomach... What an incredible woman. I wish her so much peace and happiness and I hope she has resources for her trauma...
The way she reacted to the question about ever being in love. Wow. She said the closest was her kids. These people Mark interviews never had a chance. She was blessed with the decisions about how she raised her sons. She is amazing in my eyes.
It’s horrifying how children are abused. The spirit is shattered after going through such abuse. Clover is special that she’s come through functioning. Praying for her❤️
@@lilmule9576 Nobody Is Gonna G.A.F. About A Single Thing You Spout About In Attempts To Undermine Another's Integrity & Character If All You Have To Say Is "None Of This Happened"...Come Correct & Represent The Initial "Facts" (If You Even Possess Them In The First Place) & State The Reasoning & Validity Behind Your Claim, Along With Evidentiary Support To Back Said Claim. Otherwise You Just Look Like A Presumptuous Tool With Low Self-Esteem/No Sense Of Self That Externalizes/Projects That Lack Into Ad-Hominem & Character Attacks Rather Than Internalizing/Introspecting & Doing The Self-Work Necessary To Be A Better Version Of Self & Moving Up In The World To Meet Other's Who Have Achieved A High Level Mentality/ Frequency Of Being As Opposed To Trying To Drag Others Down To Be At Ground Level With You So You Could Have Them Accompany You To Dwell In Misery Because You'd Rather Be Intellectually Lazy Than To Apply Yourself In An Effort To Better/Benefit Your Surroundings,The Lives Of Those Around You & Most Noteworthy; To Better/Benefit Yourself & Achieve A State Of Growth Adverse To Operating In Stagnancy & Bitterness.
I wonder where the adoptive “mother” is…I hope she met her karma and gets hurt the way she hurt clover and probably other children. I hope clover can get help…she seems very spiritual and wants a life of peace.
Interesting remark. I believe in past lifes and maybe clovers story is the karma. Maybe she had to go through this because she was the one that hurt this woman in a past life. Hopefully the score is settled now.
I was left speechless to hear what she went through. How is it possible people could be so cruel and egomaniac to do such things to her, as a child as well as an adult.
i keep coming back to these interviews. they make me so emotional. all i can think of after hearing stories like this one is that truly, life *is* unfair.
This is my favorite story of the ones I’ve watched so far. Everything she’s been through in life has been horrific, but she’s extremely resilient and has a kind, gentle soul. I admire you so much Clover.
Wow. How impactful. This woman is incredible. From all that she has been through. Her energy shines strong. All my love to her. Could you possibly do an update video on her???
A very sad and harrowing account of a truly tragic story... My heart goes out to this brave and courageous lady whose burden of trauma has been carried throughout her life and cultivated in the most heart-breaking and abhorrent way💔 I resonant with her need for solitude and wish Clover a great deal of healing, compassion and loving kindness❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤍 May your future be filled with hope, prosperity and many happy RV adventures🌈
I've been exploited sexually many times in my life and it hurts my soul that she had to go through this on such a systemic level. She's so fucking strong. I hope she's doing ok and that she'll find a way to quit drugs or at least the most harmful ones.
We live in such a depraved world. Be careful how you treat others. You never know another person’s story. Commit to leaving this earth and it’s inhabitants a better place, not a worse place. Much love and healing to you, Clover!
This is the third video in a row when the most important lesson they've learned in life is to never trust anyone, and I can't blame any of these people for feeling that way. Dang.
Probably one of the most eye-opening interviews. I can’t believe such horrendous things have happened to her and she’s still here with such a kind demeanor. I wish her all the best and that she can get those needles out. I hope that those who have hurt her rot for their actions. EDIT: The amount of people denying her story is appalling. I am so happy for everyone that won’t believe her because your life has been so good and full of love that you can’t even comprehend the evil that is in this world. Maybe her story is not true. Maybe her story is exaggerated. But this woman has been hurt, and that’s all that matters. Stop thinking that apathy is an admirable trait to possess.
@@tomkeppler1717 You’re very welcome. But no one is talking about that part of her. No one is denying that she has probably done some bad things. You have probably done some less than desirable stuff. We all have. She is a human that deserves compassion. Just like you. There is no need for me to be cordial with you, yet I have been nothing but kind. You, on the other hand, are calling me crazy and delusional. So I will stop being kind. I think what’s funnier than the needles is you thinking anyone wants to hear what you have to say. Goodbye!
I truly believe everything clover is saying.. this woman has been through hell and back time and time again. She is a warrior and I wish her all the best in this world and beyond. She deserves happiness
This is my 3rd time listening to your story Clover over the past weekend. Truely heartbreaking and I don't have words enough to say how sorry l am to hear of your experience. You are remarkably brave and courageous to share here and you may have no idea how many other survivors of abuse and trafficking you are touching. You have touched me and your story has reminded me of children l met as a child and to this day,l have no idea what happened to them. I remember what happened to some who l gave names to because I never knew their real names and none of them survived and on my healing journey,l needed to give them names. Some of the children l met and babies l believe we're from these homes that were supposed to care and protect but sadly easily accessible for trafficking and for child pornography and the snuff industry which some people want to believe doesn't exist,it absolutely does. I wish you all the very best Clover and l hope you do a follow up interview.Sending you lots of love.❤
Aw Clover, I hope you find your happiness, your contentment. Your story is heartbreaking and I am sorry you are left with the pieces. You deserve to love and be loved unconditionally, you deserve to be cared for, you deserve trust, loyalty and safety. I hope where ever you are now, you are safe and/or in good company. Underneath all the trauma there is a beacon of light untouched by trauma, just know that even if you cant see it or feel it, it manifests itself in how you express yourself. Sending so much love your way, thank you for sharing your story. Xxx
These illegal adoptions were so common place in the 50's and 60's. Anyone who wanted a newborn infant and could pay for it easily got a baby. The biological parents were told their baby died during childbirth. Many doctors were the ones selling these babies. So very sad:( ✌🌷
Also the babies of unwed mothers some who believed their babies were going to loving homes, either through an organization or brokered solo. I don't know how people are doubting this. Look at what happens even today with state approved foster homes, group homes and reform camps.
The pain in my heart I feel for this poor girl. The moment I heard they pulled her legs so far apart that her tendons broke, I just busted out in tears. I hope she can find healing.
I am a victim of sexual abuse as a child. I am not going to lie when I say, it ruiined me. I would be a better person if that never happened to me. I will never ever be normal. I will always be haunted by nightmares and scared for the rest of my life. A lot of people tell me what happened to me makes me really strong and that I am a survivor because a lot of people would have ended their life if they were in my shoes. I do not want to be the strong person from my experience. I just wish they never happened. I will never get my childhood back. I will never get to experience what happy families have experienced. The only thing I can do now is make sure my daughter never EVER goes through what I went through and give her the life I never got.
Im so glad I watched this episode. I wasnt sure if itd be too triggering for me but Im so impressed and in awe of this woman. Shes living proof that the people who suffer the most end up being the kindest people...they never want to make other people feel the way they felt so they go above and beyond but sometimes they unfortunately sacrifice parts of themselves they cant get back in the process, whether by choice or unknowingly. She is calm, intelligent, well spoken and still has a bright light in her eyes that becomes extra apparent when she talks about her boys. She has protected, nurtured and loved her boys the way she deserved to be loved. Bless her. She deserved so much better.
I appreciate how you've titled this Mark. Well done. "Family dysfunction rolls down from generation to generation, like a fire in the woods, taking down everything in its path until one person in one generation has the courage to turn and face the flames. That person brings peace to their ancestors and spares the children that follow." - T Real Be a firefighter. Love your children unconditionally. 🔥
For Clover and the victims on the comments: Guys, i'm really, really, really sorry, but I admire you A LOT. And Mark, I really appreciate this channel because ... It's the perfect place for healing, sharing love, and learn. I'm truly spechlees but, even if it's hard, this is like the gasoline for me to continue helping people, and I'm not going to stop.
God bless you Mark for posting these videos. I agree with you that the world needs to what's going on with people that are considered "different and homeless." I often try to help people on the street and it breaks my heart to see or hear of anyone who suffers or is in pain. I am so glad that you are doing this project. I have prayed for some of the people on here and I have written down their names to remember them better. If I can do anything to make your project better, please , please let me know. God bless you in all your efforts Mark.
You can tell what a good soul Clover has, even through everything. The wry smile in her portrait Mark took- he captured her bright eyes and her smile, even if it was just for a moment. She seems tough as nails, but I will sincerely hope for her safety and for her darling cat. I often go looking for four leaf clovers, and I’ll be sending some luck her way.
I'm so amazed by the decisions she took in her sons lives. Keeping them shielded from the parts she knew she was struggling with in life and did'nt want to pass on to her sons. To me it shows amazing discipline, and love for her children. I hope she will find what she wants in life and hopefully she gets to enjoy the love her sons must have for her
Clover I'm so sorry for your pain and everything that hurt you. This interview really touched my soul. It seems you are so faithful and kind despite everything you have been through. I truly hope you find some peace.❤❤❤
I am an adult male with kids and my heart breaks for this woman and anyone that has had to deal with this horror. In an age where so many profess to be warriors for justice; I don't think we could ever do enough to protect our children.
My heart breaks listening to this woman. Her life began in trauma. She has known no love but is still so strong and self aware. Still such a good mother as far as acknowledging and allowing the fathers to take care of her children. Sometimes the hardest life builds the absolute strongest people and it never ceases to amaze and humble me.
You can tell she went through hell but still she’s such a kind soul! I wish her all the best I hope she’ll overcome her addiction one day bc she seems to have a lot of potential to do better.
by far my favorite interview as i binge watch your channel. clover is a BEAUTIFUL HUMAN BEING 💕 that her heart could survive what she has endured is a testament to her incredible character. godspeed, clover. may the rest of your days be full of the gifts of love and abundance you were robbed of having as a child.
Multiple thoughts come into my mind. The first one is that you Clover are a warrior. You deserve to be happy for all that you went through and I hope that the remaining life you have is at peace and happy. The second is why anybody that was around her as a child did not do anything to protect her. Sending the best energy to you Clover. You deserve nothing but that love that you need.
Clover, I'm so sorry for what you've endured. Thank you so much for being so transparent. You have a gift beneath those stories that have touched and will continue to touch so many of us. I will be lifting up warrior prayers for every child and animal, and elderly person who is being trafficked and hurt. Innocent people will always be a part of my prayers for protection. Stay strong, girl. You got this.
Amanda's death effected me so much I had to talk to my therapist and told her story, and as we are in video session he looked Mark up on here and is looking at Amanda's and others stories, and told him how awesome Mark is, Thank you Mark, I wish you could hear my story, Hugs to everyone,
I hope your therapist is teaching you effective ways to cope with your empathy- stories like these can impact me greatly, too, and it’s been useful to talk about what empathy can mean- how it can be a positive, and sometimes tricky thing.
"I can't pinpoint where the root of the sadness is?" Are you kidding me?! What a complete loss of life from the barely birth into this world and one of the most tragic stories I have heard, where a life just breathing but not truly living is the most tragic tale missing out on true love and the beauty of the world has to offer without believing what you deserve in your years left. I always tell my clients that a survivor giving life a second chance not resulting in shutting relationships or the world out by being isolated and life long alone by not giving permission for any previous inhumane treatment or callous people to take away your self worth by living a close to normal life again, while victimization and grooming is the aloneness and isolation shutting yourself out from others is what the abusers want and is all about. You deserve more, but am impressed in you even being alive to share this story.