SF6 Pros HATING on Leffen for 7 Minutes! 

Man leffen playing happy chaos feel so in character for him

He’s nowhere near as bad as DSP or LTG

@@AntLeonardi01that I agree but his toxic level is not about “you win because you are bad” but more like complaining about character and the game design as well as just mocking other players

@@waxcutter9813 you walk and block until guile in corner. He’s also playing Juri with a Low fireball that can challenge or force guile to block or jump.

@@waxcutter9813 As a Marisa player, outside of mainly blocking/perfect parry can superman punch over them or use Scutum to not only counter the sonic boom but move closer to Guile.

He should’ve put his finger over his mouth like MJ 😅

The crowd actually went mild it was so perfect

@@superbones5000 do you have a video? I can’t find anything to back up your claims

​@@hands-ongaming7180maybe twitch? Idk if evo saves its vods but it did happen for sure

​@@hands-ongaming7180ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CL3UWyuLwaQ.htmlm55s

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"You cant do booms thats cheating!" "I only have 2 special moves--" "I SAID NO BOOMS!!"

Or LTG. Leffen can say some heinous shit and get away with far more than LTG can.

Ackackackackackackack

not really they have totally different personalities, leffen is anatycal introvert while dsp is just a random noob

Lmao he's cold

​@@soki3005wasnt dsp a top sf player back then

acts like it too

@@JayDayKayat least when xqc malds it’s funny, Leffen just looks depressed

At least xqc is likeable to some degree

When you win, and you know its not right, its not fun. Like when you cringe at yourself or you know "this is kinda gross that I'm doing this" but you keep doing it lol

​@@atkaschaI don't think it has anything to do with that. we don't know his mind but he gives off the impression of being very unhappy, he gets bent out of shape over everything. sajam once said every leffen tweet is like a despairing letter from a 19th century explorer or someone in a war.

​@@atkaschathat definitely has nothing to do with winning but how are you winning. Gross to win? Makes no sense to me whatsoever.

@@DRPenha have you ever played someone in anything, where you know you'd win, easily. sports, games, whatever. then imagine a whole crowd section pops off when you win. there's trophies, music, confetti. it wouldn't be fun. i played college soccer and half of the team i was on in high school went to play in college, 1 kid played pro in division 3 england, and there were times in high school where we'd win 9 or 10 to 0. after a while you just feel bad for scoring goals. that's the "gross" feeling i'm talking about.

Its hard to be happy when you have no friends

Just needed him to go, "My b," when he was getting interviewed. Ha ha ha!

What'd Leffen do to get a Fleet Admiral on his ass? (j/k)

​@@writinggoose6059he played happy chaos, even for celestial dragons that's a step too far

😂

fucking facts

for sure home boy brings it on himself, comes to a new game entering a new community and just immediately starts acting arrogant as fuck about it, when he was jumping into tekken he played for like 6 months then youd see him on stream arguing with like VETERAN veteran players about the game like bro you just got here sit down lmao seems like he kinda doing the same thing here

It's called "shutting up the home crowd"

THIS

Everyone is an overstatement. I love LEFF

@@plasticbudgie I’m sorry to hear that

@@plasticbudgie air time limit lol

@@felipecanadulce If Leffen was revolutionizing renewable energy or curing cancer I could totally get over him being an asshole. What's crazy to me is that Leffen plays videogames for a living and can't muster up the strength to be kind. He stopped being a villain the second he took his toxicity outside of the game.

@@plasticbudgie I feel so bad for you.

Booo that shit was wack af and dont make sense

Where y’all get this goofy stuff from? That joke was dog 💩

Lol

lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

@@icyhot5587 Lol, someone's feelings are hurt😂

If melee was sane they would have just banned him, but no instead they banned hax for calling him out

​@@dukecherry5169they banned him for a year tho

As a fan of both of FGC and Melee, this is the funniest irl crossover

​@@dukecherry5169This the same community that let's pedos Scott free are you surprised they let that man in when he's done way worse

@@SamX.Oit was an indefinite ban, that after 2 or 3 years, turned into a permanent ban, because apart of that ban was that he wasn’t allowed to talk about the ban

He is amine protag

​@@OniLink977more like a mc rival

dude that cringe ass pose he was doing when the stage doors opened. Yeeeeesh

are you describid snake eyes or punk right now?

@@arthurgadelha9430 leffen…

Imean arc sys has a history of having questionable balance patches so i wont be surprised if they dont nerf him

They nerfed him some already it just wasn't enough so he's getting a handful next patch I belive

Good luck on that one. Arcsys likes to nerf top tier characters into the top tier.

Strive is just a garbage game tbh

@@Johngreggor99 he’s already confirmed to be nerfed, plus the system changes hurt his pressure a lot more than most chars

its why a lot of people hate him, he cant take responsibility for his own play when he loses. Yea hes a good player but come on my guy. take the L and move on

​@@atles300nah bro I like leffen, he chats mad shit. And builds notoriety. I feel like he wants to antagonise people as it builds drama in the scene which is good for interest and viewership. Leffen always wants to play the villain.

​@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yunah dude leffen is not 'playing the villain', he just says stupid shit, either because that's who he is or he's appealing to that fanbase

He criticized Tekken for its bloat, lack of frame data and TMMSWE later defended him. Alot of Leffen's criticisms about Tekken has been said about the entire Tekken community lol, ppl just hate Leffen so much that even when he makes a valid critique, ppl still hate him.

thats like every fighting game player here lol. snakeeyez will complain on his stream often and have so many reasons why he isnt as good as other players, also he was too scared to go to evo and get bodied

Agreed. It's relieving to hear the fgc criticize him. I don't understand why there were not more Melee players giving him shit.

I heard someone once defend his behavior by saying "There has to be a villain in everything" that's his entire personality, a villain. A piece of crap

Honestly I'm not sure if you were there back in the day, but he is unironically worse than LTG, and has done all the shit that LTG has done but worse, and he hasn't changed at all, just gotten better at hiding that part of himself and creating plausible deniability to fool people

@@PompousPoggspeople were tired of giving him shit lmao

​@@PompousPoggs Because in the Smash community, as long as you are good pressing buttons and share the same opinion as the elite, you can get away with being a piece of shit

It is kinda weird, though, because at the point that Snake Eyez won that tournament, he had one of the highest number of hours played in Strive in terms of online level. So yes, I suppose it's so easy to win in these games after you've put more time into them than most other people have. 🤔

Cause Texas showdown is on the same level as evo, right? Not a single person from the evo top 8 even participated.

​@@DariusRiversit's "easy" looool

they were scared. @@bencegergohocz5988

​@DariusRivers For what some feel like is a mountain to climb others may feel like a walk in the park. True Snake Eyez put alot more time but Leffen got to the lvl to be in the same ring as him. A skill floor is the same regardless of how long it takes someone to get there, if we're at similar levels than it can go other way. The better man of that set was SE

Texas showdown still brings in some very strong players.

@@judsonowens1304 The second strongest player at that tourney was LordKnight lol

@@judsonowens1304 not to the level evo does lmao that's the point.

I'mma be real. I just despise Leffen, as a person. @@arachnofiend2859

Nothing really comes close to EVO, so you can say that for any tournament, no?@@Vexinz

Funnily enough, a lot of people just says he looks like a typical anime protagonist lol.

Bruh 😂🤣😂🤣😂💀💀

More like anti-hero or rival character in anime. But he does sort of bring that upon himself, both in his personality and playing it up by embracing titles like "Godslayer" in Melee (before two of the gods started to retire due to health issues and another just retired).@@Unchainedful

​@@Unchainedfulwho tf says that???

@@Unchainedful And the acne doesn't help his case at all lol. I never knew he could look as sick as this before this tourney.

"concrete results" dude got 1st at a free strive tourney lol...

Kappa

​@@doberman_hund yes... exactly... that was literally his point lmao

You also have to be a huge pos for snake to even want to talk trash. I've only ever seen him dump on ltg and leffen.

​@@shmixedNshmoovedDude the other best player at that tournament was fucking lordknight💀

True. Tekken and SF are way too stacked with hungry and talented players.

So you're saying that you can shortcut your winning Evo in GGST? stop the cope man... give credit where credit is due.

@@MikoYotsuya292 yes happy chaos is broken

​@MikoYotsuya292 yeah he did, competition is nowhere near as stiff as sf or tekken, and happy chaos is one of the most broken characters in any fighting game

​@@MikoYotsuya292bro strive is a fuckin kusoge, what are u smokin? the only reason its in the main evo lineup is bc its the best selling anime fighter that isnt dbfz. it got offset by melty blood, which is less popular but its actually balanced and fun to watch.

That's only a subsect of the melee crowd. Everyone else has similar attitudes towards him.

Yeah... Saying the smash community likes leffen is very far away from the truth

Nah he gets treated pretty much the same everywhere because he acts the same everywhere.

​@@BxcarsEveryone in the smash community sided with him over the whole haxx thing

​@@KingOfDarknessAndEvilnot everyone man. The ones that did just had platforms like being TO's hence the banning of hax for no reason.

@waxcutter9813 by taking your time with him and parrying each boom as you get closer. Never play aggressively against a charge character like Guile. Baiting out a Flash kick is also a good counter to him. If he is standing, he can't flash kick. If he is walking forward, he can't sonic boom.

Any tips against a zoner? I’m new to street fighter and I’m having the time of my life but Ken was spamming fireballs and uppercuts

My best tip for beating zoners is to never get frustrated , they are trying to keep u frustrated so u either rush in and try to force an exchange and get punished, or u get beaten back with spam and accept ur fate of getting locked down and chipped to death. U have to be completely zen and play neutral till they get bored, practice ur combo confirms from stray hits and optimise ur burst options. Basicly u either want to develop neutral / defence so strong u weave in and out of their bullet hell while walking them down ,and they end up getting frustrated or stressed., or u develop an extremely strong pressure set up. Specifically against Ken’s fireball dp trap, neutral jump is ur friend, bait the uppercuts but be aware of another light dp on recovery , learn to react to the speed of every fire ball thrown , just because the last 8 are slow dosnt mean 9 won’t be fast.variations in fireball speed is how u mix up and condition the person trying to get in .

WITH THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME LOOOL

for real dude I was like "so do it then?" then bam. not to discredit strive players but damn maybe he's on to sum lmaoo

​@@ViewtifulFGCWho's the worst character?

@@Akodakun it was potemkin at the time he won the tournament

Dude there was basically no top players at that tournament lmao

That shit is boring bruh. You might as well just watch a bunch of bots play at that point

@@TAGkaihe like watching robots

​@@TAGkaiThere's entertaining gameplay tho. I love to see how a player from another country play

Thing vs thing:japan

​@@TAGkaione name. Daigo

Pretty sure it was the Johnny trials ye

To be fair to Luffen, he was grinding out GGST and attending tournaments since day one (including EVO 2021 Online victory as Chipp), so he's not exactly an "outsider" to GG scene. I don't like the dude, but his dedication to the game is genuine.

Thats strive alright. They made everything easier and created some bullshit characters like happy chaos

@@enzogonzalez7140 anime fighters like strive have rarely ever been actually difficult, they've always had outsiders come in and smoke the easier subgenre

@@tobywessling1282 I'm curious in examples now

Strive is the Brawl of the Guilty Gear franchise.

Mew2king?

@@dickthebirthdayboy2132no. Hax

What was the lie?

@@Ice-pe6vi That he is a pedo, sexual abuser or something forgot the details

?? why they got so much punk slander? lmao he's chill af.

His voice is od

I think Punk is hilarious af

Punk is a top tier player, but at times he can be pretty cringe too 😂😂

Come own neow

Lied about some pedophile, who cares

it's his duck voice, everything sounds funnier

What do you mean? They're both "grounded footsie fighting games". /s

Yeah so much of the stuff in this video is pretty disrespectful towards strive, I thought we left all of this street fighter supremacy stuff back in sf4

​@@notmyfullname598strive is ass, cry about it. They can not even be compared

i wanna see some streetfighter players hop on tekken 7 and do some first to 10s or something lol this video is probably the worst of it partially because leffen is the canon fodder but the vibe im getting is that street fighter players think they have some secret knowledge thats hidden behind playing street fighter for 10+ years XD

@@twentytwenty8653 if I'm being honest I got that vibe from some Tekken players too, make the elitists from both games fight

I mean he is good at sf not as good as she was saying but he would smash most above avg players

Deserved tho

basically, he said the gimmicks were too much. but he did reach the best rank in like 2 weeks so yea

@@BlackWeeeb He never got anywhere close to the "best rank" in Tekken, the fuck.

Not only did this mother fucker try to pick up Tekken, but he got a BUNCH of help. I mean a LOT. Then after getting whooped while cheesing his way with Zafina, this mother fucker betrayed the people who helped him. After, they came in and whooped his ass for free and he never went back. That's why he plays STRIVE. Cause the game is designed for creeps like him that never wanted to learn a series that no longer even remotely plays like how it use to be.

@@BlackWeeebhe got to at max 18-22 dan, while the proplayers are at 35-765 dan

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Radically different games, even within GG series Strive is very different game than the others.

Pretty much this. I don’t like leffen’s personality whatsoever, but all the takes in this video are just as pathetic as the whining he does.

Dipshits

​@@HieronymousLexAh yes, "whining".

​@@WeldonSirloindick in ur goup cough it up

not sure what the remix name is, but that's his verse off of 2 Stings ft. MF DOOM. cheers!

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He's in his late 20s???

@@trashmammal5420 yes, hes 28

Leffen sucks ass, and you can rag on his appearance (as you should) all you want, but evidently your attempt at spelling approaching is about as solid as leffen vs punk in a FT10

Average fg pro

His skin approaching meth head levels

Short people

Of course man, it’s real hard to compete in a melee tournament when you aren’t used to the smell of a venue full of autistic pedophiles who haven’t showered in years.

They don't even think is competitive, to them IT's a party game. I'll to see them get destroyed in melee xD

We are talking about fighting games here, sir.

@@raymondcampusano2991 they play fighting games they should win at any game automatically right?

​@@racuncaithey play fighting games, they have no interest in playing melee, which is not a fighting game.

Apparently a Razer Raion? I saw someone comment that, so I hope it's the one.

I think it has less to do with the competition and more to do with the skill set being different. leffen is a lab monster who can run his game plan better than anyone, but he can't play footsies. the fact that he leaves a game and calls it trash if he isn't godlike right away doesn't help, this is a guy who dropped cammy right away bc people were initially calling her mid and she wasn't degenerate enough. but I'd say it was a smarter decision to stick with strive and win evo than be mid juri player #17377

@@QGfk1 im sorry man but you can’t tell me leffen can’t play footsies when I watched him play melee for years. They’re different games and the neutral is different. He preforms better than 99% of players that’s why he’s an Evo champ for multiple games. Just because he’s not good at street fighter doesn’t warrant this amount of hate. If you don’t like the characters he plays that’s fine but why attack his skin care?

Some of these comments are just hate on the fighting games he plays which is just pure elitism I understand y’all haters think street fighter is the best fighting game but it don’t take away from games like DBZ teller and guilty gear just because you can’t deal with 6P.

@@Chocolatebeeefleffen devotes alot of time to his games. those bring melee and strive. hes now won majors and huge tourneys for both or got 2nd consistently. do ppl rlly think he cant get atleast top 16 consistently in sf6 if he had the same time to to delve into it? its weird. he may not be a proven “goat adapter at fgs” like punk or sonic, but hes closer to that than most the niggas talkin in the video if i had to assume

@@Trashiemoviestarnah he not getting top 16 consistently for at least 2-3 years. He didn't even need a year to win a evo in strive. Completely different competition

Yeah it's silly I know.

leffen played previous street fighter and he grinded sf6, there are new sf6 players that are doing way better with the same time he had.

@@szymonmirek6389 I doubt that he "grinded" that much considering he grinds GG strive....ya know because he's a GG strive top player so I still agree with the OP. If he actually grinded SF6 like Riddles then I think he'd do alot better. I think trying to downplay his skill at this point is getting silly right brother. He's a 2 time Evo GG Strive champion and a 3rd place runner up, he did well in DBZ fighters before he dropped it. It's time to stop with downplaying his skill, you can hate him all you want, dude is extremely cringe and annoying at times but his skill in fighting games is commendable.

Why are these guys bashing him for playing cheap shit, 90% of the pros play the cheap shit. It's also foolish to bash this guy by assuming he can't adapt to the street fighter style of play. There's a good chance he can. I mean he was good at DBFZ and Strive, 2 games that were no where similar to Smash. What a bunch of crap.

Op isn't familiar with the grass roots style of the fgc. That's sad.

@@exorder2005 people saying that new players can't adapt isn't new to SF to be fair, but it's just that SF is a franchise with a LOT more legacy players with a big following that it's not surprising a lot of loud toxic voices will talk shit on newcomers. Yeah, it's completely unfounded, and if Leffen enjoys SF6 I hope he gets to shut them up, but it's not a unique problem to SF

​@@exorder2005He would rather complain about the game than adapt. He was shitting on the whole Tekken community because he was losing in 7.

​​@exorder2005 is because he slandered others for playing what to him was at the time, cheap shit

the fuck do you mean? no one was applauding his victories in melee because that shit wasn’t earned. all the real competition, that is to say the melee gods, moved on to other shit like raising families. leffen has always been lame

What redemption arc 💀💀 only leffens viewers like him, everyone what knows he's a shit head that just happens to be good at games

There's is no effort on my part to make Snake seem like a hater. He was mostly reading messages in chat, which i tried to convey by writing "CHAT:" followed by whatever they said like at 5:57 so that viewers know it wasn't snake himself that said it. He definitely didn't disagree with their messages most of the time, which is fine, he doesn't dislike leffen for no reason. Leffen has a very toxic history and has tried to discredit snakes wins in the past. Even if snake was a hater it would be kinda justified, but yeah, he's not.

You slurping

Reach

Anyone want to elaborate on Leffen "toxic" history? Because so far I only get vague answers about him throwing groomer allegations against another Smash Bros player and getting Zero (who is confirmed to be a groomer) to almost take his existence away from himself unalive himself m outside of that it's also just "he is toxic, he is mean etc etc" ._.

@@DANCERcow you could just search on RU-vid you know. Lots of videos and documentaries will pop out if you do lol

That wasn't the point of including that clip, the point was, Leffen couldn't even win a Texas showdown level event in SF6, at least snake could get a small W in Strive. With Pot no less. Leffen went to headstomper 2023 for SF6, Swedish tournament, 200 player bracket, no SF player of note attended, tierwhored with Juri Han, and STILL got washed.

@@Hxnsson It wasn't very clear in the video and the way it was edited tbh, Melee is just much of a timesink as SF6 so it makes sense leffen would not have results there, it also felt that you wanted to display that there's a sentiment among the FGC that games that are not SF6 and Tekken are just inherently easier or less competitive, which is harmful towards those games and unfair towards anime fighters like strive, remember that on its day during the pandemic strive carried the FGC while sf5 and tekken were both a netcode and release cycle nightmare.

@@badluck. That's what I am thinking man, this video is straight up propaganda. It almost makes me like Leffen in a weird way.

@@jmax1245it’s cuz you gai

@@jmax1245 It's cause it is prop. He played Pot. Pot is 4 buttons. If you get 2 cmd grabs. You can usually win.

Implying the smash community Likes him? Lol

You think the smash community likes him, I have a few fucking words to say about that. He is the biggest piece of shit ever who tried to change the fucking rules of the game to avoid a bad matchup

Smash community hates him too. They just too pussy to actually say it out loud

SF6 players think their game is hard 😭

​@@gasaiv2lmao certainly harder than smash

@@anotherinternetperson8495 Try it? I play both, play smash way longer than SF, I'm diamond on SF6 (my first SF game) and get shit on in smash and I'm quite decent tbh

I play both, Smash is not close to as easy as you think it is. A good smash player will wash your ass before you get out of character select.@@anotherinternetperson8495

I mean the fact that you’re here commenting this means that he got in your head a little

​@@Navezceruyeah, there's never been a video in someone's feed that might grab their interest or curiosity in the history of youtube.

​@@Navezcerunah not really. Sounds like you're coping. He didn't say bad about leffen. Now eat it up

Snake Eyez sounds like a total hater but he's properly intuited that Leffen is indeed kind of a scumbag. He's probably not even aware of how Leffen has been saying shit that's out-of-pocket and making himself a pariah in the Smash scene for ages. idk if his behavior has been bad recently, but I know he's been considered controversial since like the pre-Smash 4 years.

If you thought he was mature, you have not seen his streams.

leffen deserves it though, he might possibly have the most devoted fans for absolutely no reason if you spend 10 min checking the shit he's done. trash person deserves getting trashed. also a happy chaos player on top of it.

Snake eyes be more mature?! LMAO you really haven’t seen anything leffen has done have you? Leave it to blind hypocritical fanboys

It's a little strange cause sajam dunked on snake eyez for saying dumb shit like SF players are so much better than players in any other fighting games during the sf4. Looks like he is regurgitating the same shit from 10 years ago 😞

"Sending hate mobs to people who criticize him. Falsely accused an FGC player for pedophilia, that lead to an attempted suicide... Amongst other things." Also Generalized abuse, specifically consistently abusing a hard of hearing person for being... well hard of heaaring, and well... just being a dick fuck leffen, he shouldn't be allowed a platform on the big stage

Huh

Aint no way you called snake eyes ltg

@@ExeltedTV Who confuses Snake Eyez with LTG?

LTG > leffail