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SGC SELLS TO PSA (COLLECTORS) PETER SPEAKS! IS THIS GOOD or BAD?? WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?? MY THOUGHTS 

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@DRTOLLZ
@DRTOLLZ 7 месяцев назад
Only reason PSA is #1 is because we, the consumer of their slabs, put a higher premium on them forcing us to grade with them more to make more $$$. It's really our own fault that PSA is #1. We need to stop differentiating their slabs as worth more money. It literally makes no sense. Why would their 10 be worth more than another company's 10. SGC grades are more reliable, whereas PSA is all over the place, which would value the SGC card as "better."
@jude999
@jude999 7 месяцев назад
I blame it on SGC's ugly labels and bulky slabs.
@ryanmiller3030
@ryanmiller3030 7 месяцев назад
I agree, and to the point that maybe it's because the slabs are ugly, isn't the main reason we send cards is to get GRADED, not because of looks.
@jasober86
@jasober86 7 месяцев назад
Totally Agree! SGC slabs are clean, PSA are antiquated brittle plastics.
@RandomStuff0303
@RandomStuff0303 7 месяцев назад
@@jasober86SGC slabs are cheap unfortunately. They can be popped open with little to no effort, and thicker slabs leave cards super loose. I’ve used them a lot but the cases are pretty cheap.
@DRTOLLZ
@DRTOLLZ 7 месяцев назад
@@ryanmiller3030 it used to be but now it’s all about flipping and making a profit
@leogonzalez9384
@leogonzalez9384 7 месяцев назад
I believe this was to avoid Fanatics from buying SGC.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
Very tactical from Collectors standpoint if that is indeed the case.
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 7 месяцев назад
To avoid Fanatics buying SGC. Also, not having to worry about having one less competitor too with SGC. They now have the same Daddy.
@michaeldenzer6024
@michaeldenzer6024 7 месяцев назад
Keep tuxes! Love the look and grades....
@rickjones3965
@rickjones3965 7 месяцев назад
Never Trust Anyone With Interlocked Fingers
@Oz1976
@Oz1976 7 месяцев назад
I have a 29 card submission I just sent to PSA. I was about to send in 13 cards to SGC (mostly early 90's Jordan's) but now I don't know if to go ahead or hold off. The only good thing that can come of this, in my opinion, is if people start giving the SGC slab the same value as a PSA. Will they? I don't think so, too much conditioning has gone on over the last 20+ years that PSA = best. My other worry is that Collectors bought SGC not only their vintage business, but for their location. You ship your cards to PSA and they're going to California. You ship them to SGC and they're going to Sarasota, FL. Living an hour north of SGC here in Tampa, FL, it's been a great experience with turnaround times for me. I'm worried they bought them to have an East Coast pressence so they can plow through cards and service to the East Coast more quickly.
@rashaun_elway
@rashaun_elway 4 месяца назад
Wonder if sgc 10 will just cross right over to psa
@OTP-CT
@OTP-CT 7 месяцев назад
Several people have floated the rumor that Collectors purchased SGC to operate as they currently are but also to utilize their folks to grade under the PSA name and reduce PSA backlog! Interesting.
@michaeldenzer6024
@michaeldenzer6024 7 месяцев назад
Wait and see...im subbing to psa soon!!! 1st time ever....🎉
@fear0
@fear0 7 месяцев назад
So basically Peter says "we are all about the collector but, we weren't making enough money to get bigger so we sold out. All for YOU, THE COLLECTOR!"
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I’m not gonna lie that statement was a bit of an oxymoron
@howievision
@howievision 7 месяцев назад
Payout for Peter, SGC has capital backing now to grow (new equipment costs, etc.), and prevents Fanatics from buying SGC. Short-term I see no change, long term, 2 or 3 years down the line, if SGC isn't holding up that great or Collectors fails to prop them up, they will fold it into PSA. Or they change/market SGC to be their vintage side. PSA also gains quick access to a group of experienced graders that they don't have to train too. Mainly I think this is a safety block to Fanatics and ensures that Collectors and PSA stay needed and relevant for the long term.
@michaelgregory2732
@michaelgregory2732 7 месяцев назад
Great video Omar! The slab crossover (psa/sgc) is another interesting niche that im probably never going to do. If i have any 9.5s i want to crosser over, its going to be a straight crack/resub to risk the lower grade.
@Pencilbox-r1p
@Pencilbox-r1p 7 месяцев назад
PSA looking to monopolize the grading industry. to RAISE the prices and further screw the hobby!
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
That’s what I’m afraid of. But we’ll see how this pans out.
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
I got upcharged $3000 on my last PSA submission in 2021. The cards are now worth $3000
@SamuelJ888
@SamuelJ888 7 месяцев назад
@@DanielCordone9 gotta stop grading base rookies
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
@@SamuelJ888 Yeah, it's only worth submitting rare cards for grading nowadays. Glad I've not submitted cards for grading recently. Have about 1000 cards that need grading, which has probably reduced to 600 due to price declines
@Pencilbox-r1p
@Pencilbox-r1p 7 месяцев назад
Typical "Money Grab" by PSA...Just when a competing company starts to make grading better, PSA buys them out...SGC was charging less, with a faster turn around than PSA...with their GREED, PSA struck a blow to the very consumers that make them millions!...I for one , am boycotting PSA...I suggest you all do the same...have a nice day!
@anthonylong5870
@anthonylong5870 7 месяцев назад
I for one will not be using either PSA or SGC any longer. I will go to CSG and be more then happy about it. I will never let my cards be ruined by shotty fake grades from PSA
@kryptic8956
@kryptic8956 7 месяцев назад
I personally like SGC over PSA.
@Kevin_40
@Kevin_40 7 месяцев назад
i hope all the card grading companies fail all of them. way too greedy raised prices way too high. i havent gotten anything graded in years now.
@kennyshort9078
@kennyshort9078 7 месяцев назад
Mergers are never good, I have been through 2 !! When Sony took over BMG music. When MSH took over Beth Israel Hospital..😢😢😢
@pulses33
@pulses33 7 месяцев назад
I heard it was 100 million
@williedillard8938
@williedillard8938 7 месяцев назад
More up-charges incoming.
@IdealtheWrapper
@IdealtheWrapper 7 месяцев назад
Just bullshit grades.
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
Yep, you'll get an unfair grade plus an upcharge. If you get PSA to send the card back ungraded, they'll just crease it and return it.
@Fleescards
@Fleescards 7 месяцев назад
Yes, collectors purchased SGC... not PSA... titles like that lead to misinformation.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
That’s the point. lol. Those who know know.
@IdealtheWrapper
@IdealtheWrapper 7 месяцев назад
Hell with this hobby man. I cant anymore.
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
Yep, don't spend too much. Got to sell to buy at the moment. I splashed out $14k on the wrong cards
@vintagesportscards8265
@vintagesportscards8265 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely horrible for the hobby. Been rumblings for a few weeks about sgc customer service issues. But I see people hating on Peter. He doesn’t own the company this wasn’t his call.
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
Brent Martin in customer services is atrocious. Completely wasted my time submitting to SGC. They couldn't be bothered to grade my cards because they were too busy
@randyburnett2941
@randyburnett2941 7 месяцев назад
this is bad news for the hobby less options is never a good idea
@in2rock275
@in2rock275 7 месяцев назад
What's this mean for you? It means higher prices. The top 2 now have, what, 90% or more of the market so they can set the price. They're certainly not going to compete with themselves. It's always been this way for any business...less competition equals higher prices.
@michaeldenzer6024
@michaeldenzer6024 7 месяцев назад
Nice take!!!
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
Buy BGS slabs. They're tough graders. You get better quality cards in Beckett slabs
@Sportscardattractions
@Sportscardattractions 7 месяцев назад
Do you think this will raise the value of SGC slabs?
@Doors067
@Doors067 7 месяцев назад
SGC is now Big D**k Daddy along with Psa what do you think?
@jude999
@jude999 7 месяцев назад
No. People will need to reslab to PSA because no one will want slabs of a company that no longer exists.
@jasober86
@jasober86 7 месяцев назад
Of course! Its all under the same Collectors umbrella now. Cousins!
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
​@@jude999Glad I haven't got too many SGC slabs
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 7 месяцев назад
Unlikely
@richardolivas5355
@richardolivas5355 7 месяцев назад
Peter will be gone soon...redundant position
@IdealtheWrapper
@IdealtheWrapper 7 месяцев назад
Yupp
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
He could be replacing Nat Turner
@AustinSamuelF
@AustinSamuelF 7 месяцев назад
Yay. Another US monopoly.
@419SportsGuy
@419SportsGuy 7 месяцев назад
SGC was not PSA’s competition in their mind. Being at 10% output compared to PSA, it was more like a gnat that they had to squash.
@The047SportsTCGCards
@The047SportsTCGCards 7 месяцев назад
Not True, if you look at monthly sports card only that were graded PSA held only a 4.65X advantage of SGC and PSA had lost a lot of their PRE-1980s Grading to SGC over the past couple of years.
@jasonfuller2734
@jasonfuller2734 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for telling us you have the mind of a 10 year old. PSA isn’t the best grading company, they are the most used. Why? Easy 10s because of a simplistic, antiquated grading scale that made sense to smooth-brained investors. That’s it.
@419SportsGuy
@419SportsGuy 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for calling me 10 for having a business opinion backed by facts. Fanboys gonna hate. The grading industry is just a money grab… always will be.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
Yeah I’m not sure I agree with the Gnat comparison. But SGC was definitely a worthy adversary to PSA. IF SGC decided to update its slab, and lower prices just below PSA they could have taken a sizable amount of business from that. Not to mention if they decided to partner up with fanatics and go that route that would have been crazy. Also if they would have joined up with CGC or collectively joined up with Beckett AND CGC that would have been a threat to PSA.
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
​@@jasonfuller2734BGS are the best of a bad bunch
@DansVintageBaseballPC
@DansVintageBaseballPC 7 месяцев назад
I want to know what the 2021 Omar thinks about this!
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
2021 Omar with through out of PSA at 6 months and $100 grading thinks this is a TERRIBLE idea. 2024 Omar still thinks this isn’t best for the hobby BUT I could see from a business standpoint why both sides agreed to a deal
@IdealtheWrapper
@IdealtheWrapper 7 месяцев назад
This is brutal dude. We had ONE player in the game and now its pointless. No more trying for GOLD labels or thinking our cards will be trrated with respect. No way this goes well. Damn it.
@indcsion
@indcsion 7 месяцев назад
How long can vintage last? It must be getting hard to find cards from those early years to grade.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
Exactly! Which is why I think SGC made this play. The market out there for vintage is finite. They aren’t making more.
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
True. Plus you can't order most vintage cards from Panini anymore.
@IdealtheWrapper
@IdealtheWrapper 7 месяцев назад
FML.... well Im one srep closer to stepping away. Tgis is the worst news I could have recieved. They will either destroy SGC credibility or dissolve them. My first text as well. Real collectors are gonna be sad for a while. No way this ends well. Was just about to send off my LeBron eTopps today... not now!!! We are living the most messed up version of reality.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
Yeah it’s definitely not ideal. This is a very interesting situation.
@Elove8703
@Elove8703 7 месяцев назад
Glad to see you weren't on a ledge lol 🤣
@andrefullard455
@andrefullard455 7 месяцев назад
So now is SGC 10 gonna cost the same as PSA 10? I really think SGC is a better company
@Oz1976
@Oz1976 7 месяцев назад
We both know that's not going to happen. There may be a slight uptick in SGC 10's from people who are like "Well PSA bought them so they must have faith in their grades", but it'll never be a 1 to 1 equality. SGC 10's will still be 10-25% behind PSA 10's on anything post 1987
@ZiggyNo
@ZiggyNo 7 месяцев назад
Universal registry. Now set collectors can add those amazing SGC slabs to their collections without cross over. This will bring SGC fanboys into the registry. You just made a video on registry soon you can add your SGC slabs. This is a smart move that will grow hobby and values for both
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
I’m not gonna lie. This is the ONLY thing I’m pumped about.
@ZiggyNo
@ZiggyNo 7 месяцев назад
@@RetroHoopCollectibles remember it’s all magic and wizard Hogwarts bought SGC. Enjoy the hobby. Let’s talk about basketball products?
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 7 месяцев назад
If SGC collectors cared about the registry. They would have just bought from PSA. The reason they didn't wasn't just because of the set registry, but PSA awful fees, upcharges, and shitty customer service.
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 7 месяцев назад
All of those things will be happening to SGC soon too. Like the Dark Knight. ''You either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain.''
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 7 месяцев назад
All of those things will be happening to SGC soon too. Like the Dark Knight. ''You either die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain.''
@TimeToGoMan
@TimeToGoMan 7 месяцев назад
I don't know that SGC will still be around in a couple of years. You see what happened to CSG grading. Just saying
@jasonfuller2734
@jasonfuller2734 7 месяцев назад
They won’t be. SGC will be absorbed by PSA and the Boca location will be PSAs south-east location. PSA will then raise all of their fees and their service days will get longer. Why? Why not. It’s not like PSA cultists will stop using them.
@Oz1976
@Oz1976 7 месяцев назад
I mean, CSG is technically still around just as CGC. It hasn't gone anywhere just rebrand. It's not quite an apples to apples comparison.
@geodio
@geodio 7 месяцев назад
Well that took a turn. Wow.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
Yeah tell me about it. I was shocked this morning.
@michaeldenzer6024
@michaeldenzer6024 7 месяцев назад
Yo....to the Bro.....
@thecardclosetcanada5443
@thecardclosetcanada5443 7 месяцев назад
Crazy times. PSA might have bought SGC before someone else did? CGC has deep pockets. If they bought SGC, they could have the tcg side of things with cgc, and the sports card side of things with SGC. Now that would be an interesting combination if your talking about competition for PSA.
@fernando-mychildhoodcollec5671
@fernando-mychildhoodcollec5671 7 месяцев назад
The neurolinguistic is different from the speech.
@RetroHoopCollectibles
@RetroHoopCollectibles 7 месяцев назад
Do tell. I’m fascinated by body language concept.
@OTP-CT
@OTP-CT 7 месяцев назад
Pete move to CGC to link up after Ezra withMascot partnership with CGC? This is another Fanatics play. Ugh.
@IdealtheWrapper
@IdealtheWrapper 7 месяцев назад
SGC gold label sells gifher than PSA 10 so whatever. Most PSA 10s arent. Who cares about rhe arguement, people that dont understand what this means dont matter in the CONVO!!!
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
You no longer need 4 sharp corners to get a PSA 10
@IdealtheWrapper
@IdealtheWrapper 7 месяцев назад
Almost gave this a tgumbs down just cuz I wanna break something. This is trash. Leap year 2024 was the day the hobby got ROCKED. NOT A CHANCE IT PANS OUT WELL.
@mocoblue1
@mocoblue1 7 месяцев назад
Well the way I see it is. Panini name is on the bottom of just about every ultra modern cards out there. Topps still doing what they do. Remember fleer/score products helped create what we know, this monster called sports cards collecting today. score jus makes football cards for now and fleer products like ultra has been discontinued. U can't blame sgc, because changes happen every so, decades no matter what.
@txsodak
@txsodak 7 месяцев назад
CGC needs to buy beckett and desolve the cgc brand
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
Beckett could be purchasing PSA
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 7 месяцев назад
@@DanielCordone9 I would think it would be the other way around..
@Pencilbox-r1p
@Pencilbox-r1p 7 месяцев назад
You serve MONEY PSA!
@DanielCordone9
@DanielCordone9 7 месяцев назад
Wouldn't be surprised if BGS acquired PSA. Nat Turner will get fired and Charles Stabile will be in control of everything
@checkmugged
@checkmugged 7 месяцев назад
It’s cute you think going to bed at midnight or one makes you a night owl lol
@crankycardguy1369
@crankycardguy1369 7 месяцев назад
😂
@419SportsGuy
@419SportsGuy 7 месяцев назад
First!
@michaeldenzer6024
@michaeldenzer6024 7 месяцев назад
Wait and see...im subbing to psa soon!!! 1st time ever....🎉
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