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about the tea thing... yes, you were right ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-psYBcqSVqLg.html

@Nij JinTheir "own culture" is still copied from China lol

The Japanese has to own culture, the learn from others and take it as their own, like the western culture influenced the modern Japanese.

Japan has little to none of their "own culture". Western culture infiltrates Japan, turns it into a society of even more stupid people.

It's a fascinating disgrace that more chinese tradition survives outside of china than in

Japanese people were probably once Chinese people that were either exploring or exiled there just like Australia and America so it must be similar

The professor responsible has been charged with academic fraud.

@@ericluo520 Australia was an English penal colony....the aboriginals were not mixed in 40.000 years..

Its not the point that it may have existed, no on argues that. The point is, it died out... so no one knows exactly what it looks like. This is not the real archery as it would have appeared, its just made up. To me, it looks like they have copied Japanese Kyudo.

@@thefantasyreview8709 The dress was probably inspired by Japanese, which in turn was inspired by Tang Dynasty. The archery style is Chinese because it uses Chinese methods as taught by in manuals.

Herrera Gonza Wine was sacred in Ancient China, so drinking it when losing is respect.

No, finding people who still practice the traditional archery of the Qing dynasty is very, very rare. The style shown in the video is a recreation of an extinct activity.

Well since they’re recreating it’s still awesome. I hope someday it becomes a popular sport in Chinese high school just like how Kyudo became a popular sport in Japan’s high school. Who knows, besides many of the young Chinese had brought back Hanfu, and now Hanfu festivals becomes a thing.

Mainland chinese dont respect traditional archery, they will say: "for what? It is useless!"

The rituals of the Japanese imperial court resemble those of the Chinese, but the rituals of the samurai do not. First, we need to recognize that the Imperial Court and samurai culture are two different things. The Imperial Court sent an envoy to China in the Nara period (710-794) to embrace Chinese culture, which is similar to Chinese rituals. Samurai, on the other hand, originated from local powerful families, and samurai were most influenced by the culture of the Emishi, who lived in the ancient Tohoku region. In fact, their swords, helmet decorations, and horsemanship were influenced by the culture of the Emishi. Furthermore, the rituals in the video resemble those of the Edo period in Japan, but if they were influenced by the Chinese, they must have imitated the rituals of the Heian period in Japan. In fact, the rituals of the Edo period are very different from those of the Heian period.

Same design as Han dynasty composites found in nw China and similar design as bamboo laminated Bronze Age Chinese bows

I think it's a reconstruction based on the historical record plus archaeological discovery tho, didn't find any settings are wrong so far in the video

Salty white guy

not creative at all. Quite well based on 周禮 description

It is actual history, the Tsinghua university used archaeological and historical evidence and research to reconstruct this. Go read Chinese historical records before insulting the efforts of people with greater knowledge on a subject than you.

This is a chinese bow, you can see that the middle part of the bow is shorter than the mongolian bow and that the bow had a longer end than the mongolian bow. The japanese bow are longer and not curved just like korean long bows. I think you are confusing the way he drew the bow with the japanese kyudo tradition. But these way of drawing was common in archery ceremony with minor difference, on which the japanese uses their hand to draw, while here the chinese uses the thumb.

The bow used in Kyudo is a longer bow. That difference is obvious. Seek an eye doctor at once!

tom happy Confucius was a philosopher, not an emperor. Learn a Chinese history please.

@@jasonhuang6078 By the inclusion of a question mark at the end of my note would suggest I have the same knowledge as you. Perhaps learning a bit more about the English language would be of help as well.

Being a little harsh😆😆 but just look at that slide about Confucius. There's a nice 'Emperor' sized blur in front of it no?

Confucius only held high ranking positions in the courts of the State of Lu, put he never became a monarch.

The ‘emperor’ is probably blurred out because it was accidentally put there. Besides, there are no historical records that say Confucius was a monarch at any time in his life.

Yup, he left the last one for the Japanese to put it on their Imperial Army to use during WW2.

@@sleepywatcher talking about a different Yi but ok

Yes - our mistake. Sorry!

john son If it were a Chinese channel, they wouldn’t have made that mistake. Calm your racism, dude.

大多已經失傳

不仅仅是仪式，在必要的时候，射术和驾马车也可能成为保护主公的技能， 躲避敌人的追杀。 是有着非常实际的实用考虑而被作为孔子门徒的学习项目。 只是秦朝统一后，再没有出现一堆食客要随时保护主公的情况出现（只剩下一个皇帝），贵族逐渐被官僚和武将体系取代，文官专司文职，而保护皇帝的工作只需要专业的御林军就好了，六艺才真正慢慢变成艺术朝非实用性方向趋近。

对啊，这事儿会诛九族的啊呵呵呵呵

and it just show you just stupid and arrogant , google is in your hand search it idiot , archery in chinese was longer the 3000 year , japanese learn alot from china back in in ancient time when they just establish gorverment system , in qin ,han dynasty military record had teach soldier how to shoot arrow from chariots that why it stand and look like that way , japanese just learn from it and didn`t even know what it use for ( didn`t even had chariot ) and become the bullshit rituals you see today

@john son Where in the video does it say Emperor Confucius?

Never mind lol they blurred it

It's a replica of the rituals of archery described in one ancient Chinese script. If I don't remember it wrong, this is is done by the the professors and students from Qinghua university. They restored the building and costumes, too. But this bow seems like and Manchuria bow...

When all asian are same😂😂

there is a thing called book in the ancient time

@@user-me4zj4jo8t same cooking book and different result styles. Ha~

@@user-sc5om5dt7z yes，it‘s true.but you cook a dish by watching videos could also make the taste quite different

@@user-me4zj4jo8t so tradition is important. That is not tradition. That is just creation.

@@user-sc5om5dt7z the tradition can change by times.The Jewish didn't speak Jewish for centuries.but they speak it now, it doesn't mean they create a totally new language. they revive it to modern life

Yes, because its copied from Kyudo.

Is it? Kyudo is so new thing. So this is fake?

@@cyzam Kyudo is hundreds of years old, and this is new - its been recreated because the chinese archery has stopped and no one really knows what it looks like.

​@@thefantasyreview8709 yeah. But there is a slightly mistake in your statement. In china, archery has two types, one for combat and another for important ceremonies or gatherings of Scholar-Bureaucrats. The later one disappearred with the end of Ming dynasty, on the one hand it's because of the loss of Chinese culture, on the other hand Qing dynasty unified the shape of the bow(for the first time in Chinese history). However, the former one did not disappear and lasts today. There are a large amount of old Qing bows still exist and some of them can still shoot. And many people know how to make these bows, or how to shoot them. Sadly, how Chinese people shoot before Qing can only be seen in ancient books or arts. Pity.

​@@cyzamthe way they draw are simillar since it is common to draw like this in archery ceremony.

For one, Japanese clothing is inspired by Tang dynasty. Two, look at Gao Ying, a form of Chinese archery, among other forms.

what you sad is just like "look, that father looks so like his son?

Seyfettin Sesli its originally Chinese. Japanese and Koreans took note

@john son usually that's the case, and this video is a good example of people who do poor research. But this is an actual drinking sport from the Zhou Dynasty. Confucius wrote about it a few times in his manuscripts. Not everything Asian is from Japan

@john son I honestly don't see the appeal of Japanese culture anyway. Like 70 to 80% of stuff is Chinese in origin anyway. Which is why I appreciate Chinese culture more

@john son you speak of modern China, and based on what you typed I can tell that you have an ignorance when it comes to modern China. But I meant ancient China. The China that lasted thousands of years, whose inventions shaped the world. Everyone wanted to be them

@john sonNow who told you that?

wirthlessemokid But there are many Confucian elements in this nowhere to be found in Kyudo.

check out the book of 周礼，man.

Ignorant and lack of appreciation for history. Typical Korean style coment

feitsaipui 香港废青? 丢了香港人的脸

Justin Wong 我没记错这是清华大学复原的中国古代弓道的一个什么仪式，像日本的那也是没办法，毕竟日本也是照着中国古书做的，只不过他们从古到今没有断过，一直源远流长

This is excerpt from “周礼” about the archery ceremony. 军事射箭技术五射：”白矢、参连、剡注、襄尺、井仪。白矢，箭穿靶子而箭头发白，表明发矢准确而有力;参连，前放一矢，后三矢连续而去，矢矢相属，若连珠之相衔;剡注，谓矢行之疾;襄尺，臣与君射，臣与君并立，让君一尺而退;井仪，四矢连贯，皆正中目标。“

no

Looks like kyudo copy....

I don't know a lot about pre-manchu archery, but these are clearly Chinese bows and clothing. But I know what you mean about the ressemblance to Kyudo. However, this isn't surprising if you know how muchJapan was a copy of early China. The legendary city of Kyoto was a copy of the Chinese Forbidden City, Japanese clothing is pretty much like the mode up to the Song dynasty, the Katana is basically a curved Chinese Heng Dao, tea ceremony and the love for cherry blossoms comes from there too... The difference is that the Mongol invasion of China (and the later Manchu occupation) changed it a lot, while Japan retained much of its Chinese origin. So if we want to be really precise, Kyudo is surely more a copy of Chinese archery than the reverse.

Nelson Ventura kyudo was inspired by Chinese. Like almost everything else the Japanese have

Kyudo's earliest form was said to be this

as a Chinese I found this interesting. I do know we had ceremonies involving archery called ”射礼” but I’m not sure wether it was practised with half you nipples out like that. I’m also a bit skeptical 🤔 I’ll have to do more research.

@@user-np3li4pl3i Quite the contrary, there are artworks of chinese archers practicing without shirt on.

@@user-np3li4pl3i 古代衣服礼服不脱了又没有办法射箭呀

Caesar Zhiyu Zhang LoL, Manchu culture supporter

@@jasonhuang6078 Are you Zhu Di supporter? Guess you think funeral human sacrifice is OK?

Caesar Zhiyu Zhang You support the actions of the Manchus? You support the Yangzhou Massacre? You insult the efforts of Tsinghua University without even educating yourself? Such a shame.

@@jasonhuang6078 you are the one needing education here.

Caesar Zhiyu Zhang Why did you say that this video was an embarrassment?

the Japanese developed their archery and basically everything else from Chinese culture.

@@davidm8135 not true lol. Japan had contact with China in the Tang dynasty and then shut itself and developed its own medieval traditions. Chinese archery uses an even recurve bow and uses the thumb draw. Japanese archery is a longbow that is uneven. The Japanese draw method is also completely dify

@@user-cr3pn7rk2v yes, Japanese archery is different. However, it is still based on Chinese archery originally

I can’t believe how blind you people are, this clearly has no relationship with Kyudo. This ritual was out of use before the Tang Dynasty when Japan had contact with China. Everything from the bow used, the clothing, and the procedure is completely different from Kyudo.

@@jasonhuang6078 I cant find any Chinese painting with one shoulder naked like the Japanese style.

Japnese copied archery from China. You father is not a fake you. Get some education

Yi 中华文化，明白吗。 你可真是一个老外。

This was revival of Zhou Dynasty archery by Tsinghua University.

中国的文艺复兴

太瘦了，就这样还要露肩膀，肋骨都出来了。与严肃的气氛不搭。

The moon is part of China since ancient times!!!!!

Bc we koreans influenced China viet pill and Japan. It’s just ppl from other countries think china did but it’s Korea who heavily influenced China and other Asian countries. We are proud to be korean, influenced other countries. Hopefully they wake up soon

@@jasonhuang6078 pizza originated from Korea which Marco Polo stole from us.

@@CTcCaster no actually it’s us koreans. Our history is long unlike china

@@Advanced_Mind_ Hahahaa I knew Koreans would mention Japan by their IQ. Look at Korea, they were also a colony of Japan, n yet despite the hardship chinese face, their country now is not controlled by anyone. Yet look at Korea. Colony of the US. I guess Korea is meant to be controlled without escape. Poor sk

Chinese had sophisticated rituals in ancient time ca 400 BC but not sure exactly what it would be like since there is no videos back then. Japanese learned a lot of stuff from China in ancient time such as tea, sword, sampo wrestling, architecture, Buddhism, language, the dresses, even chopsticks. I wouldn't be surprised if Japanese archery ritual was learned from ancient Chinese. I hope I don't sound arrogant, but Japan did preserve a lot of Chinese rituals.

originaly chinese, then japanese copy.

It's just a reconstruction of an ancient Chinese script. For studying history...

度过周礼吗？

This is excerpt from “周礼” about the archery ceremony. 军事射箭技术五射：”白矢、参连、剡注、襄尺、井仪。白矢，箭穿靶子而箭头发白，表明发矢准确而有力;参连，前放一矢，后三矢连续而去，矢矢相属，若连珠之相衔;剡注，谓矢行之疾;襄尺，臣与君射，臣与君并立，让君一尺而退;井仪，四矢连贯，皆正中目标。“

aw no

AllenVolt ??

Chinese had sophisticated rituals in ancient time ca 400 BC but not sure exactly what it would be like since there is no videos back then. Japanese learned a lot of stuff from China in ancient time such as tea, sword, sampo wrestling, architecture, Buddhism, language, the dresses, even chopsticks. I wouldn't be surprised if Japanese archery ritual was learned from ancient Chinese. I hope I don't sound arrogant, but Japan did preserve a lot of Chinese rituals.

AllenVolt i know that’s what i said, china is the teacher of asia i know that.

Actually, the professor responsible for this has been charged with academic fraud by concocting a pseudo-tradition based on Kyudo.

Ganikus what is so funny? What is so funny is Koreans and Japanese denying Chinese influence.

Ganikus why can’t China be traditional.

​​@@jasonhuang6078The Japanese do not deny the origins of much of their culture. However, the Japanese took much of the cultural imports from China, and stamped it with their own creative genius. That is why, the modern Kimono does not resemble the Hanfu. Why Japanese houses don't resemble traditional Chinese houses. Even Japanese chopsticks do not look like Chinese choptsticks. Everything from the language, the etiquette, the food they eat, etc, does not resembke what one finds in China. With few exceptions, there has been a cultural disconnect in China, brought on by the Manchu takeover in 1644,the disasters of the 20th century, like the Cultural Revolution, which just about destroyed what few traces remained of traditional Chinese culture. There was no Cultural Revolution in Japan, where they tried to do away with old customs, traditions and culture. In Japan for instance, one encounters craftsmen and artisans, or actors in Noh, Kabuki and Bunraku,who come from a long, unbroken line of practitioners, so the tradition is kept alive through familial transmission. This sort of continuum is hard to find in China, which is why they are doing what they can do in reconstructing and recreating the ancient culture, that appeals more to modern sensibilities then the overly decorated and ornate taste of the Ch'ing and modern Chinese.

뚝딱이 Oh no, very different procedure and bow.

Guydo 弓道 this is chinese language.

@@lgya999 Chinese character is from China. But gyudo(kyudo) is Japanese language. Archery is shèjiàn in China. Isn't it? The word Shè dào is just copy from gyudo(kyudo) Japanese language.

@@Theslaveoflogic 弓道 in my hometown language said gyu do too, and Japan 日本 said : ni bon.

@@Theslaveoflogic 山 Yama. 水 Mizi 大和 yamato these are real japannese language. Gyu (弓）do (道） this is chinese language.

kenji koga read 周礼 did you know that Japanese culture was mainly derived from Korean and pre-Yuan Dynasty Chinese culture?

This is excerpt from “周礼” about the archery ceremony. 军事射箭技术五射：”白矢、参连、剡注、襄尺、井仪。白矢，箭穿靶子而箭头发白，表明发矢准确而有力;参连，前放一矢，后三矢连续而去，矢矢相属，若连珠之相衔;剡注，谓矢行之疾;襄尺，臣与君射，臣与君并立，让君一尺而退;井仪，四矢连贯，皆正中目标。“

@@jasonhuang6078 Japanese archery is original culture. Korean arcery is from Mongorian empire in 元dainasty. Syudy more.

kenji koga I can;t say for sure that Kyoto is derived from Zhou Dynasty’s rituals, but this archery ritual was developed in China long before contact with Japan. Anyways, archery rituals are part of human nature, so I wouldn’t be surprised if different cultures developed similar rituals.

@@jasonhuang6078 The Japanese bow evolved from a simple wood bow and evolved into a synthetic bow of bamboo and wood, and because of its vertical asymmetry, it can be seen as a unique evolution that does not resemble any bow in the world. The posture after the bow branch is fired is also due to the unique nature of the Japanese bow which rotates the bow, and there is no necessity in the Chinese bow. Chinese bows are a composite of tree and buffalo horns and animal Achilles tendons. The bow itself is only a standard human culture that existed in ancient Egypt. It is arrogant and foolish to say that China originated.

She Dao or Chinese Archery is one of the Six arts in Chinese Confucianism and has been since the Zhou dynasty (1046 BC - 256 BC) the reason it’s similar to Kyudo is because it was the influence for kyudo. Japan is in the sinosphere which also include the Koreas and Vietnam all of these countries and their cultures have historically been majorly influenced by China. Chinese archery is lesser known than kyudo but it didn’t copy kyudo.

​​Thank you for your knowledge, clarity and well grounded post. What so many fail to comorehend is the cultural influence of Chungkuo. The Middle Kingdom. China. The Sinosphere. China IS the Greece and Rome of Eastern Asia. China gave these countries the basis of much of the cutural framework of Korea, Japan, and Vietnam. Japan did not have a system of writing until China gave them one. When Japanese ambassadors first visited T'ang China, they were so blown away by the magnificence, glory and sosphistication to their own rustic culture, that they embarked upon importing Chinese culture wholesale. This policy continued, with a few breaks, up until the end of the Ming Dynasty,when the Japanese felt that Ch'ing Dynasty China had nothing new to teach them. The break that vame about from the Manchu takeover, explains the wide divergence, since China became Manchunized in some ways, while Japan and Korea, continued in their traditions. This explains why the Korean court, and what officials wore in Okinawa, retained their Ming Dynasty manner of formal dressing. The Manchus remained in power from 1644 until 1911, and their accent is still present whenever people think about Chinese culture. It is interesting to note from observations from the Japanese who visited China, during the late 19th century and before the war. They found it difficult in reconciliating the modern Chinese, with classical Chinese. They, and many westerners, were not overly impressed with them, and found it hard to believe that these were the same people built the Great Wall, or created classical Chinese civilization. In fact, Westerners could always tell the difference between the Manchus and the Chinese, by their height, the lighter shade of their skins and the way the Manchus carried themselves.

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