I am not upset in the least how the story was changed. The cinematography the costumes the character portrayals perfect. Outside of the unneeded darkling back story and missing Alina's and Mal's kiss before finding the stag
I am so happy they took this seriously and honored the story. I’m bumbed they didn’t save The Darkling’s name as a bug reveal for the end, but I still think they did him well. Tha acting si superb, so are the set design snd costumes. Netflix did a good thing!
I do have some complaints here and there but overall I really enjoyed the show and think it's one of the best adaptations I've seen! I really hope there will be a next season!!
Leigh said it was big budget fanfiction and she did not lie. Amazing showstopping spectacular never been done before gonna give the gays everything they want 😩😍 Alina and Mal pretty much being honorary Crows, Alina and Kaz shaking hands on a deal!!! Zoya playing a magnified role earlier on! They did an amazing job imo. Meanwhile everyone is excited for Nikolai I just want Tolya and Tamar! 😩 (ETA: imagine the first time we see Nadia and Tamar flirting I CANNOT, wait until we see Mal meeting Genya, David, Nadia and bonding with them! UGH. 😭😭😭)
yeah a lot of people were expecting season 2 to be the SOC plot line but leigh made a really good point about the darkling having access to jurda parem and that would be absolutely disastrous so i’m not sure what they’ll be doing but i’m excited to see it! (also nikolai, he’s my fave and i cannot wait to see him brought to life)
Before the second trailer I really thought they will linked the two series by adding the jurda parem sooner : indeed, it would make everything even more disastrous, we'll see if it comes up next season!
I was so nervous for this adaptation but I think they did a great job! They kept all the important scenes and plot points true to the book and the characters are absolutely perfect. Honestly can't wait to see how they do Nikolai in the next season!
I absolutely loved everything about this show! I think the character and casts couldn't be more perfect! I'm so in love and happy with their casting! and I also really loved how the shadow and bone and six of the crow's story were put and mixed together! It was everything I didn't know I needed! I cant wait a year or two for season 2!!!!
This is def one of the best book to screeen adaptation ! Love how they tied together the différents characters and storylines LOVED MORE CROWS STUFF and surprisingly Mal. Costumes actors scenery dialogues banter humour it's almost flawless I liked most changes (except Aleksander, the addition of the love interest backstory and maybe how they made David more attuned and cutesy I liked how out if touch he is in the books) Still we're blessés NOW WE NEED NIKOLAI DAMMIT and Wylan... WE NEED SEASON 2, I dunno how they would play everything given yhere still 2 books for SnB and 6oC but also 2 King of scars.... cant wait need more everything also KANEEEEJ OTP
I don't know if they'll adapt KoS, I hope they do and it makes perfect sense because it deals with all the consequences of the war but I don't think they have bought the right to this series yet. I hope they are just waiting to see if the show is successful enough and if they will get to that point of the story.
Hey I don't remember if you commented on this but did you notice that in episode 2 after the Darkling's Cut scene (after minute 26:30) Jesper and Kaz have this conversation: J: I mean it. We need a demo man. K: You're still on that? J: I just brought it up tonight. K: Jesper, you ask for an explosive expert on every job.. So my theory is we are definitely gettting our favorite demo man next season, we will see Nina slowly become part of the Crows and we will set the crew for the Ice Court in season 3 maybe?? Season 2 feels too soon but who knows..
Yeees !! I loved this little easter egg !! I hope they do that (if they get renewed, fingers crossed). But I am really confused about the situation in Ketterdam : the Dregs and Per Haskell were never mentioned, it almost felt as if Kaz was just the boss of the Crow club and had his little gang and that's all (everyone kept calling him Boss and saying they worked for Kaz and not Per Haskell). I hope it's not it because I love the all gang dynamic, and how Kaz fake being submisive with Per Haskell when everyone knows who is truly running the gang... we'll see.
@@SissouLoveVideo Oh right I didn't notice that.. I also would have liked Per Haskell but now I don't know how they'll introduce him.. Kaz got the job by himself without asking permission.. If he wasn't the boss he wouldn't have been able to get Inej and Jesper away for so much time without asking and promising a cut to Per Haskell.. I guess he doesn't exist in this version..
@@simoneg.2165 Yes, I think Kaz was definitely on his own, and yes that really isn't what upsets me the most. It isn't that big of a deal since he was unofficially the real boss anyway in the books and if he is supposed to be older here then it makes sense that he is already the real leader. I'm mostly curious about the dynamics in Ketterdam and I hope we spend more time with the Crows there in season 2. I feel like they might not have to force the merging of the two storylines so much in season 2 now that the audience knows everyone and that they have all meet, they can leave the Crows in Ketterdam or doing other heists on their own in season 2 and then make them part of the bigger picture again in season 3.
Every episode I watched, I paused in between to watch your reactions and it was such a fun experience watching you fangirl and have some of the same reactions as me. I thought the show was great! I loved how the two stories intersect. I freaking love Inej and Jesper and even *gasp* love the relationship between Mal and Alina. I didn’t think that would ever happen. Great series!
I just finished watching it like an hour and a half ago and I am so satisfied by the entire adaptation. It was amazing and so true to the books. Loved it. Can anyone relate that Alina was even better in the show? Wow 🤩 Anybody know if Season 2 is confirmed?!?
Finished watching. Really enjoy watching it. I only read 'Six of Crows', but now I do understand the grishaverse. I think I will start reading 'Shadow and Bone' book series to delve into the story before season 2 comes out. I love Jesper and Nina actors as they did justice for the characters.
YES! Season 1 Kaz don't feel like mastermind-Kaz just yet but we're getting there. And although I love everybody, Jasper just stole the show for me. Also, petition for Milo the goat cameo in later seasons (I'm joking y'all) 😂
I agree ! I am biased because Kaz is my favorite character but although I really loved the show, my biggest issue was what they did with Kaz. I think the actor did an amazing job, but the writers didn't show enough his abilities : no really crazy ingenious plan, he didn't fight as well as he does in the books ( I loved seeing him using his cane but he is also supposed to carry a gun in case he needs it and here he needed it several times) and no lockpicking ! Therefore, in this first season Jesper (and Milo !) was definitely my favorite character !
@@SissouLoveVideo omg same I would take a bullet for Kaz and I'm so bummed that they didn't show any of his lockpicking skills :( I really loved his intro scene tho and the deKappel references!!!
@@myrang2863 Yes the first episode was great ! And although I was pissed that he got bested by only two men and so quickly in the second episode, I loved how the scene with Pekka hinted at their past, the actor protrayed Kaz's turnoil really well !
I have a feeling Inej is gonna somehow connect back to Alina in the future. The whole "you have my hand" and "we'll see what happens after Helene"... My theory is that she'll somehow tie back into Alina's fight (and consequently the whole gang of crows, cause they'd so anything for Inej)
I love this show. Even something so annoying like accident situation, some stupid dialogue. And actually i want more intense emotional that will make me feel the way character feel cause sometime i feel like i understand their reason but i don't feel that way.
I felt so satisfied every time Jesper shot Ivan tbh 😂 At this point, I really have no idea how they're going to weave the SoC Duo story into Siege and Storm and Ruin and Rising, but I'm still 100% optimistic. I really did love this show. I've read the books so many times that I noticed even the littlest changes in the story (I think), but I actually enjoyed most of those changes, which is super not like my normal reaction to book to screen alterations, like, at all. 😂 9/10! 🖤🖤🖤
I binged the show yesterday with my husband. I’ve read the books but he hasn’t, and we both ended up really enjoying it. I LOVED the way they integrated the Crows. It felt pretty seamless and not at all forced. I love the way everything looked, especially Ketterdam. I also love the way everyone is styled and the costumes are absolute perfection. I like the books, especially SOC, but I wouldn’t say I’m the biggest mega fan, and I thought this show was mostly fantastic. Thanks for all the work you put in to give us these reactions!
I may have binged the rest of these vids today after finishing the season this morning XD and I can't, I'm so here for your gushing about the characters
Glad you liked the show! I LOVED it too! I started reading the books for the first time when the first trailer came out, I'm halfway through book 2 now, so I have not read Six of Crows yet. But I know the story of the first Alina book and I loved how they weaved the Crows into the story of Alina. It felt very natural and logical. I also loved that they kept almost every character from the book in the show, even the minor ones. I LOVED Nina and Matthias, and yes as a gay man I got weak during the 'keeping each other warm' scene haha. That man is simply my dreamguy. Only thing I'm sad about is they cut out the scene at the lake where Alina shows her power at night over the lake. I hope the show gets renewed ASAP. This show needs to go on until the very end on the book stories. I would rate it a 9/9,5 out of 10.
I agree with you on everything! I never realized how much I needed the two crews to team up before now and UGH that was so satisfying I am so happy with how it all turned out! Now I'm just extremely sad it'll be probably like... a year or two until Seige and Storm 🤣
I’ve never read the books, but know you loved the series. So having watched the show and loving every second of it! And now following along with you, and it getting your stamp of approval. I’m starting the books tonight!
After each episode I watched your reaction and it was a great experience because I don’t have anyone to discuss with. So thank you for filming them, I love hearing your opinions and feelings and insights. I feel like although they have deviated from the original work it feels very authentic? Like everything the crows did and planned felt on brand with their characters from SOC and CK. I feel like they could be on to SOC by season 2 or 3 though so I’m not sure how it will all tie together, it’s possible that there will be bigger changes to the books later on because of the smaller changes they’ve already made but as long as it continues to feel in character I’m okay with that. I haven’t been following production so I’m not sure if adding King of Scars later is an option but I could see it picking up before the events of Crooked Kingdom conclude. Can’t wait to hear more of you thoughts on what’s to come.
I'm still trying to gather my thoughts and figure out how to articulate them well. I'm going to watch it again this weekend because my mom expressed interest in watching it as I read the books earlier this year and randomly talked about them to her and expressed my anticipation of the show with her, so I could change my mind on some things or notice more, etc. Something I think I would have preferred is having further backstory for Nina and Matthias in this season. Like, this season focus on Nina in the Grisha army and then she goes away in the second season so she's not there for those events. And focus on Matthias' time as a Druskelle and then capture and meet Nina in the second season; getting their backstory that we read about in SoC during the second season. I would have liked to have established them better as characters first, especially if the show was framed as if we're just following all these different characters in the Grishaverse though Alina is still the main character- if you get what I'm saying. I think it would have blended everyone's storylines better instead of having it seem like Nina and Matthias were a random plotline that non-readers don't understand the significance of. I'm also being a little particular and biased here because Nina and Matthias are my faves and I find their relationship so compelling! I also think having that character establishment would make their backstory feel more interesting because there would be that underlying tension of them trying to survive together while at any moment one could betray the other but they also kind of like each other. I just didn't get that conflict and struggle the way I read it in SoC. OH, also I like Nina telling Matthias about the other Grisha being there when she turned him in *during* SoC. It's not that big of a deal but it's definitely part of the way he thinks about her betrayal until she later reveals the full situation. So I don't like that in the show she tells him before he's off to Hellgate. I love that Mal says, "I'm sorry that it took me this long to see you, Alina. But I see you now." [Episode 6.] I love that they're actually talking and being upfront about things while still keeping those _I'm in love with you_ feelings to themselves, which is fine in my opinion! Alina has a lot going on; lives and the country are at stake; etc. Something I wish was portrayed more is other Grisha at the Little Palace talking about Genya. I feel like her wanting to wear true Grisha colors and feeling like an outsider even in a palace full of other Grisha wasn't shown well and would add to understanding her character better. I think I would have preferred random Grisha talking about the King going to Genya rather than the confrontation Genya has with Alina in the tent, maybe. I'm still questioning how I feel about that confrontation scene because when I read the books I was so occupied with her betraying Alina that I didn't even fully realize her situation, so then during certain scenes in Ruin & Rising I was in shock and didn't care how I previously felt about her. I understood her more and was just like, yeesss Genya! I don't think they'll do the Six of Crows heist until after they finish telling the Shadow and Bone trilogy all the way through because of the jurda parem. I don't see that as a spoiler because people will only know what that is if they've read the SoC duology. I just don't think that would be a good idea to have that at a time with The Darkling / Sun Summoner conflict going on. Hopefully everything there is okay! I don't think I included specific things that were spoilers. I tried being as vague as possible while still maintaining some clarity. Other than storyline stuff: the cast and costumes and music are amazing!! A+. Sometimes the power special effects look weird but for the most part they're great and don't take me out of the show, which I think is most important! Alright, this is a long enough comment, lol!
Inej throwing a dagger at the Darkling and making him bleed gave me life. I loved the conversation with Alina and Inej, it was so sweet!! Loved your reactions and I'm glad you loved the show!!
I enjoyed the grisha trilogy, but they weren’t my absolute favorite books i’ve ever read, but I am absolutely loving this show. The show is making me love this story so much more because we are out of Alina’s head and we get to see so much more. Revealing the Darkling’s name is my only major complaint, everything else has been amazing. I feel like this universe was meant for tv.
I’ve only read Six of Crows and not S & B and was blown away by this show. It was so fun to hear your thoughts after I watched each episode, thank you!!!
The whole group being together was so good!!!! And when she gives her the knife!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cryingggggg!!! I really loved this season. So excited for season 2 and really excited to reread the books in the meantime since it has been *years.* I can't wait for Nina and Matthias to start being in the show instead of their road trip side quest that was basically disconnected from everything else going on lol. I did love all their scenes obviously, but it felt like a different show every time we cut to them. But yes anyway a great show out of great books can't wait for more
I really loved the show, was better than I hoped for and even my boyfriend who had never read or heard about the books was having a good time watching with me aswell. Also been ages since I read the books but they are one of my all time faves so had high expectations though it was hard to compare it with the books at this point 😅 Really enjoyed Kaz and Inej's spark togeather and him literally attacking a damn Volkra for her was just the best ! Also agree with you that it's great to see more of Mal and it makes his romance with Alina even better 👌 Really looking forward to season 2 and hope we will get more Crow stuff related to the books now and hope to see some of my fave scenes and lines delivered there. Aswell as seeing Nikolai and show Alina coming into her power and become even more badass
OMG I loved it! I've only seen the show, but I did buy all the books today and have a busy book weekend planned. Going to start a rewatch tonight already. 😁
Like many people, I kept wondering how they were going to intertwine the Shadow and Bone and Six of Crows characters but boy did they deliver. I ended up loving Mal and Jesper a lot more in the show then in the books and I loved Nina so much. They were so well developed.
Your cats seem genuinely scared for you. They went on that journey with you :) Just finished it all and loved it. No words really. The quality of production and acting was unreal.
This was a great first season, and the Darkling come back makes me maybe wanna read the second 2 books, or find in depth summaries. I didn't think he was dead though. Off scene deaths always mean the villain will be back. In general, I'm thoroughly enjoying the deviation from the source material. It's been fascinating to see these characters all together. I agree with your theory that we're probably going to see at least 2 separate plots next season.
I wonder what the next season is going to be like, will there be a potential love triangle with Nikolai, Alina and Mal ??? Because they changed that narrative of Mal and Zoya being a potential threat to Alina and Mal’s relationship so idk if there will be space for us to consider Nikolai as a love interest. This episode was my favourite loved how they changed things to add the crows to the fighting scene with the darkling. And I did get to see how Nina was incorporated in the end, at first I was questioning a bit why we got to see her so soon but I guess it makes sense with the ending.
I enjoyed this adaptation a lot! I'm not mad about the changes that were made for this season (hoping I won't be mad about future changes either but only time will tell), and I'm excited and curious about how it will change the story. I was in it a lot for the characters anyway, but there are, of course, some plot points that I expect to be included (slightly altered to fit the show is fine). I think it's a solid first season and I'm mad I watched it all in one day bc now what???
I have it finished the book series but have watched the show twice now and I have a question: if you cannot be tested true as a grisha If you are injured. Can a Grishas power still work if he/she is I hustled?? So do you know?
I have questions??? So I didn’t read six of crows yet?? So I was a little lost when the 3people in show ! So do u think I should read the book before the 2nd season? ????
I loved seeing and listening to your thoughts on the series. I’ve never read the books but I am now definitely interested in doing so! I know you have patreon for suggestions but I’m just curious if you’ve ever read the Fallen series by Lauren Kate. My absolute favorite book series and would like to see your thoughts :)
I’ve actually only read the first and half of the second Grisha books, and just Six of Crows - I didn’t actually like the books too much, found them a bit boring. I watched the show and I actually quite enjoyed it! One gripe however is the overwhelming lack of romantic chemistry between Kaz and Inej? Or any chemistry at all? They felt so professional with each other... I hope it grows in the next season and there’s more of a spark between them.
I was wondering if they were trying to set up something with Zoya and Inej maybe being distantly related because they're both Suli. There was that moment during the party where that rich woman called Inej Zemini and Zoya is like no she's Suli. I was like oh damn you recognize her because you're half Suli. Also on the skiff I think its Inej calling out to Zoya saying her name, or it might be the other way, I can't remember but I was like how do you know her name?
I thought they did a wonderful adaptation of the book. The S&B book stuff was perfection, but (and probably unpopular opinion) I thought the Six of Crows stuff was a bit subpar. The actors were great, but I think the decision to leave out important backstory (the show never even said that Kaz can't touch people) and not enough Kaz/Inej pining was a disappointment to me.
Exposing the name Aleksander and underdeveloped Alina’s training at little palace were my two disappointments, but I don’t think any adaptations can hit A+ for all fans, I can’t believe the moment I truly needed was Alina and Inej forming a friendship on the ship with her gifting Inej a blade 🥰 BFF I’m officially Malina yes the minority, which I don’t mind a bit, that said, I think it’s wise to keep their kiss in the next season so Alina doesn’t give away her kisses all in the first season LoL, I do wonder if Mal will be linked to a new amplifier as some have worded... Inej, Kaz and the most adoring Jesper have risen to the best trio, their dynamic is 🔥
Had a good time, but I’m conflicted about the finale. I feel like the series has really accelerated the timeline. The Darkling is already power trippin’ HARD out here, destroying a whole(?) city. I think the Darkling was still somewhat worried about appearances and the King’s opprobrium at this point in the book? Does this move make sense for him? Also, attacking foreign dignitaries? He wants to intimidate, not get them all killed, right? And because he’s Mask Off now, Zoya is also already noping out way before she does in the books. I wonder how this accelerated timeline will change the way the Siege and Storm storyline plays out. Also, Mal definitely comes across as more adult and less sullen teenager in the adaptation, so him standing up to the Darkling here is more credible. But I’m not sure I buy the two getting into a fistfight. I mean ... the Darkling would just murk him, right? Like on the spot. No need for him to throw a punch.
I think you’re misremembering. At the end of the first book, he did go on the skiff with foreign dignitaries and expand the fold. The only differences in this adaptation are the Crows aboard the skiff, Zoya witnessing it first hand, the dignitaries being killed by a heartrender, and Alina taking the whole skiff. In the original series, Alina drops her power and runs off with Mal, leaving everyone on the skiff (including the dignitaries) to the volcras. Zoya I think only heard about the fold expanding and didn’t see it.
Him expanding the fold was at the end of book one so it’s really not sped up. Some of the details changed but not in enough of a way that he changed quicker or anything. I do agree about the fistfight though. I was wondering as they were fighting why the Darkling wasn’t just using magic.
@@biblionerd @Thoughts on Tomes It’s been years since I read the books, so you guys know better than me. Although I do think there is a difference having Alina run away vs. directly attacking the foreign dignitaries with Grisha powers. And I guess I thought Darkles would at least make more of a pretense of saying, “And with the authority and blessings of the Ravkan crown, I am now putting all pf you on notice.” Instead of unilaterally doing everything on his own. I felt like in the books it was clear why the Grisha were loyal to him and would follow him into the abyss, whereas here, I was just like, “😦 u scary and out of control.”
I can’t wait to hear your final thoughts. As someone who really loves the Grishaverse, I really enjoyed the series and all the moments I couldn’t wait to see onscreen. However, stepping out of those shoes and looking at the show from the eyes of someone whose never cracked open the books, I feel like the writing missed the mark and fell a bit flat. With the exception of the childhood connection between Mal and Alina (which I thought was even better in the show than the books), the show didn’t capture the level of emotion from the books. It felt a little muddled and some foundational storyline issues were underdeveloped. Talking to a bunch of friends who’ve never read the books, they were confused for half the season.
Hi! I've never read the Shadow & Bone trylogy or Six of Crows. I was really interested in Six of Crows but I can't read it because of the trigger warnings. So I trust you if you say that I can watch at least the show, I will.
@@ThoughtsOnTomes Thanks for answering. The TW that made avoided the book is sexual abuse, I don't know if it's mentioned or described, the last being the worst for me.
While I did like the change of the antlers being embedded into Alina's skin because of how horrific it is, I'm a little annoyed that David did it. He's a Fabrikator? He can't affect the human body? How did he manipulate skin like that? That part doesn't make sense. I know this is minor but it's bugging me.
I have the theory that this season was more the prequel of their pining, in the sense that kaz develops more romantic feelings and attachtment from these seasons events on. My base for this: in ep 4 Inej hands him her blades before her performance, while keeping eye contact. In the short moment after that interaction, kaz seems to need a short moment to ...compose himself? And from that point on, it seems to me he starts to stare more. I don't feel like inej is doing this in a seducing way but rather to challenge kaz a little with his own words ("as a friend once said, if can't ...none of us will"), and in my mind this banter combined with the rest sparks something more in kaz. Of course one can argue that he pawns off the crow club before this. And of course I might be a little bit to obsessed with them and reading way to much of what I want into their interactions.
(warning self-harm topic )Her the thing as someone who had to watch a loved one Physically hurt them selves to the point of bleeding in the name of love and is so traumatized that I've never been in a relationship or in love and never plan on being in one who took 20 years of Therapy just so I can watch love in fiction I can't tell you how much it took not to have a break down when I saw kid Alinla harm her self and bleed just to stay with mal and mabey I don't remember it in the books but are we going to just Pretend that Alina is not responsible for the death of her teem because of her obsession with mal yeah very healthy relationship I'm supposed to ship it NO some on need to speak about this this is not ok
Not gonna lie, I was disappointed with the show, even though I went in with lower expectation after the teasers. The things they did well, they did super well, chef´s kiss! But unfortunately, at least for me, both the story and the character work left a lot to be desired. This is such a shame because the books themselves are cinematic enough. They had a perfect blueprint, but still, they decided to rework almost the whole thing, and as it usually goes, the result is watered down a lot for my taste. No matter how pretty the package, if the heart and soul are not quite there, I´m always going to be disappointed. But there´s an easy solution - I´m already halfway through book one! :) Loved your videos though, and I am genuinely happy so many people enjoyed the show. In the end, art is subjective, and this one just wasn´t for me.
Honestly this was one of the weakest episodes for me. I didn’t love the dialogue and wish it had been 10 episodes instead of 8 to give the big moments more time. Overall still loved the show but this episode and the fist were the weakest for me.
