Shadow systems made some real good changes to the Glock platform! I own several Glocks and a SS And I Like them both so, I don’t care about hate. Never ever sell your ego to a pistol 😉
We love to hear feedback like this! So thanks for that! What people don’t see is the behind the scenes work that goes on. We have a very dynamic team and everyone brings something special to the table. From the gun knowledge and experience, to the camera work and production, to the editing, marketing, etc... Growing as a gun related channel is not easy on RU-vid, but we won’t stop until we hit that 1M mark! Glad to have you along for the ride!
@@HuntFishShootChannel can’t wait to see how the channel grows and excited to see the future content. Another awesome + is communication, you’re always in the comments taking feedback and communicating with your viewers. I love the personal feel it has to it.
We enjoy giving everyone feedback whether the comment is negative or positive. Let alone we as a channel are all firearms enthusiasts who also enjoy the great outdoors and talking about the guns we shoot! Thank you again for following along!
3k subs? How? This is top notch content. You must be low on youtube algorithms, because I would have said 700 plus easily. This is my third video of yours and I'm truly impressed. Keep up the good work brother.
We appreciate that! RU-vid doesn’t make it easy to grow as a “gun channel”. It took months before they started suggesting our content, but things are growing substantially now. We are hoping that we will be able to break through a few more milestones this year, especially with what we have planned! Thanks for watching and thanks for the support Andrew!
I have never been a huge Glock fan. I have shot them, but never owned one. But the reviews sold me on giving the MR920 a shot. Got mine close to a year ago and I couldn't be happier. It was everything the reviewers said. It replaced my EDC almost instantly. Even though it is (for me, personally) leaning on the larger size for an EDC, the confidence I have shooting it, and the results I get shooting it, made the decision for me. My only problem is I can't shoot it as much as I have wanted to because of the shortage. This thing wants to RUN. It's about as enjoyable a shooting experience as I have found with a polymer frame striker fired pistol. Especially one I would seriously consider carrying.
Absolutely love mine, flattest shooting glock style pistol I've shot. I thought my glock 45 would be my end all be all.....nope. shadow hands down no questions asked. Best customer service in the market as well!!!
Great review Sir! I have the MR920 Combat and love it. Your comment about the Staccato is spot on. The Staccato is hard to beat, but for the price, I'll take the MR920 any day. Additionally, your observation about the grip angle and it's similarity to the 1911 is on target. My Colt Combat Elite is my standard for accuracy, I shoot it better than any of my pistols, but the MR920 is pretty dang close. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for doing your review on the CZP10C. I had made up my mind I was buying a Glock gen 5. I thought about the CZP10C and bought 1 from Buds for $381.00. It is a great weapon and I am happy I went this way. Thanks for your great REVIEW!!
I bought an MR920 Combat a few months ago. I really like shooting with it. So much so, I put a War Poet pistol on back order, and found a FDE MR920 Elite. Really good value for what you’re getting.
@@Sievert31 all of them are holding up really well. I qualified with my department to use the FDE MR920 elite as my off duty pistol, and had zero issues.
Wow! Thank you Joshua. We appreciate your support and checking out our channel! We are still under 2 years old as a channel and we will always strive to create the best content we can!
Bought my first ever handgun today & it was this beaut. Got a killer deal for it too, perks of knowing someone who is a higher up within a huge gun company. 🙃
This video sold me on it. I have the 4.15” staccato p and planned on getting the c2 but I thinks it’s just to similar to my p to justify 2300 bucks. With this I can get an rmr, x300, holster and extra mags. Good video man. Subbed.
Right if you have a P already the C2 is very similar. I have the C2 and it shoots better than a shadow systems but the MR920 is an awesome gun and. Very close second at like a third of the cost.
I have the Foundation MR920 and... I tell ya what, it's taken the place of all of my handguns.. it fits Soo well in hand.. looks amazing and runs smooth.. great review brother
It’s the gen 4 platform I believe. Switch in an apex connector to it and that trigger is amazing for a striker fired pistol. I have the DR 920 and it’s my favorite pistol I’ve ever owned still to this day.
It’s off of a Gen 3 as are all the Glock clones due to the patent running out. They are sweet for sure, I’m sure in the near future I will pick up a DR920!
Nice review! Appreciate to see someone with a staccato C2 compare them a bit. That shadow systems is a great deal. A lot of work already done for not that much more. Than a standard Glock.
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This is the best shooting poly pistol on the market, and I've shot damn near all of them. Its gets back on target so efficiently. The short reset makes u wanna go fast.
@@HuntFishShootChannel I have a dr920 going to be here tomorrow. I shot my mr920 next to my p226 legion SAO and it even out shined that pistol. The mr920 is so efficient in everything it does.
I think you are all in on this, I blame each of you for me wanting one of these, it's everyone's fault that I have this pistol desire. Thank you fellows for guiding me toward another fine pistol. Great review also 👍
Didn't hear him mention the Holosun but you can add the Holosun upon ordering and it comes with it for cheaper than you can buy it. 1150 gets you a fully ready custom gun. Add your favorite light and then try to build your Glock the same way and you would be close to 2 grand. They do a great job of giving you a nice custom for under 1200 although it's already quite controllable they are really really good once ported
I watched a number of your videos in the past two months. And now I’m watching this video because I’m considering picking up this pistol and then I realized I was not subscribed to your channel….. my apologies sir, keep up the good work and stay safe out there. Just subbed!
@@HuntFishShootChannel Hey you’re welcome. I actually bought this online 30 minutes ago because of this review. I was considering getting the 509t but I’ve only seen people running the 508t or 507. I’m gonna do some more research.
I bought one of these a couple weeks ago and was able to take it to the range. also have a holosun 507C x2 GREEN on mine. by far the best shooting gun I have had. I traded a G45 mos towards this. Still have 2 G19 gen 5s to go with it too at home. one is an MOS with same optic but red dot. the gen 5 shoots very well too but this MR920 is sweet. light too!! like a glock on steroids! but still dependable unlike many modded Glocks and USA manufactured!
Absolutely! It’s very light and shoots really flat! I enjoy shooting it a lot and the holosun is a excellent red dot for the money. Thank you for watching!
Love mine... 400 hundred rounds and all good. I am accustomed to the 1911 grip angle and have steered clear of the glock because of the way they line up but with the grip system it lines up exactly as my Les Bear 1911. Very accurate and flat like they advertise
Grip angle has kept me away from glocks as well and I always considered myself a sig guy (considering my price range) then I handled this gun.. Now I'm patiently waiting for it to come in stock to make it my new ccw.
110% agree . I've became huge fan of the MR920 & MR920L Combat Optic Ready . I've been using G19 since 2006 . So I'm fan for sure . I rarely use G19 anymore since picking up 920s . The 920L I got month or so ago and absolutely love it . The 19x or G45 never made much sense to me . So when the 920L came out I jumped all over it . The mods that come from the factory make Stock Glock look pretty silly. Plus the MOS sucks balls. MR mounting system is light years better .
Agreed on all points! The optics mounting platform on the shadow system is arguably one of the best in the industry from the factory. The 920 is such a nice shooting gun, it’s hard not to like!
The Glock Fan Bois are livid when my son and I go to the range and smoke them with the Shadow systems MR920 and CR920. They get even more livid when we do it with the Caniks. They just pack up and leave when we pull out the CZ's. The Shadow Systems 920 line simply walk the dog on anything Glock has ever put out. Shadow Systems are what all Glocks wish they could be. Can you make a Glock good? Sure you can. But not near as good as a Shadow Systems for the same price. Glocks are dependable for sure. But after thousands of rounds through the Shadows, not a single malfunction. But just liek any other gun, including Glocks, all guns, and yes I said all guns, you will eventually find an ammo that the gun does not like. Difference is, the Shadow Systems is consistently way more accurate than any Glock out of the box. So Glock fan bois, do yourself a favor and leave your biased and cocky attitude at home or in the car at the range and you will see if you shoot a Shadow Systems 920 gun what a real Glock Pattern gun can be straight out of the box. GREAT VIDEO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
@@HuntFishShootChannel So I took it to the range this past week. Had three different feed failures. I’ve contacted customer support about the magazine. Aside from that, once the Holosun was zeroed, had great performance on the paper targets.
Don’t forget their 200 round break in period which they make known. If issue persist definitely contact them. Their customer service is awesome from what we have heard.
I have had mine for a few months now. I also have a few 1911's. I am a huge fan of the 1911 grip angle. The mr920, while a very slight improvement on the standard glock grip angle, is still not a 1911 grip angle. It still points high for me. I haven't tried a wolf frame to see if that's closer. Also first 2 mags shot through it, the last round in each was a failure to feed. (shooting s&b hollow point) That doesn't seem like an issue with the gun, but an issue with the mags. I still have to test a bunch more, but if it continues to do it, I'll have to get a bunch of oem glock mags to try instead. Waiting to do that until I have enough extra ammo to shoot a couple hundred without depleting my stock to nearly nothing. Trigger is significantly better than a standard glock. Optics cut is great. I got it with the holosun and really liking that too. Hoping after some break in it will be flawless so I can trust it enough to carry. Right now that's not the case. I still think it's a better value than piecing one together.
It’s a fantastic value and an awesome shooter! Definitely give it that 200 round break in period, if you haven’t try out the other back straps they sent and see if you can adjust the point for you! Thank you for watching!
@@HuntFishShootChannel yep. I did swap out the back strap to the "L" one which is supposed to be closest to 1911 grip angle. Still points high when I comfortably extend. Over the years of shooting different glocks (and other pistols with similar grip angle) I have just learned to almost hyper extend my arms a bit which forces my wrist to curl down. When I do that I don't have to force my wrist down and I immediately have the sight picture. It's not necessarily uncomfortable, but something I have to be aware of when using any pistol like that. After watching every review of the 920 I could find, reading comments and articles, etc. It seems the failure to feed is pretty common during break in. I'm hoping that's the case. It was just odd that it happened on the last round of the mag every time. That was leading me to believe it was more due to the mag than the gun. I'll have to blow through a couple hundred rounds of white box ball ammo and try the hollow points again.
Good call and I know they are super quick with customer service and even claim a one week turnaround. So if you are having issues persistently I wouldn’t hesitate to contact costumer service. Mine was 100% reliable regardless of what it was fed from round one to almost 600 now.
Yep. It's not a 1911, but it's close. It's just like the HK p7 grip angle (110 degrees). FWIW: The 1911 has a 108 degree grip angle and standard glock is 112 degrees, so the MR920 is right in between a glock and 1911. The PMAGS also suck. Put in standard glock mags and your mag issues will go away... Especially if you are suffering from the pre-mature slide lock issue (locks back when there is still one round in the mag).
The large grip is the Glock similar angle. The medium grip is the neutral grip similar to a smith and Wesson or sig. the small grip is the one for simulating a 1911 grip. I think you have a grip problem if it’s pointing high. Most people that point a stock Glock with a 1911 grip naturally points down. When you modify a stock Glock frame with a deep undercut, it also makes it want to point down. I think you need to invest into some training, because after legit training you can go from a 1911 to stock Glock with a proper grip and it’ll point naturally, and in no instance of proper grip of any platform will it point up. I have over 8k rounds through magpul mags without issues in stock glocks and a shadow systems. I own 10 magpul mags and 8 Oem Glock mags for the 19 platform and 8magpul mags in the 17 platform. I had Two last round failures in my MR920 with both oem and magpul mags on the first four mags put through the gun The gun has tighter fitting components and needs a proper breakin. I highly recommend a little extra oil on the barrel and slide where the barrel ramp meets the slide during breakin. Too many people talk shit about magpul mags without experience with them, just like they did with AR mags when they were first put to market and now they are the industry standard, including the military and LE.
@@HuntFishShootChannel I'm not going to B.S. I love! My Smith&Wesson M&P9 2.0 4.25 metal. OUTSTANDING pistol. Was going to buy Smith&Wesson competitor metal. But, after laying down now 1,300 rounds on my MR920L. I this close 🤏 to buying shadow systems DR920L. BUT! Walter's Q4 sf non optic cut, is next. Then DR920L. I'm not a red dot person. But, if I get that DR920L. yes sir. That pistol will get a red dot.
We've also reviewed the Shadow Systems DR920... arguably one of the best options for a duty pistol. Check out the review here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2og3EZfAvks.html
Great content, immediately subscribed! I would love to see the warrior poet version on the elite configuration. Wanted to support the WPS as well as get the version I actually want. Phenomenal gun!
You should try the Stoeger STR-9S Combat. It is an upgraded Glock for $499. You will be amazed how good the STR-9S Combat is, compared to the $900 plus Shadow Systems pistol.
@@HuntFishShootChannelFind one and it won't disappoint you. The Stoeger STR-9S Combat comes with red dot optics ready cut, fiber optic sights, front and rear serrations, a 4.67" threaded barrel, a flat smooth trigger, solid grip stippling, 3 extended base 20 rounds magazines included, a comp type magwell, the internal mechanism almost Glock identical... ALL that, at the amazing price (I paid) of $499 dollars plus taxes (MSRP is $549). Why to buy a Shadow Systems for $900 plus dollars? When you can buy a Stoeger STR-9S Combat for $500! Get it. You won't be disappointed. In fact, you will be amazed!
The AmeriGlo sights will co-witness with the Trijicon RMR but WILL NOT co-witness with the Delta Point Pro. It will require a taller sights and Shadow Systems recommends the AmeriGlo 5XL.
...add....if the upgrades e.g. RDO have to be shipped to countries like Canada....the gun shops need to recover their shipping costs....so the cost is higher there too. And they have to make a profit. Making the RDO cost almost as much as a new G19 Gen5. Potentially. If they're looking to buy a RMR or Aimpoint ARCO p2....2 of the most expensive RDO's....not sure if CDNs can get the Steiner MPS which might be THE most expensive pistol RDO.
One key note he forgot to mention or I think he did I’m still watching this video while I’m typing this out if u read there manual you’ll use that if this gun was used in a self defense situation and you were found not guilty and everything worked out and u happen to still lose the gun or the cops just don’t give it back to you shadow systems will give you another gun without any charges. Now that’s amazing especially if your like me and only have one gun for everything. And for that reason alone shadow systems won me over
@@Freakingstang same! I sold my 19 got the Mr920 and never looked back. Just got the Walther PDP and the hype is real the trigger is unreal best I have ever used. Getting a Canik tp9sfx next!
I think someone should compare it to a Zev clone. I think it's a fine gun. But my 19 clone spot is occupied by my dagger for now. I think it compares closely to a Zev clone, and that speaks volumes about what you're getting in an mr920.
@@HuntFishShootChannel I'm happy with it. Mine came cerakoted with a threaded barrel because it was " blemmished". I still haven't found the blemish they're talking about.
Awesome! Glad to hear that! I’m a big fan of blem guns when you find them because if you are shooting on a regular occasion and using them as a tool they look blemished quickly
A very important note. Although love my MR920, regardless whether you've put 1k rounds through it, will NOT fire (feed ramp jam) certain 115g or 145g manufacturer ammo such as MAGTECH and Blazer. because the bullet length. There could be other brands that do this as well, but I haven't tested. Both my friend and I have the MR920 and over 1k rounds through both and they both jam with 115g or 145g MAGTECH and Blazer. Something to seriously consider if you're in a life or death situation. Not good to have a gun jam because of the ammo. Shadow Systems will insist they'll shoot any 9mm ammo and that's simply not true. My other 9mm pistols shoot the same ammo all day no issue.
In three separate pistols the MR920, DR920 XR920 and never had an issue with any ammo I have ran through it. I have experienced ammo issues with Magtech in both 45 ACP and 10mm where it was literally larger on chamber diameter than it should be for specs. It’s likely the ammo in your case, I have shot a lot of blazer both aluminum and brass case through the Shadow systems pistols with no issues. It is possible it’s the gun but if you are experiencing those issues with those two brands in particular but not other 115 or 145 grain brands, look at the ammo. Unfortunately with the ammo Market being how it is, the quality has been slipping in order to meet demand. If it’s the pistol and you can say that definitively, then you need to reach out to Shadow Systems and I have no doubt they will get it straightened out.
@@HuntFishShootChannel It's not the ammo. Especially when you fire multiple boxes of the ammo and then send a box from that lot to the ammo manufacturer on which they perform ballistic tests and determine it's NOT the ammo. Do you now how many times I've heard, "It's the ammo" which is NOT true in my case.
Well then it sounds like you need to contact Shadow Systems. Are you telling us you went as far to send ammo for testing and before you did it with the pistol? That’s a bit backwards, like we said no issues for us with any ammo tried. Contact Shadow Systems and get your pistol taken care of.
@@HuntFishShootChannel I did contact Shadow Systems. They said it's my ammo. I think they probably don't want to face the possibility that maybe their milling is slightly off. Could you imagine what a barrel recall would cost?
Well you can’t have a recall with an isolated incident or an extremely low number. There is not an ammo we have had an issue with in three different pistols from them. Sorry to hear you have had the issues. If I can leave you with any advice, with all guns we review we generally shoot the cheapest 9mm or 45 or 10mm we can find. If we have an issue we will dive into other brands and bullet weights to see if the issues persist and then finally test the ammo we are having issues with in a specific gun in another weapon. This is all done in an attempt to narrow down the cause of the issue. Generally, failure to feeds are caused from out of spec chamber, bad barrel Ramp cut, out of spec ammo. Failure to eject can be bad extractor Or bad ammo out of spec. Some issues are also magazine related. Once I have completed ruled out the ammo, I then diagnose what is causing the issue with the gun. Is it a bad recoil spring, bad extractor, bad ramp or bad mags. All of these can be found out by the user usually, an out of spec chamber is possible and I have experienced this before. It’s unfortunate but the problem was remedied quickly by Springfield in a particular occurrence. Finally there are some guns that just will not shoot a certain ammo brand or type. This does not mean they are unreliable, this simply means they are unreliable with that ammo. Kinda like the old don’t throw the baby out with the bath water. I will leave you with this, I carry a Sig P320 carry size for duty, I have found ammo brands and weights which do not function reliably as much as I would like. But it functions my duty ammo flawlessly and the ammo I use for training works great, I trust it to protect the citizens which I serve and myself. I just know I can’t use ammo X in grain X. For you, carry whatever you feel is best for you. Remain objectionable when looking at guns and ammo.
Great Channel and excellent reviews! Stumbled on this channel looking for content on the MR/DR920 and the Walther PDP; and you review both. I'm thinking about getting either MR920 or DR920 by Shadow Systems or the Walther PDP. Just curious how would you compare the MR920 to the PDP and which do you prefer? Thanks
We are glad you came across our channel! They are both excellent handguns. I would probably buy the PDP over the Shadow Systems. They are both really nice handguns which shoot great. The PDP is about $300 dollars cheaper which will leave you with more money to spend on a red dot, ammo, magazines or holster. The M920 is definitely a flatter shooting gun as are all the Glock designs, they lend themselves to be that way because of how well you can control recoil with them. But it’s not that much better than a PDP. They both have trade offs and in all honesty you really couldn’t go wrong with either.
@@HuntFishShootChannel Thank God you said that because I was literally about to purchase the MR920 Elite this afternoon but I love my PDP w/the 507c. Great review of both pistols.
It’s actually not occurring. Watch the slow motion portion at the very beginning. It’s due to the camera angle, brass ejection and fast reciprocation of the slide it appears that way.
Decisions, decisions. It depends on purpose but if you are looking for something duty or home defense in full-size like this or compact then I would say the PDP and you will save money. If you need something for concealed carry, the shadow is smaller and also smaller than the compact PDP so it will conceal easier. Recoil management on the shadow is a little better but not enough to say it’s way better than a PDP. If you want to save money, you can get the PDP put a red dot on it and be the same price as a Shadow Systems with no dot. They are both awesome pistols and couldn’t go wrong with either of them.
I like doing my owen upgrades for my glock I can get such a deep ledge and my polishing job under the trigger guard I due better also aftermarket crushes I can run different magwells and choose owen sights which I wouldn't run anything except Costa sights from night fison and trigger ill take a timny so my aftermarket glock just rages at the range I also like my trigger weight to be 3.5 lbs so I due a tti grandmaster spring kit I love it you can get for that money a oz9 .
Still give the zev a slight advantage over the shadow except in grip texture and I love glock and glock clones for me won’t beat a CZ kills a sig for me 3 malfunctions in the first 50 been good since
In other reviews, a common theme I observe is that the shell ejection pattern is haphazard, sometimes hitting the operator. Have you experienced that with your gun? If so, did it go away after a while?
No, not a single time. I have fired about 600 rounds through mine. They do state specifically the gun has a 200 round break in period when you browse the manual.
I’ve heard some complaints about the slide release. I wonder if they have some QC issues because I just got mine last week and I haven’t put a single round through it. And the slide release is great. And I struggle with some slide releases.
No I don’t think it’s anything like that, some guns just have stiff slide releases out of the box, this one has softened up a little more now and is getting easier!
That’s a never ending quest. Sitka Gear Gunner gloves, First Lite Shale Hybrid Touch gloves are great. They are hunting gloves geared towards shooting. PIG delta gloves are what I’m wearing here and I use them at work. They work well, but aren’t the warmest and wouldn’t want to wear them for extended periods of time, like 2 hours or more. PIG makes some cold weather ones which I bet are good considering how well the other gloves they have for shooting are. Lastly I have some Mechanix fast fit CW gloves which I can shoot fairly well In them but not a favorite, yet only costs about $20 bucks!
Is the grip angle or frame ergonomics on the Shadow Systems pistol different than a standard Glock? Wasn't sure if it is more similar to a 1911 grip angle vs the Glock 22 degree angle.
Great video. Just curious if you considered the MR920L or DR920 when you picked this up given their longer sight radius and barrel. Maybe the barrel helps to cover down okay. I’m leaning to Shadow Systems versus buying the G17 or G19 Gen 5. I want an easy shooter that’s dead accurate at 45 feet. Other considerations are the Sig Sauer P320 class (M17 or xcompact) and Springfield MP 2.0. Thoughts?
I went to what the MR920 due to the shorter barrel for easier concealment and the DR is a full size duty pistol. If you can afford it I would 100% buy this over a standard Glock. This model is an easy shooter and 45 ft shouldn’t give you any problems at all with any gun you choose with the right grip and trigger control. The Sig x compact and x carry are very nice and have a lot to offer. The Smith and Wesson is a bit behind the times kinda like a standard Glock and the XDM elite from Springfield is awesome. There are a ton of great options pick what fits and feels best for you!
The slide release did break in, easily changed out of wanting something else. When I sold it to fund other guns for the channel, I had roughly 600 rounds through it with no malfunctions!
Which issues? I have put a lot of rounds through both the M920 and now my DR920. They have been nothing but reliable. Fear not. Not to mention scour the forums enough and there isn’t a pistol or gun make and model you won’t find some issues on in isolated cases.
