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Shakespeare's Other Pen Names Revealed! with Robert Prechter 

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Robert Prechter took the Shakespeare Authorship world by storm with the publication of his twenty four-volume magnum opus "Oxford's Voices". Researched and written over the course of 25 years, "Oxford's Voices" offers the first ever comprehensive look at the man who wrote Shakespeare's entire catalog, from juvenilia and pranks, to song lyrics, state propaganda, and much more. I hope you'll enjoy our wide ranging conversation! Part 1 focuses on Edward de Vere's juvenilia, including song lyrics, practical jokes, and even the instructions for a highly complicated board game. Check back next week for part 2, and in the meantime, for more about Bob's book, check out oxfordsvoices.com.
Follow this channel, as well as my TikTok account (tiktok.com/@phoebe_devere) to learn more about Edward De Vere, the 17th Earl of Oxford, who wrote Shakespeare's plays under a pseudonym.
Though some call it a conspiracy, notable thinkers from Mark Twain to Sigmund Freud have been convinced that the real Shakespeare was not the man from Stratford-Upon-Avon. Future videos will continue to present evidence suggesting that "William Shakespeare" was actually the pen name of Edward De Vere, a notorious courtier who served Queen Elizabeth and was said by his contemporaries to have been the greatest living writer of comedies.

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@DrWrapperband
@DrWrapperband Месяц назад
Robert's book is amazing. The only head ache was loosing your place with ~3300 pages .....
@ronroffel1462
@ronroffel1462 Месяц назад
Hi Phoebe, thanks for the nice reply. I always look forward to your views and information at the Blue Boar Tavern. Unfortunately I had to miss the last third of the latest episode due to technical problems with our internet connection. Imagine having fibre optic cables running all over the city, yet the service still craps out on the majority of people here and you get what we go through. The boxes attached to the cable does not know how to communicate very well with each other. I hope that for the next meet up, I don't have that problem. Back to the latest BBT. I agree with you that Bacon cold not have been the author. My principal reason is that he did not have the skill with words nor did he have the time. He was too busy being a lawyer, amateur scientist, and all-around schemer to devote any time to writing plays. He never had the strong connections that de Vere had to writers or the theater. His writing style is vastly different than what is found in the works. There is a host of other reasons but Baconians approach their man with the same quasi-religious fervour that Stratfordians have, so it is nearly impossible to get them to understand why they are on the wrong track. Anyways, have a super rest of the day and stay safe.
@tomgoff6867
@tomgoff6867 Месяц назад
Phoebe's comment on Pessoa is astute, partly because Pessoa isn't only playing for play's sake, nor is he merely generating buzz around a heteronym's supposed work, but also is discovering just what differentiates one invented personality (say, Alberto Caeiro) from another invented personality (like Ricardo Reis). It seems likely De Vere was using his multiple voices with similar purpose, to similar effect--birthing the playwright he became.
@Alacrates
@Alacrates Месяц назад
Great discussion! Looking forward to the next installments. I liked the upgrade in the production too, the intro graphics & animations were well done. Not sure if you two are doing more on de Vere's early years, but I'd be interested to hear more about the translations of Ovid's Metamorphoses & Apuleius's Metamorphoses - to me those two chapters on Arthur Golding and William Addlington were the most fascinating parts of Robert Prechter's writing on de Vere's possible early works. (Though the discussion you had here about the Arthur Brooke's "Romeus and Juliet" was probably equally as fascinating, as well as the information about the actual William Fullwood, that was interesting - seems hard to square that guy's life with the works attributed to him.) Also loved the discussion of Fulwood's Castle of Memory.
@phoebenir7093
@phoebenir7093 Месяц назад
Thanks Daniel!!
@ContextShakespeare1740
@ContextShakespeare1740 Месяц назад
Great work, I have found a few dedications that have a similar style, the words travel or travail or labour seem to be interchangeable and common in dedications of works that are suspiciously attributed. I am really interested to hear about Oxford's contribution to the pamphlet wars. Especially between Nash and Harvey.
@phoebenir7093
@phoebenir7093 Месяц назад
Should have a video about Nashe and Harvey out soon… also I talked about the pamphlet war in an episode of the Blue Boar Tavern a few months ago… thanks for the comment :)
@ContextShakespeare1740
@ContextShakespeare1740 Месяц назад
@@phoebenir7093 I have taken out Pierce Penilesse and Pierce's Supererogation from the library. the small amount I have read so far made me giggle. Lots to unpack. I should have my video on Love's labours lost out soon. The French connection first then the Harvey connection to follow.
@Alacrates
@Alacrates Месяц назад
@@ContextShakespeare1740 Looking forward to the Love's Labour's Lost video! Not sure if the library you use has a copy of Nashe's "Strange News", but I found that was helpful to read alongside Harvey's "Pierce's Supererogation" - a lot of what Harvey is reacting to in that pamphlet is directly to "Strange News" (though actually Pierce's Supererogation is kind of three pamphlets stitched together - the middle one is the earliest, from 1589, and it's responding to "Pappe with a Hatchet" - I found it helpful to find a copy of that too.) I think it'd be great if there was a new critical edition of the pamphlet wars, that included all the Martinist and anti-Martinist pamphlets, the Nashe-Harvey pamphlet wars, and probably also in the same collection all the pamphlets about the astrological predictions for 1588. I think if we were able to read these all, chronologically, in a critical edition, a lot of obscure things would become more clear.
@mayaradoczy4982
@mayaradoczy4982 6 дней назад
I just posted this on my FB page. 2 weeks ago, I posted one of your short clips---and I think it influenced a friend of mine. She was angry before about the idea of deVere being the real author--but last week sent me an article about deVere. All I said was, yes it is amazing how deVere's biography matches the plays, and also his erudition, including fluency in many languages. Thanks for what you are doing!
@phoebe_devere
@phoebe_devere 6 дней назад
Awesome, thank you!
@Nope.Unknown
@Nope.Unknown Месяц назад
This is probably nothing, but I noticed Robert, Thomas, and William are the names of the Cecil's that Oxford grew up with. ROBERT Green, THOMAS Nash, and WILLIAM Shake-speare. Probably a coincidence, but hey I noticed it and thought I'd share.
@phoebenir7093
@phoebenir7093 Месяц назад
Cool
@ronroffel1462
@ronroffel1462 Месяц назад
Wow! What a great interview. I was initially skeptical about Prechter assigning different names to de Vere's works, but the idea of a combined canon makes sense. In an era when copyright and authorial control was limited, the only thing a prolific writer really had was to adopt different pen names to see his works go into print. It would also make sense that the people whose names de Vere used might want to cash in on their own name and publish something of their own. It would be interesting to see how many of de Vere's allonyms went to print not long after their names were used by the earl. I have been looking at the physical structure of title pages and I would like to see whether or not the title pages and first pages of the books and pamphlets Bob cites have the same sort of gematria and number puzzles which are in the front matter of the First Folio and the dedications to Venus and Adonis, Lucrece, and the Sonnets. That would provide more evidence for Oxford's voices if those title pages would contain the same types of puzzles which are in the "Shakespeare" canon. I can't wait for the next installment in your series. Keep up the great work.
@phoebe_devere
@phoebe_devere Месяц назад
thanks!!
@driftlessbooksandmusic4217
@driftlessbooksandmusic4217 Месяц назад
Great Work!
@phoebenir7093
@phoebenir7093 Месяц назад
Thanks man!
@tomditto3972
@tomditto3972 Месяц назад
Romeus and Juliet conceivably could have been written by Thomas Sackville or, at least, he could have written the play referenced by the poet as his inspiration for the poem. Here's the discussion: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4yOXFTo-ugI.html
@patricktilton5377
@patricktilton5377 Месяц назад
The link is to this same RU-vid video, not to some other one. WTF???
@Alacrates
@Alacrates Месяц назад
@@patricktilton5377 I mentioned this to Tom, and the video he was intending to link to was "Sabrina Feldman: Discoveries that Change the Future of the Shakespeare Authorship Question" on the Shakespeare Authorship Roundtable channel
@joecurran2811
@joecurran2811 11 дней назад
​@@AlacratesThat was a great video
@MundaSquire
@MundaSquire 3 дня назад
This hypothesis also explains why Oxford had to disappear behind a pseudonym. As a propagandist for the queen and the nobility, the ordering system of Elizabethan England and before down to William the Conquerer, and to create the impression that England was a new pinnacle like the high points of ancient Greece and Rome, exposure would blow the whole project. Preacher also mentions both Ovid who, DeVere loved (and didn't he translate Metamorphosis in his younger years?), along with DeVere's self comparison to Pallas in the work Lea work Pretcher ciites (a correlation shown soundly by his contemporaries by Alexander Waugh). The growing abundance of various clues as to De Vere being Shakes-peare are too overwhelming to dismiss by any serious scholar, literary or historical.
@relaxationmeditation499
@relaxationmeditation499 Месяц назад
You have that beautiful nerd vibe.
@Nope.Unknown
@Nope.Unknown 23 дня назад
Is there a part 2?
@phoebe_devere
@phoebe_devere 23 дня назад
Coming this week
@Nope.Unknown
@Nope.Unknown 21 день назад
Yay!! Thank you!! This is just wonderful. I also just purchased Oxford's Voices and I am just riveted! Thank you for putting this on RU-vid!
@phoebe_devere
@phoebe_devere 21 день назад
@@Nope.Unknown amazing!!
@Nope.Unknown
@Nope.Unknown 11 дней назад
😢 I can't find it ​@@phoebe_devere
@CharFred-vr1ti
@CharFred-vr1ti Месяц назад
It's a stretch to say that poem when he was 9 years old was definitely Oxfordian.
@mattheweisley8570
@mattheweisley8570 Месяц назад
Phoebe, you're too smart to have such lousy acoustics. Hang curtains, put rugs down, and put away the boxes. Give your subject the quality exposition he deserves.
@Eriugena8
@Eriugena8 Месяц назад
Why is it always the ex-lawyers and economists who want to take down Shakespeare a few pegs? The Shakespeare authorship *question /conspiracy theory is like QAnon for dad empty nesters, otherwise into navy ships or Abraham Lincoln 😅
@irtnyc
@irtnyc Месяц назад
You're strawmanning your own fallacy. Nobody wants to "take down Shakespeare a few pegs." The fakery and intellectual dishonesty of the Stratford Industrial Complex, OK maybe. That would be a makeable argument. Not the conspiracy theory conspiracy theory you're trolling. Personally, I've never met anybody invested in correctly identifying the author(s) of the works attributed to Shakespeare, who wants to reduce or even denigrate the writing or even the historical people involved in any way. Rather, only to be intellectually honest about the decrepitude of the proverbial emperor's chronic & acute garb-less-ness. Which is now both shambolic and orthodox, a sad state of affairs.
@Nope.Unknown
@Nope.Unknown Месяц назад
OR it's a legitimate issue for research and publication, and an appropriate topic for instruction and discussion.
@vetstadiumastroturf5756
@vetstadiumastroturf5756 Месяц назад
I think you have it backwards. It is the Academic Community which has made it's goal to dumb down Shakespeare, because the Works demonstrate a level of education and experience, as well as an access to source material, that is completely incompatible with the known facts about the life of the Man from Stratford. The Academic Community once recognized Shakespeare as being an accomplished master of a variety of fields of knowledge, until it became embarrassingly clear that Mr. Stratford had no connection with any of them; now that same community dismisses all talk of education and experience - which leads one to question authorship - and they have reduced Shakespeare to an idiot "genius" who was just very good at putting words in order pretty much by accident.
@CharFred-vr1ti
@CharFred-vr1ti Месяц назад
Plenty of people used pen names and want to be anonymous. That's not a conspiracy theory in a perjorative sense.
@johnsmith-eh3yc
@johnsmith-eh3yc 29 дней назад
More like anglophobic foreigners who like finding out santa doesnt exist find out that shakespeare wasnt american. Not only that but that he was a specific englishman who is a natiobal hero to many modern english people. Must be shocking and this man must be tràshed, aided my self loathing high pitch voiced leftty engljshmen who hate themselves and their country. Will shakespeare of stratford was an englishman. He also happened to be the greatest writer of all time. Deal with it, no one is following this conspiracy anymore
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