Brilliant, the more I listen to Mr Jones the more I’ve started to respect him, or more to the point understand him, New Zealand First, and what they are wanting to achieve for ALL New Zealanders.
Claiming oppression and victimhood is the easy alternative to taking self-responsibility for one’s failures. Labour shamelessly fed and encouraged the former and was willing to flush the whole country down the toilet in the process. It still remains to be seen whether they succeeded or not.
When are we as a country going to realise that New Zealand First is the only Party whose policies follow their party name. Mr Shane and Sir Winnie by far the best qualified to bring about and lead a united New Zealand. Much respect and support Shane.
Yea Labour had completely sold the country out and I think Luxon would do the same NZ 1st has my vote everytime now and I believe they will go from strength to strength as they should in a sane world
I like what Shane is saying here! I think the worst action you can do for any people who are a minority is to play the victim card!! My future is determined by the actions and decisions I take, no one else! My Father taught me to respect others and demand it back! I live by those values, I think that is what Shane is talking about!!!
@@petereade4936 BRO I think you missed my point and Shane's! It is about Integrity, your own integrity, important with this is taking responsibility rather than blaming everyone else for your problems! Shane is calling this, 'playing the victim card'.
I don't know where to start...My Mum was part Māori, my Dad was part German...So according to the Māori party half of me is OK and the other half is a Genocidal Maniac???. So I am confused, should I characterize myself as a Mud Blood, Blood Traitor or what? Well all my life and I now am 68 years old, I have thought of myself as a KIWI. I really have not got the talent for rhetoric like Mr Jones et al, they are saying things that I am sure all New Zealanders who have a brain, myself included 100% agree with and should have been said a long time ago...Keep up the good work Mr Peters and Mr Jones...
Yes, I've also heard that. It's very distressing that some are taking this ridiculous ideology back to their Marae. The vast majority of Maori don't support this TPM nonsense.
Wow that's heavy can you explain more of what is being promoted? I'm seriously keen to know as I have never been to any event on a Marae and have little idea what they teach there. I think it used to be Tikanga Christianity mainly but turned more Pagan? Are you a Christian?
Keep up the great work mr shane jones tou will be getting my vote next election. We need someone who has a little teump in them to stand up and fight this racist activist BS.
The Maori electoral roll, lower marks to get into med school, breaking charities law without consequences, going to the front of the line in hospital emergency departments, exclusive spaces in universities, jobs in mainstream TV, Maori TV station, what rot, could Maori have more opportunities or be more pampered ?
What a load of bollocks you are spewing, Omg your remarks are what make it divisive. I am proud Maori, I stand and wait in line like everyone else, everything I have I work bludy hard for without the non existent handouts that you are implying (this historical attitude makes me so angry and sad) I've never gotten anything more or less than you do or any other NZer and I don't know of anyone who does so keep your stupid false beliefs to yourself unless you have some actual hard facts to share because I would be very interested to know where this happens and not the lies you've sadly learned from someone just as misinformed as you.Gawd.
Forgot to add, not only exclusive spaces at universities but free. If the pass each year the following year is free. Quite sickening if you think of this as they could become anything they want without having to start work with a massive student loan. Now the question is how many succeed, hardly any, why? because they are not paying - so fail the first year, lose the privilege and drop out.
Debbie should be prosecuted or sued for those comments, is our race relations mediator asleep or does the mediator support the Maori party comments ? - it must be one or the other
As a child growing up with my Maori cousins, Maori school mates I am today saddened by the hate and the overarching desire to open wounds that healed more than a century in the past. These wounds will only get infected and give rise to a need for amputation. I would hate to see that happen as I am very proud of my family, all of them.
So basically all New Zealanders ? Or are you putting Maori as a separate category ? Because that’s the problem. Anyone who is living in NZ are considered kiwis.
How shameful that Debbie Packer & her Party should deem to caterogise the division of our Maori heritage in such a filthy way. I am now nearly 80 yrs of age having grown up in a wonderful ,proud integrated Maori/Pakeha loving family with never a thought or mention of racism. I was so privileged to have the best of both worlds all of us having equal opportunities to prosper in life How dare she ever try to divide our precious memories and feel guilt and shame. My much loved uncle who played for the Maori A/B's was killed in the Middle East WW11,, we are so proud of my family and I implore The Maori Party to have some respect for my generation, and those past, that are Te Paiti Maori going to continually bring unfounded fault and accusations .Are they so angry and hateful and so self important that they think as part Maori we must succumb to this horrible bitterness. I feel so sad and wonder what would my wonderful Maori mother feel about the way NZ has gone. Your loving daughter In support of her Te Raukawa Family
I watched an interveiw in the US between Jacinda Ardern and an internet journalist. He asked Jacinda " are you dividing NZ ,She laughed and said yes." This was while she was prime minister. The media was silent. I am not sure whether it has been taken down like the photo of Jacinda in her communist uniform
Come on national, dont let nz down again. Get rid of all special laws etc only available to part maori people in nz. One person one vote. When maori have over the last 50 uears have negotiated with the crown, the crown obviously have not represented nonmaori nzers. These usually misguided beaurocrats have only represented the crown to the great detriment of all non maori and the future of NZ
Get rid of the Maori seats, y should they have guaranteed seats ,(te pati maori joke )only got 3 % of the vote y r they in parliament, u need 5 % to form a party .they only serve them selves ,keep up the good work shane thank u
TPM leadership treat governance as an extractive industry. Representation is to prepare the ground to extract maximum resources with minimal regard to the health of the body politic.
..Well, the original justification for the Maori Seats disappeared in 1879. Successive Governments have had the opportunity to abolish the Maori seats, now they are in the hands of the wreckers and the haters . Let's see what happens when TPM holds the balance of power in '26..
@Keepitsimple183 I've been a member since the MP began planning to organize themselves 2003. It's the only Party that values what is important to me. It is the only choice l have to deliver outcomes that align with my needs and expectations. No other political party can do that for me. I support the values of the Green Party in terms of the longevity of our planet, and until the MP arrived, l voted Labour
@@rlckirionarc MMP. The Greens and Labor are a lost causes at this stage. There's idealism, and then there's reality. Knowing the difference is helpful. With the Green MP's, we've had a Green MP bully in Parliament standing over a member of another party and screaming in his face. Then there was another MP who was the 'justice' spokesperson who has been 'convicted' of shop lifting. Now there's another who is embroiled in 'allegations' of 'migrant worker exploitation'. Prior to this, James Shaw, the ex co-leader of the Green party had lied on his Linked-in profile about his qualifications(you don't forget that), and the earlier leader of the Green party, Tariana Turei, had resigned due to having signed a document fraudulently. Are those 'values' important to you? Do they align with your 'needs' and 'expectations'? Between Labor and the Greens, despite 48.4% of NZ voting to 'legalize' cannabis, they couldn't even 'decriminalize' it. I used to vote Labor or Green, for many years. 'Never again'.
@@rlckirionarc MMP. The Greens and Labor are a lost causes at this stage. There's idealism, and then there's reality. Knowing the difference is helpful. With the Green MP's, we've had a Green MP bully in Parliament standing over a member of another party and screaming in his face. Then there was another MP who was the 'justice' spokesperson who has been 'convicted' of shop lifting. Now there's another who is embroiled in 'allegations' of 'migrant worker exploitation'. Prior to this, James Shaw, the ex co-leader of the Green party had lied on his Linked-in profile about his qualifications(you don't forget that), and the earlier leader of the Green party, Tariana Turei, had resigned due to having signed a document fraudulently. Are those 'values' important to you? Do they align with your 'needs' and 'expectations'? Between Labor and the Greens, despite 48.4% of NZ voting to 'legalize' cannabis, they couldn't even 'decriminalize' it. I used to vote Labor or Green, for many years. 'Never again'.
When are we going to hear the end of poor me and Im poor because of someone else. give it a rest, we all have red blood, two eyes, two hands and a brain to think with. Lease race out of it and accept that maori are not special, they are not indigenous and the only genocide was maori killing the peoples in NZ that were here before them. Stop twisting history, it's the Emperors Clothes.
Just a few of the many thoughts which are coming to me over recent times on this issue.... 1) How many people in NZ are Maori? (and are ANY of them pure 100% Maori?) 2) How many people IDENTIFY as Maori? 3) How many people are on the Maori electoral roll? 4) What should be the definitive way to fix someone's cultural identity? ie "What IS a Maori?" 5) Do all Maori / those who identify as Maori speak with one voice? 6) Who is REALLY leading/driving this new wave of Maorification? 7) How many Maori (or non-Maori) want them to be identified as a separate nationality? 8) And thus, should they have separate governance and all other social, political and economic infrastructure? 9) How would that work and interact with the rest of non-Maori NZ? 10) Should all Maori resettle and live in ONE specific region of 'NZ' (and have a separate nationality, globally recognised)? 11) Should there be a referendum (on the above)? 12) Should we officially make the only language of NZ English, or become 'officially' (by referendum) a 2-language nation, like in Canada? ......etc etc etc.....
Some very good questions, which would not be asked in any NZ main stream media, which, has played a significant role in the adoption of false dichotomies. Often times, when Maori are the alleged 'victims', then we know their ethnicity. But when they are the perpetrators, for some odd reason, that element is missing. I refer to 'reports' in the media. If someone identifies as Maori(fair enough) but genetically speaking they are 65% non Maori, how does that factor distort the data as it were? You know, sociological phenomena. Furthermore, if you do identify as Maori, this confers upon you rights and privileges above and beyond the general population. Hardly equality, under the law or otherwise.
@magingi Thanks to woke ideology anyone can identify as anyone. So goodbye to data and True facts. They all choose fantasies. So as long as they realize they've made a mockery out of civilization and all our ancestors have been through,on all sides!! Irish, Maori,Scottish,Chinese, English, all have suffered and all have gained. It will not end well for those who follow this ideolgy path and why take the country to ransom and those who choose not to rebel against Gods ways. The writing is on the wall. Be content with what We have not complaining except against evil.
@@tamaashford7196 no, it's a shame to be a racist, whining for more money and mollycoddling. But aggressive and violent "warriors" when it suits them. At least Shane doesn't embrace a victimhood hierarchy. He wants Maori to be competent and proud not victims.
The human rights commission only deals with all things that don't include anything to do with Maori anything that is said about Maori they completely disregard.
I don’t think it is from Jacinda “enabling” them at all Shane, so much as them standing up to the nonsense from the current govt. I don’t doubt that TUF and co would take major offence to the current govt
When Some Maori Acknowledged and signed the Treaty, about 2000 Europeans occupied Aotearoa and roughly 200 000 Maori lived here.The Minority white settlers sought protection for their ways of life from the Maori majority Through laws and Governance.less than 200 years later the boot is on the other Foot ,The Many are now the few and find themselves in the same Situation,Using the Laws and Government Legislation to protect their way and Identity.The Irony is thick but the understanding is ignored.For Maori who have despised the Colonial and Cultural Ignorance of the European Political System Are now Purveyors of very system they say has imprisoned them.If you cant beat them join them aye Cuzzy.The fact is we exist in a multi Cultural World, but thats does not mean we cant live as Maori .There is one Race and it is not "First Past the Post" it is Humanity!!!
Ww1 soldiers were given a money grant to purchase land in a desegnatid area. WW2 vets were helped into work..why would Maori WW2 vets be treated any diferently.
They volunteered to fight for whites. Dont feel sorry for em if they got shafted. My Gramps had a Vietnam vet for a neighbour in the old people flats. He clearly had nothing to show for it too.
@@annhollebon 500.000 acres of Maori land for soldier settlement was given to be for all soldiers by the time Westmoreland arrived in Auckland a year later another 600.000 was given. Almost all this land was settled by pakehas. Educate yourself
Maori party won’t come on here because you won’t listen anyway. Goes in one ear and out the other. If Maori party are acting out of hand then why’s Hawaii, Tahiti and New Caledonia going thru the same thing doing the exact same thing. Even native indigenous Indians in America are seeing what’s happening in Aotearoa. Disgraceful government hopefully get booted out.
Shane doesn’t speak for Māori, he’s saying what non Māori want to hear. My parents who have moved on to Heaven, didn’t hate Pakeha, neither do I or my children and grandchildren but we all have a common belief and history supports us, that this land belongs to us and it was stolen from us and it is coming back to us just like India’s rule returned to the indigenous of that land. To conclude, karma has a way of righting the wrongs and we aren’t going anywhere (except Australia haha 😅) and when the Worst Recession, worse than 1929 hits, and all of you non Māori go broke, we will still be here, because we’ve been in recession for over 180 years and the honeymoon is over for you.😅
The Revitalisation of Te Reo Maori since the 1980’s has spurred the Kohanga Reo, Kura Kaupapa generation. These are the future of not only the Maori Party but of New Zealand.. 1 in 3 New Zealanders under the age of 25 identify as Maori. They as well as Pacifica are reproducing more than any other ethnicity in the Country.. Moumou to toto Maori Shame, Moumou to toto Maori.
@@korocam9137 You get your stats out of a Weet-bix box deary? "1 in 3", well I see you did include the word "identify", so that gives you a pretty good imaginary margin to play with aye girl?
It's not about toto tho it's about the future direction of this country the disparity between working & unemployed is way to big it's beyond embarrassing the gap between the ruling class & underclass has gotten worse this country has been getting sold from under our feet for to long now if we want to protect it & all it's goodness we need to listen to each other more it is happening at the expense of our mokopuna to many Maori now are in the prisons. I am a Mana Motuhake supporter ex Kohanga now taking up a PHD but I'm not a fan of some of the rhetoric TPM are selling it actually gets our ppl off side more so activism has its time & place but let's face it most of those taiohi are unemployed they are really pawns also & lack education & experience to do better for themselves. Alot of the hippie liberal supporters have spent more time isolated from their papa kainga there's to much politicizing of victimimhood rhetoric we need more pragmatism and experience from our Maori leaders they are utilizing their visual and social platforms for the party vote they need to slow down here & be more reflective real change starts with our selves and as we know the Maori vote 🗳 is divided more so now as TPM is tailored to the style of leadership which is more attractive to iwi hapu leaders and our kohanga Maori speaking generations.
Yeah but it’s a nonsense way of cataloging people because anyone can be Māori provided they have a tiny percentage of Maori heritage Reality is if we did it properly and we identified people by their predominant heritage according to dna then it’d be a whole different story
@annebayne-wr2qy If you look at history nearly every nation has been colonised, taken over or rambunctiously theived off somebody. Life is full of parodies. Personal or National ones. And yes there are injustices, and awful bloodshed but what's important now is what we do to survive and live life the best way we can..taking nothing for granted and thanking God for our privileges and blessings with what time we've got left. To stop complaining and realise how better off we are than our ancestors. On all sides. Even the English suffered terribly and were beholden to oppressive controlling regimes. Fought many wars and was taken captive by Nordica,Norman's and so many other conquests. Ireland and Scotland,India, Africa, Madagascar, Europe, The Americas, Spanish invasion,Alexander the Great, Ceasar, Israel...on and on...Who is without invasion?? We are what we are today..Without stupidity of Open Borders!!
Luxton said he was not going to tinker with the Treaty. Then today tinker bell is excluding Maori from Pharmac? Thats not just tinker thats sneakily trying to set a precedance. If the remove Maori from one dept it is a slippery slope for Maoru and Pakeha alike. He said it is very minor. Only a footnote. Really? Maori have heard it all before. This is why Maori will protest on mass. Thats why they were all told at Waitangi dont touch the treaty. Shayne, winston , luxton all gave assurances to Maori. The tail is wagging the old dogs.
I think you've missed the point. They haven't "excluded Maori from Pharmac", they're focusing funding on drugs that will benefit everyone in NZ equally. Why should one race be prioritised? The treaty was designed with ALL New Zealanders in mind, not just to benefit one race. We all call New Zealand home and should all have equal rights & privileges. One rule for everyone, one NZ.
@@imaginelf22that garbage & is a sign of someone historically illiterate. The Treaty only made guarantees to Maori that the British crown will bring its citizens living in NZ to heel because of their lawless behavior. That sentiment changed when their numbers grew & illegally enacted the 1852 constitution Act creating a parliament for Pakeha only, than wide Maoriland confiscation took place decimating significantly already dwindling maori populations.
Amazing to find Shane on a right platform< i bet they were hanging onto your every word> Māori never ceded sovereignty > My support TPM it is about time we had a indigenous political party that has a Māori perspective>
