Well done Pritam Singh, a well deserving Eyes to Eyes contact with his opponent while he bite his words in complete clarity during his rebuttal. This is the quality of true leadership that Singaporeans need, IMO.
Waste of time.Marriage of same sex is out.We should talk more of how to help Singaporeans in difficult times ie defeating inflation & rising cost of living.
Why should they surrender their birthright to be equal human beings and citizens? You are clearly demonstrating oppressive dictatorial tendencies to exclude others to increase your own toxic undeserved space.
The double edge sword of the internet and such videos is that it clearly exposes the bullies and the righteous. Pritham is a brilliant, world class individual and his fellow members and opposition all demonstrated high civic, moral and intellectual integrity. Such mundane exchanges where one side resorts to personal barbs and fantasizes about train crashes ad nauseam. Enough already.
Why wasted time and money on this 377A debate...better solves our daily life issues of high cost inflations. Debate on recently reported Temasek million $$$ losses .
Why is Shanmugam putting his personal opinion in Parliament? Who cares what he thinks? We wanna know what PAP or the govt stand is. And when it comes to WP or the opposition, he doesn’t want to know their personal opinion but the opposition or party stand. What kind of logic is this?
I think he is absolutely irrelevant to the 377A Bill. Why must he Politicize the Subject onto the "Workers' Party as to whether the Party made a stand yesterday or not? I ceased to understand the PAP nowadays . While Pritam Points were full of substance and reasonings to convince in substantiation. I am amazed, his brain is like an encyclopedia. Hence, I see It as a blessing for Singapore to have Pritam in Parliament. Pritam Singh, World Class PM Quality.
As I understand Singapore's ruling party proposed the decriminalisation of homosexuality. This was passed by Parliament. However, they preserved the narrow meaning of 'marriage' to mean between between men and women. I see this as a socially progressive move, in the Asian contest. I don't understand many of the comments here from, I assume, Singaporeans. They seem to knock the Govt, praise the opposition (Mr Singh) but without seeming to understand the issues. LGBT equality directly affects very few people, and a wide public debate may soon stir up prejudices that generate more heat than light. I think the S'pore government has handled the issue well.
@@lovelandkrisstopher4404 Major problem? You mean Singaporeans will find out that homosexual sex has been decriminalised, get curious, try it, like it and turn gay? Or that a lot of Singaporeans are disappointed because anything legal is less fun?
@@martycrow like you said in your earlier comment they are a minority, for this reason they will start recruiting more people into their caucus beginning from kids, then to schools then to speech. It’s a cultural war been fought, and if anyone wants to see the future of this , mirror the cultural war going on in America. The LGBTQ society are the most powerful society on Mother Earth now. There is nothing wrong with living with them but the strategy of advocacy is where people fault. Forcing everyone to accept what they think is right and any other thing is wrong. Singapore politics will now shift to identity politics and that’s the biggest danger. Nice way to dilute democracy
someone trying to twist witch hunt and nail something not said or intend by the Opposition Leader, pansy trying, but hopefully that if this is Watch by the Greater populace of SG, they shall have the verdict in finale what is the substance of the debate.
That's a public policy issue because definition of marriage dictates housing policy, family welfare etc. Should govt also hold referendum for all that too? That won't be fair. If you don't like it, then feel free to change the regime.
Any links or clarification some netizens don't really knows what is 377A.. does it matter to most citizens? Does it really affected our citizen livelihood ? Why bring up sensitive topic , what's the percentage/numbers of LBTQ in SG currently to have this topic relevant to all Singaporeans?
Not really sure about that… gay have been around all along and the law is around for quite a long time. Not too sure why the sudden inspiration to make a change. By the way, any news about Lee Hsien Yang son?
@@Gaytayy this is madness, in future we see men and men, women and women at ROM to register their marriage, then if they adopt kids, we see 2 fathers or 2 mothers with their kids outside public
Next will have less population in singapore if man and man or women and women marriage. Reasons of marriage is to have kids. That what our government wants. To have next generation in singapore.
I agree with Mr. Shanmugam's said, respectfully, Your point of view is to make the house of Singapore a conservative country to follow our country's system. so sorry that a man marrying a man can’t make Singaporean will become messy.
But the SG Parliament just voted to decriminalise homosexuality, but reserved marriage for heterosexuals. Is that not "messy"? Do you understand what's going on?
@@martycrow Dear , Mr Shanmugant have his discernment between good point and bad point , as a Singaporean I don’t agreed that man and man married because I am concerned about the ADS and monkeypox disease spread around ,might be very messy ruin many expects , I am not discrimination gays , I have gays friends too, they have disease infection🦠 seek your understanding, I care about that issues and our society . Don’t miss understanding Thank you
@@mayleecheemee7335 Haha! So many contradictions in what you say. You don't have to be married to have sex of any kind. Married men can be affected by STDs even when they are married. Good sexual and reproductive health is achieved through information, education, public health medical capacity and citizens who try to maintain best practice. I hope that helps! I am not Singaporean but have visited many times and know a bit about the country/history etc.
@@martycrow whatever, I don’t agreed what you said , I prefer live in health life don’t messy up our Singapore culture and don’t manipulate others Singapore is small city need more productively produce more smart baby to contribute for our smart city.
Comparing 377A debate to abortion and human organ transplant issues doesn’t seem appropriate. The latter 2 are a matter of life and death… whether non straight people can get married doesn’t carry as much severity.. furthermore government already lifted 377A. Although marriage definition was strengthened. Ultimately laws are for the majority and not the minority.
that is if the laws that affect the minority also affect the majority, changing the deffintion of marriage will not ban traditional marriage it would just allow gay marriage, so i dont see the issue
I'm not Singaporean. I recall that Mr Singh was suspended by the Parliamentary Standards Committee (I think) over covering up lies told by one of his Party's MPs. What eventually happened? Is he and his party still trusted?
I honestly think Mr PS isn’t covering up anything he ask RSQ to speak the truth…if u buy a loft of bread and found on sliced is spoil doesnt mean all breads and spoiled
@@saifulredzuan5236 Your Parliament didn't see it that way and censured him. The MP admitted to lying (to Parliament, then to Mr Singh). He left it to her, saying something about taking secrets to the grave. Your comparison with a loaf of bread is not applicable.
Next this LGTBQ demands for house purchase with marriage cert MAN & MAN…then they will see the impact on housing policies ..MAN & MAN both are working adult leaving the Male and Female couple face problem in buying house
Westminster system is about attacking the opponent when there is an opportunity? Mr Shanmugam, your beloved British Empire is now a little UK, very soon it might become little Britain. Mr Shanmugam, your PAP's style of Westminster system is in need of a reform. We don't need group think. Ha ha ha!
Opposition Supporters: Parliament should be transparent PAP: Demands transparency in the opposition's stance on repeal 377A Opposition Supporters: _Suprised Pikachu face_
@@scorpfire127 A political party or government has to be a respectable impartial authority. Then all sectors of the society will be willing to be governed by them. Mr Shanmugam was trying to suggest that all political parties, including the PAP, must take side, they must be either the "Republicans" or "Democrats". Anyway, PAP scholars are only good at taking exams in the schools. Ha ha ha!
@@greatasia606 Political parties should state their stance on difficult issues clearly. Not for parliament, but to be accountable and transparent to *Singaporeans*. When it comes to drawing down on the reservers, your dear opposition parties are so loud and clear in their stance that the reserves should be drawn down. But Come to difficult issues, hide behind vague statements.
@@scorpfire127 A political party or government has to be a respectable impartial authority. Then all sectors of the society will be willing to be governed by them. Mr Shanmugam was trying to suggest that all political parties, including the PAP, must take side, they must be either the "Republicans" or "Democrats". You can understand?
Keep targeting WP about their stance is like Heng Swee Keat and his 100 Billion budget. Don't think voters are so fickle or behave the way you think they do. Please go and consult LKY's book and how he handle and taught a conservative Singapore.
377A??????????? CPF????????????N HDB BTO 99 YEAR LEASE TIMEBOMB?????????? ADVICE TO OUR YOUNG..... GET A FREEHOLD HOME.... GOD BLESS....OUR YOUNG ONES AND OF COURSE ALL SINGAPORE CITIZENS🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Land Mark Bill passed in the US. Senate passes protection on same-sex - marriage . The bill "repeals & replaces" Any federal language as between individuals of the opposite sex. Simply put Rights for all irrespective of their sexual orientation. Grow up PAP & Shanmugam !
You grow up. Singapore and most Singaporeans DO NOT see same sex marriage as the right thing for our society. The US is a failed and decadent country. Why should Singapore be as US??
@@jeremywong3056 Pls explain right thing. Only a matter of time before Singapore accepts same sex marriage. Singaporean's can go elsewhere have a same sex marriage . Come back & reside . Nothing this shallow headed government can do. You , PAP & Shanmugam are against the wall on same sex marriage.
@@justingomez4715 Sure, but officially they are not recognized as a married couple in Singapore and it’s something WE THE MAJORITY SINGAPOREANS have a say about it. Don’t agree or don’t like it? Then emigrate elsewhere. It’s not the government but the majority of our people who determines this. Stop accusing the government of being stupid.
@@jeremywong3056 The issue is not about majority & never will be about majority. The issue is about acceptance of invidiual rights, liberty & natural need innate by nature.
@@justingomez4715 That’s your vomiting the Western over used tag line. What natural need / gay sex and marriage is natural? Where is the limit?? Next it will incest and bestiality should be allowed for honoring individual rights? This is an Asian society and Singapore was and will ever will be founded on society take precedence over the individual. All the Singapore policies are based on this. Period. Enough of your polemics.
Ruling Party, PAP! Plse be aware tat fr d top to d least-r cursing u for not helping d low income grp, for holding back CPF, ignoring those struggling pay hdb mortgage etc etc NO GD !!! U r only HEAPIG CURSES ! plse rement.
If everyone fear God, there is no need for this debate. Marriage is between a man and woman. God loves all his creations but when it violates His commandments it deserves His fury and wrath.
If you look at WP, you find them standing everywhere because the party cannot decide which way the wind is blowing. A government cannot always do popular things. There will be times when they have to do the necessary but unpopular. Richard Weng wrote: I share one of my old post again on The Worker Party not willing to make a stand on 377A. Even up till today, Pritam Singh is officially making a stand that there is no common stand within the WP team. Again, even for a topic like 377A the WP is not able to make a political stand on, what else can they make a stand on if they are hard decisions to be made for the country? Making a stand politically doesn't mean that every single member has to agree with the narrative but it does show your ability to band the party together despite having people in the camp who have a different view point. Imagine in a war, some may agree to fight, and some not agree, however, as a leader, you would regardless need to band the party together and still convince people to move forward together to fight the war and not give the option to those who do not want to fight to leave. This is not what a responsible and capable leader should do. Once again, just as what I had expected and said in my previous post, WP is always a party who blows with the wind and they are just not a party who wants to make a stand as any stand would risk offending a particular party. They would rather keep it safe and stay in the middle. Once again, it proves my point that the current WP leadership is just not good enough for Singapore. Where is the political courage again from WP?
PAP want to repeal because they losing votes over this. Its about agenda than making a stand lol. WP is not so affected by this 377A. In my view vote like western democracy is more appropriate for this type of law, each mp should have their own say regardless of party. If go to national referendum, the result will not repeal in my view.
@@markfish1113 .. PAP is losing vote over this?... They are making a hard choice that will make them lose votes! Why? They will offend PAP supporter that is LGBTQ supporters! But will PAP gain the repeal supporters? Hardly will, why? most Opposition supporters are hardcore, look at the comments section and you will know... the present PAP behave like LKY always making the hard choice for the good of the country even though they will lose votes... that is why, in the next election, PAP may not be our Government (consider the increase of GST)...
@@MrLEECHINSOON Open your eyes and see the pink dot movement, so many people turned up. Every gay and lesbian vote opposition due to 377A deemed their relationship illegal, it even affect their family/friends to vote opposition. PAP is trying their best to retain votes. Hardcore opposition is 20%, the fence votes able to be persuaded are like LGBT people. PAP is conservative right wing party, they will not make radical left wing policy change unless losing support. WP take neutral stance as they are leftwing party, gay voters support due to against PAP.
LGBT is a habit that develops over time. These people require our love and encouragement for rehabilitation alike drug abusers. But the government is indirectly showing their support by acknowledging and accepting their presence. They have strong negative impacts on our society as a whole be it significant or not. Stop..listen..think. There is always time to show compassion appropriately. On the other hand, there are times we MUST draw the line. So what's next ? Recognizing marriage between mother and son ? Or understanding a father's desires to marry his own daughter ?
