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Shaper Work . Part 2 . 

Max Grant ,The Swan Valley Machine Shop.
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Machining a part in the Shaper Machine .

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20 авг 2024

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@eyuptony
@eyuptony 8 месяцев назад
Enjoyed watching your shaper Max. Thanks for explaining how it works.....Tony
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers Tony . 👍
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop 8 месяцев назад
Great job mate
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers Matty . 👍
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 8 месяцев назад
I'm sure you will fix the little problems on this machine. After that, you will have a gem :)
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
I think it will be . Hey , have a great Chrissy there Rusty . 👍
@ericpatterson3887
@ericpatterson3887 8 месяцев назад
@MaxGrant Max, I was watching Abom (Adom Booth) on his channel when he got his shaper, and he was having the same taper problem. He was able to rectify the condition by taking out the backlash in the down feed axis prior to locking it down. He found that when he used the auto downfeed the backlash was causing the tool to dig in more than what the auto feed was doing. So when setting his tool height on the down feed axis he would go down beyond where he wanted it to be, then back it back up to where he wanted it thus eliminating the down feed backlash, then setting the locking screw tight, eliminated the unwanted random down feed when using the auto down feed. Hope this helps. Love your vids, I learn a lot from you. Cheers mate! Well now I feel stupid. I wrote this out prior to watching the whole vid, OI! Anyways love your work Max, hope you have a good holiday season! Greetings from Phoenix, Arizona!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
No worries , Cheers 👍
@paulcurtis2779
@paulcurtis2779 8 месяцев назад
Very nicely done. . Looks fantastic. The "tractor" museum will be very happy. Thanks Max.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers 👍
@mjm7187
@mjm7187 8 месяцев назад
Wish I lived closer to you, I've got a pair of shaper made hold downs approx 14 inches long given to me when I was an apprentice that I could pass along to you. Just the ticket for this project Max. I'll check Fedex out of curiosity, I'm retired now and they're just sitting in my tool box. Really enjoy your channel and stories. mjm
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers . Postage rates are through the roof nowdays . Back when we were close to dollar for dollar with USA several years back , i picked up that old Kurt vice & had it sent over . Postage was no problem 10 years ago . 👍
@user-my5gw8cy3e
@user-my5gw8cy3e 8 месяцев назад
Always pleasant watching you. Very well done!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍
@be007
@be007 8 месяцев назад
nice job and lots of good info max ! thanks for sharing. cheers ben.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
No worries , Cheers 👍
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for doing the project on the shaper. I quit using my Rode mic because it seems to want to fight the GoPro's external mic and creates some weird background noise. I am using an older GoPro so it does not have any settings that let you adjust that issue.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
You would think this day & age , they would make reliable electronic stuff . A bit like computers at work , when they run well the IT dept stuff around with them just to justify their own existence ! 👍
@JBFromOZ
@JBFromOZ 8 месяцев назад
so cool to see the Zocca 500 being used in anger :-) seems to be working nicely too!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Lol , it's first real job ! 👍
@jamesreed6121
@jamesreed6121 8 месяцев назад
You can never fail to attract viewers with a shaper video. I have a small South Bend 7".. as I was watching the video i noticed that the clapper raised the cutting tool just before it got to the work piece. If have time in a future shaper video, could you spend time showing how the lifting mechanism works?. KOKO!
@jamesreed6121
@jamesreed6121 8 месяцев назад
I have to learn to watch the whole video before commenting.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Lol . 👍👍👍
@joell439
@joell439 8 месяцев назад
Awesome results Max. It’s like you know what you’re doing 😮😂. Such a pleasure watching your work. I learn so much. 2023 was super…. 2024 is going to be even better. Take care of yourself. Merry Christmas 🎄. Cheers mate 👍👍😎👍👍
@jefftheaussie2225
@jefftheaussie2225 8 месяцев назад
Amazing that that piece of over engineering was to allow the seat to be adjusted for and aft. Good chance it was going to get blown to smitherines on its first outing. There is enough steel there to build a car (especially a Chinese one) these days. It turned out beautifully. Jeff.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers . Might have been some of the only comforts the Lads got was an adjustable seat ! 👍
@grahamsengineering.2532
@grahamsengineering.2532 8 месяцев назад
Gidday Max, greetings from steamy Brisvegas. All the best for Christmas and the New Year.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers Graham . At least we do not have the Queensland humidity ! Have a good one . 🍺🍺🍺
@russelldold4827
@russelldold4827 8 месяцев назад
I still remember watching some slow-motion close-ups of shaper machining we saw as apprentices 50 years ago. The plastic deformation around the cutting edge was clearly visible - great learning aid!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks . 👍
@jonsworkshop
@jonsworkshop 8 месяцев назад
Cracking job Max, and some great footage to boot!!!👍 Merry Christmas to you and your family mate, and best wishes for 24 from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers Jon . Have a good one as well . 🍺🍺🍺
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 8 месяцев назад
Great video max, keep'um coming
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍
@GraemeStephens
@GraemeStephens 8 месяцев назад
Wow so much, thanks for explaining how the Clapper system works, and yes at one stage of the video I felt 'sea sick' ! ..... and an up coming video of Bloopers please ? now that You have exposed that they do happen - even to the Best. When You were Handfeeding , may I suggest music from the movie ' Dirty Dancing ' -
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Hey , they don't play that song on 100.1 ! 🍺🍺🍺
@geoffmathieson2643
@geoffmathieson2643 8 месяцев назад
That was a dead punt on that rough cut. I love the way you can run the shaper on auto and go and do "something else". And that "something else" consists of sitting a chair watching it. Great stuff and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers 👍
@jefftheaussie2225
@jefftheaussie2225 8 месяцев назад
Same as using GPS to drive a tractor, you still have to be there to turn it all around at the ends.
@stovepipe666
@stovepipe666 8 месяцев назад
Good job as always max you should put your stamp on it
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers 🍺🍺🍺
@davidrichards5594
@davidrichards5594 8 месяцев назад
Max, Great job. I found on my shaper, that if I keep the stroke overhang to a minimum at the rear, the ram won't be quite up to speed when the tool hits the cut. It makes life a little easier for carbide....Dave
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks Dave , a great bit of info . I will keep in mind . 👍
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop 8 месяцев назад
Makes sense, good info David !
@TrPrecisionMachining
@TrPrecisionMachining 8 месяцев назад
very goos job friend Max Merry Christmas
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks . Have a good one as well . 🍺🍺🍺
@guye7763
@guye7763 7 месяцев назад
It surprises me that the shaper works so well , given that it always creates an interrupted cut. The forces on contact must be huge!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 7 месяцев назад
Yes , there some forces at work inside ! 👍
@nelsoncollar1814
@nelsoncollar1814 4 месяца назад
Yes but the sheir and sharpness the metal can not resist. You will not find a finer cut. It is just s l o w .
@clydedecker765
@clydedecker765 8 месяцев назад
Always remember the backlash - especially when getting home late!!! (machinists motto!)
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Lol , been there done that ! 👍
@Paul-FrancisB
@Paul-FrancisB 8 месяцев назад
Thanks Max, enjoying the shaper content and you getting it dialled in, hopefully i can pick up some tips for my little Elliott machine 🤞
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
No worries 👍
@DonDyarprecision
@DonDyarprecision 8 месяцев назад
Max, new sub from my new "Its really Me channel" It has been said that anything can be made on a shaper except money. A handy and interesting machine tool anyway, great video!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Hey , Cheers Don . Sub'd as well ! Looks like i have a few of your video's to catch up on now . Bloody hot here , first day in ages the wind has settled down . Have a great Christmas . 👍👍👍
@rickhand8228
@rickhand8228 3 месяца назад
I have tried brazed tooling in my small shaper that I have in my home hobby shop and have been pleased but I am mostly a HSS guy for all my machines.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 3 месяца назад
Thanks . HSS is a good allrounder . 👍
@lonniebrock3282
@lonniebrock3282 8 месяцев назад
Good deal Max you all have a Merry Christmas
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks , have a good one as well . 👍
@alandawson2813
@alandawson2813 8 месяцев назад
Another awesome video young max. Keep up the great work. Love to be fly on the wall watching you work. Even better working beside you just soaking up the wealth of knowledge you have. Have a awesome Christmas and safe New Years. From kiwi land
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks , have a good one as well . 👍
@mcgama88
@mcgama88 8 месяцев назад
The slow motion capture are fun to watch as action, shaper in motion. The review of tool shape, tool type was on target for my needs as to add to tool job type in my shop *ahead as real projects in near future.. Thank you Max. I hope the holiday finds cheer and family as gathered about. M.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍
@TedRoza
@TedRoza 8 месяцев назад
G'day Max. The shaper might have a few problems, but the operator seems to be right on the Ball. 😅 There appears to be lots of chips coming off with ease whether a light or slightly heavier cut I was waiting for the part to shoot forward when held by 5mm. 😂😂 The slide turned out really well, & with it working with the adjuster on it . It's amazing how much different tooling you need to accomplish different projects. Max you have done really well, Overall a Great Tutorial Video
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks Ted . 👍
@KeefyKat
@KeefyKat 8 месяцев назад
Nice to see a shaper being used for more complex operations. Cheers from Tallahassee!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks . Yes , you only normally see them doing test cuts or basic flat surfaces . 👍
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing Max!😅
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
No worries 👍
@624Dudley
@624Dudley 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for all the extra details, Max. Shapers are interesting! 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
No worries 👍
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 8 месяцев назад
G'day Max, happy days mate, loving the shaper work on the "Tractor" parts I didn't even try the tongue twister because I say Cunt all the time 😂 Happy holidays mate, and lots of love to you and yours
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Lol , i have to keep holding back from saying it on yt ! Cheers 👍👍👍
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop 8 месяцев назад
Good one Max, Perfect job for the shaper.. No auto down feed on my little shaper, but I have found keeping the gib very snug on the down feed makes a huge difference. Merry Christmas to you and family... I'm guessing Santa changes to Bermuda shorts for the Aussie fly-over 😎😎
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 8 месяцев назад
It's way down on my project list, but a CNC conversion for my benchtop Atlas shaper will hopefully be completed before I die 😀
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers Dean . Santa would get blown away by the strong Easterly winds at the moment ! 👍
@1ginner1
@1ginner1 8 месяцев назад
Hi Max, That is a great machine, I don't think I have seen a shaper with so many functions.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍
@dsmith7455
@dsmith7455 8 месяцев назад
Merry Christmas to you and yours. Loved the big curly shaper chip beauty shots! Please keep sharing your knowledge with us. Dave
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
No worries . Thanks & have a good one 👍
@skyfreakwi
@skyfreakwi 8 месяцев назад
Image stabilization is ironically causing your phones wiggle probably. It's just trying to sync with the moving ram as if it was the stable thing and the world is in motion. Which it is of course but not from our perspective...
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks . I will look at the settings . 👍
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright 8 месяцев назад
Beautiful camera work, Max. Listening to that shaper- is it running a 2-stroke or 4-stroke petrol engine?
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Lol , Clunking 4 stroke all the way , not the sweet hum of a Detroit ! 👍
@incubatork
@incubatork 4 месяца назад
When you were on about the machine being in Spanish or Brazilian in the first video the GPM on the dial could be either Giro's (turns) or Golpes(hits) per minute, I am English but lived here in Spain for over 30 years and nothing else coms to mind re GPM. If you need anything translated to Spanish let me know, Google translate does not too bad but where it lack very much in context and sometimes the translation is stupid and nothing to do with things. This time the flip up was early, I'm wondering if it has to do with the stroke, no doubt I'll find out at the end how it works, very interesting stuff.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 4 месяца назад
Google converted it to strokes per minute 👍
@ostosix
@ostosix 7 месяцев назад
One of the best shaper videos i've seen Max cheers, a nice part done. Im only DIYer so times not an issue for me. But what was you total time on that part? If your happy to share ofcourse. Those more modern shapers are interesting.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 7 месяцев назад
I did not keep any track of time as when filming it multiplies the time quite a lot . I quoted the job to be done in the milling machine & that would have taken a fraction of the time the shaper took , but i thought it would make good shaper content ! Cheers 👍
@simpleman283
@simpleman283 8 месяцев назад
👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍👍👍
@trevorjones4463
@trevorjones4463 8 месяцев назад
Hi mate that makes my little shaper look a bit primitive ha-ha 😂
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers 👍
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 8 месяцев назад
Uncle Trevor 🎉
@cyclebuster
@cyclebuster 8 месяцев назад
my stroke adjuster slips under a big cut sometimes. i dont see a cure on my design. Tighter, Captain!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Not sure how my one locks yet , some investigation required ! Cheers 👍
@opieshomeshop
@opieshomeshop 8 месяцев назад
When you _have to cut deeper than_ the vise jaws, what are your *thoughts on mounting the* work between sacrificial pieces of aluminum and then keep going with the cut? _You save the vise and don't_ have to re-set up the part. I seen another youtube *do that but he wasn't* using a shaper either.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Sounds like a good alternative if you have the right size scrap ally laying around . Cheers 👍
@acmemachining
@acmemachining 8 месяцев назад
Great video Max. How you have a Merry Christmas
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks Tod . Have a good one as well . 👍
@robertginther9248
@robertginther9248 7 месяцев назад
Carbide inserts aren't sharp edged. Learned from a machinist to diamond grind to a razor edge & they work better than high speed, even in deep cuts. He's taught me a great deal over the years & I'm 79 now.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 7 месяцев назад
Most indexable's are not but the polished ones are nowdays . I can diamond grind them now . Cheers 👍
@KarlSnyder1967
@KarlSnyder1967 5 месяцев назад
I don't know if this has been brought up below but on the edge "plunge" cuts could you have used a sacrificial material in between the project and the jaws.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 5 месяцев назад
I have done that before on a milling machine but not a shaper . Cheers 👍
@willemvantsant5105
@willemvantsant5105 8 месяцев назад
Hi Max, wonder if a spring loaded tool holder will prevent the tool being pulled into the work caused by the backlash. Rustinox uses one on his shaper. As you are acutely aware its virtually impossible to have to have zero backlash A neutral rake would work but adds load to the machine which is also undesirable. I think you have found the flaw in shaper design. Adam has the same problem
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
I'll just have to remember to wind back the lash . 👍
@darynradcliffe2909
@darynradcliffe2909 8 месяцев назад
I'm not the pheasant plucker ,I'm the pheasant plucker's son ,I'm only plucking pheasants till the pheasant plucker comes ...
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Lol , that's it ! 👍
@tgfcujhb7583
@tgfcujhb7583 8 месяцев назад
Abc slow tv programme...😁👍👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Cheers 👍
@Warped65er
@Warped65er 8 месяцев назад
Thx for the vid.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
No worries . 👍
@fearlyenrage
@fearlyenrage 4 месяца назад
Hi Is there an advantage to a shaper instead of milling such a part?
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 4 месяца назад
No advantage , milling would have taken a fraction of the time . But i wanted to use the shaper ! 👍
@fearlyenrage
@fearlyenrage 4 месяца назад
@@swanvalleymachineshop musing the shaper ok. I muse my Schaublin 102-vm lathe too ^^
@somebodyelse6673
@somebodyelse6673 8 месяцев назад
I thought it was a tractor seat?
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Lol , an anti tank gun ( tractor for RU-vid 's sake ! ) 👍
@liamkelly8684
@liamkelly8684 8 месяцев назад
There 100% knock off incerts Aliexpress sells them there shite
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
I agree , i did not get these from the Iscar rep ! 👍
@jdmccorful
@jdmccorful 8 месяцев назад
I enjoyed the demostration on your Shaper. Picked up good tips, thanks. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 8 месяцев назад
Thanks . 👍
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