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Omfg ikr. The actor is kinda underrated tbh, I want to see her in more movies. Same with the actor who played Alice in Cammile’s mental health ward flashbacks...SHE WAS SOO GOOOD!!! I’ve only seen her in ‘Everything Sucks!’ but other then that no movies and stuff. They’re insanely good actors
The show was really something else. The music, the acting, cinematography, the editing, all set the dark, ominous mood of Windgap. I couldn't stop thinking of that finale the day after.
Did you guys not pay attention to Alan in the finale? He lies to the police about Camille being "out with her friends." This happens while she is upstairs essentially slowly dying and trying to get help. Also, he outright silences Amma when she tries to talk about what Adora had been doing. The lie to the detective was too blatant to ignore. He is an accomplice with the poison. No speculation needed.
Rohan Patre I think that's sort of unimportant. It could be that he is wholly supportive of her decisions. He just went along with what she wanted in many cases in the series as well. It's tough to tell exactly why, but it's clear that he was part of it, or at least aware.
Alan doesn't seem to have a job. So I wonder if maybe that has something to do with it. I think Adora has the money from her family owned pig farm. I kind of wonder if Adore poisoned her parents as well since they died shortly after Camille was born.
In a way, yes. He seems to have some kind of personality disorder that makes him dependent on Adora. Even during her trial, when she'd have lost social standing and finances he's seen sitting right behind her. He accepts constant emotional abuse from her (ignoring him, dismissing him, openly flirting with the chief of police in their house) and was willing to sacrifice his daughters' lives (Marian and Amma) to keep her happy.
i remember when they were discussing of John getting the death penalty for the murders at dinner and at some points Amma saying "would you be more sad if John died or I died?" in a way confessing that she did the murders but it completely went over my head at that point! it was brilliant!
I also think she didn’t go get Richard because it’s later stated that she built a tolerance for the poison that their mother was feeding them and I think she knew that Camille was probably gonna die from the poison because it’s also stated that she didn’t have a tolerance for it and that she was probably gonna die if she didn’t get help soon, so I think that Amma knew that she had a tolerance for it and that Camille didn’t and so she didn’t go get Richard because she was jealous of the new love and affection that Adora was giving Camille so she just tried to wait and let the poison take it’s course on Camille
Ann and Natalie died because Adora paid attention to them. Amma could only view it as a raw deal. Amma, who had allowed Adora to sicken her for so long. Sometimes when you let people do things to you, you’re really doing it to them. Amma controlled Adora by letting Adora sicken her. In return, she demanded uncontested love and loyalty. No other little girls allowed. For the same reasons she murdered Lily Burke/May. Because, Amma suspected, Camille liked her better. You can come up with four thousand other guesses, of course, about why Amma did it. In the end, the fact remains: Amma enjoyed hurting.
Just finished watching this show and I can't believe Amma was the killer the whole time but it makes sense of how much her moods would change through the show.
Alicia CVIRGO I didn’t even know she was the killer 😭😭 Omg it didn’t click to me that she was the killer, I thought everything was committed by the mom.
Anybody noticed that Amma's name is an anagram to Mama? That both Adora and Amma's names begin and ended with the letter A? It speak volume who Adora saw more like herself and favored the Most out of her 3 daughters. It explained the Greek goddess crown Persephone that Adora gave to Amma......gives out the punishment in their town.
Amma actually means 'mother' in a lot of Indian languages. Not sure if the author was aware of this, but since I am indian this definitely made it interesting for me right from the start.
@@bulbbulb9210 it would never occur to me that a tv show would have a post credits scene, that is only something I thought was done in movies, very cool though.
So what I got from this flash scene is that she murdered the 2 girls in wind gap with her friends and she also killed her new friend in St. Louis. Crazy bitch
Wow Amma was so bold about the murder she even said it to the undercover cop. It was when she put the lolipop in camilles hair and then says “ You could kill me right here and you know what? dickie boy still couldn’t figure it out.” [LITERALLY CONFESSED] Also in the first episode when Camille goes to the Forest for the search party the three girls meet her and Amma says at one point that natalie missing is surprising in this town because the towns so dead.. and then she laughs repeating “dead” and her friends chuckle. Wild wild
I was completely taken by surprise, After Adora got arrested and the series was continuing I thought Amma was her accomplice. Wow took quite a turn, poor Camille.
I need to know about Camille’s dad and why Adora said that thing about her hair being in curlers. Why was the blood under the bed? What about Johns girlfriend being completely psycho and needing her name be printed in the paper. What’s Adoras relationship with the police chief. I also really wanted to see how Camille’s sister died. I am gonna read the book but it bothers me that none of those questions were answered.
All that (the psycho girlfriend, the realtionship with the chief...) are just red herrings. Those things doesn't matter to the story at all and are not in the book. In fact, a lot of things were changed in the TV show.
Natalie was held hostage in her own home by Amma and friends and she was banged around before she was taken into the woods and murdered. This is why there was blood under the bed. That’s from the book. I had to look it up because it bothered me.
Adora was drunk and got confused - she said Camille refused to put her hair in curlers, but she got that mixed up with Ann, who cut off all her hair instead of letting her mother curl it. She tried to befriend Ann because Ann was wild like Camille and Adora wanted to tame her, which pissed off Amma.
The only plot hole I see is that the mother was helping Amma with the dollhouse through the whole show. Didn’t she see the teeth? Maybe she knew her daughter was a murderer the whole time? Based on the conversation that we didn’t hear when Amma visited her mother in prison maybe Adora is covering for Amma?
Amanda Lagerfeld adora didnt know about the theeth floor, remember in ep 7 when adora wanted to take the dollhouse apart because doesnt need it anymore, amma freaked out and lied in bed quickly, because she was afraid adora would see inside the dollhouse in that moment.
I think adora knew, or at least had a feeling. Why didn't she want Camille to do the story. Why was she always concerned about where Amma was. Because she knew. Deep down inside adora knew.
Just finished the show this past weekend. Not that it undermines the shows directing, acting, art style, music, etc. I thought it was not exactly obvious but pretty glaring that Amma and her friends were the culprits or at least knew something. If there was a murderer targeting people with the same description as you (female teenagers) you would not be rollerskating in the dead of night...unless of course you knew something...
The obvious clue that was given to us that those 3 were the culprit was that even though they fit the victims profile, they were out and about the town all drunk, drugged and carefree while all the others followed the curfew and barely any children played outside.
Allen even tells adora while she's mixing the "medicine" for Amma, "Don't go to far" or something to that effect. Obviously meaning he knows she's making their daughter sick,just be careful not to kill her. He makes a few comments throughout the show hes aware of what she's capable of. He even lies to Richard when he comes to the house looking for Camille. She's half dead upstairs,he tells Richard she's out w/ friends. He should have went to jail also as an accomplice. When Amma goes to live with Camille she has a hard time getting him to pay for mamas schooling which shows he isn't that attached to her. Adora was all that mattered to him and becides,why get attached to a child when there's a possibility mommas going to kill it anyway. My mother acts just like Adora. ILOVED THIS SHOW. Adora ends up caught & in jail. I know mine will continue to reek havoc but this show gave me hope.
@@luxcikorkov6148 i kinda disagree. While the book gives more closure, it kinda just falls like flynn was trying to rush through it. I think this ending is best thematically and commercially, since more people will go read the book now.
I didn’t see the book’s finale as any bleaker than the show’s. The book ends on that line about leaning toward kindness that the show used in an article Camille writes. While Camille’s relapse does leave us a little bit discouraged about where she is mentally, the fact is that she isn’t alone. Despite losing her whole family (which one might argue, save Marian, never really was much of a family to her) Curry and Eileen seem to be giving her some of the love and care her family never did.
While the series ending provided an effectively shocking twist, there was little in the way of explaining WHY Amma and her friends would kill the girls. I read the book before viewing the series, and was thinking "They've got a lot of explaining to do" as the minutes were counting down in the finale.
I think she learnt that biting from Adora... remember there was a small scene where Adora was holding a baby Marian and young Camille was watching her mother and baby sister through the stairs and all of a sudden Adora was biting the baby Marian and there was small baby cry...and Natalie and Ann had a close relationship with Adora...may be may be not. I am nor sure!! I am quite shaken up by the ending and am still processing it.
actually the baby that adora bit was amma, because marian dies when camille is 13 and has very short hair at the time. in that clip camille had very long hair.@@Redwoodtree34567
Totally loved the series! They left so many issues up in the air--what happened to Amma? Did the reality cause Camille to relapse? What about Alan? Excellent though, in the aspect that I have thought and rethought about it. It really leaves a lot of room for thought.
Well, At the end of the Book, Camille relapses and she tries to kill herself or self harm herself with a Knife fortunately Curry prevents her from doing so. She could never return to Wind Gap or her friends or associates because of what her Mother and sister had done. The terrible state she's in. She's at peace within herself with Curry and Eileen taking care of her.
@@abeyshe1021 Amma is the killer of the two girls in the novel. And when Camille gains custody of her half-sister, Amma, who murders again. Another girl whom Amma is jealous of. Adora Crellin, The mother of Camille, Marian and Amma. She murdered Marian by poisoning her.
Woah really? I watched the show first and many people are saying the show is better. Personally, I have no opinions as I've never read the book. But I guess I'll form an opinion myself. Thanks for giving me an excuse to revisit Sharp Objects!
I knew Amma was the killer from the second episode. There were waaaaay too many clear and blatant signs to where I thought it was to intentionally mislead the audience.. awkward 😂 ~ She kept mentioning how she could make her friends do whatever she wants and she acts dramatic when she’s around her peers to gain popularity. ~ It also makes sense why she never took the curfew rule seriously. Home girl was casually roller skating at wee hours in the night. Zero fucks haha. ~ They had mentioned how Ann was propped up at the scene of the crime like a doll (Amma is obsessed with her dollhouse) ~ It was mentioned that Amma, Ann, and Natalie would hang out in the creepy shed together. Amma also said that she got in a fight with them before they died. ~ Amma’s friend said that the killer didn’t kill cool girls in the convenience store and they all laughed. ~ In the swimming pool scene, John Keene told Amma that she was going to get what was coming to her (something along those lines). I didn’t see Adora’s mental illness coming though 🫢 That was shocking!
@@camicat111 Camille turns in all three and they are institutionalized until they turn 18 although Camille suspects Amma will be kept in the institution permanently.
She was scared of Amma and was trying to hint to camille to please call her mom because she had a bad feeling. Camille did nothing and then she died lol
Amma thought of those writings on her hand as a sign of her trying to be like Camille by replicating the cuts on her body. This coupled with the fact that she wanted to be a politician/journalist ticked Amma off to a point of murdering Mae. She was looking to get close to who Amma feels attached to; Camille.
i read that it was a message to remind her self to call her mom but also like a sign for camille to call adora and ask more questions about who really killed the little girls
hey um the explanation i could think of is Camille has this hallucinations (theyre rlly not hallucinations)... ok i dont know how to explain it but throughout the episodes you may see words in the scene that interprets what Camille is thinking like for example theres this scene where there is a word scratched in her car.. it was scared at first when she left it but when she came but it is sacred. It is a lot of words you can look it up
Two things. Realistically I would think Camille would have had her word/scars upside down, so she could read her own words, not always carving them (upside down to her) so the public (who she hid them from view) could see them. Also, the 2 last endings are during the last credits! I'm not sure how many people missed seeing them!
@@hamid-fr5td Why, thank you, Hamid! If you want to see more great, intense tv series, I really recommend Killing Eve, Barry, The Undoing, Escape at Dannemora and Mare of Easttown. :)
Yes! I now love her too because of her wonderful acting in this show which I didn't expect (I know Im sorry but to be fair the films I know of her are for when I was a child watching children's films). This was an interesting take to what I've usually seen her in. I totally stan right then.
Both mother and daughter are killers and momma protected her baby bc she knew she led her to commit the acts. Both of them are sick and Camille is the middle ground. She's the only one that ever stood up to both of them but unfortunately gave in to save them bc she felt unloved and was finally given a chance to feel at peace with her family.
I fucking knew it was here. Always acting like 2 different people, and with their mother bat shit crazy I'm not surprised. I loved the series, I just wished it was longer. Great acting right there! FUCK!
The montage during the finales credits were is shows amma killing the girls. In one does it show her AND her friends committing the murders or was I tripping.? Please clarify for meeee
Anyone catch Alan playing RIDERS ON THE STORM? Foreshadowing ... "There's a killer on the road His brain is squirmin' like a toad Take a long holiday Let your children play If you give this man a ride, sweet family will die Killer on the road" Thought he was the killer, after that scene. I was wrong but close to home.
Adora arranged for a Mexican employee to claim that John threw the bike into the ‘pond’ at the pig farm. Where did the bike come from, how did it get to the pond, and how did Adora find out about it? We know that John didn’t do it.
I thought it was Amma who made the employee say that to cover her tracks. She says that men will do whatever she wants if she gave them something. And she always says that girl friends can not be trusted. Tbh, I was surprised that it was her girl friends who helped her to kill. I think she would kill her both friends when they have come to their senses
Did anyone else think that the journalists wife was exactly the same as Adora? Making him sick so she could care for him. She was always there and I made a point to always show him sick at home. He says, I’m feeling better now. My wife was taking such good care of me. Almost couldn’t nursed me to death. I think he started to feel better because the wife stopped when she heard about Adora and knew she might be caught.
I'm usually quick on the uptake, as far as fictional works go. But I needed this video. When I watched the end credit scenes, I was confused by the scene where more than on girl seemed involved. Didn't even dawn on me Amma had help from her roller buddies. Even knowing the twist(s) now, I want to read the book. Thanks for this video.
Isn't it too slow? I was looking for comment like this but everyone here are saying wow amazing show, But i feel too slow to reach and nothing exciting much expect who is the killer?
What is interesting to me is that - this is a story about transgenerational trauma. Women in white was abused women and she was their great great grandmother, it is a series about a trauma passing from generation to generation, getting more serious until the new girl becomes a killer, psycho killer, and a charismatic that attracts other girls into killing people. So the story of the boys that rape Camille, in the same space where few years later will be the story of her sister murderess, so it is kind of a feminist narrative of villains' where girls become worst than the boys...In the broader sense it is a very strange family story... Camille being the only one who is actually sane, has bpd, but more sane than others
why nobody mentions the bite on Allan's hand? it was mentioned a few times by victim's brother that she liked to bite? pls someone EXPLAIN?! i think Allan was helping Amma
Amma not the biter it was the second girl she murdered with her friends the biter. Spolier!!! John's sister bitten off his girlfriend's ear lobe too. Read the book.
for some reason I just assumed that in the ending Amma was making fake teeth and using it to build her mothers floor in the dollhouse just to cope with the trauma of her mother being a killer. I had to read an article to realize that wasn't it at all XD
Can anybody fill me in what Adora exactly meant when she said Amma something along the lines that when Camille leaves things will be back to they were before? It feels like a key line figuring the mysteries after watching the end but I can't put my finger on it. Does it somehow suggest Adora knew about the murders and Amma knew she knew or does it refer to Amma staying in bed and accepting her mom's "medicine"?
I think maybe a little bit of both. At least to amma. Because amma knew how to play the game she knew she could go out and do whatever she liked at night party drink maybe even kill so long as she came home and let adora “take care of her”. With Camille around poking her nose in everyone’s business as well as amma getting attached to her instead of their mother everything was thrown out of routine for them so if Camille left they can go back to the little fantasy game they’ve created. I think adora had a feeling about amma but she was perfectly content so long as her baby needed her. She’d be more than willing to protect her that way I think.
What a great show, I thought it was the kid from the first time she said "boys do whatever..." but I always thought it was with the help of her father...
it was the soccer bois rape sessions , she mentioned when one of the rapists tried to apologize that she got fucked , which means she could not be the first one , that town is fucked up
Other clues: +While there is a serial killer in town, Amma and her friends walk around freely and without fear. + Even though they are friends, Amma and her team do not feel sorry for the dead girls.
I just have one simple question which makes this twist so unbelievable. Why did her friends go along with the murders? We don’t know anything about them other than being bitches that looked up to Amma. It’s one thing for a toxic friend to be manipulative, but for a group of teenage girls to get away with those murders? Come on. Is there something I’m missing?
Max H. Did you ever hear of Slenderman? He is not real yet girls the same age as Amma killed for him. I don't remember much about that but this show sharp objects reminded me so much of the real case. Maybe the author got some of her ideas from the Slenderman crime and explinations in their mindset. Just my guess here, not science :)
Maybe they were afraid of Amma. You can see in the Ann's murder scene how one of Amma's "friends" looks up to her really scared while holding the girl's hand. Kill or be killed, I think.
It's because Amma comes from one of the fanciest families in the area. So basically she has power over who is and who isn't popular. In Windgap if you aren't popular you are nothing and people tend to stay in the same roles after high school as well.
They explain it more in the book, Amma is the most popular girl at school and from the wealthiest family in town-crossing her would be suicide and if she's willing to murder someone, if you say no wouldn't you be next on her list? Not to mention they're teenagers. They're young, stupid and can be pressured to do anything.
In the book actually one of her friends started to feel guilty and unravel and so Amma had planned to kill her too. She was found out before she could.
@@jeannes.356 I missed the ending credits, I was so baffled by that plot twist that I was floored! and now I have to go back to see that ending credit. Thanks.
Adora wasn’t the killer of the two girls it was amma and her friends. The last scene and the post credit scenes explains it. Adora kill her daughter by overdosed but not the other girls.