@@chiefline7084 I saw Jaws at the theater when I was 7 years old, yes it scared the crap out of me but even at that age I was fascinated by Shaw's portrayal and still am
@KMN-bg3yu Saw on the big screen when it was shown on the anniversary. Different generations in the audience. 2 young girls smirking next to us all about how fake Jaws was. But they got into the story & suddenly weren't smirking anymore😂😂😂😂
That whole speech was palpable PTSD. The sigh he gives right before "ah...then you hear that horrible high pitched screamin..." you can feel how traumatized he was by his experience with sharks after the sinking
and indeed shaw was a lovely man in private life but really competetive in anything he undertook.from ping pong to films. a bit like the dad in the great santini.however robert would really want the opponent to do well.it wasnt about winning or being best with him he wanted them both or all to play at the same heightened level he did or better to make the game or film the best they could achieve on the day.the caretaker is a fine example he deliberately plays smaller and smaller so pleasence and bates have to up their game to draw the attention away from him as by then he has so minimised his performance the audience are riveted by his smallest whisper or gesture.
No actor is s genius who bullies others. It's sadistic, cruel and counter productive on a film and TV set. Imagine if this was an office situation or another industry. Or even you being at the brunt of some esteem wrecking tongue?
@@foleyartist62 Genius and kindness often don’t come in the same package, then we make it worse by giving the genius slack on being a good person because we want the genius. And it’s not limited to “creative” industries. Plenty of places will tolerate bad behavior by a top sales person, for example…as long as they stay on top.
@@foleyartist62 The 'nice' approach doesn't guarantee the best results. Especially when you're trying to create an aura of brooding menace. Shaw was a total dick, and it got results that probably wouldn't have been attained had he been an agreeable chap who bent over backwards to make Dreyfuss feel welcome. It's only modern sensibilities which have us believing we must all get along.
I met Richard Dreyfuss at a Rhode Island Comicon in November 2019. He was funny, kind and loved to talk...and shake hands. He shook my hand 4 times. Took as many photos with him. I was only supposed to get his autograph, which I did on an insert of my Jaws DVD. But since I was on line for 4 hours waiting to meet him, they ok'd the photos. He and his wife also had the Comicon people give those of us waiting on line candy, fruit snacks and granola bars. The both of them were sweethearts to us.
The sad thing about Robert Shaw is that he died just when he was coming into his own as huge character actor. Despite his spats with Dreyfuss, he says what a kind man Robert was when he wasn't acting. A great loss to the acting world and Quint still remains one of cinemas greatest characters thanks to him.
Storm Hawk Robert Shaw was also starting to lead some roles at end of his career like Black Sunday in 1977 and The Deep but died of a heart attack in 1978 while on break from filming a movie Avalanche Express which was released in 1979 and Shaw died during post production. Shaw had been acting for years before his death he debuted in 1951 in films and one of his other most famous roles was as the villain Red Grant in 1963’s From Russia With Love where goes against Sean Connery’s James Bond one of my favorite roles of Shaw’s besides his role as Quint.
To this day, Richard tears up and cries like a baby when someone talks about Robert. "You have no idea how grand and large Robert was." -Richard Dreyfuss
+Paul McCormack Way to write off an entire generation of people. Sure there are plenty of idiots, but remember there are plenty of idiots in every generation, including your own
Shaw really was magnificent. We lost him way too soon. Dreyfus is an actor I’ve grown to appreciate more over time. To this day I’m gonna watch Jaws at least 3-4 times a year.
My late brother-in-law was a crewman aboard U.S.S. Indianapolis. He had an appendicitis attack at Pearl Harbor and was hospitalized before the ship departed upon it's fateful mission. ...missing ship's movement.
I don't believe Shaw really disliked Dreyfuss. I think he saw something in Dreyfuss that he recognised and tried to get it out of him. Him "pushing" Dreyfuss was a game to get him on his level. And he succeeded.
Angus Young Shaw thought Dreyfuss was young and arrogant. They didn’t see eye to eye on set and Dreyfus didn’t like Shaw because of his heavy drinking for one thing as would be on set with drawing from alcohol or drink during breaks and hard to work with on set.
Shaw was a writer. He understands where the conflict is in the story. To make it all the more real he would just give it to Dreyfuss. They were supposed to hate each other.
My buddy was a limo driver in NYC and drove lots of Hollywood stars... He said one of the nicest guys he ever drove was Richard Dreyfuss... All the limo drivers always wanted to drive him... Great guy.
I loved how Dreyfus talked and even got choked up when he met Shaw’s granddaughter. When you are younger you don’t have the insight or wisdom to see things objectively and It must have been bittersweet for him to have the opportunity to give love back to a family member.
Dreyfuss did say he took a lot of Drugs back then and that he in part got this job or the close I counters job by telling people that the person they were going to hire was a big drug user without mentioning that he was as well. But people mature and Richard does some amazing things these days... He is about the most decent person trying to fix poltics.. He doesn't take a side he just works at getting good civics back into school so that Amaricans understand how goverment works and why the presidnet can't do everything etc.. The most decent polticol work of any actor.
Old addicts get weepy, that's how they are. Tears don't make someone good. Dreyfuss was a horrid little man in his youth. Such a talented actor would have been an A list star, and he was, for about 15 minutes. He burned too many bridges and lost his place. We should never lionize performers. We don't deserve
'Jaws' is one of the best films ever made. Richard Dreyfuss is a brilliant actor. Each "lead" actor in that film was great though. They all had charisma too. I felt for each of the characters.
Considering what Dreyfuss admits about the private Shaw, this begs the question. Did Shaw really not like the young Dreyfuss, or was he brilliantly goading him into portraying a more realistic relationship between their characters? I would like to give Shaw the benefit of the doubt, considering his talent and experience, but perhaps he was just a gigantic douchenozzle.
Shaw was known to be a bully and he liked pick on younger actors. But I think deep down he felt quite intimidated by Dreyfuss and feared that he'd get upstaged somehow. I hear he had a similar situation with Connery on FRWL. But the truth is along with Dreyfuss he is one of the greats.
Absolutely begs it and I side with Shaw bringing the characters to the boat to make the relationship that more affective and realistic than it otherwise might have been -- a method acting technique, if you think about it.
I can see it being a mixture of both, and maybe even a few more things. But I wouldn't completely put the blame on Shaw. Dreyfuss himself admitted that he was insufferable because of his youth and naivety. Dreyfuss was young and had only one leading role under his belt (which he claimed was terrible and was the reason he wanted to do Jaws) yet had a huge ego that made him insufferable on set. When everybody was miserable from being out in the the ocean for 15+ hours, Dreyfuss would whine and act like he was 'too big' or 'too good' to be putting up with the conditions of shooting the picture (which is disrespectful to everyone including Spielberg, and especially the special effects team who had to operate/fix the shark) in front of everybody. According to Scheider, it got on Shaw's nerves (as it would me) and he decided that Dreyfuss needed to be knocked down a peg or two.
Shaw also came to the set buzzed on Jameson's every day when they were shooting the boat scenes. A local was hired to bring him out and Shaw would tell him to drive the boat as slow as possible. Read the book "Memories from Martha's Vineyard." It has absolutely everything there is to know about the movie. There's even a page devoted to Pippit, the dog that gets eaten!
I think Robert Shaw treated him that way to get some real intensity between them to incorporate into their roles to make them even more realistic. He was a genius
@@foleyartist62 nah.. It's clear Dreyfuss was a bit of a tosser (slagging off the production to the press etc and "I'm better than this attitude" that everyone alludes to here) and Shaw with his experience clearly couldn't be arsed humouring an entitled "star"
Robert Shaw was all time great. They don’t make actors like that anymore. Many forget Robert Shaw was a Bond villain. Obviously Jaws became a classic but A Man for All Seasons is my favourite Robert Shaw performance but playing next to Paul Scofield brought out the best in him.
Jaws, the only film (for me personally) where ALL, in this case three, lead actors are charismatic and totally believable. The true art of acting. Back in the good old days :p
i like to believe it was Shaw who was aware of their characters back and forth competitive nature in the script... and did everything he could outside of their acting realm to reinforce their characters' relationship. Whatever it was... I'm grateful... because we have two AMAZING performances (especially Shaw's) forever recorded in this film. Their relationship was my favorite part of Jaws.
I couldnt imagine poor Spielberg getting between these guys and Bruce breaking down along w Universal execs on his tail. Special kind of person to be director
Spielberg would have started most of it.. He would have delayed things to keep them on the boat, mess with food etc.. Everything to get them mad and then them take it out on each other while he watched..
Dreyfuss nearly went to tears talking about Shaw. Just enormous respect despite how difficult he could be and how Dreyfuss was also known to be a problem.
How can you not Love Dickey Dreyfuss , speaks about a man who was near on Bullyish with so much respect and compassion because he knew deep down he was a Lovely man and probably did Instigate tension on purpose because he was such a professional and wanted a real sense of dislike for one another just would of been a shame if Dreyfus didn’t know it was a plot if Shaw did do that obviously lool
It's still one of the all-time great movies. And I think, looking back, that Richard Dreyfuss' acting performance is probably the best one in the movie. Of course, they were all great.
There was an interview like this, where Dreyfuss described that scene on the Orca where Shaw/Quint yells "Hooper, you idiot, STARBOARD, ain't you watchin' it???" He explained how they'd been out on the water all day, they were all sun-baked, seasick, and tired of Spielberg repeatedly making them do that take over and over. When Spielberg asked for another take, Shaw's anger and frustration boiled over, which resulted in the absolutely volcanic delivery of that line we see in the film. Anybody ever seen that interview? I've not been able to find it. I thought it brilliantly showed how Spielberg KNEW Shaw had more to give, and had to drive him a bit on that particular occasion to get the delivery just the way he wanted it.
I'm a fan of much of Dreyfuss' work, but Shaw was a PRESENCE that few others can command. Shaw's Quint made me believe EVERY SECOND of the performance. I saw him AS THAT CHARACTER. With Dreyfuss, I was always conscious it was an actor playing a role. Well acted... but an actor. Shaw was so fully immersed, there was no separation.
i'm assuming shaws role was what they wanted oliver reed to play but was on another job at the time, he'd of probably given dreyfuss even more of a hard time lol pretty sure that shaw did it to get the best out of dreyfuss though, seems everyone else took it more seriously than the 2 it involved.
Shaw lived in Tourmakeady in the West of Ireland (in County Mayo close to the North Galway border, it's about a 1 hr drive North of Galway City)..... he died while driving from Castlebar, at only age 51, heart attack. This was only a few months after filming Force 10 from Navarone, with Harrison Ford, in UK & Yugoslavia. The landscape is somewhat similar to the areas in England he grew up in, Cornwall being one of them i think. RIP
I think Shaw's animus towards Dreyfuss contributed to their character's hostile relationship. Love scenes between actors who don't like each other can be difficult but this conflict added to the film. Shaw was a force to be reckoned with, for sure.
That had to be calculated to a degree...him saying I don't believe you can act to degree sufficient to my liking...so we will cease to act as we walk to set then budday!
To set the full state of affairs - behind the tension that Shaw was generating with Dreyfus, be it a game or a method or whatever, there was the fact that all three leads were convinced the film project was going nowhere, and had no faith in young director Spielberg. As supreme professionals, they still turned in their best effort day after day, including Spielberg. Maybe Shaw’s game was a way of distracting from that.
Shaw had no real animosity towards Dreyfuss. He knew Hooper and Quint would have an antagonistic relationship so, like a good method actor, pushed Dreyfuss and screen magic was made.
Seeing stuff like this, and him meeting Shaw's granddaughter, makes me thing "Dreyfuss never hated Robert Shaw." He has, complicated, feelings about Shaw. And Shaw was a complicated man, so it makes sense. It makes me wish that Shaw had lived longer because I wonder how they might have interacted later on?
Shaw was a writer. He understands conflict in stories. As Bill Butler said. "It was intentional". They are supposed to hate each other in the story. Shaw just made that easy for him.
And who the hell are YOU to claim Shaw probably beat his kids? You do know that he had TEN children and was considered a loving father, right? He wasn't violent to Dreyfuss. Bill Butler (cameraman)says that he reckons the antagonism was a perfectly deliberate ploy by Shaw to get a reaction out of Dreyfuss on camera. Dreyfuss himself said that in private Robert Shaw was warm, sweet, giving and funny towards him and only on set did he rile Dreyfuss. It was all planned to get a reaction.
Jaws revived Shaw's career after it slumped a little after The Sting. He was already a star, but Quint made him a STAR. How sad that he died just three short years later.
The thing was Shaw belonged to this old school creed of actors; wartime, british,very masculine and hard-working with stage experience. Dreyfuss was the opposite; a young new wave middle american, more method based, and more mental focus than physical. Thats why sparks flew between this two that dissimilar to the ones with sean connery( whos also old-school)
@@themancuniancandidate2744 they seemed quite friendly. They worked together three times once before bond and again after. I'm sure they would have again had Shaw not passed. Similar backgrounds
By the way, Lorraine Gary said that Robert Shaw was charming and that she was madly in love with him. Other people making Jaws have said the same thing about Shaw. He was well liked by the cast and crew. Only problem was that he drank too much...but he never became violent through it.
Never be another movie like jaws, it is a timeless classic, just something about 1975 , every actor in it was superb and quint especially, Mr Shaw excelled as that character, I use jaws as a password even as a security question answer to favorite movie on a app
This has to be why the on screen chemistry looked and sounded so seriously authentic. Jaws was and will always be my favorite horror film. Second overall behind Citizen Kane.
You see Steven could have stepped in but as a great director he let them fight and hate each other because he knew it would be fuel for their characters, whom in the story fought and hated each other. Godamn that’s a directors wet dream right there
This is one of the sweetest interviews. Dreyfuss met Shaw’s granddaughter in Ireland, and it meant a lot to both of them. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wKX0n99hX5U.html
Shaw wasn't Irish. He spent his early life in Lancashire, Scotland, Cornwall and Yorkshire. And then London. He did choose to live in Ireland after he had become a successful actor.
They are both brilliant in Jaws. I think Shaw was let a Japanese Sensei disciplining Dreyfuss. Jaws is a great movie. Toughest shoot of all time. Spielberg almost had a breakdown making it.
I would put Shaw's performance in "Jaws" up against anything Daniel Day-Lewis has done. He is a complete tour de force in this film. Everyone in this movie is great, but he is just on another level. Dreyfuss is entertaining in anything, but he's had the reputation of being hard to work with for 45+ years. I think after Shaw died, Dreyfuss realized there's no benefit to badmouthing such an amazing actor who's passed on... especially when his method benefited the movie so much.
You all know me.....know how I earn a livin'. You wanna play it cheap? Be on welfare all winter? I'll find 'im for three...but I'll catch 'im, an' kill 'im, for ten. We gotta do it quick too.... My favorite scene in the whole movie!
Shaw was a alpha male compared to Dreyfuss being just about the opposite. Rolling Stone did a story about this many years ago. He is missed. Only Shaw could have given so much life to the character of Quint.
Are you talking about the old Grover Lewis article that he wrote on the set of "The Sting"? I'd agree if that's what you're referencing....Shaw, during that interview, comes off as an ultra alpha male...he looks at Newman and Redford as competition...sizing them up...figuring which ones might fight dirty in a sporting contest, etc... It's also telling that Shaw centered on Dreyfuss for that kind of treatment and reportedly got along fine with Roy Scheider.....Scheider was a Gold Gloves boxer in his youth, was older, had done a stint in the military...Shaw probably knew who to "push" and who not to.
The other choice, Sterling Hayden, could have done it just as well. But it's Shaw's role for all time now, and Shaw will always be thought of as Quint, and Hayden as General Ripper.
There have been at least two books written about the making of the movie "Jaws" and I have no idea how many documentaries. Isn't it about time somebody made a MOVIE about the making of "Jaws"? Who WOULDN'T want to see that movie? It was the movie that kicked off Steven Spielberg's career. It almost never got finished; the shark kept breaking down & had to be redesigned, the boat that was designed to sink on cue wouldn't sink but the actual boat that wasn't supposed to sink - sank. The last reel of film fell into the water (with the camera) they had to send divers down with a film bag and retrieve the film while still underwater and put the film bag in a bucket & apparently Steven Spielberg rode all the way back to Los Angeles with that bucket in his lap. That movie could have ruined Spielberg's career but instead it became the ORIGIN of the word "Block Buster" because people were lined up all the way around the block to watch it. If you were going to make a movie about the making of the movie "Jaws"... what would you call it?
Shaw was great. Dreyfuss is OK. I have always felt that if I could buy Dreyfuss for what he is worth and sell him for what he THINKS he is worth I would have more money than Bezos.
Major cinematic history. The Quint-Hooper hatred was epic and is still a joy to watch again and again as there is comedy intertwined in the dialogue (half assed astronaut......Hooper stop playing with yourself). Robert Shaw knew he had to get Dreyfuss's goat before filming was over... as they would never work together again.
I think Bill Murray had heard how Dreyfuss got his brief stint on The Graduate; by telling the casting director how other actors couldn't do his role and locking the part for himself. Dreyfuss himself actually said this recently.
It doesn't sound like Roy Scheider was that big of a Richard Dreyfuss fan either, which may have been understandable. My impression based on what I've read of Dreyfuss is that at that time and afterwards, he was pretty insufferable.
"With 10 kids, from 3 wives...he wasn't a loving hubby, was he?"" He was married to his first wife for nearly 10 years. They had 4 daughters. He was married to his second wife for nearly 10 years until she DIED in 1975. They had 2 sons, 2 daughters. He was married to his third wife for 2 years until HE HIMSELF died. They had 1 son and he adopted her other son. Sounds like an all round great father and I have never heard any of his children complain about being beaten by him.
Robert shaw was probably thee most underrated actor of his generation. I try not to bandy around the term 'genius'; but certainly he and his portrayal of Quint apply in this circumstance. God bless him and all his many (and rightly so) descendants.
So, has team Jaws finally realized that Robert Shaw is what most of us have been watching for for years? Thank goodness they finally seem to have realized this and publicly acknowledged it. A true treasure, gone far too soon. If not for that performance, they might as well have just gone out on Hooper's boat.
The three main characters are pretty ensemble and play their parts well in the picture but with Shaw they were able to transcend from a high end B-monster movie to what is nothing short of a classic - it all goes back to Shaw when he grabs Dreyfuss by the arm and tells him the tattoo he had removed was the USS Indianapolis and follows with his story. Spielberg was very lucky to get the actors he got, especially Shaw.
Yes I have read the novel Jaws. I'm talking about the MOVIE Hooper. Richard Dreyfuss was interview near the end of filming in September 1974 and he said he didn't like the way his MOVIE character was written. He was sooooooooooooooo wrong. In later years he even admitted he was wrong and knew nothing about film back then.
I've seen Richard talk about Shaw numerous and has even gotten emotional but he has always spoke respectfully of the man. You can tell though it was more then rivalry, Shaw genuinely bullied Richard on set.
Richard was bullied far worse by Bill Murry.. I think that when Bully actors look for a target Richard is who they aim at.. He has talk before about how he cries very easily and has problems holding in his emotions..
I like Dreyfuss but you are sticking up for him way too much. This guy was bigheaded on the set of Jaws. He thought he was too good for the movie and thought he shouldn't be there but rather signing autographs in New York. He also thought the film would be crap and even said at the time that his character was badly written. Wow. How wrong can one man be? It's no wonder Robert Shaw knew how to get under his skin.
