"She’s Flapping In The Wind A Bit" | Is Netflix's Baby Reindeer Entertainment Or Exploitation? 

Na I think she’s weird, and a bit cooky , she was the butt of jokes at the pub ! The story’s grew …he moved on , the story grew into a legend and he cashed in without thinking she would ever get found.

​@@cgray8267exactly

Shame Piers didn't ask her about the alleged injunction that Laura Walker / Wray alleged that her and her then husband had to obtain on her, in 2002

Another theory is she changed her name. There is at least 1 name change for sure so she may have been convicted under another before that!

@jessymonster he said she didn't go prison.

” In interviews about the series, Gadd said while Baby Reindeer was fictionalized for the Netflix series, he noted that, “Emotionally, it's all 100% true.”----what the heck does that mean? and why did the series start with "This is a true story?: Is it one of the "My Truth" cliches?--I want to know what was true and what was fiction? I also want to know if Gadd was replying to these texts and emails that she was sending and apparently he has admitted to doing some physical things with his body parts while looking at her picture?-Please help it make sense--I can't. He has also admitted to not always being sober and at times he led his stocker on

Netflix certainly took liberties with the truth onThe Crown and many people believed their depiction of the RF--

​@@coralieelliott2076It's extremely obvious that she almost drove him mad. He was having an episode in his life. Do you realise how young he was? He was 25 when it started.

@@coralieelliott2076 He allegedly also had drug issues as he alleged that a comedy producer groomed him. But he does state to be fair that he was partly culpable. Also former MP's wife Laura Wray has alleged she was a previous victim of her stalker behaviour for five years.

​@@LyndaHillWhy believe someone you don't know so easily? It's a show. I don't trust her (in her interview), but I have no reason to trust him either. 60/40 70/30... I don't know. Certainly not believing a stranger 100%

Me too i think gadd is gross

Well Laura Walker / Wray. Recognised her from the Netflix series as being her and her ex husband's former stalker!

i thought the same the rapist gets off with it but she gets outed

Yes but “Martha” was easily discoverable and so already outed. It could be argued that Richard chose to expose his mental health issues but she did not.

​@sue.F this is a good point. I watched it a month ago and didn't enter my mind to find out who actors were portraying. Curious about Darrien but the drama just explained Richard's real life position. Since I have thought if someone else played Donny it would make unwell and alleged criminal and transgender people less likely to be targeted (and change the name to Baby Antelope or something(?) as Fiona knows she had a reindeer)

@@crystalaustralia but is “baby reindeer” really unchanged, we only have Fiona’s word on this. What if it’s Baby Dinosaur…

​@@sue.F it is late and I may not be following you. I'm not implying Fiona had a baby reindeer because she said so, only that if she had a baby reindeer and if she has mental health issue, calling the show Baby Reindeer is likely to upset or aggrevate Fiona's symptoms. I think Richard should have a platform but it appears to have made life difficult for a few people

@@crystalaustralia yeah, I know it’s wild - I’m just postulating another take on this. One thing is for certain there will be a sequel, if not just covering the media storm and public interest. Every other RU-vid video is on “Baby Reindeer” some are even offering an opinion while admitting they’ve never watched it. It a cultural phenomenon.

Agree

He has stated on this morning he was interviewed by police. That's pretty odd if not true. Was she arrested? It doesn't appear so and imprisoned.

the information they've got is sent from ipon

Good on her, why not, that's all he's seen also

He wrote, directed and starred in the series. ​@@user-lb2xs4nz6b

She wants a piece of the pie. Stalkers don't like being stalked all called out! She lost it a bit in the interview when Piers asked her if she was in love with Richard. She became very nasty then you can actually see the light bulb moment that she nearly revealed herself! She has so many Facebook profiles & even has a status on one of them, "Reindeer I love you!" She keeps them all updated with the same statuses or similar. I think I counted 7. If she was worried about people looking for her or stalking her, why not lock the profiles or disable them? Her grammar is atrocious! She couldn't have attended university! On some profiles she is single & on others her relationship status is "complicated" not one says that she's in a relationship. She just lies & lies & lies! Whatever her mental issues are she definitely has some narcissistic tendencies. She's obsessive and has a history of doing this. She's a repeat offender. She probably did get a suspended sentence, so didn't spend time in jail or she did serve time & thinks she can lie about that. She lives in her own world. I don't feel sorry for her because people like this don't care how they hurt others. She's dangerous! Just never thought the world would find out. What I'd love to know is if she really has a job. She said Richard didn't have a job & lived off the government but he was working in a bar. She's the one who had all day to follow him around the bar. Bet she's not mentally fit enough to keep a job & she's the one living off the government. I'm not trying to be nasty or take sides, it's just how I see it.

@@user-lb2xs4nz6b You don't think he worked hard writing a book, having Netflix pick it up and be the main star in the series? You think that's a piece of cake? What have you done lately?

@@user-lb2xs4nz6b Oh, and, make the biggest hit on Netflix of all time. Oh yeah, there's that.

Hardly going to admit it though are they ?

Yep agree- without a doubt she stalked Richard, harassed his family, was jealous if his gf...he went through a complete mental breakdown. He is an empath & admits his faults. I watched an online certified psychologist say her actions as a Stalker could be described as Narcissistic with borderline PD. They're highly manipulative, controlling & never cease. They crave constant attention & do not care who they are hurting. They do not believe their actions are abusive & when caught they turn the tables & accuse their victim of all the things they've done.

@@mymai5859 Yet another one who says 'without a doubt' to some pretty serious allegations, so can you please link to the proof (not your opinion mind) where she has for example sent 40k+ emails, or harassed his family, or been in contact with his girlfriend, committed a sexual assault on him beside the canal or admitted guilt in court and then served a 9 month custodial sentence for her behaviour towards him?

Personality disorders. The only mental health issue where the victim has to get the therapy...as even professionals say they can't fix personality disorders.

@@mymai5859 you're mixing up the fantasy Donny with the real Richard, you can't categorically state that 'without a doubt she stalked Richard, harassed his family, was jealous if his gf' because there is no proof of that, it's absolute confirmation bias

You can when considering what she did to Laura Wray and her kid. ​@@scorpiorising7694

agreed

No one can find any proof she went to jail.

Evidence of all of this other than what you have watched on a story DRAMATIZED for Netflix When is Gadd going to come out and prove his claims because so far we only have his word these things actually happened.

"allegedly" went to prison . I believe according to Laura Wray who alleged Fiona Harvey stalked her. There was police / court action. But not jail time.

@@nutcracker2916 What's that case got to do with this one? For all we know he used that case and made their story his. Some of it is true but to what extent? After the impact his story has caused I think it's hight time the public got to see the evidence because people are just believing every word he says.

How do you know all this? You watched a show on Netflix and have seen an interview or two?

Wait till you're lied about too

Yes--"recollections May Vary"

Can you provide proof of any of the accusations that have been levelled against her? Apparently she's pulled the wool over everyone's eyes apart from you of course, please do share the verifiable evidence of the 4000+ emails for example, or the sexual assault at the canal, or what about the harassment of his parents? The custodial sentence she served? In fact anything at all that she hasn't already admitted to will do. Not your opinion mind, actual facts.

@@scorpiorising7694 Where did I say she is actually guilty? You forgot to mention how she is supposed to have glassed him at the pub. My point is too many people are quick to dismiss serious crimes as being a mental illness instead of calling it what it is (wickedness) and yes I do believe she requested the interview with Piers to manipulate the public into believing she is totally innocent and also she probably had $ signs in her eyes. That’s my opinion and that’s what I’ve given so stop being ridiculous and asking for evidence.

​@@scorpiorising76944000. No, over 41,000. You are kidding. You think Netflix don't have the receipts? Don't have stacks of lawyers?

Well said.

@@TheStags1 in your initial post you referred to her as a predator, you also stated she had done a great job of manipulating everyone (except you of course) but you're saying now you never suggested she was guilty? Are you ok? 😂 She has been pursued by the UK gutter press since a day after the series launched and has been bombarded with death threats on social media during this time also. She was also invited on a host of shows to get her side of the story out due to this and as confirmed by Piers Morgan was only paid the standard £250 appearance fee for the interview. I completely understand why you have replied in the manner you did, it's because as both of us are acutely aware, you can't back up your nonsense with any evidence whatsoever, imagine my surprise 😆

I can't work out if she believes she is a lawyer or is aware that she is lying?

Along with her curtains 😭

Curtains.

Not if she keeps threatening him

Why not. That’s part of why it was made it so intriguing, realistic (allegedly)and successful

Do we sacrifice the art - which is considered by the majority to be a bit of a masterpiece- for the safety of a criminal (whilst she still deserves humanity - she is still a criminal- despite the mental health issues)

He wrote the story, directed it and played the role. It is brilliant. Why shouldn't he have done it?

@@LyndaHill because he embellished the truth

@@Roxisound how can you label her a criminal if no charges were laid (according to him) and that she never went to court or spent any time in jail (according to her)

And what she did threatening a family with false abuse?

I was thinking the same thing

Yep, it's disgusting.

No she wasn't convicted of anything in court. Why would you feel the need to push a completely false narrative like that?

@@scorpiorising7694 hmmm seems you are correct, rather than pushing a false narrative I believed the scene in the dramatic series where she is jailed was factual, my mistake.

@@grebo247365 no worries, I think it's a really important point to make when they are billing this as a true story and not based on a true story. In fact Benjamin King, Netflix's senior director in the UK stated the following last week : 'Baby Reindeer is an extraordinary story and it is obviously a true story of the horrific abuse that the writer and protagonist, Richard Gadd, suffered at the hands of a convicted stalker' Note he doesn't mention this as the abuse suffered by the fictional Donny but rather the abuse suffered by the real life Richard Gadd, if they don't have proof of these accusations they will be facing an expensive payout.

Surely if you admit that she never went to prison it's then equally plausible that she never harassed his parents, wasn't guilty of a sexual assault at the canal and didn't send the amount of correspondence he claims also?

That’s the only thing they did wrong in my view . The descriptor should be “ based on a true story “ There is clearly a license taken with some facts However 41,000 emails and 106 letters are very specific numbers and are provable . Also this woman is a known stalker of other individuals who themselves have even sought protection from her . This may indeed be the reason she was so readily identified. I am interested in people’s sympathy for this woman If she were a man would this be the case . I very much doubt so

@@gabrielleandrew542 We were all sympathetic to Johnny Depp when the truth came out and many were sympathetic to Amber heard before the truth came out---I am always sympathetic to whom ever who have been wrongly accused

Why? Is that you Fiona?

Firstly the guy is playing himself and acting out his own trauma including a SA. That alone make it one of the hardest hitting and unique shows ever. There’s the story itself which I understand if u don’t like but another major factor it the fact that we don’t know the truth. Her interview was all over the place. Full of lies but yet there were lies in the series too. It’s literally u folding in front of our eyes, and it’s far from over. I could go on but if u don’t get it u just don’t get it

@@Purpleakiindahouse I beg to differ.

Agreed 💯

@@HiveMind-qv1iy ok go on then. what is it that you are begging to differ You said u don’t get the hype, I explained. so are u saying u suddenly DO get the hype. Not only that but u understand better then the people who like it. I gave you 3 points why people (not you) like it. So I don’t see how you can “beg to differ” that doesn’t make sense 🤦‍♂️

@@Purpleakiindahouse You called it “one of the hardest hitting and unique shows ever” Well mf I beg to differ.

Zip it Fiona

@bandidapromax how ignorant and unintelligent lol. Keep on with your though it will take you no where

Wow. The sheer ignorance in your comment. Amazing.

And rightfully so