She-Hulk Is Not Fine - Cosmonaut Is Just Being Dumb (Featuring Just A Robot) 

We SMASHED this guy.

"I control my anger better because I get cat called and sometimes mansplained to", didn't Bruce have a physically abusive father? This writing is so tone deaf

Probably one of the worst things is how Jenn responds to getting her powers. In the comics she LOVED having powers. As a human she was shy, self concious, had an inferiority complex and basically was a mess. Once she got her power she finally felt confident in herself, was able to appreciate who she was and that she was a genuinely likeable person and most important while she was grateful to Bruce for giving her said powers, she still understood that she lucked out in getting a weaker, more controllable Hulk transformation Bruce would've likely given anything to have and was very understanding and compassionate towards Bruce, always being there to give him a hand, a shoulder to cry on and an ear to listen to. You truly believed they loved each other as family members should, which makes how this Jen acts towards Bruce, not just a slap in the face, but a cement covered fist to the jaw by Mike Tyson. If I was Bruce, I'd have told this Jen to fuck off

That "Hm" from Hulk when She Hulk claims she's better at controlling her anger was beautiful. Probably wasn't meant to but it sounded like he's calling her BS without openly stating it.

I just love how Cosmonaut suggests that She-Hulk is barely antagonistic towards men, when the clip of her calling her suicide survivor cousin who was hunted by the military for a major portion of his life, a b*tch who doesn’t know what struggle even means because he’s a guy, was the clip Marvel used to PROMOTE the show. They used that as their first foot forward. They WANTED people to have the worst moment in the show as their first taste of it.

As a woman I am tired of female characters in media like MCU She-Hulk that crap on men for no good reason. You can have a girl boss that still respects men...Princess Peach did that in The Super Mario Bros. Movie and I appreciated that.

Jenn criticizing heroes with "daddy issues" seems kinda out of left field for me personally. Like so they had a rough upbringing and still managed to become more than the sum of their parts and want to play an active role in helping the world, what is wrong with that? It's something both women and men go through and it sucks for both and isn't the fault of either.

She-Hulk is the most accurate comic show every, is FALSE. 1) Her practice is NYC 2) Her father is a Sheriff and her mother is dead 3) She is friends with most of the hero community. The show she has 1 friend 4) She's a good lawyer. 5) She has a supportive relationship with Bruce. And that is just five differences.

I will concede that She-Hulk is not completely the worst show ever. After all, Velma exists.

Can we just take a moment to appreciate how classy Shady was being in this video by letting his guest star have the limelight in most joke segments? He wrote this and was cool with being the butt of the joke in the closing segment. Pure 100% undiluted class act.

The show lost me the moment Jenn mansplains Hulk powers to Hulk

"I can totally control my anger" she says after nearly killing some guys the night before for catcalling her and being a bit pushy. Later on I'm pretty sure she makes fun or mentions all his trauma in a derogatory way as if the fact that it still effects him is his fault and not because he's deeply scarred by traumatic events and tried to self delete himself. Has her life ever been so bad that she tried that? Nope. She lives a privileged life as a lawyer in an expensive apartment and is somewhat attractive but can't find a guy to date because her writers wrote all the guys to be misogynist or incompetent. Honestly a lot of modern media that's supposed to be for modern feminist audiences are just misandric for the sake of propping up the female lead because they don't know how to show a strong female character without putting down the male characters. The show also clearly disregards plot points that it set up previously, like only very specific people can get Hulk powers due to their specific genetics, and yes they do mention that there's a chance other people can use the blood to get powers but some random guy who-as far as i know-isn't even an established character in Hulk or She-Hulk's roster is not the exception to make. I'm sorry but this show knows nearly nothing about She-Hulk's character and the writers literally said they used their own experiences to come up with ideas for the show. Yeah She-Hulk is a bit of a badass, but she's also kind. She helps others and does her job well without constantly making fun of others. Jen was originally much like her cousin in her Hulk form, being ill-tempered and even violent (although with more self-control). With time, however, she became a fun-loving, kind, empathetic, yet still feisty woman who frequently uses humor when fighting. She's is also known for charitable works related to her own mistakes and actions, such as the disaster relief organization she aided after almost destroying a small town in her savage form. Jennifer has at times become dependent upon her powers, viewing her She-Hulk form as being better and more truthful to who she is than that of Jennifer Walters, and opting to remain transformed as much as possible.

Keep in mind that even Doug, who had a more measured opinion about She-Hulk, straight up admitted that he stopped watching the series because he just couldn't take it.

I think this could be boiled down to one statement: "Just because you like something, doesn't mean that other people are 'stupid' for not liking it"

"People just don't like it because Jen said 'dudes don't rock sometimes'" Jen: *Proceeds to invalidate Bruce's trauma and insult Tony's memory reducing him to a "Billionaire, Narcissist, Adult orphan"* Even ignoring that those are characters people love and are insulted for no other reason than to try and build Jen up by tearing fan favorites down, one of those characters is her own cousin and the other selflessly died to save her and everyone she cares about

"I'm not a super hero and this is a show about lawyers" yes indeed I could totally tell by how poorly the writers understand how the law works

If even Tumblr says it's cringe, you know it's bad.

The only merit to Cosmonaut’s statement of She-Hulk not being the worst show is that Velma exists

its not sexism i just want actual characters with flaws

"Jen looks at the camera and says this isnt a show about superheroes, its about lawyers." In which the show utterly fails at because the writers obviously know nothing about how the law or practicing attorneys work. Id rather watch a show about incompetent superheroes than incompetent lawyers.

It's scary that there is an audience for people like Cosmonaut.

Also what makes it worse is She-Hulk is a likeable character. She's strong, smart, confident and the likely in the comics, but is also compassionate, considerate and even humble at times. She is NOTHING like this wine chugging, work obsessed, ego maniac we're stuck with.

Wait did....they demonise that guy who dated She-Hulk because he has sexual prefferences and wouldn't date someone he's not attracted to ? Am I reading this right ?

"the show focuses on her negative qualities and acts like they're fine" THIS is the problem I have with... almost every show I have a problem with. To have a story, you need rising actions and themes. to have a character that works well with rising tension and themes, they need to have flaws or internal struggles consistent with them. to have an internal struggle, you have to color something they do or think as bad. You inherently HAVE to take a stance on something to write a good story. there is literally no excuse when a show has a character act like a monster and pretend nothing they did was bad but still wants the luxuries of portraying them as a hero protagonist with all the plot protection and victories over immoral enemies or concepts that come with the package. If you want your character to be a bad person but never improve, then write like it. be self aware instead of being so fucked up in the head in real life that you see your evil protagonist as being a good person. then i can TRUST you as the writer to actually take the character somewhere compelling. that's all i ask.

This guy is not reckless with his word choice, he's *MALICIOUS* . For example, he intentionally called people he doesn't like "Vocal minority", it's so he can frame them as being insignificant and crazy.

It was an idiotic take from the guy. I've been a comic book reader since 2003, and no. She hulk isn't like that in the comic books. She's actually very focused on taking care of others. My first introduction to her was civil war Frontline. She was representing speedball and discussing his options.

He's right that it isn't the worst show ever, that dishonor goes to Velma.

I had a dream last night where Cosmo was actually an alternative account for MovieBob. I feel that is worth mentioning.

Cosmonaut is notorious for being annoying. He does bare minimum research ( and is still wrong) and usually tells others how dumb they are.

Okay hear me out Jen: - Gets thrown into a world she isn't familiar with - Suddenly finds out she's special - Gets GIGA OP Powers - Every man finds her attractive - Everyone likes her/hates her in radically emotional blocs - Literally almost never actually received consequences for her actions She-Hulk is an Isekai for white women. That's who this was made for.

I've never read a shehulk comic, but what I've grazed online is actually fairly good. Specifically, hee hulk transformation reveals that its mostly mental. Its a release of your inner self, specifically who you want to be. Apparently Jennifer Walters was one of those women who never felt like a woman. Between no self confidence and no male attention, She-Hulk represented who Jenn wanted to be. I once saw a panel where she was coming down from a proper hulk rage in the woods, and Bruce was there to help. He almost collapsed from guilt, thinking he ruined her life. Even as she was coming down from her rage, she took the time to hug him and tell him he saved her. She loves her life as she-hulk. Plus, this serves to reflect Bruces' mental health that his mind needed an unstoppable rage monster to manifest to 'save him'. I have only caught clips of the show, but they all go against this rambling comment. So this show can eat a cock. Good work guys

Cosmonaut: the starwars prequels suck also cosmonaut:

I remember having to go through a category 4 hurricane and lived in the mandatory evacuation zone while this show was still coming out. The hurricane ended up so bad that not only were the streets flooded, sharks were spotted swimming in the streets. This was infinitely more pleasurable than watching this show.

Cosmonaut saying the Daredevil depiction was how Matt genuinely is makes me wonder if he actually watched the Netflix show. Dude would not sleep with a woman he met a day before. Everyone thinks the sleeping itself is the problem. It's not. It's that Matt has a very distinct character based on a specific moral system, and even if he hooks up with someone (like elektra for instace) it's not done flippantly, nor does it move that fast. Had a perfect opportunity to make Matt different from the guys she hulk normally goes with, justifying why she might pursue him more seriously...and then they didn't.

"Cosmonaut is just being dumb" As somebody who's frequently seen Cosmonaut Variety Hour being dunked on by Mauler and his rotating cast of guests on EFAP, stating that Cosmonaut is "just being dumb" would be an understatement quite frankly.

Cosmonaut is a weasel, that part at 10:01 when he starts to imply that the reason She hulk and Captain marvel are hated is because the protagonist is a woman such a coward tactic. He makes a strawman there and I am supposed to take him seriously? Such dishonest behaviour

There was one joke I found funny in the whole show It’s the one where the villains are talking and the one guy says something like “people assume just because I’m Spanish that I’m also a bullfighter” or something like that, then one of the other guys tries to correct him by saying “I think the term is Hispanic” and he looks at the guy and says “Have you…not heard of Spain?” The way he delivered the line was a lot funnier than if you just read it

It’s funny that everyone complains about that speech but no one ever points out the irony that he was just sitting there with a smile on his face while she was yelling at him that he’ll never be as good at controlling his anger as her.

So after insisting that the show is inoffensive and just says "guys don't rock sometimes" Cosmonaut turns around at 16:15 and admits that the show insults men every episode.

She hulk problems: job sucks as a lawyer, hit on by creeps. Hulk problems: abusive father, hunted by the government, and his lover died. Yup she hulk had it worse

Calling She-Hulk "inoffensive" is the most bizarre thing anyone could ever say. Its probably one of the most offensive things release in recent times. Men hate it because it craps on men, women hate it because its preachy, and NOBODY likes a snarky self-centered main protagonist.

She-Hulk is the furthest thing from FINE I've ever seen in my life. It's poorly written, badly acted, actively insults and hates basically anyone who isn't the arrogant writers and basically torpedos any credibility the MCU had.

It's Cosmonaut. Bad faith is par for the course.

Shady: " Holy *DODONGOS!* " Me: " Dodongos!? But Shady, I ain't got no BOMBS! "

On the catcalling note. As a female that has been cat called quite a fair bit it really doesn't make me angry. Depending on who does it and what their age is then i might be slightly uncomfortable, but not angry. No one ever actually means anything harmful or mean about it, its all a bit lighthearted fun for them or they genuinely think its a complement, and sometimes it is. Trust me, you don't know confidence until you've tried having children shout complements at you (ususlly it's my hair) as you cycle past. (im a teenager btw). But it's also sometimes a bit of fun for you because it gives you a chance to act playfully sassy and be all "oh i know". And for the times it does make you uncomfrtable, that's it. It doesn't make me angry, only uncomfortable, nothing more nothing less, but not enough for me to rant about it to someone or use it as a point like a cretin who doesn't know how to take a joke or know when something is actually a serious matter.

As a woman, I related most to the scene of Bruce pushing Jenn off the cliff.

I love how... reasonable Shady is. I just...I just really appreciate it.

24:19 I'm allowed to not like She-Hulk?! How FREAKING MAGNANIMOUS! Thank you Cosmonaut for ALLOWING me to have my own opinion.

Having been a cosmonaut fan back in the say i can guarantee you that hes the kind of guy that sees people avoid walking on shit on the street, and then deliberately steps on that shit an goes "its not so bad you guys are just dumb and not intellectual like me" He always had to be the guy going against the crowd, he always has to be the underdog

I love She-Hulk. Her original run was fantastic, and when she was a member of the Fantastic Four, it was one of their best runs. This show made me feel nothing but contempt for Jen and the idiots who were brought on to write her.

"I can take someone else having a different opinion than mine, but when that person misrepresents something it kinda feels off", this I always tried to put on words when people defend and review series and recommend as good on everywhere, but I don't care when someone likes something bad in general, everyone has a guilty pleasure but we know it's bad and never know how to say but you made it easier, if you like something shitty cool, if you like something shitty and try to make it look amazing then it's not cool.

15:30 "Because you have to make the She-Hulk show a girl-boss show, or it wouldn't be faithful to the character at all." Putting aside that those same people were very excited about She-Hulk when it was first announced because they loved that character as it was done in the source material, this man is showing a cover from john Byrne's Sensational She-Hulk in which she a goofy fuck-up, with a likable, bubbly personality in the extreme. That's what people wanted, and they were upset because it's NOT what they got. She was constantly being propped up by those around her who took things far more seriously than she did.

I hate to say it, but stuff like this is why I stopped watching Cosmonaut. He has a bad habit of letting his arrogance take over.

Yup, for better adaptations of She-Hulk, check out the 1996 Incredible Hulk animated series and Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes in 2006.

Lmao cosmonaut is probably the type of guy who says he likes cuties just to be contrarian

25:40 And that's the part of his video where I lost my brain cells. And I'm convinced that it's obvious that cosmonaut quickie doesn't know what he is talking about. Daredevil is ruined in so many ways, compared to the Netflix series and the Comics. If someone din't watched the show for a long time or forgot a little bit about the comics, then they would see no problem with it. But if you rewatch the episode with the knowledge of Matt's character, then you will notice that he is totally character assassinated for the sake of the plot of the episode. Like when Jen dropped on those bad guys through the roof with rubble falling on those guys, they are probably dead or severely damaged. After that, she makes fun of the situation. Matt should be freaking out! He would say something like: what are you doing! You almost killed these guys! But no, instead, we get Matt doing one of these 🤦‍♂️..... and it's played for laughs for the audience. Matt would not want to get with Jen. because Electra was killing people, Matt was verry angry with here and Matt wanted to help Electra not kill people, and she is trying not to, and that's why Matt has hope for her that she will do the right thing, and that's the reason that he wants to stay with her. But Jen stays that way, and she din't Change throughout The whole 7 episodes! Cosmonaut Quickie claims that this is Matt in the Comics and the Netflix series, but I say that he totally pulled that one out of his ass! Because even in the comics, Matt killed someone on accident when finding the killer of his father, And he never could forgive himself for what he has done. But hey, if characters are character assassinated for the sake of comedy, then it's no problem, right?.....🫠 (Sigh 😮‍💨😔....)

The saddest thing about the she hulk is that we wanted it to be good. We wanted to see she hulk as a lawyer like in other superhero media. This should have been like Harvey birdman attorney at law every episode, satire comedy and having slapstick comedy while being a lawyer show like law and order. Instead we get single female lawyer

12:19 She says, while getting pissy in front of an extremely calm Hulk. I... did the writers forget the whole "That's my secret Cap, I'm always angry." was turned into a huge meme? That's anger management and a half but lol okay.

(12:09) That's why, I don't know if Mark Ruffalo MEANT this, but Hulk's face when She-Hulk bitches about cat-calling being "worse" than what's he's gone through looks a bit condescending, which would be VERY valid.

13:04 Why can't this guy have a type? If she rejected him for any reason there would be 0 judgment thrown her way why isn't this guy allowed to have preferences? he wasn't rude, he just said he wasn't interested in Jen. But the other female lawyer acts like he went on a rant about how awful she is. Imagine being so narcissistic you're deeply insulted when someone isn't immediately in love with you

I think Cosmonaut hits on the main reason the show is looked down on, it focuses too hard on the people who will never like it rather than a core audience or a concept that is popular. Rather than say why the show is good and what it does well it always comes back to the vocal minority who will never like it, while also ignoring the people who don't want a show about a list of men a female writer doesn't like or might have wanted a more competent female lawyer superhero story if just for 8 episodes.

What makes her diminishing hulks anger is the fact that Ruffalo hulk is the same hulk from the 2008 Tim Norton hulk. So during the blip years between infinity war and endgame him having to answer to "Thunderbolt" Thaddeus Ross the person who like 10-15 years ago in universe tried to murder him is grounds for "HULK" to be out instead of this weird version of Prof. Banner. He is infinitely more restrained then "Not using my super powers on someone who mad a 'microaggression' on me"

I have seen a lot of Cosmonauts videos and have enjoyed them. He seems to have lost the plot on this one. Many people speculated She-Hulk was going to a courtroom centered series. Maybe Jen defending heroes that didn't sign on for the registration act. The showrunners had no idea what to do, so they tried to do a little bit of everything, and they did it as poorly as possible. That head writer from R&M stated she planned to create the series just to "own the haters." She admitted they purposefully sabotaged it. If I ran a studio, I would never hire her because of that.

Cosmonaut is the only guy who will NEVER stop giving L takes!

I understand the grievance of "Reviewers dogpile bad thing and won't let go, bringing far more attention to the product than it calls for" Although he loses that argument by pivoting into an argument of quality beyond "It's not that bad, the biggest backlash is the bandwagon amping up anger" and into "It's not bad, just mundane" when people have made pretty clear arguments with cross reference to comics as to why it's not faithful or very good.

Comparing Cosmonaut and Critical Drinker is honestly insulting. His persona in his videos is a drunkard who craps on lazy mainstream media while cosmonaut is just a disingenuous smart ass. In podcasts you can clearly tell the Drinker has interest and passion for story writing and is very knowledgeable (he is an actual author). Cosmonaut feels like he watched something and then decided to press record and just spew whatever went through his mind.

18:32 I personally miss episodic stories, even if it's only mildly episodic with a underlining story, the less lore I have to shove into my brain means the more relaxed I can be watching I show I'm invested in

I’ve actually met Cosmonaut, I ran into him at a store and he came across like a cool person. He is out of bounds here with some of what he says. I for one, only watched one episode of She Hulk but I watched all of Ms. Marvel. For me it helps that the character and actress playing her don’t across as unlikeable.

I tried my best to give the show the benefit of the doubt because She-Hulk is a cool character. But towards the end i was just....so disapointed with how it turned out. There were a lot of moments for She-Hulk to get learned as a Hulk who didn't wanna be a Hulk. Her freak out towards the end would've been a decent 'gottcha' in response to her saying she has mastered her anger. She had every right to be that angry in that moment but if she's so mastered she would've been able to realize that the 'revenge porn/leaked sex tape' thing wouldn't have hurt her as much now than it would have like 20 or 30 years ago. I dunno where I'm going with this but the show had so much potential but just...hit every thing wrong and the plot points that did get wrapped up just missed the mark so much.

The fact that he tried to act like not caring about being constantly insulted as normal is crazy. It’s actually NOT normal to be ok with such treatment especially if you enjoy it- he needs help

I don’t remember who the writer was, but I remember that there once was a comic someone wrote where She Hulk destroyed a Prison Transport holding someone convicted of Rape (severely injuring the correctional officer driving the transport) just so she could take the convict and bring said convict to the victim he rapped. I think that this is a terrible lesson because not only does it promote “Justice isn’t enough, we need revenge” but also it claims “it’s okay to hurt innocent people to get what you want”.

Arcane is a perfect example of how to make strong female characters. Jinx and Vi aren't amazing characters because they're girl bosses who one up all the guys and succeed at everything they do, they're just WELL WRITTEN CHARACTERS! That's what these companies don't understand when we say we want strong female characters: we don't mean "strong" in a power sense but "strong" in a compelling sense. We want characters we can empathise with and grow attached to who just so happen to also be women.

Holy crap, JAR and Shady together?! YES!

I don't watch much of Cosmonaut's videos, but my god his video was terrible. The problem with a lot of these She Hulk defenders is that they either just straight up accept what the show tells them without any question, or they act like it's perfectly fine to disrespect and be awful to men because awful men exist in real life, not realizing that being biased against someone solely for their gender IS THE LITERAL DEFINITION OF SEXISM. And CM does both. It's not the worst pro She Hulk video I've seen, but it's still an incredibly boring and mediocre video that undersells the flaws of She Hulk in order to either have a contradictory opinion or to berate people who upset the majestic brand. It's so awesome to see you two team up to trash this vid.

I forgot she-hulk existed now my ptsd is back

15:51 Everyone criticizes She-Hulk and how they depict the character but for some reason everyone also loves the Wonder Woman movie when it has the similar flaws?? They both have no arcs and no struggle, no consequences to anything they do, nepo babies when it comes to powers, and have no personality. The only difference imo is that Wonder Woman's movie was actually just revolving around that pilot guy instead of her, because he's the only one who got an actual arc and motivation while she was his manic pixie dream girl with the single voice line of "we need to stop ares" that he could put on a pedestal. She-Hulk felt worse because there was no forefront character to follow like the pilot, it's just the badly written character with no arc or struggle and nothing to distract you from it.

Unlike She-Hulk, here's an example of a well written and LIKABLE strong female character. Samantha carter from Stargate SG1. she doesn't overshadow anyone else in the main cast, but she brings something real and appreciated not only to the social dynamics of the team but the practical stuff too. She's the scientist! The egg-head! the techie! The one to bounce techno-babble around the room with other scientist characters and most of the time she delivers a jab to other characters (who arent villains) it's done in a very "banter between friends" kinda way. She's not the powerhouse, that's Teal'c. She's not the leader, that's Jack (though she is very much second in command), she's not the moral centre sacrificing themselves to save everyone else, that's Daniel. Each have a part to play and none blot out the others. She doesn't push others down so she can stand on top of them, she build herself and others up, and they in turn build themselves and her up in a healthy dynamic. Fuck I love stargate. Likable, well written strong female characters are 100% possible, but the thing is, before her being a strong female character, she needs to be a well written character.

Its not a bad show its inoffensive" Its actually very offensive if your a fan of the She-hulk and a man as they made the char horrible and constantly insulted men.

31:11 I really want to see you cover teen titans go now, as it sometimes seems to do that while also ...being aware of it.

I honestly enjoy videos calling out Cosmonauts bull crap more than I do watching Cosmonauts videos. You guys make a pretty good team

One nice detail about this Collab is that the two's avatars actually react in real time to what the other is saying. Sure, a lot of Collab videos have the occasional joke, but the avatars often ONLY change when that one joke happens, or when that specific person is talking. Seeing Shady look at Robot, only to look at us and then back at him in a double take when Robot is going off is quality stuff. Props to the editors for this vid, and I hope more Collab vids happen!

I respect Shady's voice over chops so much more after this video.

“You guys are just being dumb” that’s when you know you can’t take anyone seriously, when they say shit like that, diminishing your valid criticisms to just “being dumb”

Cosmonaut is not someone known for making good takes. He made a Jojo review where he shit on the manga but only showed stuff from the show, lied, admitted that he read the whole series in a few days (it's long as hell), and was just flat out wrong at times

Its pretty ironic that she hulk premiered the same week (or month) that better call saul ended We lost a great lawyer show for a bad lawyer show

"It's not for everybody" Chainsaw man is a pretty good example of that while it's fairly popular it sells less than the fellow stories it's published with and is pretty niche as a series.

Weird thing is most comic book fans actually like Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) they just didn't care for the movie.

Fell out of love with Cosmonaut a while ago. Videos like this were why

She-Hulk is literally one of my all time favorite comic book characters and I was really looking forward to a She-Hulk lawyer show. I was really disappointed with how the show turned out.

She-Hulk to me was a series that didn't know what it wanted to be. It tired to be everything. It should have focused on either being a mostly serious story that took place over the season, or a monster (client) of the week comedy. A focus alone most likely would have made it better.

1:26 I actually heard that Jessica Gao didn't know anything about the comics or the law, so she was completely unqualified to write a superhuman legal comedy.

Cosmonaut is a contrarian. I learned that a while ago. Whatever people complains about, he goes the other way. Once you see the pattern, it becomes obvious, it's like a kid screaming "look at me, i think differently of everyone!"

I don’t think I’ve ever watched a show that had a bad trailer but then the first episode ended up being worse than said trailer and then proceeded to get worse and worse with every episode

He says "I liked not knowing who was going to show up." Every single cameo was shown in the trailers before the series began.

She-Hulk deserves so much better than this puddle-deep writing. Jen's supposed to be a loser; a booksmart, physically unassuming lawyer with little self-confidence. Guys aren’t interested in her and she doesn’t have friends. Then she becomes She-Hulk, this sexy, powerful, popular, funny version of herself. Where Bruce sees the Hulk as a curse, Jen sees She-Hulk as a blessing. If Hulk is the embodiment of anger, She-Hulk is the embodiment of self-esteem. Bruce wants to cure himself of the Hulk and stop transforming. Jen lives her day-to-day life as She-Hulk often refusing to transform back. She’s not only battling super villains but also her own confidence and self-worth. The show doesn't explore any of this because she has to be a girlboss. She can only do right and they insert a supporting cast whose entire role is to call her awesome. She has no motivations, no personal struggles, no flaws, no character development, she's just the self-insert power fantasy of a weak writer.

I've said this elsewhere on RU-vid. Kim Possible, a Disney show, did what we call the "Girl Boss" correctly. And why? Because she isn't a shitty person who dumps on men. She's a genuinely kind-hearted person. She's a team player, not a glory hog. Kim just was inspiring to see. We all enjoyed that and other shows like it in the 2000s. Hell, many of us suburban white boys enjoyed Static Shock too. In fact, I'll say this. The protagonists of current shows would've been the villains in the 2000s. I can see Ebon and the Meta Breed (static's main villains) getting into things like BLM, Antifa, Critical Race Theory, and Reparations, all to bully people, encourage crime, divide communities, and swindle supporters. I know Static wouldn't support these things, and neither his dad who was a pinnacle of communal strength in my opinion. I am assured that 2000s media was of far greater quality than what we have today. Cosmonaut is basically saying you're a crybaby if you won't let yourself get berated or insulted. Well, something tells me he's the type who'll turn around and make death threats when he sees something he doesn't like.

I am a gamer, I'm a guy, and I like strong/powerful/lead women. I'm tired of being crapped on for not enjoying bad writing.

As an actual fan of the She-Hulk comics and a person who has collected the line for a while I'm willing to put forth my opinion. This is not a faithful adaptation of She-Hulk. The vast majority of the points are an antithesis to She-Hulk. At least the one that's represented in the comics. I don't know what they think they adapted. That's so perfect. First of all, her origin story was much more epic. Jennifer was going after the mob as a lawyer trying to take them down. They ended up shooting her. Her cousin Bruce was the only person around with a blood type similar to hers. He didn't like it but it was the only way to save her life. So he gave her a transfusion voluntarily of his own free will trying to save her life. That's the first point where they screwed up her first transformation was in the hospital bed. When some goons came in to finish the job, she turned into She-Hulk and kicked their collective butts. When she saw her cousin Bruce again he apologized over and over for this curse that he put upon her. She calmed her cousin down and told him she was grateful for the new power she had that she loved her new self. Then she said words antithetical to everything this actual piece of maggot ridden swine excrement held the character up to. Jen said I will never be a victim again. She was strong in character and in purpose. There are some things that they got right. Jen had control of her mind almost immediately. That is completely comic accurate. Also, that whole yoga pose thing is technically comic accurate as well. She hulk has always been more agile than the hulk as well as the fact that she was good at self-control hulk's advantage over hers that he was stronger and more durable. It is my personal opinion, although this is not completely backed up that Jen is a better fighter in terms of raw skill because she needed to be to deal with individuals that had more raw strength. Hulk with most of the time just swing haymakers because that worked. I know that there were some books called The Savage She-Hulk where her mind denigrated but I do not know of any references where she had the special ability that Bruce did where the matter she got the stronger she got. Although it may be in there at some point. I do have some parts of the history that I have not collected. In the point where he threw a rock and then she threw a rock and it was further. He did the basic motion of putting up a shot like a basketball and she heaved it like a shot put. Of course the boulder she threw went further. She put at least five times as much effort into it. Jennifer didn't denigrate Bruce. She loved her cousin. About the only people she did denigrate were actual villains although there was the occasional creep. Jennifer, love to flirt and show herself off though there were limits. Jennifer was an amazing lawyer and eventually got to the point where she became a judge. In the comics, Jennifer did break the fourth wall. This was an ability that actually was given to her by the person in charge of the book. There was even one time where the head author called into Jen and said asked her to make the book herself cuz she was sick. Jennifer was a happy nuanced amazing character with an excellent sense of humor and a love of people, not just some people. Calling that imposter a true adaptation of she hulk is an insult to a real strong female character.

Cough bullshit Cough 11:45 no it’s not “dudes sometimes don’t rock! Sometimes ” It’s more like “dudes don’t rock! everytime all the time”

this was really fun to watch and actually informative, I'd like to see more in future but seeing their points or the lack there of, i hope the next one will have better ones