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I remember people memeing about the kid being the Reverse Flash to Gavin's "Flash" and it was fun. I think the kid even changed his twitter profile pic to one of Thawne
@@Montesama314to be fair, what happened to Jason was just a little bit more complex than simply being "mistreated by Batman" but I'm sure you know that.
Say what you want about TASM2, but the one 15 second cut of Peter in front of Gwen's grave over the course of the seasons has more nuance, maturity and subtlety in handling her death than this entire two hour fan film.
Even that hilariously bad "action" scene at the end with Paul Giamati Rhino is leaps and bounds anything we see in this p.o.s... There they at least stay true to Peter's character: we see that, even though he's downright devastated with grief, he still has time to save a child and tell him a few kind words. In Lotus...he uses inocent by-standers as human shields...'nuff said...
Not trying to defend the film, but they weren't innocent bystanders. They were other goons. Peter would still not sacrifice them, but it's not the same as "innocent"@@madsgrams2069
It also does "Spider-Man having a friendship with a child" much better than this train wreck (yes I know it isn't the same since the child isn't dying but there are similarities), and it probably isn't the best sign when TASM2 is better than this fan film in every conceivable way.
This is one of the only fair circumstance to use the victim card. When a child says "I was treated unfairly" and she doesn't have dramatic/overbearing parents, or is a liar...
turns out, its really hard to make a movie, its ok to critacise films but the fact films even get made (proabbly the same with games) is staggering. like 100 people doing their best work and knowing what everone else wants. locations the right actors lighting, its kinda crazy.
Yeah, way more accurate to the character than ''MR STARK MADE ME THIS SUIT THIS IS AWESOME WOW THANK YOU MR STARK''. MCU stans, us Spider-Man fans... Yeah, we don't like you. Then again, no self-respecting Marvel Comics fan is ever gonna like an MCU fan.
The problem with hardcore Spider-Man fans is that their love for watching Spider-Man struggles has devolved into a fetishization of his pain in stories. Therefore, they think that if a story primarily focuses on his pain and sacrifices is the peak of his character. It’s not. What’s so compelling about the character is that despite his pain, he still stays dedicated, kind and good.
Most Spider-man stories are set in-between Spider-Man's painful life events. The problem with movies is that they have to compress decades of loss into 2 hour movies. Spider-Man is usually a pretty upbeat guy with occasional trauma, but he's not Batman. Even as an adult he is still a fairly positive guy.
Two things one: somebody please send this comment to Nick Lowe and Zeb Wells. Keep in mind I am the guy who started a petition on Change.0rg (I had to replace the o with a 0 because RU-vid doesn't allow external links) to undo One More Day. And two: There is a good reason every single version of the story where Peter stops being Spider-Man, has him back to being Spider-Man, it is because of what you just described, that despite his pain, he still stays dedicated, kind, and good. If he was a character that was solely focused on his pain he wouldn't become Spider-Man again (in any version of the story) because there is only so much pain that one person can endure. I bring this up because while the filmmakers of Spider-Man Locus may like Spider-Man 2 that certainly doesn't mean they understand it at all.
That's why I find Spiderverse's Peter B. Parker super interesting. He has his lows and he starts the saga in his lowest point of his life but he is still kind and a good person. Seeing a Spiderman with a kid and happily married is super refreshing
@@FeatherSnake007still inconsolable over the fact that Mysterio and Harry basically got his dad high as balls and punked him into giving Mysterio backshots
Flashpoint literally Flashpoint literally Flashpoint. Do people working on Flash media know there are more stories to him than just Flashpoint? Like he isn't just the multiverse/convenient reset character.
Wouldn't really know. Aside from manga my comic book consumption mainly consists of Donald Duck and European stuff, so I haven't really ran into that nonesense. (Edit) Oh, also Calvin & Hobbes and Peanuts.
Seeing Spiderman go "I can't do this!" and freak out /trauma dump at what is basically a make-a-wish event is so funny to me. That is literally something I would expect to see on robot chicken.
In terms of depicting how Spider-Man deals with death, Marvel's Spider-Man PS4 has always hit home for me. I may be biased, since it came to me shortly after the passing of a loved one, but Peter's line, "Do what you think is right, even if it hurts like hell," followed by his final interaction, "I don't know what to do." "Yes, you do", with Aunt May before having to let her die has always been one of my favorite depictions of Peter's character. He knows what's right, and will put himself through hell and back to do it.
I think what was wanted was more of a TASM 2 taking a bit more extreme than the more usual way Peter deals with it. I wouldn't even say how TASM2 does it is rather standard Peter it's really not it's trying to be different which is why I always liked TASM more than Raimi Spiderman, usual comic Spiderman ect.
A few notes on the depiction of Spider-Man here just like from a writing perspective 1. Spider-Man is def the type of character who when faced with grief internalizes it and blames himself, not someone who lashes out at everyone around him. He takes responsibility even when its not his fault, thats the whole idea 2. When it comes to the kid he would, without question, try to be normal and quippy and stuff but without putting his heart in it and when it gets too much to take, like the kid asks too many things or brings up too many bad memories, he would either excuse himself or just bounce when he's not looking. He'd beat himself up over that decision later, but thats what he'd do. 3. Peter ain't cool. He's got a good social circle and I could see people being amazed that he gets the attention of a few popular girls, but I don't think folk would naturally find themselves being jealous of him or wishing they had what he had. Frankly the most accurate version of showing Peter hanging out with his friends would be like him DMing a DND session at his house with like at most Harry, MJ, and whatever the extremely nerdy friend du jour is. The reason Peter has charisma is because he has a mask to hide behind, in his day to day life people probably just see him as a quiet geeky kid. Also just like general notes is because people process grief in different ways it would be good to show that? Like MJ would probably be very openly sad, Harry would probably get mad, and Peter would probably wall himself off. Play in that space and see how these three different coping methods interact and intersect with one another and the strain it puts on their relationship and for gods sake show us what normal looks like before then
alot of this sort of changed and was altered in like TASM which is you having the more Outward expression of grief which is more relatable these days than totally internalized(Symbiote was important cause it actually externalized his internal feelings), also Peter I like more when he came off as a loner in TASM just going through the motions than like the nerd but yeah this is definitely not the traditional Peter Parker but yk I like TASM's rendition more also in TNAS Peter was a bit cooler iirc
MJ would likely wall it off like Peter unless she was at a breaking point. A major reason they were drew to each other is because they both spent their youth hiding behind masks.
Wow!! thanks Stan Lee !! Or the other creator of spider-man!!! I’m so glad you came back from death to let us know the 100% facts that only you GuYs know
@@pockysucks At least that line actually makes sense when you look at the entire sentence in context. It's "People die when they are killed, that's how it's supposed to be." The line was said by a character who was killed and brought back to life. He's in shock that such a thing is possible and is trying to figure out why he wasn't dead. The line in Spider-man Lotus just sounds like a first draft that never got revised
@@woodhawk109I mean, I got an entire meme folder of dumb phrases. That left hand isn't a right hand. The berserker is berserk. For ages, dragon slayers were known as killers of dragons. The future just means it hasn't happened yet. The pot calling the kettle black is because of something that doesn't involve race. The archer class is made up of archers then? To an ant, you look like a very large giant- unless you're ant-sized already. I'll kill you in a way that keeps you alive before you die. Die before you're killed. I wouldn't die even if I was killed. And my personal favorite: "what do you mean I can't kill him because he died???" told absolutely without irony or even context having it make sense. I just think sometimes people think of cool shit in the shower, write it down, and no one bothers to consider it later in the day. .... And yes, most of those examples are from something in the fate franchise. Probably coincidence... Cough...
Ive never watched buffy before but your segment struck me so hard. I lost my mom in 2020 and her delusions of them saving her mother and everything fixing itself is the most realistic bit of grieving ive seen in tv.
Decent special effects, bad lighting, needlessly pissed off actors, terrible people behind the camera... I think this guy has a future making Netflix movies!
I would say blame the gjk on the cameras, as ya know, he fuckin okayed the shitty ass lighting because he’s a shit director, but tbf I don’t know that much on this stuff just watched a few videos on this movie lol, and I believe that blaming the dumbass, in charge of the project who okayed the visuals is better than blaming the ppl who just wanted to get paid.
The first time it happened I thought the movie was buffering when it faded to black in a transition, it just lasted so long, followed by pointless establishing shots
In my opinion, being comic accurate should be about taking the original spirit and aesthetic of your chosen era of comics and then using them to tell an original story. Too many fans think that comic accuracy should be about ripping whole stories out of the comics and then just doing a panel-for-panel remake.
For someone who claims to love Spider-Man 2 so much, you can tell he never got Spider-Man 2. That film was made with heart and love. A movie made from spite could never capture that
I once had to write a 6 page paper about a certain kind of cheese in culinary school and could only find half a page of info. This review has that same energy 😂. Well done.
Last year my family dealt with a tragedy basically the same as in Buffy. The feelings were spot on. Especially the cold routine of the paramedics. Never knew that episode even existed and certainly didn't expect it in a Spiderman Lotus review. Talk about emotional whiplash
This wasn’t with a human family member, but I remember something similar happening with a dog we had just before my junior year of high school began. I specifically remember her running up to the door to greet us as she always did, and how I walked past her to drop something off at my room, not giving her much thought, and not knowing that the last time I would see HER had already passed. It’s fucking awful when that type of thing just blindsides you out of nowhere. I’m sorry for your loss.
It always bugged me when people complained that MCU spider man was so different. That felt like the point. This was spider man if he was iron man's apprentice. Not in a bad way just a new way. Why does every version of spider man have to be normal spider man?? Why not explore different versions of the character and see how differently they develop?
Exactly. I'm a huge spiderman fan and was totally open to the mcu interpretation and think tom Holland has done a brilliant job playing a peter parker who fits into the wider marvel cinematic universe
Not "Iron Man's apprentice", he used it as a springboard, just like his F4 debut. People just infanticide for being the first young Spider-Man on screen and we all bought it ourselves.
it's funny when they complain if something is not comic accurate. Comics where there are numerous different versions of each character. varying from almost identical from the rest to completely different character identical in name only.
That Buffy the vampire slayer “The Body” sidebar in the video is so beautifully put together to explain how grief can be portrayed in a realistic way is sublime! Kudos my guy ❤
I actually got so invested in Marcus' analysis of 'The Body' that I forgot it was in the middle of Spider-Man Lotus... What a harsh snap back to reality that was.
I remember emailing Gavin about what it's like being a film director for a college essay and he told me how "it's important to stay humble and not get carried away with all the power" he really should have taken his own words to heart💀
Man, just hearing you describe The Body reminded me of how I found my own mothers body. That empty feeling at her not being there, the dread thinking about how my family will go on, not looking at where the paramedics are trying to resuscitate her. I don’t think I’ll watch that episode, or the rest of Buffy, but I don’t think I’ll need to. Not the feel’s I thought I’d get from a spider man video
lol. It blows my mind that people who think and act that way actually exist… but hey there’s everyone out there.. Even gross sick violent gore torture loving killers… the internet shows it all. It really is mind blowing but the thing that is crazier is just how many..even countries full of weird sickos who are cringe
As a person named Gavin who also enjoys Spider-Man and wanted to one day make or work on something Spider-Man related, this whole situation feels like the darkest timeline of that
Movies like this really go to show that being loyal to the source material doesn’t mean squat if you can’t back it up with good performances, writing, camerawork and editing
they WEREN't even loyal to the source material tho that's the worst part lmao, all this just to have spidey kill civilians in his first action scene im baffled
Man, as a Buffy fan, the emotional whiplash you inflicted on me by going from one of the best episodes in the entire series to one of the worst with "Buffy want beer" should be considered assault. I had to pause and take a step away after that
11:09 Peter isn’t supposed to be a sarcastic bully, he’s supposed to be cheesy “It’s my shocker suit.” “I got a shocker for you. The next suit you’ll be wearing is a prison jumpsuit.”
Your breakdown of Buffy in this video is so underrated. I have watched your content for almost 5 years now and I like it, but seriously that section is your best work hands down. You portrayed it perfectly and without any comedy or jokes, just you talking about what works in Buddy and I have to give it to you, that was absolutely beautiful.
The fact that the director really shit talked his actors in a group chat, putting the blame all on them instead of his amateur directing skills is crazy. No one will ever wanna work with this guy. I can only imagine the notes he gave them and how rehearsals went. If there even were rehearsals…
It reeks of a bloated ego, this kid had way to many yes men in his corner claiming he was genius when it comes to Spider-Man etc. I really hope all the negative backlash gives him a reality check.
From what I watched before I got bored, it looked like they only shot a couple of takes. I believe the director knew what he wanted, but didn’t take the time to flesh anything out. Or didn’t know how.
Wizards will say: "My apprentice is severely lacking in the arcane arts"... my brother is wizardly wonders, you taught him how to cast!@@tuckermayatt2705
@@DHynes5 it's more about everyone to be honest, like while miguel says spider-man has to suffer, team miles thinks that they should be allowed to be happy
They really wrote in a scene in which a high school bully professes his unrequited admiration for his victim like he was asking someone out, and thought we wouldn't notice huh? I wonder if the writer's bully has seen it.
First responder for seven years. Been to many houses for “The Body” calls. I can confirm most of the time the way Buffy acted from start to finish is 100% accurate.
Yeah as someone who has been through something like that I kinda had to start skipping through some of that. It felt way too real and started giving me flashbacks. I commend the director, writers, and Sarah Michelle Gellar for creating such a powerful, impactful, and accurate scene but I don't think I could ever watch that in it's entirety myself.
Spider-Man Lotus has really shown how unhealthy a lot of fans are in terms of engaging with Spider-Man media. It's perfectly fine to not like the MCU Spider-Man films (or any Spider-Man adaptation, for that matter), but when that hatred is used as fuel to make a movie to spite something you don't personally like, then it no longer feels sincere or honest. A fan-made piece of media should feel like a labor of love, not a way to one-up random RU-vidrs and directors.
This might be an unpopular opinion but I feel it's very similar to the current spider man comics today. whether its amazing spider man randomly killing off ms marvel or fans being overly toxic over the fact that MJ isn't into Peter anymore, it's not great
Yea, like u said it’s very indicative of the toxic relationship Spider-Man fans have with the character and it seems like they just want to him to be a depressed little shit the whole time. It also goes to show that fan opinions should be taken with a grain of salt (most of the time) because some guy typing behind a screen 9/10 knows nothing about what he’s criticizing, and should have no say in the direction a project should go.
It's one of the reason many writers don't want to write for Spider-man, even Chip Zdarsky who wrote one of the best modern Spider-man stories would rather write him guest appearing in Daredevil than a full book
I recently rewatched Buffy and I knew The Body was coming but this rewatch occurred a couple years after losing my Dad. It broke me in a way it didn’t before, because it captured that feeling of hopelessness and how the world continues with its mundane things like people getting a parking ticket, having to clean something up or your favourite top going missing. But you’re trying come to terms with this huge thing and it feels like the world doesn’t acknowledge it. My only criticism of the episode was it was the first on screen kiss for Willow and Tara and I wish that it hadn’t been a part of an episode dealing with loss
My god that closing statement of “you should not produce your dream project as your first project” was something I’ve needed to hear. For so long I’ve been wanting to start a career in film and I’ve wanted to do it by producing my dream project to showcase my vision at its purest, but your this video and it’s conclusion have helped me see that is not the path I should start on. Thank you, I needed to hear that so badly.
Same here, I’ve had this idea for a Top Gun-like sci-fi adventure called Aviation. I’ve always envisioned it either being a live action blockbuster or an animated film but I’d have to be at least a level 15 filmmaker with at least several projects behind me to even consider funding it. When Marcus brought up dream projects, my mind went to Tick, Tick… Boom!, a project that was created in the wake of failure. Jonathan Larson (best known for the musical Rent) created Tick, Tick… Boom! after slaving for 8 years trying to get his dystopian show Superbia off the ground. The show is all about how over-ambition can cast shadows over friendships, love, creativity, confidence, and everyday responsibilities. This is the pit that can strain any artist from reaching their full potential and hearing Marcus affirm this reminded me why he’s among my top 5 creators.
Really, there is a reason why Star Wars wasn't the first film George Lucas ever made, or The Godfather wasn't the first film that Francis Ford Coppola made, or Lord of the Rings wasn't the first thing Peter Jackson ever made, and so on and so forth. If you have a dream project and if you have the chance to make it, absolutely go for it! But you should get your feet wet with other projects first, or else you might just end up like Gavin here.
I feel that man, I'm in a similar boat as you where I would love to get a feature up and going, but I'm definitely not there yet. Best thing I'm trying to do is make short films and fun lil passion projects
one of my friends and i got drunk and watched it about a week ago, and they said something along the lines of "if people donated $1k more it would've been 30 minutes longer" and i completely believe and agree with them. such a self indulgent film that doesnt know when to stop
I mean idk what we expected from a director who "wanted to expose the big budget version of this character's glaring flaws and give people the film they REALLY want 😤"
I really appreciate you including the part from Buffy. I was literally crying the entire time, and while writing this. What a good episode. I was not expecting that. The rest of your vid was moot compared to this. So beautiful. I'm not even going to mention the name of the rest of your vid in respect to how good that episode was
The most fascinating and hilarious part of this otherwise shitshow of a story is that some guy was wronged by Gavin and played the long game to defeat his nemesis. Matt is an actual comic book character and I love it.
The greatest achievement that Gavin will get is that his movie, which was meant to show everyone in the MCU how it's done, has its own video in the Worst Superhero Movies Ever Made series.
Ikr I am so tired of the stigma people have thinking that “they know better” whenever a franchise releases something they don’t like. If making movies/shows was really as simple as just watching a lot of movies & liking a franchise everyone would be a director without needing to go to College to be qualified.
@@noname-hf9tyPretty much they absolutely despised TROS even though that whole film was basically made by Starwars fans who also think that “they know better”. & tried it’s best to act like TLJ never happened which isn’t a “true Starwars film” apparently.
@@noname-hf9typretty sure prequel fans always liked the prequels. but i get what you mean, this made me appreciate MCU Spider-Man way more and i barely like that iteration
Say what you want about the MCU but at least Tom Hollands Spider-Man had a consistent story about determination, legacy, and just a Peter Parker who doesn’t give up despite his strange circumstances, not a shallow, mellow dramatic Peter Parker who’s such a self pity party that it gets annoying.
The best part was "The Body" segment, I've never even heard of the BTVS show and didn't know of its existence, however your description of the episode really moved me as someone who has gone trough a similar experience, they did an amazing job capturing the grief and emptyness after a loved one dies, like, I can tell that only someone who experienced that could portray it so accurately. Even though I would like to watch the episode I feel like I would crumble into pieces if I tried to do so, I'm not ready and I'm not sure I ever will. Great video man, who would have thought a review of spiderman lotus would have me in tears. (Also excuse me if I made any mistakes in my grammar, english is not my main language lol)
you should absolutely give BTVS a shot. it’s my favourite show of all time and its depictions of real-life struggles using supernatural elements inspired so many other tv shows. highly recommend!
It honestly reminds me of Bill Hadar's writing advice. If someone says something feels wrong about your story, they're probably right, there might be something off. Then, whatever they say they would do instead, it's 100% going to be awful. Take the criticism, but ignore the advice. Lotus seems like ultimate proof of this considering why this movie was made.
Heh. I just saw that a snippet of that video--an interview?--like a week or two ago, and yeah, that basically came to mind as soon as Marcus explained why he hates fans and fan works. I don't think they're all universally bad, but...yeah. Something made from a sense of an entitlement that probably still misses the point while also probably making new (and maybe worse) mistakes is bound to be bad and not even in an entertaining way.
I don't 100% agree with Marcus on fan works. I think a lot of fan games can be absolutely fantastic, like Another Metroid 2 Remake or Black Mesa. That said, he is right that a lot of fans feel they can do better, but just saying "I would do this" is probably the easiest thing in the world compared to actually doing it.
@@JMenitta Yeah, I can agree that fan games are tend to be more exempt from his particular criticism when it comes to fan works. Maybe it's because they mostluly occupy an odd middleground where not just anyone can crap them out for free like fan-fics, which can also be fine of course but have *a lot* of drivel. Still, between coding and other issues, it tends to require genuine passion and drive while still not also tending to balloon into being *as* resource-intensive as some fan films can get, at least the ones that to tend too become big and then need to essentially scam people like some bigger fan films do. The latter is maybe also why a lot of the notable crappier video games were (or still are) Kickstarter ones, which is why it earned its bad reputation that still somewhat clings to it. Now I wonder if he's said anything about liking _Sonic Mania_ given I would personally count that as a fan game that's better than most of the things that SEGA has done recently ironically. (Though part of that is admittedly just SEGA refusing to learn from its own mistakes as ever.)
@@MusicoftheDamned Except Sonic Mania isn't a fan game, it started out as one and had some fans in the lead, but it had 3 studios involved to produce it on release Sonic and the Fallen Star, and Triple Trouble 16-bit are the ones that were 100% fan made
@@ayrtonjoga I had meant that it started as a fan game, but, yes, that's fair since it's also obviously official, meaning SEGA did take it over at some point (and thankfully didn't ruin it with their tendency to be their own worst enemy).
The worst part is there’s a fan film from 1992 that’s actually good and actually impressive that blows this movie out of the water. It’s called The Green Goblins Last Stand and I’d highly recommend checking it out. There’s a documentary about it as well that I watched on TV years ago and I’d recommend that too.
Here's a few things that would make it a better story. Peter is still sad over Gwen's death BUT he has to still do spider-man duties. Fighting super villains like Shocker, Vulture and so on. As movie progress Peter's relationship with his friends decline and he's getting mentally and physically exhausted. Peter is about to give everything up but MJ sends him a message and we as the audiences don't see it. Sick kid scece happens and Peter is ready to be Spider-man still and MJ herself helps Peter with sadness over Gwen's death. Both Peter and Spider-man are getting saved by two different people. Plus Harry and Rhino have 30 minutes long sex scene. Perfect movie.
I just can't believe their "terminally ill" child looks so good. Like, no IVs, no loss of hair to easily shoe cancer, not even someone who's a little thin. Hilarious.
Right? If it did it like in the comics where the reveal was after, I'd think "Okay, it was most likely to hide the fact that the kid is sick, sloppy but understandable", but revealing it before the scene just completely does away with that excuse.
Fun fact about The Body Thats Willow and Terra's first kiss on screen. A lesbian kiss was such a radical idea, that the only way they could make it not the point was to sneak it in. One of the only moments of real warmth and affection in the whole episode. Its so easy to forget it was the first because it feels so normal
How can anybody write a so called "comic accurate Peter Parker" and have him give a genuinely scathing, angry speech about how horrible of a person MJ is in front of Gwen's grave? Fuck, never listen to "Sam Raimi's Spider Man 2 is the best one" fanatics man.
You know, that part where Cosmonaut said that "young film students don't know how to cut stuff from their films" actually spoke to me, when I was in college I had a classmate that was told to cut some stuff out of her short and she said that she didn't know what to cut out when her short was like 44 MINUTES LONG, lmfao
It’s the classic advice given to writers “kill your darlings”. You’re going to have a bunch of ideas for stories, characters, settings, themes, etc. But even if they’re good. If you turn a book that should only realistically be 300 pages, into almost 1,000 pages. Or a short film that should only really be 10 minutes, into 90 minutes. Then it doesn’t matter how good those ideas are. It’ll be a complete mess of pacing, tonal shifts, and plot threads. Save those ideas for different works, and kill them in the works where they don’t need to be in.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Haha, true but the issue with hers was that she had a lot of dead space and pacing issues, there were scenes that draaaged ooooon for longer that they should've
And not only cutting out whole scenes that don't add anything and mess with the pacing. Just by re-editing all the scenes, one by one, in way they flow better does wonders to the final product. Usually you can trim out 20% of you assembled originally.
I gotta say that the Buffy segment was unironically extremely well written and edited. It felt like how I imagine it felt in the show; an abrupt and jarring change in atmosphere that just sticks with you, after all the jokes that came before it. Great work!
buffy going out the back door and hearing the world around her is when the episode got me. Just the sound of the world continuing on, like everything is normal - everyone who has lost someone close to them has had that moment. The moment of realizing that the universe doesn't give a rat's ass that this is the worst day of your life
Years ago my family lost a cousin in a car wreck. We were devastated and I actually ran outside in the backyard and pounded the ground yelling. I think about that day a lot and it just feels so unreal.
it was such a pleasant surprise for you to bring up that buffy episode, buffy is one of my favorite shows but that episode specifically has stuck with me all these years, i think about it all the time.
Lighting seems to be the hardest thing to get right in micro budget movie. It’s straight up what makes a movie seems like a POS or a real motion picture
@@user-gw3bs2in5i I worked on those too and at some point everyone on the crew kinda goes "It is what it is" 😅. I've DP:d and assisted DP:s on such projects and we all kinda know the ideal way of doing it but the ideal way is to expensive and time consuming.
Yeah. So how did a multi-million dollar production like the MCU manage to have the most blandest, lamest looking Spider-Man movies in existence? Even Marc Webb's piss-poor movies had some decent look to them.
@@antona.1327still looked like an actual movie with legitimate lightening. You know the thing that was being discussed, not the aesthetic design of the cinematography or production design.
I've never watched this show because A. It's older than me and B. I've never heard of it in Europe, but it looks like it has queer representation with (I assume) Buffy and another girl??? In the 90s ? What wizardry is this
Somehow, I didn’t know anything about Spider Man Lotus when it came out, so this video was the first of me hearing anything. Also, What a beautiful analysis of that episode of Bucky the Vampire Slayer. Absolutely made me cry. Thank you.
What I don't like about Spider-Man trauma dumping on a dying child is that despite how much Gavin says he wanted the movie to be comic accurate, Spider-Man giving up is not Spider-Man. Spider-Man ALWAYS gets back up. That's the point of his character. He loses friends, family, jobs, and everything, but he always keeps going. Because he knows that there are people who need him.
THANK YOU! THIS IS WHY PEOPLE LOVE SPIDER-MAN!!!! Not because he’s sad and has bad things happen to him, but because he overcomes it and gets back up. The fact that Gavin and many specific “fans” missed that entirely annoys me.
I really don't get the mentality some fans have where if it's dark it's better by default. (Majora's mask or certain Pokemon fan games for example) it just seems so devaluing to reduce a story of good and evil to only the evil.
I would say that’s true for the most part, but there are exceptions to this. For example, Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated (the new RU-vid series, not the one that aired on Cartoon Network) is a passion project that has a darker take on Scooby-Doo and it’s a million times better than that Velma show. You can tell the people behind the series know the source material and respect it. Granted, the series only has one episode right now because it was released last year, but I highly recommend watching it if you love Scooby-Doo.
You can tell the people involved in this project were the the type of people to feel real good about themselves for liking TASM because it was slightly edgier than most superhero movies so they’re automatically elevated pieces of cinema
25:58 this was my exact comeplaint with Snyder's Batman. The audience is SUPPOSED to be shocked rhat Batman has becomed so hardened and even now uses guns, but he never showed us that his Batman was ever against such things.
"Years of listening to fans being wrong about everything, all of the time, has built a natural resentment for fan created work" Thank you for managing to give words to this feeling.
Hopefully stuff like this or that awful Vader fan film never getting off the ground or the Sonic Omens controversy finally put the idea that fans inherently make better media than official productions to bed. Those communities are especially bad with that "hire fans mentality" despite them having nothing of value to show for it, the Pokemon, DBZ and RWBY communities also have these problems from my experience lurking in those fandoms.
@@lildominator2953 They were saying they've noticed that problem in communities *they* lurk in, not that the hire fans people are lurking. I think we can all agree they never, EVER lurk quietly 😂
This movie's writing is the perfect encapsulation of claiming to love comics but having no media literacy. It reminds me of the people who read Watchmen and think Rorschach is a/the good guy.
we love Rorschach though, I think you would agree it's never been the "most authentic representation" or "what the authors wanted to convey" It's always been who is most relatable to someone and alot of times the more emotionally afflicted characters are getting alot of attention especially ones who have an axe to grind for something like Rorschach had Another example was Anakin and how he was hated by older OT fans cause he was moody, emotional ect ect but that's why I liked him cause he was pretty much built for more so for me i guess than the more tamed and traditional view of a hero as Luke
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 I've always wondered how they'd react to the best spiderman movies being starred by a black dude. Thank you for confirming the trauma is so deep they're still in denial
“The Body” was a perfect hour of drama. Buffy was powerless to help the person she loved most, who loved her first and best, her Mom and that crushed Buffy. Her mother gone like that…she was there, then she was gone.
Thé most impressive thing about it, aside from how bold it was to have such a serious take in Buffy specifically, I’d that it managed to convey the sadness, despair and powerlessness of losing a loved one by killing a terrible person…
Video made me realize that it’s ok I took a break to write my fantasy novel and focus on short stories and other writing pieces And I honestly I’m glad I’ve done that I’ve become a better writer
They had a good VFX team and costume/prop designers that they put into a trailer and people ate up. I would never trust some random student guy with such pretentious comments to helm the entire production without any experience or industry professionals involved and the fact people gave them money before the film was made makes my head spin. Seeing the scenes inside the warehouse or shipping container or whatever it is is hilarious and the goblin fight oh jesus. Totally agree with the lighting comments too haha
Feel that the fact that the director thought he “salvaged” the performance of the actress who gave the best performance of the movie is very indicative of the type of ego we’re working with here.
The irony is that both Warden Wayne and Gavin J. Konop had a particular grievance for Tom Holland's version of Spider-Man because they claim that the version of Spider-Man was flawed and they can do justice with the character, meanwhile when John Watts had appreciated their work after watching the trailer of Spider-Man Lotus they had soon reacted to the reply like they're a huge fan of his work, also for the kind information MCU's Spider-Man is way more comic book accurate than their version of Spider-Man, he didn't used anybody as a human shield, he cares about life, he could possibly do anything to save every single life, he is charming, funny, he didn't kill anyone and most importantly he never give up, and these qualities are completely missing from the MCU's version of Spider-Man.
@@disneyfox5726why is this all one sentence? You say MCU is more comic accurate, then end saying that "they" (who???) have a spiderman with qualities all missing from the MCU spiderman? What are you trying to say, please re-read your comment
@@alazkaalazka6087Any idea where that one video where Peni Parker is an anime otaku, and Miles feels uncomfortable, and then it ends with Spider-Man Noir saying the N-Word, and the other ITSV cast gets offended by him?
The whole point of Peter lashing out at MJ in the comic was to show that MJ wouldn't leave him alone, which planted the seeds of their eventual iconic romance. But nah, fuck that, just let him be a dick with no development for MJ.
