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Sheffield city centre NetZero Green buses costs by South Yorkshire Mayoral authority 

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Running empty on a route that no one uses. What a waste of money.
South Yorkshire Mayoral Combined Authority
11 Broad Street West
Sheffield
S1 2BQ
0114 2203400
REF SYMCAFOI 2024/88
10th June 2024
Dear Tim Wells,
Thank you for your request, under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, for recorded information relating to the following:
In relation to Net Zero Buses
1. How many are there?
Four currently in service on the city centre connect through a contract with South Pennine Community Transport. A further 23 due to start operating in June 2024 on Stagecoach services 22x/221. A further 11
community transport electric vehicles also due in later this year. A successful bid for electric services between Sheffield and Derbyshire will see further electric buses in the coming years.
2. How much did they cost?
The four already in service cost £396,009 each. Stagecoach purchased the 23 vehicles, with contributions from SYMCA and DfT’s ZEBRA fund. These 23 vehicles are due to start in services soon. The community
transport buses are expected to cost £67,305 each.
3. How were they funded?
The City Connect buses were funded through ZEBRA and the City Region Sustainable Transport Settlement (CRSTS) fund. The 221/22x buses were funded by Stagecoach with contributions from ZEBRA and CRSTS.
The ZEBRA fund was the result of a successful bid to DfT. The business case is published here
www.southyorks...
with-appendicies.pdf
4. How much does it cost to run them?
The cost of the contract with South Pennine Community Transport for the city centre shuttle service is £9,145.50 per week, funded by Sheffield City Council.
5. How many were stolen?
One was taken from Sheffield Interchange without the owner’s consent and later returned.
6. What was the cost of the damage?
The vehicles are leased to the operator who are managing the vehicle repairs with the manufacturer and
their insurance company. SYMCA does not hold information of damage or the repair costs.
7. What is the route and timetable?
Please see the document linked below:
www.travelsout...
2024-(Reduced-SC1-TT).pdf?ext=.pdf
8. Why am I seeing them drive past empty?
No information held.
I hope this information meets your requirements. However, if you are not satisfied with this response, please contact informationrequests@southyorkshire-CA.gov.uk asking for our reply to be reviewed with an explanation as to which aspect of the information we have provided requires further explanation and why.
If, after further clarification is provided, we are still unable to provide the information you have requested, you can ask the Information Commissioner to review our decision. The contact details are as follows:
Information Commissioner’s Officer
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
SK9 5AF
www.ico.org.uk
Yours sincerely,
Information Governance Team
Informationrequests@southyorkshire-ca.gov.uk
South Yorkshire Mayoral Combined Authority

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Комментарии : 27   
@KarenG.-qs7wc
@KarenG.-qs7wc 2 месяца назад
They should be forced to pay for them out of their own pockets.
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
Karen they could upgrade all the buses with convertors that may cost £10K, rather than waste on 4 buses.
@misscoutts6193
@misscoutts6193 2 месяца назад
The cost is exhorbitant but someone is making money out of it.
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
Why not just update the engines. Say £10K a vehicle, that would cover 160 buses.
@mrj8856
@mrj8856 2 месяца назад
This is what is riddiculous....you have old council buses polluting more than any other vehicle in the town centre...but other vehicles have fines in the clean air zone.
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
The 1.6 million for the green buses would have probably paid to update all the buses to be much cleaner.
@mast3335
@mast3335 2 месяца назад
Seen a mainline bus come by mine yesterday looked 20+years old and they waste there money on this shiiiite
@timothypowell6298
@timothypowell6298 2 месяца назад
You can tell they are still using the old carts the X1 and X78 routes are a prime exsample you might get a few days of having the new buses then rest of the week it's old buses from the 1980s and 1990s .
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
Scrapping the main bus rather than upgrading the engines which is far cheaper. Its not a very Green policy.
@davidbettney785
@davidbettney785 2 месяца назад
I was the joint SDP/Reform Mayoral Candidate and I said on my leaflet that the Net Zero needs a total rethink as it is bankrupting and doesn't achieve anything :(
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
Evening David. I think their Net Zero solutions are more polluting than waiting for a Green solution that didn't have a high manufacturing cost and end of life cycle. I dread to see all the solar panels at the end of their 25 year life cycle. We should have burned coal cleaner until Nuclear fusion was ready. Same with petrol cars, I think H20 cars not electric are the future. I am a Reform voter, SDP probably are close to us left of centre, but my concern was SDP's belief that AGW is warming the planet, when I think it is just noise, mainly down to population expansion. The issue is plastic pollution etc. , CO2 is the lifeblood of planet earth. Best regards Tim
@davidbettney785
@davidbettney785 2 месяца назад
@@timawells Hi Tim. We don't deny that there is climate change, as even if a cow farts it changes. We just believe that it's way way overestimated, and every solution they come up with like using solar panels, uses vast amounts of toxic rare earth metals. The Wind Turbines are no better, using 100 times more concrete and CO2 than a gas plant! We are being played, and it's time to have a heterodox voice and get some adults back in the room. I am the joint SDP/Reform UK taking on Ed (climate nut Milliband) in Donny North in this GE election ;)
@truebrit3670
@truebrit3670 2 месяца назад
I guess councils are reacting to all the claims online from people saying they'll never buy an EV and consequently ensuring there are sufficient buses for them.
@danl5592
@danl5592 2 месяца назад
In London we has had many fire 🔥 on these buses. The fire brigade have big trouble putting out the 🔥 fire
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
I have risked my life on a couple of journeys to do videos on them. Going to risk it once more on Connect 1. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oJGxn5wTczw.htmlsi=p1RYuHzSTn-Ms6Sm
@user-yu7zu1ij8p
@user-yu7zu1ij8p 2 месяца назад
when I did air quality testing in Leeds, I found little or no pollution. What I found was that air pollution is more to do weather than numbers of vehicles. So this craziness is all for very little at huge cost
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
Its an an ego thing.
@johnnyhollis9977
@johnnyhollis9977 2 месяца назад
Box ticking at enormous costs to the tax payers..........
@christopherward9230
@christopherward9230 2 месяца назад
396k for a bus?????? WTF 🤬
@leoncsorba9085
@leoncsorba9085 2 месяца назад
Beetamax busses.
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
Expensive Leon.
@BillyBanter100
@BillyBanter100 2 месяца назад
Electric buses quickly break down and become an even worst financial headache for the tax payer due the I inherent flaws in EV technology. And let's not forget the fire risk.
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
I am sure they could have converted 360 buses for the cost of these 4 Green buses.
@richardhutchinson5546
@richardhutchinson5546 2 месяца назад
think one might have broken down, seen a regular diesel bus operation the SC1 route the other day
@timawells
@timawells 2 месяца назад
@@richardhutchinson5546 I remember trying to catch one the week before, I think one had broken down as I missed the first and it didn't reappear in 30 minutes.
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