@@setharnold3699 very true , what I meant is I just don't think it gets the respect it should , for people like us its the holy grail , lot of history behind those cars, dare I say possibly even more than any of the 500's .
Steve Hall yeah guess your right in that aspect. Chevy and Dodge fan boys talk a tough but know that the BOSS is the pinnacle of the muscle cars. I wish I’d have a chance to ride in one with the more aggressive cam and large carburetor like the set up used in nascar in the late 60’s. My life would be complete.
Those are the ONLY 2 good ones in the entire existence of Mustangs, 67-68 GT500 and 69-70 Boss 429. That’s it. 71 to now has just been an ongoing production of ugly ass trash.
Damn, two of the most beautiful cars ever made. Most may disagree, but I'd have to go with a 69 because after seeing one at a car show about 6 years ago, it has been my favorite car of all time. The 67 is literally right on its heels though.
The 69 was all business and the 67 was more for style in my opinion take the boss 429 build the hell out of it and drop it in the 67 then you have power and style
I seen with my own two eyes a 1969 boss 429 fake sell for 220 thousand dollars. Now it was very nice very well restored car...but it was a 220 thousand dollar fake. If that were a real boss 429. Welllllll the sky is the limit. Them people who have oil money in the middle east will spend big money for cars like that. If your friends car was a true Boss 429...with the title saying so with numbers matching and he sold it for 105 thousand...then he sold out waaaaaaay to cheap. Of course everybody claims to have a real one there were only about 1600 ever made. Soooooo
Typically the Boss 429 was more suited to the NASCAR tracks, rather than the 1/4 mile strip. I'll never forget the sound of David Pearson's #21 Wood Brothers Mercury 429. He dominated that MI. race in '76! Those Boss 429 engines had a distinct sound all there own!
I don't understand why they didn't put the 429 boss engine in the Torino,they keep saying it was for NASCAR but i sure never saw a Mustang on a NASCAR track. They really had to to do some re-engineering to get that in a Mustang
@@scottmickelson363 Ford decided the Boss 429 would sell better as a unique Mustang than put the Boss 429 into a Torino. BTW, Ford factory didn't build the Boss 429 Mustangs. Aftermarket company, Kar Kraft, built them using bare shell factory Mustangs.
HP is HP, Boss 429 is suited to whatever contest of HP you want it to compete it in. It’s a closed chamber, opposed valve monster of an engine with more inherent potential than then OE 426 Hemi. The Boss 9 for a bad “drag strip” stigma because Ford handicapped the street motors with intake, cam and carb selection. The Boss 9 is a great drag motor
I must say I would love to own either one of these cars one day but a 1970 boss 429 is my all time dream car. After me and my dad restoring his 70 Mach 1 I’ve always have been a huge mustang fan. Just a huge bummer he let it go last year. I guess it just means I’m going to have to find me a boss 9 one day and work on it with my sons.
There's a framed 24x20 print of a red 1969 Boss 429 on my office wall right above my desk. I look at it everyday and it transports my 73 year old mind back to the days of the muscle cars. The Boss was my dream car back then . . . and has been since. It's unlikely (due to cost) that I will ever own one, but in my mind's eye, I envision myself pulling up to a stop light, the driver side window rolled down, my left arm resting on the door. As I look to my left at the driver beside me admiring the Boss, I smile slightly and say . . . "don't you wish you were me?"😎
I know where I was. I was at the local Ford dealer. I saw the Boss 429 mustang with a $5,000 MSRP tag in the window. I said "That's ridiculous. Nobody is ever going to pay $5,000 for a Mustang." I wasn't far off. The car sat at the dealership for almost a year until they sold it to another dealer.
Having owned a 68 with a 428 scj, (5400 bucks new) and a 4-speed...I can tell you the Shelby is 400 pounds heavier than a GT. Mine would whip a STOCK boss 429 in the quarter mile. But...if the boss got headers, slicks and a decent sized carb...oh, no, the boss would win. I put those things on mine....the boss still won. They were made to modify. (both).
When I was nineteen, I got a 1970 BOSS 429. Headers, a Holley 850 double pumper to replace the anemic 735 cfm vacuum secondary carb, and disconnecting the rev limiter and distributor vacuum retard REALLY woke my BOSS up. Selling it has been the biggest regret of my life. It was Pastel Blue. Only eighteen Pastel Blue BOSS 429s were made.
@@jameshuseby6290 Wrecked it. Damage was repaired but then later discovered that the engine block had cracked. I was young and didn’t foresee the future that well.
At first i fell in love with the 67 , then when i saw the 69 it became my all time favorite mustang , but the 67 will always be my highschool sweetheart and have a special place in my heart
I owned a cherry blue 1969 Boss 429 in 1972 and later a blue 1967 Shelby GT500. Both cars were a super blast to drive. The Shelby was flashier with the white stripes but the Boss felt like it had a better suspension and a better ride. For you little whiners down below, when I said I owned a cherry blue 429, I meant that it was in great (cherry) condition. You little girls need to get updated in car talk. Now go play with your little cell phones.
No. It's called a stall converter, slicks and a much larger cam/carb than what was factory installed. There's no way either of these cars would pull the front wheels from the factory, even with slicks.
☑️ It's easy to tell who has the 4speed manual in races involving ANY Boss Mustang, because they ONLY came with top loader 4spd manual transmissions. Automatic transmissions were not an option in Boss 302, Boss 351 or Boss 429 Mustangs, which makes them even cooler! ✊😄👍
Running time tickets, not brackets. It'd be a red light in a bracket and "no time", but here it's yellow. Time racing is only about times at the sensor. Jumped, but the time started. I'm not bracket racing either of those based on what they are.
Roc Bottom... the new GT500 is, sure. but we are talking classic mustangs. the 1971 Boss 351 had the fastest 1/4 mile time of any 60's, 70's, 80's or 90's mustang from the factory.
Two legendary musclecars, to be sure. I personally prefer the Boss-9, but the GT500s (particularly the KR variants) were plenty fast, and also had a bit better handling. This a race that I'd be glad to be the "loser" in!
I like how the 67 looks sleek and elegant even without a front spoiler, it doesn't need it. The 69 is however my favorite. It's got the right proportions and attitude and is more spacious inside. Ultimate shark nose design on the front before it all became a bit too cute for my liking in '70 with two headlights
The two most iconic big block Mustangs ever made. But the regular 428 CJ Mustangs were faster in the 1/4 mile than a stock Boss 429 was. Ford really plugged up that engine from the factory with that little 735 cfm carburetor and really restrictive exhaust system. Plus the street version of the Boss 429 engine was WAAAAAY under-cammed. They should've used the same solid lifter cam in the Boss 429 as they used in the 429 SCJ. Never understood why they didn't and also never understood how a Boss 429 got a smaller 4 barrel carburetor than a Boss 302 did from the factory. Big block race engines don't like little tiny carburetors and plugged up exhaust systems. I understand they were trying to make it more streetable but they took it a little too far.
@@sparkyguitar0058 Yes, and no. it was available to the general public to a certain degree in extremely limited numbers. Special order only.Those cars were built for the primary purpose of running in the Super Stock classes where the Boss 351 was available to the general public and not as a purpose built vehicle. Do you know what the tests listed as the e.t.and mph of those Cobra Jets? 68 1/2 CJ was 14.01 with 103 mph, the 71 Boss 351 was in the 13's.Different magazines reported different results so I suppose it is subjective.
I was a lot boy at a Ford dealership in 1970. It was a gloomy, grey day with slight drizzle. My manager threw me a set of keys, “take that car over too the other lot”. It was a bright red Boss 429 with a HURST shifter. Oh how I wanted to romp on that gas pedal. NOT ON A RAINY DAY! Sweet.
I couldn't tell for sure. Who won? I do know this, the 1969 Mustang Boss 429s were officially rated at 375 horsepower. That was because Ford was afraid that if they listed the TRUE horsepower, insurance companies and the government would not allow Ford to sell the car. The TRUE horsepower, the actual horsepower varied from 525 horsepower to as much as 565 horsepower and maybe even greater.
That's two monsters right there... I'd turn the gt500 into a Eleanor n cruise it... the boss I'd keep put up too lol... that's a nervous drag race , you got two ridiculously rare mustangs that are worth a small fortune a piece , hauling balls down a drag strip.. but that's what they was created for.. to street race n look n sound amazing.. and it's awesome to see em still doing it... but man those are some of the most rarest mustangs nowadays especially that 500.. I get nervous every time I see a Boss 302 , boss 429 , Gt350 , gt500 and the mach 1s drag race.. because you don't see em anymore , and they don't make em anymore. And once crashed its almost impossible to restore em.. but they are fun to watch n see.
As Robert stated on here Boss 429 was not set up for drag racing. But I knew a man I took a 94 Mustang installed the Boss 429 and set it up for drag racing. At the time when he first built it it was the fastest Mustang in the country. The next time I saw him he bumped it up from 850 horsepower to well over a thousand naturally aspirated. And if I remember correctly it went from zero to a hundred in 2.8 seconds. In fact how this came about GM Engineers heard about the car and challenged him and put together the fastest possible car they could and lost. Used to be a video of the race wonder if it's still around?
I'm sorry, but I disagree with you on the power output. I'd have to see the dyno sheets. 850hp naturally aspirated is approximately 2hp/cubic inch, which-MAYBE-is almost unbelievable 😳. BUT, let's say you are correct, and it did make 850hp. But 1,000+NATURALLY ASPIRATED??!!! This would now be 2.33hp/cubic inch!!! Sorry, but I call BS......
@@milojanis4901Ford was making close to 800 horsepower in the 60’s with the Boss 429 100% believable these engines came make way more naturally aspirated
Thanks for posting! This is the way things used to be, Interesting instead of Booooring! Pro Stock these days is as boring as watching paint dry. This is more my speed. Going to attend some Southeast Gasser's Ass. runs this year! They look fun. Wheelies, hard launches. They may be slow but they're spectacular!
Wow That was some camera work And I really liked how we don’t know the ETs or trap speeds🤔 I mean it’s not like gear-heads want to know either of those things right?
Obviously neither of these cars are stock (including OEM tires), but if you go back and look at 1/4 magazine times of the muscle car era, the quickest Ford was the 1971 Mustang Boss 351.
With all that excessive weight up front, I don't see it as a balanced Track Machine. It couldn't hold a candle to a new Caddy CT5-V Blackwing on the track. Then again, that car is equipped a 6.2 Supercharged Corvette Z06 V8 with 662 hp, 0-60 mph in 3.4 sec for $125,000; Dealer Pricing $140,000 & they're already sold out.
The GT500/427 is just a better setup. The Boss 429 just doesn't have any low/mid-range power stock. Needs a little work to really be competitive. The 428CJ was better but that thing is a boat anchor compared to the 427.
Takes these two stock from the sales floor and race them, that's the true measure of have a race between the two. Which one would win with what they originally came with?
oh look its the only 2 muscle cars I would ever buy, at the same place at the same time, what are the odds? well, maybe id get the 70 charger too, you got me lol. but that's it
