Shell Shock - The Psychological Scars of World War 1 I THE GREAT WAR Special

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The traumata of warfare were certainly nothing new when World War 1 broke out. But the extreme and prolonged exposure to machine gun fire, artillery bombardments and trench warfare led to a new kind of psychological disorder: Shell Shock. Soldiers who were perfectly fine on the outside, were incapable of fighting or living a normal life anymore.
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@TheGreatWar 3 года назад

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@shantishan1172 3 года назад

@jamescepe7506 3 года назад

Still operating

@Benny.13 2 года назад

I believe it was inhaling all the chemicals and fumes of bombs and gunfire.Alot of gasses were also unknowingly by the enemy used to do neurological damage mixed with the emotional trauma of war this is your result .

@baroose67 Год назад

There is new evidence now that the amount of concussion persistent over the career of artillery troops can cause symptoms very close to PTSD and some thought is given to that it may cause chronic encephalitis. So both psychological and physical trauma exasperates each other.

@1969JohnnyM 8 лет назад

You cant help but feel extreme pity and sadness for these poor people.

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

Yeah, it's so unbelievable what they have been through.

@jonathanoxlade4252 8 лет назад

yea well when you go to war one you seen combat throw your life away because after it you might aswel put a bullet in your head how can you live after going through that

@grahamlane131 8 лет назад

agreed. a difficult topic highlighted in this episode. full kudos to all on the great war for their endeavours.

@slopcrusher3482 8 лет назад

John Maddin yeah, they remind me of people with dimentia or some major mental illness, just stairing off with nothing going on in their brain, staggering around like zombies it's very sad how most of these soldiers were just moved aside as not an illness

@pieterjanwillems5149 8 лет назад

slopcrusher look up on youtube: shell shock. Horrible

@factorscrinium 8 лет назад

'A generation of men who, even though they may have escaped its shells, were destroyed by war.' Erich Maria Remarque.

@thatoneradicalizedprussian225 7 лет назад

All quiet on the Western front

@petlahk4119 5 лет назад

This needs to be the top comment, not the person who is being disrespectful to victims of Shell Shock and people who care alike.

@nickb2208 5 лет назад

Don't forget the women and children and families who's lives were destroyed or forever ruined and the casualties of war.

@shadowthrunight5911 5 лет назад

"But now, for the first time, I see you are a man like me. I thought of your hand grenades, of your bayonet, of your rifle; now I see your wife and your face and our fellowship. Forgive me, comrade. We always see it too late. Why do they never tell us that you are poor devils like us, that your mothers are just as anxious as ours, and that we have the same fear of death, and the same dying and the same agony - Forgive me, comrade; how could you be my enemy?" This could be applied to modern times, with all the Trumps, Erdogans and Putins in this world who sow hatred

@julz3tt3 5 лет назад

Hence known as the "Lost Generation"... 😢😢😢😢

@diegolavera6508 7 лет назад

Watching those soldiers trying there best to walk and do normal everyday tasks brings tears to my eyes, truly depressing

@miepmaster25 3 года назад

@tannerthepanman9202 3 года назад

@@miepmaster25 okay

@swirlffle8323 3 года назад

Wth why are these recent

@speedy4205 3 года назад

@sickeningmisfit9898 3 года назад

What’s even more sad about it is that these were young men even teenagers going through all of that.

@PalmettoNDN 5 лет назад

My great-grandfather spent most of the rest of his life after WW1 at the South Carolina Lunatic Asylum. He suffered from shell shock after being knocked unconscious during a wave and waking in a crater with rotten corpses and being stuck there for weeks. Snipers kept him from getting out. Eventually he got back by following a German wave into the American trenches and almost died doing it. As a Native American, he did this all for a country that refused to see him as a citizen.

@doreenperrault8301 Год назад

Thank you for the comment. It was very interesting to read

@joergmaass Год назад

Poor guy! War is terrible!

@PlatinumIrishrose Месяц назад

I am sorry. 😢❤

@EPFForsyth 3 года назад

I am a combat wounded US veteran with 5 years and 4 months of actual trigger time. You would not believe what happened to my unit the first time we actually got shelled. It broke men, it made some defecate in their pants, most of us just peed on ourselves a bit, and some just hid the anxiety and developed serious emotional outburst issues later. During training we were never shelled, but the Iraq army had rockets, and a smooth bore artillery that actually out preformed ours in sheer distance. Having to clean up someone you have known and trained with for years and there is only about 10 pounds flesh, bone, and goo left of them is a very difficult thing to come to grips with, as it may be you next... Anyone who starts a war should have to have someone they love on the front lines...

@sashahamilton9550 2 года назад

wow, this is heartbreaking. I hope you're doing better

@b-retrogamer2324 Год назад

Why would you sign up for military? You can’t change anything

@Ditka-89 Год назад

Thank you for your service

@Deathstock Год назад

Did you end up finding those WMDs?

@mkul7ra_xx Год назад

@@Ditka-89

@juanaltredo2974 7 лет назад

war is always hell but the first world war was a truly very special and extreme kind of hell, I dont think europe ever recovered from the sheer horror of that war. I mean it basically lost a generation

@Zer0thehero117 7 лет назад

Generations of men were lost in world war 1 and 2

@juanaltredo2974 7 лет назад

NestR flores agreed, but WW I left a trauma that don't even allows for the usual macho, heroe talk you had in the second WW. It was a silent pact to not talk about it because it was too horrible to discuss. Think about how many WW II comedies were produced so soon after the war, humans still could laugh at the horror, but not many comedies were made about the first one, because the horror still was lingering, like the gas, too present to laugh at them.

@juanaltredo2974 7 лет назад

***** but thsts because while theres a war going the public rarely gets a fair assessment of the brutality and cruelty of it, only when its finished people can make fair judgements and understand the hell of it all

@mitchellcasetta3655 7 лет назад

juan altredo that's why the vets and people that died are called the lost generation

@fxzero666 7 лет назад

That's why they're called the Lost Generation, unlike WWII veterans who are called the Golden Generation.

@TheColonelMargotic 7 лет назад

The german thing with work might actually was a good solution. You see my dad is a Veteran who has PTSD he was wounded and came back home the first thing he done was build a huge farm even though he had a pension when i got a bit older i asked him why he did that he answerd me "Son if i didnt have anything to do i would kill myself"

@julz3tt3 5 лет назад

The Europeans were much more progressive in their treatment of these poor men, aside from the UK that is.

@Ale-mv3gr 5 лет назад

I was thinking the same, give a man a clear purpose in life and he will find the will to overcome most obstacles.

@peculiarlittleman5303 5 лет назад

@@Ale-mv3gr That's very similar to what Victor Frankl wrote, "Give someone a Why and they will find the How."

@peculiarlittleman5303 4 года назад

I should have given him the attribution. Ooops! My only contribution was the caps. :(

@superme63 4 года назад

I don't have PTSD, or any other illness from war. I have severe, chronic, and debilitating depression and suicidal ideations. People who know that of me, always question how I manage to do the day-to-day tasks of life...and I give them a very padded version of what your dad said to you. I do it to make it to tomorrow.

@michaelthompson3284 8 лет назад

I, of course, cannot speak for everyone but, as someone that has been treated in a hospital for PTSD, I have to say that the German method actually sounds kind of nice. Being given a job in a community amongst others who are coming from the same place and being given military-style orders (which for me at the time was what I was most comfortable with in regards to any form of guidance so it would not be unreasonable that German soldiers in 1916 may feel the same way) seems like at least a good starting point to work from.

@Raygun222 8 лет назад

I agree.

@IIIIIIII 7 лет назад

agreed. when you think about it, the method makes a lot of sense.

@mjinnh2112 7 лет назад

I thought it sounded like the best treatment too. Beekeeping...

@Raygun222 7 лет назад

It used to frighten me, but not anymore, because I have seen that pic everyday. Something way scarier is Black Dahlia or the jawless WW1 guy.

@erikaitsumi7198 7 лет назад

Michael Thompson yea that treatment sounds relatively nice since they dont get treated wierdly or given electric shock but instead get to live in their little community

@lordred4116 4 года назад

My mum worked in a mental hospital in the 1950s. She said there were dozens of older men with shell shock, who had been locked away by the government because they were considered an embarrassment.

@u-shanks4915 2 года назад

The government officials should be hanged for that

@SandfordSmythe 2 года назад

To be truthful, probably their families didn't want them.

@mattstrathis4328 Год назад

@@SandfordSmythe Thats BS

@Nunya58294 Год назад

@@SandfordSmythe idiot

@Jo_Wardy Месяц назад

That's fucked up. Get those fuckers in government to go to war and tell us how they feel

@StoryTimeZE 2 года назад

Watching footage of shell shock victims is like watching a horror movie but worse. From the dead eyes, stiff walk, and poor treatment from doctors, it’s horrific to think that this happened to hundreds of thousands of troops during the war, and millions of troops after

@Jo_Wardy Месяц назад

And many men were ruined and never came back. They were still at war till they died.

@VintageLJ 8 лет назад

This series is literally the most detailed and educational series about WW1 there is, as far as I know. Covering everything that happens _every week of the war_ is insane, and bloody brilliant!

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

+VintageLJ THanks.

@notdarell6951 8 лет назад

yeah might not be WWII but I became fascinated to WWI due to this channel.

@TheFrothyBrew 7 лет назад

Check out Dan Carlin's podcast called "Hardcore History". I can't recommend this guy enough. He made a 5 or 6-part series on WWI and each episode is about 4-5 hours long.

@Mike-tw1pi 7 лет назад

This series (The Great War) and Indy deserve an Emmy. They need to create a category for best web series, or something similar.

@flipgunderson1946 4 года назад

@@TheGreatWar where can I find the photo from the thumbnail?

@Brandon210-q4n 8 лет назад

I think the reason for officers having a higher rate of contracting shell shock or another disorder was because of the added responsibility of being a leader. They're seeing men they lead shredded by machine guns or blown apart by a shell, and just can't hack it.

@anthonydeluca6966 7 лет назад

Brandon Korner Obviously

@rubenschreuder5196 6 лет назад

low rank officers where the fits one to get out of the trench so they dy a lot faster

@VT-mw2zb 6 лет назад

Or they just survived more often.

@obiwaankenobi4460 6 лет назад

They feel as if the deaths are their fault. They think they ordered men to their deaths.

@davewolfy2906 6 лет назад

Officers did not have the same camaraderie and mutual support that the ranks had, they had an aloof and relatively solitary position of authority. They also had a hideous mortality rate.

@hermanPla 8 лет назад

'In Russia they were quite forward thinking' Thats a sentence you don't hear every day.

@stefanfilipovits9221 8 лет назад

Seriously! That's what I thought too. It was weird to hear how progressive some German & Russian treatments were given their authoritarian and iron reputations at the time. I know Germany was pretty progressive in the time before the Nazi take over but still. What a surprise.

@Zamolxes77 8 лет назад

+hermanPla Russians were forward thinking in a lot of domains - tank design comes to mind, a little later, but on the flip side, backwards in others.

@gregmiller9710 8 лет назад

+hermanPla only to lose that edge by the bols. revolution.. give them a hearty thanks..

@gregmiller9710 8 лет назад

***** true dat.. they just got rid of a one that was getting better for one that was worse......

@ramzanninety-five3639 8 лет назад

+hermanPla is't more unusual to hear it in Russia, believe me.

@goddessofchaos7754 6 лет назад

"Young men should not fight old men's wars." -Dalton Trumbo

@vksasdgaming9472 4 года назад

@Felix Tofts It is really sad, but only soldiers who fought in a war know value of peace. I mean truly KNOW its value.

@vksasdgaming9472 4 года назад

@Felix Tofts Also true and even sadder.

@C4RL1NN 4 года назад

You’re right. Let’s send the nursing homes to fight the battles. Smart.

@urhunn7778 2 года назад

Well, who else would fight wars, other than young men? For them it's an adventure, a lot of them can't wait for the oppurtunity to be issued a gun and charge towards the enemy's general direction. We are all barbarians at age 20.

@Aster_Risk Год назад

@@urhunn7778 Fantastic job completely missing the point of the quote. 👏

@edgleason8918 Год назад

I have former students who have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. One of them returned home and his unit was greeted by a throng of friends and family who gathered in to welcome them back. A few men, combat veterans, ran and hid themselves while he repeatedly asked his father if he was really home and if things were really okay. There are also interviews with WWI vets who were then in their 90s or over 100, but could recall what they saw as teenagers with absolute clarity. It never goes away.

@RatTalisman 7 лет назад

All this footage of how physically disturbed they were makes me want to throw up. Holy shit.

@RatTalisman 7 лет назад

Blackball Couldn't agree more.

@erenjeager5290 7 лет назад

Finn Jenkins it makes me wanna fight for those guys

@sotis1756 6 лет назад

Odious Ktenology Jup ive made that mistake xD

@conspiracybear1564 6 лет назад

The comstant thumping down of artilery gave them micro concussions. There eyes sunk then skin tightenes turned white and yellow. They speak in quick short gitty burst like drunks.

@obiwaankenobi4460 6 лет назад

They were malnourished...they didn't eat...they walked in a zombie-like manner.

@johnbrewington2539 8 лет назад

Ernst Junger in "storm of steel" describes surviving an artillery barrage as like being a man blindfolded and tied securely to a post, while another man swings a heavy hammer at your head. You can hear him wind up and swing, and then Crack! it hits the post instead. I highly recommend the book to anyone wanting an authentic German perspective of the war on the western front.

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

We will have a special about him.

@kevinwilmot8110 7 лет назад

Did you listen to that podcast too?

@LukoHevia 7 лет назад

His and Erich Maria Remarque's 'All Quiet on the Western Front' are always considered the most important war books by people who fought on the german side. Remarque's is a work of fiction, and it is strongly anti-war, while Junger's is a memoir and it portrays war in a more positive way. Despite their differences in views and style, both have been very influential, and i find them very interesting for those interested in the german perspective

@fatto77 6 лет назад

One of the finest books I've ever read. Bought it last year and I've read it three time and loaned it to friends.

@anbitye2134 4 года назад

I was going to buy it.

@RRRoyalGames 8 лет назад

Poor soldiers.

@raygiordano1045 8 лет назад

+Spiniosa They are the primary victims of war and even peace. I think of Orwell's "Animal Farm." As soon as their soldier was no longer needed, he was liquidated. Or Kipling. "For it's, 'Tommy this and Tommy that!' And, 'chuck 'im out, the brute. But it's, 'saviour of 'is country,' when the guns begin to shoot."

@supersev2001 8 лет назад

as my great great grandfather said about ww1 I would rather die then let austria Hungary lose the irony is he survived all 4 years

@supersev2001 8 лет назад

as my great great grandfather said about ww1 I would rather die then let austria Hungary lose the irony is he survived all 4 years

@bobbyamerican1979 8 лет назад

+supersev2001 which country did he fight for in WW1?

@RRRoyalGames 8 лет назад

Aus-Hun?

@kathyboxx3678 5 лет назад

My grandfather and his brother fought in the Great War. turns out the brother returned with shell shock, shot his wife who was with another man, the man, and then, himself. Very sad.

@TheMaztercom 4 года назад

going to war and returning to see your wife with other man, i dont blame him, poor guy but, that is women nature.

@stevekaczynski3793 4 года назад

@@TheMaztercom Some men at the front received "Dear John" letters and returned to wreak vengeance on the wife and the new partner.

@sosteve9113 4 года назад

Unfortunately this happens even today

@Greatergood3 3 года назад

@@TheMaztercom please tell me more about women nature. You seem like an expert

@TheMaztercom 3 года назад

@@Greatergood3 i cant, youtube censor what i writte, i dont know why.

@dreadpiraterobertsii4420 5 лет назад

British: medicine Germans: fresh air and farm work Russians: medicine+ communism Italy: more combat (for some reason) France: “Pierre get le jump cable”

@wiemarball8966 4 года назад

I think

@michaelward9880 4 года назад

What about the U.S.A.?

@doeweeyah1236 4 года назад

@@michaelward9880 usa is too late to have a problem like them

@dorianphilotheates3769 3 года назад

Dread pirate Roberts II - Greece: roast lamb and olive oil.

@dreadpiraterobertsii4420 3 года назад

@@dorianphilotheates3769 making my mouth water just thinking of it

@Maluhia808 8 лет назад

that's fucking sad how war world 1 veterans deal with this condition.

@goodnoodle4337 7 лет назад

Maluhia808 most WW1 veterans have passed away now.

@notatumor433 7 лет назад

Maluhia808 all ww1 vets are dead

@matthewwinner9197 7 лет назад

NotaTumor not all

@nyyankees4296 7 лет назад

yes all

@Griffin4122 7 лет назад

Think about it. They'd be at the very least 112 years old now. (if they were 14 years old in 1918)

@aboot2754 8 лет назад

Watching these old videos of people being messed with while suffering from PTSD is hard to watch... great video as always

@caelvanir8557 8 лет назад

meme Poking at people with what we know today as serious medical and mental conditions like they're curiosities does infuriate me.

@C4RL1NN 4 года назад

You have to learn and have to experiment. If you just left them in bed all day with the lights out and curtains drawn then you’d learn nothing even though they’d no doubt prefer it that way.

@joeldecoster8816 3 года назад

why do we watch it, it is a morose form of entertainment

@ecliptic6911 3 года назад

Same man..

@OwenPrescott 2 года назад

Now imagine what people of the future will think of our treatments today

@hlynnkeith9334 8 лет назад

My uncle came back from the Second World War with shell shock. For the rest of his life, his right hand trembled (zitterte).

@megawave79 3 года назад

@@Doesitmatter00710 what?

@kenlucas5474 2 года назад

@@Doesitmatter00710 WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!!??

@snaek2594 Год назад

@@kenlucas5474 what did they say

@phil3924 Год назад

My dad was a kid in the 40's and he would talk about some guy in his neighborhood who had this from WW1. Stumbling around and talking to himself.

@FREEMAN.... 4 года назад

WWI is by far the most psychologically devastating war of all times.

@bubsterjohnson7438 3 года назад

Vietnam war was super fucked up too tho

@RigbyWilde 2 года назад

I agree. At least in world war 2, you knew that the Axis were evil and they had to be defeated. In ww1, you dont even know why was fighting

@robertmaybeth3434 2 года назад

Pretty sure, they all are, every one... my dad's uncle with the American expeditionary forces got gassed in France in 1918 and survived it, but was never the same. He lived for a few decades and could never breathe right afterwards. And suffered from it, every day until he died.

@reputation1990 2 года назад

How

@AgniFirePunch Год назад

@bubsterjohnson7438 they were similar in some ways but I still think WW1 was worse

@angels2online 8 лет назад

Fuck, the guys just wobbling about like that, it looks horrific. It actually made my eyes water up.

@lesliemotorsport8077 7 лет назад

Cleaveage Tenshi same

@redoxam 7 лет назад

Cleaveage Tenshi it’s horrible, it makes me so sad.

@RollerPigg 8 лет назад

I wonder if the Germans had the best way of dealing with it (?). It would seem like 1) putting these men in an environment where they are amongst their peers with the same issues and 2) giving them meaningful jobs, allowing them to be productive.

@alexporter7379 8 лет назад

+Joe Stubbernubbensteingenson This is similar to what the US government does for those soldiers, and marines who have PTSD.

@RollerPigg 8 лет назад

Des Ires Isn't it amazing how therapeutic simple camaraderie and productivity can be?

@Punisherfan123 8 лет назад

I remember hearing about a lot of Germans being ostracized and even executed for "cowardice" and "defeatism" when displaying signs of PTSD. They were often mocked by not only their soldier peers, but even civilians, especially afger the war when many civilians held grudges towards enlisted men, viewing them as responsible for the horrendous state Germany was in, as they were "responsible" for Germany losing the war.

@RollerPigg 8 лет назад

Punisherfan123 I can see where that would happen, when you're on the losing side, and your country is suffering because of the defeat. (probably even on the winning side, to some degree).

@TheBoldImperator 8 лет назад

+Joe Stubbernubbensteingenson it doesn't help that a lot of German WW1 veterans formed paramilitary groups after the war like the freikorps, the spartacus league (actually formed during the war), and later the SA. Much of the NSDAP's original support and base came from WW1 veterans, and extremist views both on the right and the left were common and becoming increasingly more common over time...

@mick2403 8 лет назад

We all need to thank them for their sacrifice

@panzer8671 8 лет назад

for every country...

@mick2403 8 лет назад

Yes

@UCUCUC27 8 лет назад

pleese dont be so cringy

@mick2403 8 лет назад

Fok off

@UCUCUC27 8 лет назад

The rancho bro ?o-o

@chriscraven9335 4 года назад

Over the centuries, I wonder how many soldiers had been summarily executed by their own side, due to 'treason' or 'cowardice', when they had PTSD...?

@aickavon 3 года назад

From what I understand. A lot of Irish people were.

@mohammedisaa9952 Год назад

Also russians, from what i have read in the comments, but today cowardice in the russian army is not punished on the soilders, but on their families by poo-tins kgb, where people magically disapear in the night never to be seen again, and new families take over the homes, their old homes are filled with Ukranians that have been captured by the russians and moved to the urils or somewhere far far away........ thats poo-tin efficency

@tristan2193 Год назад

If it helps, from what I have read and understand, most of that stuff occurred at the very beginning of the war. Surprisingly, the mental health effects were very closely studied and rapidly began being understood in such fashion that MOST of the time, especially in Germany, the idea that PTSD developing soldiers were just "cowards" who deserve execution for treason stopped almost entirely. There was a LOT of shuffling soldiers in and out of the front line that basically corresponded with how much they seemed to be developing negative psychological effects. Mental health, and the strain of being on the front lines, was taken VERY seriously as the war dragged on. In fact, especially in the Western Front, many soldiers would not have to spend more than a week in the front line before they were rotated back to the reserve line.

@GeorgeAusters 4 года назад

Could you even imagine being in a muddy trench for months on end eating out of a tin and living off a couple hours sleep per night?

@sniperelite360 4 года назад

@2manynegativewaves They where still in the trenches when they where rotated.

@stevekaczynski3793 Год назад

British troops were rotated regularly, which may have prevented mass mutinies breaking out like those that affected the French in 1917. All troops on the Western Front were rotated on either side, spending some time in the rear with its improved living conditions compared to the trenches. But the British sent men to the rear more often and more regularly.

@eioclementi1355 8 лет назад

My friend was telling me about his great grandad after he returned back from ww1 when the coal man would deliver the coal it would make a loud bang at which point he would start flipping over the furniture and hiding under it screaming and shouting . loud bangs and other events affected him till he died his only remedy would be spending all the houses money on alcohol he would drink every day.

@PaulRudd1941 5 лет назад

This comment made me tear up...

@tuljan4419 5 лет назад

eio clementi most of the people who survived the war in Bosnia have the same symptoms, even simple sound of slamming a car door can cause people to slightly duck as the sound is very familiar to a mortar shot.

@ryanschuler9827 5 лет назад

They have a video on RU-vid... Poor soldier was unresponsive to all words except for "bomb" and he would do what your grandpa would do..

@harmonizedigital. 4 года назад

I had a mild case of that after a bad car crash. Glass breaking would bring the memory right back. Luckily I got over it and now drive for a living.

@totallyfrozen 4 года назад

Very sad

@nirvanafan21191 8 лет назад

It should also be noted that often, when shellshocked soldiers were unable to function on the frontline, their COs and other superior officers would have them shot, not even realizing they were in extreme mental distress. Sad.

@Chriscraft-ug3sz 4 года назад

Yes but it wasn’t that plentiful

@davisworth5114 4 года назад

@josh There is no evidence to support this. The British shot some men for desertion, they have been pardoned by the UK government, when the French Army resisted en masse in 1917, about fifty were shot.

@ang47 4 года назад

@Somarik Green Because that's what those at the bottom are. The day they will be true individuals, who refuse to go to war, they will no longer be cannon fodder. But even today, that's what you, the masses, are :)

@aybrokemyback6739 4 года назад

@@ang47 the day that your country will be full of true individuals who refuse to go to war will be the day that your country will be enslaved by non-individualist community's that want to go to war. Like all pacifists you think that you can chose your enemy, but it's the enemy that chose you.

@aybrokemyback6739 4 года назад

@@davisworth5114 in both cases those numbers are fake. I know as a french that probably more were killed. There's a story about a commander who used the expression "faites monter la viande" which mean "bring the meat" to call soldiers and launch an attack and it clearly didn't go well with the soldiers There's probably like 400 or 500 killed by peloton for desertion, cowardice etc...

@adamd0ggg2 7 лет назад

The German treatment plan doesn't seem that bad. Giving soldiers treatment while the soldiers were still able to contribute to the state. I think it was important for most of those soldiers to feel like they were contributing.

@kanegarvey3188 3 года назад

Yes and paying them for their labour instead of making them feel pitied

@Tmanowns Год назад

Granted, it was 1910's factory work, so it was grueling stuff, but I do think the feeling of being a burden goes a long way to making lots of veterans feel worse, even today.

@joshobio98 Год назад

@@Tmanowns your spot on I think. As grueling as the work was I think just being productive and contributing in some type of way as apose to "pointless work" was an awesome way to go about things. As back and forth as the process was to get these soldiers the help they need.. I think this was a pivotal point and layed a few tiles of foundation to work and build from. Would be so fascinating to have a time machine to see the development first hand!

@hug0420 2 года назад

My father recalls that my grandfather's friend was a Vietnam vet. A Mexican immigrant that was drafted into the war in the 60's. He'd say that even in his 50's he would start screaming claiming that bombs were dropping, he'd start screaming for his life as if bombs were actually dropping. When he moved to Mexico for retirement he was still severely traumatized from Vietnam even 20 years after the war. He was just labeled as crazy and was banned from restaurants in the state.

@mr.sir. Год назад

At least he wasn't murdered like the USSR did to most of its vets

@mohammedisaa9952 Год назад

@Vaquero Hugo .... was Mexico really a wise choice when there was/is so many cartell drug killings through street gun battles and explosions going off everyday in many places..... dead bodys left lieing in the street and all of the horrors where gangs chop each other up and leave body parts lieing around to be found............?

@McCbobbish 5 лет назад

Soldier’s heart is my favorite name for shell shock. It’s very poetic.

@davisworth5114 4 года назад

It's also accurate; "PTSD" robs a person of vitality and will.

@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 3 года назад

@@davisworth5114 And leads to cardiovascular disease.

@Lethargie55 2 года назад

@@davisworth5114 agree

@SlightIyVicious 8 лет назад

I am a twelve year veteran of the US Marine Corps with multiple combat deployments. I suffer from mild PTSD and I was so happy to see you address this subject. I sometimes think people think this is a new phenomenon. my only explanation for this is that because it is such a horrible thing, not only for us to suffer from it, but to the society who is constantly reminded of what their political actions have reaped. I myself do not have as serve a case as many of my friends although I am no longer a fan of the 4th of July and fireworks. But I am getting better. I hope that the rest of society can recognise and approach the subject with the same patience and understanding you have shown in this episode.

@stefanomaccarone4637 8 лет назад

+Scott Trujillo Hey, thanks a lot for sharing that. Have a great life.

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

+Scott Trujillo Thanks for sharing and all the best for your future and that of your friends.

@thicctony6236 6 лет назад

Hey do you have Vietnam flashbacks

@jorgerivera5464 6 лет назад

Scott Trujillo i

@Eirik36 6 лет назад

Scott Trujillo rahh what unit were you with?

@Tommy-dz3do 8 лет назад

Your channel as being booming with the realese of battlefield 1 trailer...your videos are very well made and interesting.

@501lilspoon 8 лет назад

really

@LeeEverett1 5 лет назад

Fun fact: The Great War actually helped make the Codex entries in Battlefield 1.

@opperbuil 8 лет назад

Great work, Indy! After 1 1/2 years of Great War videos, you still get even better.

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

+Opperbuil .NL Thanks.

@acuerdox 8 лет назад

+The Great War when all of this is finished. You should see to it that the whole of it can be bought virtually and physically. So as to preserve it for posterity. Engaging education, such us this one, is very important.

@dgunn4408 8 лет назад

+The Great War Agreed. This is hands down the best and most accessible delivery of WWI history I've encountered in three decades of life. It's also one of my favourite channels on RU-vid. Keep it up, man!

@six2make4 5 лет назад

I remember reading this book a long time ago, apparently it's a real biography of this Austro-Hungarian soldier, he talks about how his captain got his two or three only sons in the war with him. All the sons die, the captain acts like nothing has happened, the soldier writing the book remarks that he didn't think it was because the man didn't care about his sons, it was because he was a great leader who couldn't let morale drop. This should be obvious, but that's kinda when it really hit me, why officers may come out really fucked up.

@davisworth5114 4 года назад

Read Karl Marlantes .

@Ohnoitsthatguy-620 4 года назад

"three assumptions about personal invulnerability were shattered: the world as meaningful, as comprehensible, and seeing oneslef in a positive light" 100 years later and veterans still feel this.

@kyleissoco 8 лет назад

War.... War is hell.... And hell is war. God bless all veterans. And all soldiers.

@mguangang2239 6 лет назад

Amen

@acidplatypus5270 6 лет назад

Kyle Short except terrorists...and militants...and militaries that serve under a corrupt goverment

@raphaelsmithwick4363 5 лет назад

US is corrupt...

@sosteve9113 4 года назад

Amen to that

@abuddyofmine2524 3 года назад

@@raphaelsmithwick4363 what makes you say that

@Silky4ever 8 лет назад

I had seizures when I came home from Afghanistan, there was no neurological signs, it eventually went away. I was told it was mental not physical. This makes total sense that I went through what every soldier has went throughout the years.

@mjinnh2112 8 лет назад

+Dylan Galland Debate about whether it is "physical" or "mental" is still very much going on. Either way, it is very real--even if it does go away.

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

+Dylan Galland Thanks for sharing.

@codiemiddaugh4193 4 года назад

The Afghan was is a total joke lmao

@codiemiddaugh4193 4 года назад

War

@mojewjewjew4420 3 года назад

@@codiemiddaugh4193 This aged well

@Mars_junior 8 лет назад

I can't help but shed tears for these men. Hero's with the strongest will, broken by an unknown fire from the skies. I watched my police officer father become debilitated by an awful cancer and the effects of having a strong will but a mind and body that cannot keep up eat at the heart and soul.

@halo3elite508 5 лет назад

With all do respect but if I saw that moder fking walking on a dark corridor at 3am I would run tf away The guy at 0:41

@mr.pavone9719 4 года назад

Huh, seems like those so willing to toss men's lives into war have always been unwilling to compensate those men for their wounds. Why do we keep putting up with that?

@hidof9598 4 года назад

This world.Our leaders and people are all wrong leading up to terrible string of things

@joemurphy9549 3 года назад

Very well said. The same is true of the Australian military system. Men’s robust and Lantern jawed masculinity is sought after and greatly appreciated and rewarded. But when men are injured physically or psychologically they somehow lose the status of being valuable men. Why? Because I need and want more human or sensitive attributes like care, support, affection, listening and so on. The Australian military treat such men as failures

@DaFifaKid 3 года назад

war pigs by black sabbath is too accurate.

@Ralleigh 3 года назад

iT cOsTs tOo mUcH

@Abhishek-sr2pu 3 года назад

@@joemurphy9549 maybe because according to them men only worth is fighting war for women and children back home? Quite a primitive thinking.

@_lambert_1785 8 лет назад

One of my relatives got shell shock in the first world war when he was buried alive by a shell. He was luckily found but because of internal organ injuries he was told that he would only live to 25 or so, despite this he lived to the ripe old age of 70. He still had shell shock though which caused him to have nightmares and he would wake up screaming because of this.

@MrTigerlore 8 лет назад

Shell shock is when your brain says, "fuck this shit," and checks out from reality. Not that complicated to understand when you think about being in WW1.

@Noorthia 3 года назад

Please don't make a comment like this and pass it off as fact, when it in actuality has nothing to do with the real cause.

@xeon010 3 года назад

@@Noorthia wym?

@Hannibalkakihara 3 года назад

The human brain is not as oversimplistic as you or people like to think it is. Maybe for you. But theres far more to this. What do you think your explanation brings to the table?

@MrTigerlore 3 года назад

@@Hannibalkakihara well... we’re discussing it, aren’t we? So I guess bringing people to the table is what I brought to the table.

@Hannibalkakihara 3 года назад

@@MrTigerlore you made a statement with your opinion. Not an insighful one either. Not really a discussion

@proxel96 8 лет назад

As a psychology student I found this episode very intresting. Although I do with all of this channels content. Thanks guys!

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

+Proxel Thanks!

@greenlaw6503 8 лет назад

+The Great War "should be a an entire documentary series in itself"

@bdiraa 8 лет назад

+greenlaw well i mean, this channel goes through it week by week as it happened 100 years ago so... I doubt there anything more detailed than that... lol

@jaxone2639 8 лет назад

same here. I was just doing research on the history of ptsd when this came out

@calebdehart6651 6 лет назад

It's weird how my friends that came home with physical injuries seemed better psychologically than those of us that were just emotionally scarred.

@antoinelachapelle3405 Год назад

Survivor's guilt maybe ? You're home in one piece while others are dead / crippled, it takes its toll

@johndicus123 Год назад

@@antoinelachapelle3405 perhaps also the thought that the physically injured are recognized as having been injured. The mental issue is not properly recognized still by most people, this compounds the issue.

@Aster_Risk Год назад

@@antoinelachapelle3405 Also, it might be easier to deal with a tangible physical injury that you can see and feel and know there's a treatment for in some way. As a person with mental illness, it's frustrating to always feel like the treatment attempts are a shot in the dark.

@seanmccuen6970 7 месяцев назад

@@Aster_Risk I too deal with chronic (and rather 'severe') mental illness. I think you're probably spot-on here. best of luck to you.

@preest_nz 5 лет назад

Imagine seeing people’s limbs blown off their bodies, blood and entrails everywhere, people constantly dying in horrific fashion everyday. Everyone has a breaking point, the human mind can only handle so much.

@tomcat-ek3bh 8 лет назад

Oh look, Italy has found yet another way to keep men at the front. What a surprise. Who else but Cadorna?

@biscoito1r 8 лет назад

+tomcat912 I bet the Italians had the best c-rations :P.

@Inktpleurer 7 лет назад

tomcat912 i

@wilso5452 6 лет назад

tomcat912 qa

@DrummersHell96 8 лет назад

As a Medical student, I've been waiting for this topic! Please, do more episodes on what life was like in a field hospitals, Front lines etc. Great episode :D

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

+Mass Percussion We will

@colinkelly5420 8 лет назад

+Mass Percussion If you want an excellent book on the subject, I'd recommend "Wounded: A New History of the Western Front in World War I" by Emily Mayhew.

@DrummersHell96 8 лет назад

+Colin Kelly Thank you, I'll be sure the check it out +The Great War Cool!

@richardbriley8072 8 лет назад

WW1 Has only been briefly mentioned in any of my history classes from elementary until now. And with the release of Battlefield 1 soon (which I intend to get)my interest definitely has grown. this was a really well made video and was very informative. I'll be sure to subscribe so I can come back and watch the rest of your videos.

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

Welcome to our show.

@jackwong8393 8 лет назад

+The Great War great vid

@ozzyjames87 8 лет назад

+The Great War All of those "treatments" reeked of the quackery found in the insane asylums of that time period.

@stevenmtaylor21 8 лет назад

+ozzyjames87 the history of psychology and therapy has a really dark history. The relatively good care of people now with issues is actually a recent thing.

@IdesofMarch223 8 лет назад

I'd say it is a good thing, sad yes, but I'm glad a game like Battlefield 1 brings attention to a war almost forgotten by many today

@bobhayett2376 6 лет назад

One of my friends when I was young had a father who was a bombardier in WII over Germany. The bombers were constantly attacked by German fighter planes and flack guns. My friend's father had nightmares and would often yell in his sleep about the German attacks. Stress in war goes well beyond what some men can endure without some level of permanent damage.

@mrfugazi6713 3 года назад

Back in 1982 I spent some time in hospital and I met a older man who was suffering from shell shock, believe me when I say this, shell shock is a terrible thing to go through I had many chats with him he was a really nice man and to think that in the First World War he would of been shot for being a coward, it was disgraceful to even think to shoot those poor boys.

@christopherwilliams7845 8 лет назад

Here's a question for out of the Trenches: What were the lives of the Slavs in the Russian Empire like under German occupation?

@timdewit6088 8 лет назад

+Kaiser Chris Perhaps they'll go into that a bit more when we enter 1917, and the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk gets signed.

@Teebs131 8 лет назад

+Kaiser Chris Would the Polish be considered slavs? if not it should include them too.

@timdewit6088 8 лет назад

Teebs131 Poles are Slavs to be sure.

@christopherwilliams7845 8 лет назад

+Teebs131 Poles are considered to be Western Slavs like the Czechs, Slovaks, Bosnians, Serbs. That's why many Polish people were killed in the Holocaust even though a majority weren't Jewish.

@sergioandresbenitezhernand2542 7 лет назад

Slavs? They were squatting and dancing hardbass like if there was no tomorrow.

@aaronwest1055 8 лет назад

I never knew there were symptoms beyond the psychological, thank you very much for making this video and informing folks. As always, you're doing a fantastic job.

@xcesar4impx666 7 лет назад

Iam an Afghanistan U.S . Vet. OEF.2008-10. infantryman 82nd airborne. and this video. means alot to me. thank you. comming home was very hard , and alot of the things mention here are very true. in combat we are all not afraid but , we are all clenching at the anticipation of the blast from the IED. or the sniper shot. or you're eyes moving everywhere without missing a tiny detail. a detail that can cause your or the rest of the guys in the Humve .their lives , but the one thing that keeps you bonded and not fully afraid is the thought that your not alone and that your are amongst brothers that will give their lives for yours and yours for their. thank you for a very educational video . that unless your a train Dr.or a combat veteran. you will never know what's like to come home with your duffle bag with a few demons.

@wendysw714 5 лет назад

Thank you so much for your service. I hope you are doing well.

@sirandrelefaedelinoge 4 года назад

Thank you for serving. I suffer from CPTSD too. I hope you get the treatment you need. Be well...

@kananpreetkaur3485 4 года назад

thk u so much for your service

@berzerker1100 4 года назад

AIRBORNE & Geronimo ! 🇺🇸🎺🥁

@prixred80 4 года назад

Thank you very much for your service and I hope you are doing better.

@suzannakoizumi8605 4 года назад

My father was in WWI. He fought in the US Army all across France. Most of his fellow soldiers in his NY 14th engineers did not make it unscathed. But was told that he

@suzannakoizumi8605 4 года назад

I was told that he was shell shocked.

@youknow227 11 месяцев назад

@@suzannakoizumi8605How old are you???

@melvinhii3698 4 года назад

"War is just old people arguing and young men dying."

@attilarischt2851 8 лет назад

What about Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans? Or Serbia or Belgium? Didn't find research, or would just take too much time?

@pengu146 8 лет назад

+Attila Rischt Do not take this as fact as I am just inferring this information. The Serbians towards the end of the war had issues dealing with their wounded due to the disarray that the logistics were in due to constant advances by the Austrians and Germans, so my guess is that they would have either been left where they were like many of the wounded had to be, or possibly shot due to "cowardice".

@opuser1 8 лет назад

On the Hungarian side: I remember my grandfather talk about his father. He got no treatment or compensation. He could not move his right arm; which looked as if he was still holding his rifle with an index ready to pull the trigger. In the small town that he lived in he was among the few who returned home, and almost the only one with all limbs intact and was ridiculed and called a coward. He just could not deal with the stuff he had seen and hung himself in the woods.

@mikemike6908 8 лет назад

+opuser thats terrible. I remember hearing about my great grandfather as well (hungarian) who when returned to his town from a Siberian prison camp he crawled the rest of the way with his hand out as if to grab the doorknob as the whole town just watched

@lowqualityshitposts8860 8 лет назад

Damn autocorrect

@saxon215 8 лет назад

+opuser Wow that's really horrific, thanks for sharing

@maracaibostar 8 лет назад

For the Italian viewers: there's a great documentary about the shell shock. It's called "Scemi di guerra ". About 45 minutes long, worth viewing

@captainandthelady 8 лет назад

My son has PTSD from the first Gulf War. Not as bad as shown here thank goodness. He has it under control now but knows that it's just under the surface and leads his life accordingly. If you get a chance, watch George Carlin's routine about shell shock.

@uegvdczuVF 8 лет назад

+captainandthelady LOL thanks for the tip, i loved his stand ups but i somehow missed that bit. btw when i got back home i used to sleep in my military sleeping bag on the floor next to my bed for almost a full year...

@arthurc1971 6 лет назад

uegvdczuVF I know this is old but wanted to share...when I came home I slept outside in my sleeping bag. My parents thought I was insane.

@TheTrueMattiMan 5 лет назад

@@uegvdczuVF "LOL"

@hovanti 5 лет назад

I was there, too; I wish your son all the best.

@thecardoski 6 лет назад

My great-grandfather lost his leg in the 2nd Boar War but lost his mind in the 1st world war. Died 8 years after it when he had enough.

@Kinglorrecom 8 лет назад

The Great War going beyond the tour of duty again to bring us all aspects of the War. Gud'job gents!

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

+Kinglorre Thanks

@Kinglorrecom 8 лет назад

I'd like to thank you too Flo. :P

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

Kinglorre Haha! Thank you.

@philipians1635 8 лет назад

makes me sad "The impact of these recurrent traumatic dreams and fragmented sleep, which are today recognized symptoms of PTSD, devastated even the great Achilles."

@samcocking6523 8 лет назад

My Great great grandfather went to France and came back shellshocked

@dingowendingo7572 7 лет назад

Sam Cocking my great grand fathers relative, i think it was his cousin, was forced to join the US army in ww2 and he was never heard from since he left, he died in war

@erenjeager5290 7 лет назад

Sam Cocking i don't kno how to say this but I'm sorry to hear that

@chornethefirstborn1768 6 лет назад

My Great-Uncle went to Vietnam and came back seemingly normal. He was unscarred, was making jokes, playing with his kid etc. He taught my mom to drive. Then, one day, while his wife was out and his son was at school, he hung himself in the house. The discovery REALLY screwed my uncle up when he came home. (first cousin once removed, technically, but who cares.) Turns out he had survivor's guilt. He didn't want to stress our family out so he simply decided to go quietly enough and leave a note.

@thevacuumtubejunky9774 6 лет назад

Sam Cocking : My Grandfather went to France as well, but he never returned.

@philgiglio7922 3 года назад

A careful reading of the Odessy shows clear descriptions of what we today call PTSD...shell shock. It's not a new malady or unrecognized

@raghavnegi6932 4 года назад

No one wins the war, you just survive it.

@bloinkf2 8 лет назад

"In Russia they were quite forward thinking". Now that's not something you hear everyday.

@oscarvargas6984 8 лет назад

+bloinkf2 very

@MrDeath5300 6 лет назад

bloinkf2 ....until the Bolsheviks, okey now back to normal, thanks communism

@sotis1756 6 лет назад

When the vodka was out

@vitornicko 6 лет назад

This was, probably, one of the very few areas of the Russian absolutist empire that were progressive at those days. We can not forget that under the Czar, the women - as an example - had their lives owned by their husbands (seriously, in a marriage the men were allowed to kill their women if they were not obeying the social conservative standards of the religious absolutism of the time). Also, more than 90% of the population were iliterate, all those scars of a typycal XVIII century State/society relations that stil survived during the first years of the XX century were wiped out by the bolshevics, and USSR became a superpower with great economical improves, together with universal and free healthcare and education. Quite an advance. The Czar had it's deserved fate.

@kronos77 5 лет назад

Russia was actually more "progressive", that is modern, than perhaps any other country. The lies about Russia being backward in this point in history are lies started by the Bolsheviks. Russia was ahead of the west culturally in so many ways. The population was actually more literate than in Germany.

@rogeriusrex1 8 лет назад

This is a passage from WWII RAF intelligence officer J. L. Carr's A Month in the Country about one Great War veteran recognizing shell shock in a fellow veteran: "What befell you Over There to give you that God-awful twitch? Are you here to try to crawl back into the skin you had before they pushed you through the mincer?" Robert Graves, in his WWI memoir Goodbye to All That, describes similar effects in himself. And Director John Huston made this film Let There Be Light about the psychological effects during WWII: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7BZeA-tmDac.html

@TheGreatWar 8 лет назад

Thanks for sharing.

@rorylabine7143 7 лет назад

I'm super interested in this channel now that Battlefield 1 is out.

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

And you are not the only one.

@freakgurung8299 7 лет назад

Rory LaBine so true i am also so interested in these after bf1

@martinschou5351 7 лет назад

Is there any data on any of these treatments? I mean, todays doctors and psycologist are still struggling to treat PTSD - I'm just curios whether they actually had succes with any of these treatments? I'm especially thinking of the German solution in terms of labor-force. I could see how a secure and predictable enviroment could have helped these veterans...

@kimberlyparrish7522 5 лет назад

I saw a short film on this at high school, many years ago. And to this day, I will never forget it. Every student cried and when the bell rang, not one word was spoken. That day we saw what war really was and whats evils of the world really were.

@u-shanks4915 2 года назад

What was the short film?

@kimberlyparrish7522 2 года назад

@@u-shanks4915 Sorry it was 1985.. lord knows i wish i could remember the name.

@u-shanks4915 2 года назад

@@kimberlyparrish7522 May you at least describe the scenes Any connections with the old teacher?

@mohammedisaa9952 Год назад

@U-Shanks ..... dont go digging, she dosent want to talk about it, and she gave you a polite "brush off", ofcourse she remembers, how could one forget? i watched threads as a teenager and ive never forgotten about it...... Please have alittle respect for someone older than yourself.

@1Nova_Nova1 Год назад

May i have a link?

@Morisu-Chan 2 года назад

I still can't believe how even tho they had shell shock and was suffering, many people still looked at them as cowards.

@debraleesparks 7 лет назад

My father was hurt, at Omaha beach, w.w.11... He spent the rest of his life in and out of State Army hospitals, and had electroshock therapy three times... he tried to kill my mom, and us kids when he had flashbacks.. so, it’s not just the solders who suffer from shell shock.I’m almost 62 now, and still feel bad about not having a sane father, my whole life because of the war.

@UnsounderGnome 8 лет назад

One of the scariest things about World War 1. Glad you did a special on it.

@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer 8 лет назад

Nice to see even 100 years ago that governments always had money for war, but always questioned how to pay for taking care of it's citizens. :/ I remember actually asking about a video on Shell Shock awhile ago and some of those videos you showed were, unnerving to say the least.

@HeatherSpoonheim 8 лет назад

+Jeremy Meadows The US learned very accurately from Vietnam that for every dollar spent on war, 2 dollars was required to care for damaged soldiers (physical therapy, re-integration counselling). Not that they ever spent those 2 dollars, but they understood perfectly well what the true indemnity was. I have a young American friend who decided to sign up. He suffered a significant spinal injury (not in battle, but 'on the job'). He accepted his honorable discharge and some amount of 'compensation' - but now cannot get ongoing support from the VA. Very very dirty, if you ask me.

@RobCamp-rmc_0 8 лет назад

I am a research scientist studying underlying causes of PTSD and potential early interventions or treatments. The head of my lab was recently at a meeting with the Department of Defense with other researchers to discuss current progress in our studies. I'll preface the following to say that I understand that budgetary decisions aren't made by a single, monolithic body within the Department, but still: Potential treatments, even if they are promising, will not be accepted if they are "too costly". Let me repeat that: they are unwilling to accept a treatment if it isn't cheap enough, *even if it is effective*. Now, have a look at the F-35 Lightning II Joint Strike Fighter. You may already know about this, but just in case: this is a project that has been loaded with design flaws, all kinds of problems from the pilot controls to the gear that pilots wear, from its logistics computers and software to its very ability to fly. In a hilariously ironic twist, some of its flaws make it more vulnerable to its very namesake, lightning. This thing has been in development for going on twenty years, and it isn't even out of testing; it's years behind schedule and billions over budget. The cost of the program: 1.5 *trillion* dollars, well over half a billion for each unit over its lifespan. Once more for posterity: no treatment for PTSD is effective enough to be approved if it isn't cheap enough. We love to make toys of destruction, and we'll pay top dollar for it. Some of these toys we make are men. We'll have a hell of time playing with them, but we sure don't want to fix them when they break.

@jockellis 8 лет назад

+Rob Camp I remember a film we watched in an undergrad psych class of WE II combat pilots being questioned on the controls of their planes. Nothing on RU-vid is as foul as the language they used to describe the impossible to differentiate controls during battle and the engineers who designed them.

@thevacuumtubejunky9774 6 лет назад

J M : Sadly the Government's train of thought hasn't changed a bit.

@umbertomantoni 5 лет назад

Here in Italy, the way to say someone it was shellshocked was: “Scemo di guerra”. That translates to “war idiot”. Kinda petty isn’t it?

@markhodge5006 Год назад

My dad fought in Korea and one of the Frozen Chosen, where a lot of US soldiers died from the cold. I remember as a young boy, that he'd have nightmares, yelled, talked and cried in his sleep. He always had to be doing something and he hardly ever sat down and relaxed. So sad 😞

@YYaMataSula 8 лет назад

Yep, when I was a kid and asked about my ancestors who fought in WW1 and WW2 my grand-grandpa's case intrigued me the most as all my relatives were telling me that after the war, for many years he could barely walk or speak, after some time I realised that he actually had shellshock! Interesting is that he did cured and he even became mayor of the village in wich he was born. He also been decorated and received land from the King Ferdinand of Romania. Some peoples with whom I had the luck to speak told me about all those intense artillery shellings and how the battlefield sounded like. What struck fear into soldier's heart was the sound of the enemy or friendly artillery, way before the shell falls you hear first a strong sound like if, imagine you beat into your wall with your fist or when your neighbour from above you hits his floor, it's a "Doom, doom" sound but you feel it into your chest and your blood in your pelvis gets very cold...Now multiply this as some artillery shellings went in some cases non-stop.. This is what mostly caused shellshocks, not the shell's explosion how many would think. It's that frightening moment when you hear enemy arty starting to hammer the skies with their sounds because u know u basicaly wait for death to land in few seconds near your or right on you... You can also go check clips filmed in Ukraine or Syria there's lots of shellings going on there to get an ideea... And if u ask me about WW1...it was a war between cousins and I really hope this wont happen again. It was an useless war. :( RIP.

@MeMightyLeper 8 лет назад

We pretend things have changed in the modern day - I have lived my whole life with chronic depression and insomnia, and my experience has been: if you have tons of money, you can pay ignorant and arrogant people to uselessly speculate for you; if you don't have money, you have no choice but to pretend you don't have it, the best you can. The abandonment of those men was shameless, as is its continuance today - it is bad enough that you force them to kill each other, without breaking them and throwing them in the gutter.

@steve5825 3 года назад

As a child I never understood my grandfather‘s odd behaviour. Many, many years later talking with my now elderly father our conversation turned to my grandfather. My dad’s eyes started to well up and told me that although his dad survived the war (WWI) without physical injury he was still a casualty of it. He said he had undergone electric shock treatment, as he was suffering from shell shock. We, who never experienced the horror these men went through, can never truly grasp the effect it could have not just on the mind but the body also. So many lives wrecked directly and indirectly by the most ugly facet of humanity.

@KP-ej7gc 5 лет назад

I went through something very traumatic that lasted 24/7 for a month and a half. I was temporarily left with PTSD. People don’t realize that PTSD isn’t just flashbacks. It’s extremely physical in nature. The way it effected my body was far worse than any flashback, in my opinion. About a year later, I started dying. I had thyroiditis, and the symptoms were so bad that I nearly had a heart attack before being put on meds for my thyroid. I had debilitating tremors. I was so physically sick that I couldn’t work for 6 months. Thankfully I’m fine now, though whenever I experience stress I still get debilitating tremors. I experienced that trauma at age 20 and was diagnosed with thyroiditis at age 21. I am a 22 year old woman now. So when you mention the cardiac issues after experiencing war, understand that trauma and PTSD often lead to disease in the body such as thyroiditis that will end in a fatal heart attack without medication. You may survive the trauma, but will your body survive the aftermath?

@applejuice9468 8 месяцев назад

i'm so sorry. Thank you for educating through sharing this

@murraybartlett4571 Год назад

I watched a documentary series on the great war not long ago. One of the saddest stories was of one soldier, he had gotten disoriented and seperated from his group. He was found lost and confused, The Officer in charge of the group that found him. Had the soldier shot for cowardice.

@MartoLun 8 лет назад

I'm really disturbed by the thought that many of the disabled people Nazi Germany exterminated may have been people suffering from this condition since their youth in the army...

@DivePlane13 8 лет назад

If they were disabled from the war in any way, like your leg got blown off or something they didn't just kill them. as long as they could still do some sort of mental work you weren't "exterminated" and veterans of the war were valued highly in Nazi Germany

@will2Collett 8 лет назад

My Grand father fought at Ypres, he rarely talked about his experience, but I could always tell that it was an experience no one can describe. These video's show much of the real brutallity of that war.

@Jack-M1951 5 лет назад

Same. Mine I think lied about his age. He fell at Ypres.

@stephenfennell7502 3 года назад

As a man dealing with PTSD I even now cannot imagine the horrors and insanity of the great war. Thanks for bringing up the genesis of it all and how we all are wounded by conflict.

@aliasunknown7476 2 года назад

I have PTSD and the repetitive concussion shockwaves that hit your head during a motar attack regardless of if your in the killzone is mentally debilitating and has caused me to have what I call Shell Shock Headaches. These headaches render me immediately combat ineffective and I left the army 15years ago.

@Artemis49 Год назад

I’ve always wondered how shell shock differs from PTSD. The early WWI footage of soldiers shaking uncontrollably is haunting. Although still traumatically scarred, soldiers from other wars didn’t seem to exhibit that shaking.

@zzbudzz Год назад

I believe very few soldiers experienced such massive artillery bombardment as soldiers of WW1 . The Ukrainians might be getting a taste of WW1 artillery effects right now.

@chrisreynolds6143 Год назад

There are a lot of things that are different about WWI that could contribute honestly. Very lackluster troop rotation led to many being on the front lines for years non-stop and being subjected to constant concussive barrages could have had large affects on the nervous system. I think that's the prevailing theory at least. There's also a correlation to the extreme shell shock we're referencing and soldiers being buried by shells, I can't remember where I read it but I can try and find it if you'd like. I often wondered if it were something like 'sea legs' where the body and brain get used to standing and walking on a constantly moving plane and when that motion is removed there's a bit of lag with the equilibrium and body still correcting. In this instance it could be the constant shaking of the ground as well as exposure to a plethora of psychological trauma. It's a very interesting albeit sad thing to try and figure out.

@petemiller2598 9 месяцев назад

@@zzbudzz Spot on. Nothing has compared to the infamous 'creeping barrage' of artillery in WWI battles like the Somme and Verdun, either before or since WWI. During WWI, the modern industrial base to manufacture shells, paired with lack of air power to degrade artillery, meant that it was a "perfect storm" to have these artillery barrages that could and did go on for *days* without even a minute's interruption.

@Jack-uc8mx 7 лет назад

Thank you so much! I have to write a synthesis essay where we get to explore a topic of our choice and I chose the psychological effects of war on the soldier. The funny thing is I just saw this video in my recommended without even searching anything up! I am definitely referencing you in my paper. I watched this video and now I can't stop watching your vids! I love your videos and I can't wait to see the new content!

@TheGreatWar 7 лет назад

Welcome to the show.

@airborneshodan 8 лет назад

As a PSTD casualty of the war on terror, it is amazing how similar things are today.

@PeteOfDarkness 8 лет назад

Incredible video. On related note, I've learned (as part of my university course I'm taking Animal Production right now) recently that intense stress can cause real injuries very quickly. For example in pork production (and all animal products, even wool and milk) one of crucial thing is keeping your stock "happy", even right before slaughter (this is provided by stunning animals before slitting their throats, either by electrocuting them one by one or gassing with CO2) - stress put on animal can damage meat in mere minutes, changing firm, red, juicy meat into whitish, watery sponge. In case of milk cows, it may cause udder infections and spoiling milk with somatic cells. Apparently how animals are affected by stress is related to genetics (ie. your body chemistry when put under stress), with animal breeders trying to make animals less susceptible to stress. Even slight amount of fear, tiredness and constant discomfort can erode man over time, and prolonged war in the trenches had no shortage of either.

@lorenawr5582 6 лет назад

Piotr Grzelak Thank you for that insight. It amazes me how much our bodies are suseptible to so many factors. Your comment made that evidence even more substantial.

@lucialuppi5402 5 лет назад

And I do not regret going vegan!

@benwinter2420 5 лет назад

Lived out int the rural area for many years & had a neighbour who kept chickens . . when cutting the head off of one for the pot , one its buddies witnessed it & sent it mad . . it turned the poor thing into a permanent roadrunner & every day it would sprint about at random , be sitting at his table & it would sprint in . . do a lap & out the door .

@davisworth5114 4 года назад

"The body keeps score".

@EngPheniks Год назад

What is even more horrible to know is that once soldiers who are victims of shell shock are fully recovered, the government sends them back to the front.

@gerardwilkie3650 3 года назад

Craiglockhart hospital in Edinburgh was full of officers suffering from shell shock during the great war.....Wilfred Owen and Siegfried Sassoon being just two. Both poets wrote against the the horror and stupidly of the war...both were decorated with the military cross for bravery....Many men developed speech inpedements ...The authorities didn't know how to deal with officers ,well educated decorated men whom developed shell shock..They couldn't just brand them as cowards .... Following the end of the war it wasn't uncommon for many men to throw themselves into the ground if a car back fired .There was a few cases in Glasgow when a car back fired and half the men were found cowering on the ground.

@ThomasHaberkorn 8 лет назад

Is the storyline of the movie "Paths of Glory" by Stanley Kubrick realistic, where shell shock is portrayed to be cowardness by the top brass?

@cisco3111 8 лет назад

yes

@Unwilledduck 8 лет назад

+Cisco Blue Lol, your picture is from shogun 2 total war FoTS

@cisco3111 8 лет назад

Unwilledduck I know that.

@PotNanny 8 лет назад

One of the best episodes indeed. Those assumptions at 9:04 are a bone chilling reminder of our own "sense of self" and how vulnerable we really are. Makes me think...

@WhiteWolfLIT 8 лет назад

+Lucas I butts

@shamanplaysgames1793 7 лет назад

When you return from present-day war, they sit you down with a psychologist. He asks you "What did you do?" "What have you seen?" "Is there anything you struggle with?". After that, its up to yourself to notice. It can set in weeks, months, years, decades after you return. These casualties still exist in the hundreds of thousands today, and do not get the respect and care they deserve. Here's to you,fellow veterans all over. Thank you.

@kaziiqbal7257 5 лет назад

The analytical treatment mentioned at 4:08 is actually called psychoanalytic treatment and the talk therapy is part of it (although talk therapy is also utilized in humanistic treatments). Your descriptions for both were accurate.

@robert.257 Год назад

It's hard to imagine, you have been in your trench for hours listening to shells exploring all around you. Then you hear a officer's whistle to go over the top. My papa fought with the Gordon Highlanders in WW1. He joined right away he was 15.