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Indeed. Especially in Chernobyl its clearly obvious.

@@Jargolf86 and lane pryce in mad men

When I read sherlock holmes again he is the only one that comes to mind when reading about Moriarty

Amen to that. He's a helluva actor. Mast of the art!

He was awesome in The Devil’s Violinist, as Urbani, the Mephistopheles to Paganini’s Faust.

Now that you mentioned it, wow, very astute observation

You are talking about the dishonourably discharged Marksman-Colonel?

He is better than Watson technically.

@@omniartist8297 combat wise, yes. But watson is also an army doctor

The Doctor Watson was also a healer in the Army, while Colonel Moran was a killer. If they had shown a Sherlock Holmes 1.5 I'd expect Moriarty to be hiring Moran in response to seeing Holmes being aided by Watson. 1.5 would have also shown Sherlock initially seeing multiple smaller criminal networks, and towards the end realizing that Professor Moriarty is linked to and controlling all of them

In the short story “The Final Problem” Sherlock explains to Watson that Moriarty had been a Professor but that he lost that position after a scandal that probably was criminal in nature. I’m glad we get to see him as a Professor as well, because in this version Moriarty shows by his air of respectability that he is infinitely more dangerous.

In elementary the guy who took over for Moriarty was a professor.

The moriarty the patriot he's a professor and u see him teaching his students

The whole point is that for Moriarty it is just a fancy title, which he uses to hide behind as a cover for his true nature. Sherlock notices this particularly when he see a "domestic horticulture" book next to the chalk followed by a completely dead and neglected potted plant.

​​@@brianbommarito3376 Agreed. For all of Eric Porter's wonderful portrayal of Moriarty in the 80s series, my only complaint about it was that he wasn't subtle about it. His expressions, his tone of voice. His posture & movements, his overall conduct. You could spot him from a mile away. It was totally obvious that he was a nefarious person, with nefarious intentions. Like a Lion walking towards it's prey. Dead sure of itself. In this movie, it is _nowhere_ *near* that obvious. Jared was infinitely more subtle & lowkey about it. Increasingly quiet in his voice, and and an ever-so-slight drop in his expressions. Like a tiger crouching in the grass. Tensing up, should it need to strike. Plus his title "Professor" now holds a purpose. So much better imo.

He played a simialr role in Fringe series

Worst was in the british series

@@whateveausaid He was a unique take on the character for sure!

@@whateveausaid Andrew Scott was great!

​@@MrPolicekarim he wasnt a unique take. He was a done-to-death, Joker type villain. Horrible butchering of the character.

Sounds like grindelwald. :The elephant is too large to notice the mice plotting his death."

Very astute observation

That's why sherlock holmes described him as a narcissist

@@kunalmachra They're both narcissists.

I think he invited holmes for that purpose. He hoped holmes would connect the dots from his observations. He nor Sherlock held no certainty that either would end up on top. It really should have been a draw. Considering sherlocks injuries it is unlikely he would have survived that fall, but audiences recoil at sad endings.

yes

They mentioned that the movie was already in development since 2018 if I remember correctly. Anyways, I can't wait :D

They are currently shooting the movie

Well last Saturday I watched it and I love it 😍

@@glennappiah5230 ......but its not out yet.....

Do you really want a Sherlock 3 with the trends dominating Hollywood now? A "woke" Sherlock would be different. And not really for the better.

@BullseyeBullsclaw Trouble is a lot of the time you cant tell from reviews. Mindhunter for instance is an excellent story. But the female psychologist is so sjw it almost makes the thing unwatchable. Or the latest season of Ozark. For me the most annoying part isnt the overt insults but rather the subtle psychological messages of hatred. They are not outright said.. Oh no. They are implied through character interactions ruining the stories for me. Because I know it is intentional. It happens too often to be random. Films before 16 dont have such things. Even when I saw them occasionally I wasnt insulted because I could tell it was accidental. But now.... Jesus. Herr Goebbels would be very impressed with Hollywood's skill in propaganda.

The Netflix series with bennedit cumberbach is a lot more relatable and interesting to me

@@nikosgreek352 do you think Guy Ritchie would bend over for those agendas and not make the movie he wants to make?🤔

@@evanabbott2737The pc block enjoys immense power in the filmmaking community and their influence is only growing. Especially after the left secured full power in the american congress. Up until now men like Richie have had enough clout to ignore them but for how much longer? The pc coalition will not be satisfied until they control all aspects of mainstream media and culture. Recently the Oscar committee decided no film could get an Oscar unless it satisfied certain diversity quotas. What does that tell you? Perhaps it is time for a schism in Hollywood.

That's what makes this movie so great. Wished we saw more of them!

The Comedy Bros same, this scene and the chess scene are the only 2 that show Holmes and Moriarty interacting this way

They have to. In Moriarty's case they're in a public setting and he can't afford to act out of the ordinary, especially considering he's the "control the strings" type of guy. In Holme's case he doesn't have any proof to convince anyone of Moriarty's actions should he try to apprehend him and cause a ruckus. Anything he might try would only see him banned from the college and it'd be difficult to for him to approach him again. But I assure you they want to blow each other's brains out.

@@LuciusVulpes I 100% agree, Moriarty is in complete control during this scene. And he wants Holmes to witness the consequences of his actions by interfering with his plans. Plus just like he’s says, he has high respect for him, and it’s because of that reason and that reason alone, that Holmes is still alive.

@Meta Man I couldn’t have said it better myself

There is an even better moriarty than this one now.. Moriarty the Patriot! Waiting so eagerly for season 2 of that anime 😍

So much yes! The ''Sherlock'' Moriarty is like a sunday morning cartoon villain, he's so over the top the character became a caricature.

This is the first time I've seen someone like Jared better than Andrew.

@National Socialism I've never seen anyone pick Jared over Andrew. Although I prefer Jared too. Andrew's version was more like the joker lol, I never imagined Moriarty that way, although Andrew was still brilliant

@National Socialism I don't think it did remove the camaraderie, what hurt the relationship for me was them making Watson the near equal to Holmes. Watson is the audiences proxy, there to be as astounded at how Holmes works things out as we are. When Watson no longer provides that then there is no longer as need for Watson. But you are right about Moriarty. It was a nice twist to combine the two people who were the equal to Holmes. Such a shame that Natalie Dormer wasn't available to appear in the show more often.

For this reason, in my mind, he is the best villain ever put onto the film screen. As well, Jared Harris' perfect performance makes this the best movie ever made in my opinion.

All the while Sherlock tries to get under his skin, his subtle face twitch just unnervingly show his savage side to the gentleman mask that he's wearing. It just adds the extra layer of how unhinged he really is underneath it all.

@@quantumplutonian6414 ...you must be quite young

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That's why it's kinda cheap of the script on how Sherlock defeated Moriarty. Why is he having the book he uses for code on his secret notes lying around when he invited Sherlock? The Moriarty the movie portraits wouldn't make this mistake.

Yeah he's going to nuke someone sometime

@@starliner2498 It is a reference to Chernobyl. The guy playing Moriarty here is a nuclear physicist in Chernobyl series.

@@bhupendrakumar2520 that's neat, I had no idea

@@starliner2498 Bruh

He might do 'Not great not terrible'

He would've won if not for those dead plants on the window.

@@ichigo3223 Don't forget leaving the cipher for his code on a chalk board for all to see

If Holmes hadn't insulted Moriarty, then he might not have included Watson in their little war.

Well looks like it goes both ways

I think Moriarty would have gone after Watson anyway because of his and Holmes' association, and psychopaths don't really follow average people's logic

can you please explain that part to me? i absolutely dont have any idea how that correlates to moriarty's loss. is it the throwing caution to the wind metaphor people discussed above in moriarty's pursuit to destroy holmes? or the wild haymakers moriarty threw to keep holmes back to the balcony in the video of their final showdown?

@@neilcuaresma5656 iirc the book was being used as moriaty's codebook and Holmes only knew because of how Moriaty obviously didn't read it for it's intended purpose

@@bs2202 what was the purpose?

@@hellolastname9556 A book on Horticulture would be used to help maintain and grow plants, Moriaty obviously didn't use it for that since his flowers were dead

Important clues must be introduced early in the story and this one was the key. It looks like they made it a touch too obvious on purpose so that the audience could keep up. It's one thing to create brilliant characters, another to give the audience clever, not too obvious clues.

Then there's this book about horticulture. It's very ironic. XD

This is ingenious!

Have we seen her dead?

@@MusicInUniverse no, we Just se her starting to walk with some dificult and ear her falling in some table dead

I think she is not dead she is also smart fella.

if the third movie use Milverton as enemy. that be like dealing with 10 moriarty.

Sherlock smells the handkerchief later and throws it away with a smile. Implies it is wine and Adler faked her death.

honestly

Yeah... That'd be cool. But as it is, it's much more entertaining! At least we can get a laugh as the country tears itself apart.

@오윤희 agree

Too much money involved to have a debate like this.

They both have to be smart and articulate. Neither possess either quality. It doesnt matter now that is in the past. I think we should make them do sword fights or something fun

More true of a bond villian than in any of Danial Craig movies lol

It's actually a reference to the first movie, where Holmes approaches Moriarty's carriage while wearing a disguise.

From the minute that Holmes walked into that room, Moriarty was taunting him with the Schubert piece playing give up your foolish trickery, this fish you cannot cheat! Holmes let him know immediately he knew what Moriarity was doing.

true

@@tareknaitsaada1108 They are way too different to compare.

@@nirajsolanki121 you can appreciate them separately though

Jeremy Brett is the best Holmes. RDJ is great though.

Restoration, less than zero, tropic thunder, Chaplin, Sherlock Holmes, the judge, natural born killers, soloist . Amazing performances. You should see

Did Moriarty mention the word inevitable in the movie?

@@oscarrzga4615 Yes "inevitable" was mentioned in the movie, but, I think it was said by Holmes, not Moriarty.

@@arunkumargupta4564 Yea from what I can remember it was in their final fight, Holmes says the conclusion is inevitable.

@@randomgaming7356 Yes.

@@arunkumargupta4564 however he did then utter unless.... So just like Endgame Thanos thinks he is inevitable...unless...😏

Hahahah.....he said "stark" :DDD

Now people can't compare them.

Jared Harris is Moriarty at his most refined and cleverly concealed, Andrew Scott is all of the hate and evil of Moriarty made manifest.

@@MaxwellAerialPhotography Are you being serious? Andrew Scott's Moriarty is pure OTT camp and slapstick. He's a terrible Moriarty and BBC Sherlock is an insult.

No. The "stark" difference is rather "strange".

And even when it comes to physical confrontation, mental and psychological confrontations preceding it just serves to intensify the conflict, making the physical ever more sweet when it arrives.

​@@ReiseLukaswhich is exactly what happened at the end of the movie (atleast mentally)

Releasing on October 2021 approximately.

It comes out in 2021 ❤

A third one is coming next year, with RDJ and Law returning. However, director Guy Ritchie will not be.

@@jtatum6900 2022(dec 2021)

@@ComedyBros5 that would be a shame. The director is definitely a big part of what makes these movies so stylish and great.

Actually Impatiently!

Well its confirmed by the studios and rdj theyre in the process of making the third movie but with covid going on i doubt its gonna release the intended date. Was supposed to release this year, then postponed next year.

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Giveb jared harris's other work like the Terror or chernobyll i wonder if they didnt ask him to be in it, he read the script, decided it wasnt worth his time,and decided to stick with working on the greatest tv shows of all time

His father was the old Dumbledore

I'm sure he was approached about it and politely declined. Too much baggage and particulars there, playing one of his father's best known roles.

It's coming. Underdevelopment since 2018

@@bait5257 And it seems that in this third movie, there will be the worst pirate we've ever heard of.

@@lindildeev5721 Ah, are you sure it's him and not Dumbledore's best friend?

It's coming but wont be developed by Guy Ritchie sadly, very sad.

I don’t think that Moriarty also was easily killed. If the third movie will come out, then I am pretty sure that he survived.

Moriarty is not a psychopath. He is a sociopath.

​​@@shanshajahan8160 That's Holmes my guy High function sociopath or sth

Both of them are sociopaths

The chess match at the end is mind blowing alone. While they sit at the game board, they are using their associates as if they are also pieces in the game. Watson is literally standing on what looks like a chess board. Holmes & Moriarty also sit, stand, fight on what looks like a chess board. Many layers. Intricately designed scene.

Yep

RDJ kills it as Tony Stark, but I think Holmes and his role in Tropic Thunder showed more of his prowess.

@@claritycontrol1530 also many of his other movies like Chaplin.

yeah Doolittle was his masterpiece.

@@filosofotacio8950 lol no

It's a dangerous thing for an actor to be remembered for just one role.

As a mathematician, I've often wondered why the professor bothered with such basic stuff.

@@Divergent_Integral Yeah, me and a buddy back at Purdue used to laugh at fictional (and sometimes, nonfictional) characters and their association with mathematics. For example, in A Beautiful Mind, Russell Crowe makes an early comment about how most of his students will never understand what's written on the chalkboard behind him. Give it a looksie to see this "impossible" theory. ;-D

@@Divergent_Integral are u from which university sir?

@@adrianjenkins5877 havent seen it, but i think many maths students just see maths in the form of numbers and letters glued together and have no understanding of what is actually happening, like with differentiation many people just think "apply formula and find answer" without understanding what the derivative actually tells you. i wouldn't be surprised if many people just "know" how to solve linear equations without understanding their application

​@@Divergent_Integral It's how he codes the agriculture book! Some seemingly irrelevant equation (1, 1+1 = 2, 2+1 = 3, 1+3+1 = 5, etc.) leads to specific letters in the book which turns out to be names under which boxes are held.

And i like that Moriarty only responded when Holmes was about to call him insane. Moriarty is fine with any derogatory term you label him with, but he takes great offense when you question his mentality.

But Holmes is patient and not prone to anger, unlike ol' Moriarty.

cmon..we know what happened at the end, and how Sherlock stole his diary. Moriarty has only the advantage of power (as in resources) which Sherlock never showed any interest in.

@@juhabach6371 I think they're reffering no the books.

@@oscarrzga4615 in the books he mostly appears indirectly and when they finally come against each other head on it lasts like a few pages. No where says he's "smarter and more cunning than sherlock"

their intelligence levels are equal. Their intelligence levels are different. Holms is far more creative and open minded than moriarty.

Especially if you consider that Moriarty is Sherlock's intellect but none of his morals.

Jumping off the falls was an insane gamble that probably should and relistically would have killed him regardless of the rebreather. The reason he lived is luck and the possibility of a sequel. In the books he never fell at all, but watson assumed he did.

according to a conversation Holmes has with Moriarty later in the movie, Watson's a bishop, not the queen

have you watched the entire 4 seasons of it?

I enjoyed both but bbc version is a tad better

BBC version is so pleased with itself.

Ikr, this is a thousand times better.

Its cinematically better but the bbc one is more fun to watch

3rd movie is coming but sadly not with Guy Ritchie

@@amandsniper NOOOO

@@amandsniper who then

Dexter fletcher from Lock stock and two smoking barrels is directing the 3rd one

Tommy Frigging Shelby vs Moriarty!

Arthur had to earn his keep somehow.

@@debiduttapradhan9260 if they both lived in the same universe Shelby would be working for Moriarty

Wait, isn't Arthur Shelby played by Paul Anderson, the same actor who portrays Colonel Sebastian Moran in this movie?

@Arun Kumar Gupta That was the exact reason for this comment mate.

this one is more mature and experienced while the one from BBC was more of an evil teenager with a better IQ than normal human

I like that they are both completely different takes tbh, variation is the spice of life

@Alfathony ah, another man of culture

Benadryl CabbagePatch?

This one is what Moriarty is supposed to be.

The word is "cheerfully"

what did he mean by this?

@@SaadKhan-rr2ww Moriarty said if Sherlock tried to destroy him and his plans he would destroy Sherlock in response. Sherlock then says if Moriarty's destruction was guaranteed(If I were assured of the former eventuality), he would gladly destroy himself in that pursuit (cheerfully accept the latter).

@@vforvendetta60 thank you for clarifying

@@SaadKhan-rr2ww "It's just elementary my dear Watson"😉 No problem

@@vforvendetta60 this was a brilliant foretelling of their final clash. Moriarty forgot about this when they engaged in the fight within their minds, that Holmes was prepared to sacrifice himself to ensure Moriarty met his end

Because it's a battle of wits, rather than a physical one.

Roman Fc part 3 releasing on October 2021, approximately.

Uh.. covid 19?? Cause they did start shooting before that, but well they had to stop

2021

Among other thing, RDJ was busy in the MCU.

Indeed. I think this is why Guy Ritchie didn't want to attempt Holmes 3 - set the bar too high already.

Yup, this sequel was 100000 times better than the first movie! And that's the way it should be!

Yes so don't compare those two with these. Thank you.