Shin Megami Tensei V - Demi-fiend Strategy (Hard Mode) 

the chad enel barges into the SMT scene, murders demi-fiend like it's nothing, and walks off

When Demi-fiend is nearing half health, you can consider using Omagatoki skill Accursed Poison from a Demon with Avian race to Seal Demi-fiend 100%. With this he won't be able to use Mediarahan, saving time.

This fight is pretty cool. Maybe they could add Flynn or something as dlc later on too. Also, Cleopatra is kinda cute though.

I was just getting killed by this boss and, out loud, asked how to beat it, and then I see ‘Demi-fiend strategy’ on my subscriptions page. Thank you very much I hope to finally beat DF soon Edit: spelling

Really nice guide dude, subbed 💪

you are right about the tam lin thing, tam lin is a recolour of cu chullain in IV and other games (blue instead of white)

This video helped me defeat the demi-fiend just a few minutes ago. I had to do a lot more demon switching than you did, but I made it through in the end.

I finally did it today ! Thank you a lot, your guide truly helped. I managed to do it in normal difficulty without udeen and cleopatra, and without the bird poison magatsuhi or adversity. I am really proud of myself. Plus my nahobino is a magic/agility/vitality one and this is my 1st cycle. I managed to do it with shiva, marie and odin only and this is thanks to you and your guide on fusion. So thank you !

It's a miracle I beat Shiva but as a new player to the series I traded in my balls to look at this guide. I got no shame 🤣

I may be crazy, but this only strengthens my desire to bring Cirronup to this fight. He is too precious, I've already won with him against Shiva

As far as straightforward tactics this is a very good run, and the commentary does add a nice bit of context. I don't necessarily agree on you're aversion to "cheese" tactics as they are what really pushes the envelope for these sorts of things. One example being the 6 minute or so run done by i think a chinese player using the beast magatsushi skill with endure to do safety difficulty levels of damage to demi on hard. Compared to that using phys repel switches just seems fair lol. Then again I'm using a luck build ailment MC so I suppose I just really like it when people break out of the mold and try things wierdly, it can be refreshing as heck to see things you never thought would even function turn into sheer ridiculous tactics!

I beat this boss after several tries just through sheer will power... I honestly don't know how.

THANK YOU SO MUCH♥️

While Xenoblade Chronicles 3 isn't out no game is safe from Enel

I really needed this video, I was wondering how to deal with the demi fiend because normally I see people beating him with a phys build and my 1st cycle has a magic build with 112 magic points, and because of that I didn't know if I should do new game + and make a phys build, and also that would give me the chance to get Repel/Drain phys, and fighting the fiends more fairly, in any case, I would try something with magic and if it works better I would beat him with that. Anyways, great video! And thank you so much for this one!

That Tam Lin comment fucked me up for a good 30 seconds. Had to go look it up and holy shit

This is fight is way more fair than the DDS fight. That shit is pure RNG luck if you don't cheese with the Red star strategy

Awesome video! I'm attempting this on my first playthrough before getting to the end point, is there any demon you'd recommend substituting for Nuwa?

Really nice strat! I attempted to beat Demi-Fiend today as well but got annihilated pretty quickly. I didn't realize that Idun is such a useful and powerful demon, I'm definitely going to fuse her and try that fight again! Are there any other recommendations for demons to use? I really would like to fight him during my first playthrough, so I can't use demons like Nuwa and I don't have access to the Dlc demons.

Solid guide dude nice! Im gonna try it myself Question tho, what would you think is a good replacement for Cleopatra if one doesn't buy her dlc? (because im no simp)

Super helpful video! Question: what affinity essence do you have on Nahobino?

Any recommendations for a magic based nahobino? Murakumo seems less than ideal when I pumped all my points into magic.

This deserves way more views than the other Demi-Fiend hard mode video. Well done on the fight/strat.

Don't know if you know this yet, but BuffMaister just released a vid showing that you can skip Demi-Fiend using Mediarahan by using Accursed Poison (Magatsuhi skill), which more or less has a 100% of inflicting Seal. Pretty neat exploit to know

what's the best way to farm incenses? cause I saw your Idunn had an insane magic stat. that's the biggest thing I've struggled with in the post game. either way amazing job and theorycrafting for this boss fight, funny how this boss seemed near impossible and extremely difficult on launch to what we know now

Dude Your a life saver

Damn I am late to the party but finally beat Demi-Fiend on Hard Mode. Had to Switch from a Figment Slash build to Murakumo of course with Revival Chant. MVP was Zhuque and his Accursed Poison Magatsuhi(tip from bainz’s channel, guaranteed to Seal Demi-Fiend and stops his Full Heal to party.) Was able to cut his health down by 30k and then it was just about playing smart/staying alive and consistently putting damage. I pulled off no Abysmal Mask on Casual/Normal but they’re indeed a must on Hard. Even if you get him close to death that Chaotic Will always prematurely ends the attempt. That and those Figment Slash misses, just too much RNG on hard mode.

Breaking all my favorite games I see! Is SMT5 your first SMT game or have you played any others before?

Amazing, not only was it sub 30, it was done with 4 to 6 demons! could you make a guide on the preparation process to get the stats and skills you have? I think it would be dope!

nice suggestions.

Just beat this last night, fight is ruthless 🤣

my strat was to just have 12 strong attackers, with specializations in each element to be able to nuke any add easily, tao, and a couple support demons. i made so many damn abdiels to give them all repel phys. i didnt do anything too crazy with the stat stacking, my highest stats were in the 120s-130s

Just out of interest, do you think you get more Mana out of High Restore over Great Mana Spring, given how often you're landing crits?

This fight seemed impossible even on easy

I noticed you had Nuwa so did ya do the Reborn option to grind your MC to those stats or just search with a nav 🤔????

Have you done any new game plus cycles or is this first playthrough to get those stats on nahabino?

I can't even beat Shiva on normal, im wondering what the heck I'll do in this fight

Thank you for the guide How do i get that insane near 200 stats? It feels like you grinded for a lot of incences, or fused 2 99 materials (and i am way too lazy to do that oof) Any guides to that?

I love Demi-Chan

damn still waiting for a non NG+ strat

*cries in magic nahobino*

Did I miss something? Is there any endgame in smt5? There is shiva as the one and only basegame "super" boss and demi behind dlc paywall. But what do you do with your powered up demons after beating the game? What is the point of collecting and fusing if there is no use for them? I guess there will be a royal/definitive/super ultra arcade edition coming, since they did cut some content. DLC was also in game and they did cut/locked it behind season pass. I guess we will get the one demon joining and leaving, permanently and propably in an playable second form, as well as the monk guy. All of this for full price, again.

Damn, even now I still can't bring myself to fight Demi-fiend I get PTSD from DDS. This man literally makes me switch off my game every time I see him in the hall of chaos. Scary...

imo you can't even really cheese the fight with drain/repel phys. First issue, he doesn't always attack into the resistance. But the real problem with that strategy is that you still have to meet the dps checks constantly or you get gaea raged. and you arent going to meet the dps checks if youre just swapping in random drain phys demons. Say you are on decent tempo to kill a demon before gaea rage, then you swap in a drain phys user. Sometimes, demi fiend will ignore them, use chaotic will, and you are suddenly in a situation where you might have to scramble to avoid a gaea rage. And also, if you get stuck with 4 phys immunities on the field that demifiend knows about, he and his demons will spam almighty attacks. So while it helps a LOT to have 15+ drain/repel phys users, it really doesnt break the fight or anything, it just gives you a bunch of insane potential tempo swings that you have in your back pocket. He doesn't always attack into the resistance. You have to have the ability to keep up offensive pressure constantly, even through chaotic will, so you can't afford to be swapping in mediocre demons even if they drain phys, unless you have demons with their stats in the 150+ stat range so you can afford to have a dud demon out cause the rest of your party does so much damage. Imo it's actually more crucial to have strong demons that RESIST instead of null phys that can stick on the field and be useful like shiva. Spamming drain phys only works if you have a core with boosted stats from consumables, or if you literally have a full squad of powerful demons, with multiple attackers that can nuke down each of his demons. multiple strong dedicated fire, force, elec, and force attackers. you can't just roll up with a squad of 24 mediocre demons with drain phys and expect to win unless your nahobino has eaten like 100 balms

I was fighting him for 45 minutes to an hour and almost killed him when he did Chaotic Will and wiped out the MC (I’d already used Enduring Soul and whittled goat).

I just finished my first play through but I'm curious on how you got everyone to 99 with such beefy stats? Did you use the mitama dlc?

What is the Fiendish Sash that you get from defeating DF? I can’t find any information about it online.

how did you up Idun's Stats like that ? :O that's insane

Mmmm can I put drain phys instead repel? I try to obtain it from fallen Abdiel but she doesn't drop it...

what the stats on demi-fiend's essence ? and what are the key items you got ?

is it possible to use a magic build on nahobino here?

On my last attempt after getting demi fiend to half health he healed himself again . Is there any way to prevent this?

This is amazing, you are so good at this game man! Question, i have a super buffed Tao with lots of stat boosters and that, and IMO her personal skill is better than Idun's (Same as Idun but she adds a Dekunda effect, meaning when she uses it the party would always go +1 or +2 if already buffed) I was wondering if she can do the same role as your Idun. The main differences would be that she has +9 on Light skills and not on Wind. Im not sure if it is better to have good affinities on other elemental skills. I can do a good Idun like yours no problem, but sometimes in the fight i did wonder if Tao's unique would be better, specially when you are debuffed.

Quick question did you do new game plus before fighting Demi- fiend? he is being kicking my ass pretty bad 😅 I haven't done new game plus and I also fuck up the stats for my nahobino he has like 98 strength and 100 of magic 😅😅, I didn,t consider using abyssal mask and critical zealot or using Shiva at all 😅 Im gonna try that out, also my demons don't have as much magic I kinda use the magic incenses pretty early in the game that was such a stupid mistake 😅😅, but since its my first playthrough I suppose I was bound to make mistakes 😅, also him healing himself when ever his hp is about 1/2 is kinda annoying it took me like 30 min just to lower his hp halfway 😅😅

Hey enel i must ask this. Why you use golden apple to heal instead of a mediarahan or some other thing? Isn't best to buff with just luster candy?

I wanted to go into this fight blind but then he squad wiped my whole team after fully healing so now I’m here… Yeah, fight is a little hard.

How would you set up a magic nahobino to do this? Murakumo just seems so OP, that you can't really do much else

Where did you farm for critical auras? I’m considering freeing up a skill slot for MC

Doing this battle with a magic build is hell

Awesome job! But just remember, you are most known for having WRs on Super Monkey Ball.

I refuse to buy any DLC that isn't demi fiend so what can we use instead of cleo?

Are you dump all your stats points into STR?

what is the best way to get the essences needed? just fuse them and level up?

23:38 There's a recolor of Cu called "Tam Lin" in some of the other games. I assume you're calling him "Tam" because of that, otherwise I have no clue.

I don't know why no one is using it, but Black Rider is absolutely broken.

I'm gonna try this one on my own but I'll come back if I fail.

Your the first person I have seen that has ever done this....

What was your build for Idun I want a good build

Nice

Is there a way to farm up the incenses?

How did You increase your demons stats so much?

Just beat Demi-fiend, no cheese, on Casual, first paythrough! So excited. Thanks for the help. For Casual Mode that felt more like IMPOSSIBLE. My setup: 1. Shiva(Tadava + Piercing Magatsuhi for Figment Slash to Crit Demi-fiend, SOMA + TADAVA SPAM WHEN DEMI-FIEND IN RED) 2. Idun(Gold Apple(obviously) / Mediarahn(To prevent demi-fiend's debilitate/candy spam when party already buffed) / Killer Wind(Piercing Wind to help Figment Slashers) 3. Yoshitsune(Figment Slash build) 4. MC(Figment Slash build) When shit hits the fan: 1. Artemis(Figment Slash Build but mainly to use her for extra magatsuhi that fully heals everyone and revives stock) 2. Cleopatra(She wasn't apart of the plan, didn't have any physical resistance but Frolic debuffs and Random charms saved the day towards the end.) 3. Mandrake(jk) It came down to the most epic moment I've ever had in a videogame. Demi-Fiend was Full Buffed and Idun/Shiva just died after using one last heal buff and pierce magatsuhi Had to win, last turn or Demi-Fiend used Ghea Rage instakill I used Pass with Artemis, Frolic with with Cleo(but demifiend still had Full Accuracry/Evade) Said a fucking prayer and attacked with no buff, accuracy DeBuff, got lucky with a +/- 3500 and finally beat him after literally trying for what seams like 3/4 days. What an absolute freaking blast of a game. Never has a gave game me so many epic moments, on the Casual difficulty lol. Should be labled Very Hard, Extremely Hard, and So You Like it In the Ass Rough mode.) I'm still high from beating him finally. What blast! Wish I video'd it but I'm not good at recording on the switch.

Is there a Cleo cheese where you abuse Frolic in this fight?

Is there any way to find the easiest incense sticks? I CAN'T FIND ANY GUYS THROUGH THE ITEMS THAT HUA CAN FIND

How did you set it up for Shiva

Why don't you play a real shin megoomy tensay game like nocturne or strange journey

Finally got around to beating SMTIII HD, made me want to try SMTV Demi-Fiend on Normal and after 20 tries and almost giving up I finally barely beat him lol. Such a hard but fun fight. This time I actually made him do his Lux/Deb/Almighty Spam because I was tired of dealing with his pain in the ass Ailments. Was able to down him with my same Figment Slash + Shiva Dub Piece Magatsuhi Strat, only this time I made a Siegfried Figment slash build. Siegfried is so cool/badass. Straight up absorbs Physical and you only really need Resist Force & Dark. Never thought I’d beat Demi-Fiend on Normal. Tried him on Hard before switching to Normal and got annihilated. Definitely not ready. Will take at least 1, if not 3+ more playthroughs of boosting stats to beat him for me on Hard. Almost didn’t beat him on Normal, hit me with the Friekugal Crit, luckily my MC had 999 health to tank it. That damn Figment Slashes are so annoying when they miss, but made it work.

Enel, I invite you to try the Elizabeth boss in Persona 3. This boss is a piece of cake relative to her. I will definitely watch that video if you decide to make it!

Best strategy is nothing wrong with being a whimp like me and putting it on safety mode

Kinda sad this fight isn't DDS levels of bad with repel phys being possible. Cool fight at least.

Man. What a joker. edit: it's pronounced Ku Kulain.

Guys please how do i grind to level 99 it's hell to just fight enemies or grind mitamas

I feel like we all should have listened to Trumpeter when he basically told us “yeah Demi-fiend built different” 😂😂 The jump from him to demi-fiend is like fighting Gohan then Gogeta blue right after.

damn

smtv is my favorite xeno game

The best part of the video is you forgetting that Spear-wielding Guy on the right's name. 😂😂😂 But what was his name again? Tam something? Also shoutout to my BLEEPING GIRL. CLEOPATRA. minus 2 points for not letting at least her Frolic animation play though. 😡😡😡

Tao>Idun. Her unique skill buffs past any debuffs.

i don't think it's possible to beat this fight without cheesing it. you had stats in the 170s lmao

Welp bye-bye xeno2 hello shin megami!

Man just a few months ago you suddenly came out of nowhere and slapped the true final boss of Hajimari on Abyss+100 and now you're here beating Demi-Fiend on Hard. Do you only have good taste in games?

Eh, already saw someone down him in under 3 minutes. Lol

Lol, it doesn't work. My MC keeps getting hit by 3 chaotic wills, FML.

Too bad you have to pay 10 bucks just to fight this guy.

Twice i almost kill him, but he use mediarahan and full heal yourself...stupid boss