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I really was scared i had to start watching other videos on loop while gaming. But thank god i got more fuel from the nice cobbler man that screams so much
well, they're from Europe, where the sea is on the west, always. Then they're suddenly in a place where the sea is on the east, this probably overrode their better judgement, or at least caused enough of a confusion and argument to have them going in the wrong directions. Stupid, still, but its something.
The context of cannibalism in the native people's culture you discussed here is really interesting and reminds me of another example of the nuances of a certain practice being shown in how differently Europeans and Native Americans comprehended it - particularly public executions. When the Wendat of North America took POWs, they usually did one of two things with them: they either adopted them as fully fledged members of society, or they put them through extremely excruciating, torturous public executions. Not only that, one thing that Jesuit missionaries were perticularly struck by was how the whole village would participate in the event, not as spectators by as co-torturers, especially interesting since in other areas of civil life the Wendat were known for their remarkable aversion to using violence to solve problems. The thing is, some Wendat actually got to visit France, and when they got there, they found out that the French *also* had barbaric public executions. This was way before the guillotine, French criminals were getting their nipples cut off and their limbs pulled apart by horses. And when the Wendat learned about all this they were horrified, not because the French were employing savage violence, but because they were doing it to *their own people.* French criminals were still technically French, whereas the Wendat reserved this kind of treatment for enemies captured in battle. The French also, of course, used executioners to carry out the sentence, and all the regular people present at the execution were just spectators. To paraphrase "Bitter Feasts" by Denys Delage: to the Wendat, the ritual of torturous public execution was a display of solidarity, of the unity and strength of the tribe against their external enemies. For the French, the ritual of torturous public execution was a display of the power of the king against his internal enemies, the criminals who dared to violate his word, and to act as a warning to the spectators. Both sides were horrified by the other side's barbaric practices, but in entirely different ways that weren't as simple as "brutal violence is bad."
@@johnpugh4411 Look up the meaning of the phrase. As for how it applies here, it's the fact that both of them are kinda just as brutal as each other, but the minor differences are treated by both sides like the other side are the monsters and we're completely fine. It's a very human phenomenon
I find something VERY interesting, there's a novel written by the American Moroccan author Layla Lalami called The Moor's Account. I remember reading and getting fascinated by it back when I was about 16. The novel tells of this same story from Stebanco's perspective starting from when he was sold to slavery in Morocco to feed his two brothers and mother after he was bankrupted to be sold to a Spaniard and then living this tragic adventure in the "new world". It's such a captivating novel (about 400 pages) and I really really recommend it to all who liked the story here!!
“And the slavers did what slavers do” I won’t lie. After the miracle in the desert story… that hurt. I knew it was coming but it hurt a lot. These are amazing, you beautiful schizophrenic crazy man. I hope you’re having as much fun making them as I do watching them, keep up the good work
Thanks for telling me about War Thunder, I had never heard about it before. I didn’t really understand the rest of the video but the planes where cool.
Speaking of the Tonkawas. Tonkawa scouts, affectionately called Tonks, were often used by Texas Ranger and US Cavalry units in their wars against the Tonkawa's blood enemy, the Comanche, who had ethnically cleansed the Tonks the century before. Because the Comanche had taken to horsemanship like fish to water and had spent 250 years building a steppe empire (albeit one larger than most countries but with a population numbering all of 20,000 Comanche). The anglos more or less ignored that after a successful battle their scouts would eat some of the bodies.
I like how Cobbler does such a great job in humanising everyone involved in the story as much as possible, very few are simply greedy evil bastards and things are looked at from a wider perspective.
Fun fact, the city of Guadalajara here in Mexico(my hometown) was named like this by one of Nuño de Guzmans lackeys in an attempt to suck up to him because Nuño was born in Guadalajara, Spain
Bold of you to assume I dont have time to learn why this man was named head of the cow now I have to look it up.... great. His father was Francisco de Vera, son of the conqueror of the Canary Islands Pedro de Vera Mendoza. Alvar Nunez's last name Cabeza de Vaca (which means "the head of a cow") was taken from his mother Dona Teresa Cabeza de Vaca's side of the family. His mother bestowed the Cabeza de Vaca name on her fourth son to evoke the prestige of her noble lineage. The house of Cabeza de Vaca was a prominent line of Spanish nobility since the thirteenth century. The origin of the Cabeza de Vaca name has been ascribed traditionally to Alvar Nunez's supposed ancestor Martin Alhaja. Alhaja is a legendary shepherd who reportedly helped the Spanish Christians win an important battle against the Moors at Las Novas de Tolosa in 1212. The story is that Alhaja marked an unguarded mountain pass with the skull of a cow, which allowed the Spanish troops to find a route to the top of the mountain and defeat the Moors in a surprise attack. Alhaja and his descendants were awarded with the title of Cabeza de Vaca. Your welcome
@@AncientAmericas We haven't actually recorded anything yet lol. We got really excited to start a podcast a couple years ago and just never did. I'll send you a link if you ever start recording episodes
The idea of a very slight possibility of a spiritual conquest instead of a militaritic one would definitely have made the north of old Mexico look completely different culturally. Quite the neat concept.
I have to wonder what kind of religion [maybe even society] would pop up if the Spanish never moved north. [Which i know would never happen unless if some catastrophe happened in the old world, or new world colonies.]
Cobbler isn't a cannibal, he's just a man willing to broaden his horizons past those pesky societal norms that oppress us by keeping us from reaching our true potential not only as terraneans but as the rightful liberators of the universe.
As someone who had american literature classes in chilean patagonia, this was a very good retelling and reading of Cabeza de Vaca and his account. Great work, I'll pester students who know english over here to watch it
I love the fact that he is making genuine historical resources. I fully believe that his fall of aztec videos are the greatest, most accessible, accurate coverage of what actually happened there that exists anywhere in the world. all powered by schizophrenia.
Coobler should do a video of the first Buenos Aires foundation, it was a disastrous expedition lead by a siphilis sick mercenary that ended with the Conquistadores doing cannibalism with each other
Karankawa are just come off as pretty wholesome people. Like they just take in a Spanish explorer for years complain about them being bad at being hunter gatherers.
That's because they were most and foremost, human. "Wholesome people" is a description suitable to basically any human culture, because that's how we humans operate: through cooperation with others like us
Cobbler please, PLEASE never stop making videos. your videos have such a beautiful emotional punch to them, even when you're talking about history of fucking cannibalism
Thanks for the shoutout to the Persistence-Hunting Community! We truly appreciate it! I'll pass it on to Dave when he gets back from hunting in about 2 weeks.
What a story. What a man. Absolutely incredible video. Definitely a top notch production. That man survived all of that and had to return to "a normal life" after. Imagine the stories he told those in his village.
Hello Mr. Cobbler First, great video. Second, as a native of the region (Monterrey, particularly), seeing our history being communicated to a wider audience is excelent. Third, I consider that the history of Nuevo León would interest you greatly. For example the capital of Monterrey was founded three times due to native chicimeca raids and depopulation. Slavery was also widely practiced by both Spaniards and Natives alike despite it being outlawed and greatly frowned upon by the Spanish Crown and Catholic Church. You might also like Santiago Vidaurri's life story and career in politics, though he lived through the XVIII century. Fourth, on sources, I would recommend you the following (the titles are in Spanish, I do not know if they have been translated to English): Historia Breve, Nuevo León - Israel Cavazos Garza; Los Bárbaros del Norte - Luis Medina Peña; Bárbaros, el Rey y la Iglesia - Carlos Manuel Valdés; La Gente del Mezquite -Carlos Manuel Valdés Fifth, keep at it big dog, your channel is tremendous
33:00 meme "Sorry, but the human sacrifices will stop... at least the sacrifices to Huitzilopochtli. Technically we're going to sacrifice all of you to the god that is the Spanish war economy."
If there was ever an earnest conversation going on with regard to Colonization, it seems it would look something like this: "You don't understand! LOOK! I have conclusive proof that this exploitation is unnecessary to our goals!" "No, _you_ don't understand. Exploitation _is_ our goal"
Considering this is immediately after the illegal war with the Aztecs, which would need six movies by itself, this part of history isn’t really viewed in a rightfully good light outside of the old world. I say the war with the Aztecs need 6 movies because you need 3 to show how Christianity had evolved in the 700 years in Spain prior to it and to show how vastly different it had become to the rest of Europe due to the reconquista. Then you need 3 movies for the war itself because there’s too many events that happen within it and the majority are pretty important to not be cut out for time. Then just for this story you actually need 4 maybe 5 movies. 2 explaining the events of the previous video and 3 for this video. Overall it’s a lot of movies (this is also ignoring the events that lead up to the the reconquista which would need to be its own series of movies) and would be a solid hit in the US and in South America. But for it to be made you’d need to find a director who cares enough to not only tell this story, but to tell it in a way that doesn’t hide the realities of either situation (Like how the movie Apcocalypto portrays the Spanish in a good light while going hard on the human sacrifice and cannibalism)
People in the 21st Century: "Man, everything has been discovered. I wish i could go on an adventure! " Spanish Conquistadors: "ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT???"
It’s weird how despite what Cabeza and his comrades had done to the natives up to this point the Karankawa were still kind to them, most likely from ignorance of their actions. I wonder if this ate at Cabeza. The way the sea rejected them, the storms, and the starvation. It would have all been seen as signs from God that what he was doing wasn’t right.
I literally just finished rewatching "What did the Romans think of barbarians & Carthage?" and suddenly this gets uploaded. This must be a sign or something.
For me the saddest part of this story is that after living for years as a slave, Estebanico's master never once considered the idea of freeing him, which was something he could've done. Instead as soon as the got back to New Spain he put him back to work as a slave as if the two men hadn't spent years trying to escape tehir captives together, and helping each other survive, I mean you'd think some form of friendship, or even just respect would develop under such equalizing conditions, but nope. So sad.
When people think of cannibalism it's funny that it's always equated to Hills Have Eyes like mutant tribes that gnaw on people like zombies. And never like a modest proposal or soylent green.
@@AC-hj9tv You're welcome but now i think about it babe sounds kinda weird for my Polish native brain, i guess when my brain learned English it burned meaning baby to infant and can't rewire it to partner, so what about we call each other something normal like froggy ? You can disagree but i will disapear you by taking the pills if you do so. Wait a minute, it's not What'sApp.
22:18 WOAH, this section is crazy. An african so far from home, now back with familiars, now as surviving equals. Imagine seeing your former slaver, eye to eye. After YEARS apart. Now both in a much different world, and, because you know each other, and your "Band white guy" is going up to the "Other white guys" you decide to check it out. Oh shit. It is your boss. And i must assume that the exchange was humbling, and enlightening for both. Now allies in a much more dangerous world for both. They escape THEIR OWN SLAVERY ONCE AGAIN. and travel with the other familiar far-off friends across the lands, spreading (from what is told here: 26:48) good faith and healing. What follows i am yet to watch, but might write about again.
Do you want another crazy history of a Spanish of that era? Look at "Catalina de erauso". Here is her pitch: she was a nun, she escaped, crossdressed as a man, turned assassin, went to help in Chile's conquest (her diary was like "but I killed a lot of Indians today"), went up the ranks, became ludopath, was caught and found, and escaped again to live a life as a pirate.
Yooooo, now this is some local history I never learned growing up in Southern Texas! I even Used to go to a scout camp called Camp Karankawa. This some dope ass shit Cobbler!
I fucking love this dude's videos, I have a history teacher that some how turns every lesson on the Aztecs, or Rome, or whatever else we're learning about into the most boring thing on earth. Cobbler doesn't have that problem.
23:40 Fun fact there are bisons native to Europe too, just nobody knows about them cus they almost all died in the 19th c. So our spaniards were not the first europeans to see bisons, but yeah they are the first ones to see the buffalo. On another note sincve the european bison likes to live in forest and spain is not the ideal place for them, our conqistadors probably never saw a european bison.
Crazy that the conquistador that most closely resembled the history of jesus, a group of humble man that amounted a large following by helping people and doing miracles, got shut down and locked up by the same group that was doing "the lord's work". Goes to show that religion played no part in the conquest of the new world, just the greed of man.
Not going to lie, without these videos I never would have learned the history of mezoamerica or of the history of Spanish conquest or the lives of native Americans. Genuinely a great teaching tool
kinda similar how in Brazil a certain Hans Staden(A german) got lost for some reason and lived among the so called savages, he detailed accounts about cannibalism, today they call this ritualistic cannibalism "antropofagia"(anthropophagy), the thing about eating your enemy to get his strength, which, if i recall correctly, the missionaries used as analogy with the lord's supper and the blood and flesh of jesus to convert the natives
Your ability to show the humanity of historical people through comedy is a true gift. Now get to work, I demand a new video every 3 days or I’ll tell the FBI about your involvement with the New York City draft riots.
Haven’t been this early to a dj cobbler post before. I really appreciate what you do and I think your content has been the helpful distraction I needed to get out a lot of very deep holes ive been in recently. Thank you for your presence on RU-vid
At this point, as a somewhat longtime viewer of the Cobbler, I can only describe his videos to others as incredibly thoughtful essays, with the deranged sense of humor straight out of something like Always Sunny.
Love to see Gaijin funding Balkan War Criminals.... you've really made it, Cobbler... you've become a RU-vid Star... 😐😐😐 But seriously.. keep up the wonderful educational content...
This is the most comprehensive and interesting deep dive on history I have ever seen. If only there was more content just like this. This is better than a college level course!!!
