Shocking! 20% of Chinese Students Abroad Expelled , Nearly Half for for Exam Cheating, Paper Fraud 

If they catch 25%, you can be sure the actual number is much higher.

If the well known motto, "If you can cheat, then cheat." is accepted and encourage in China, what do you expect?

the chinese motto on ethics..........IF YOU CAN CHEAT...CHEAT.........this is from the chinese

I taught in China for 13 years. All of them thought they were going to Harvard or Yale while not a single one of them had the ability. They're not the brightest students on Earth.

I caught several Chinese student blatantly cheating on multiple occasions while in China and they and the school didn't give a crap. Just told me to scold and re-test. I currently have students from Vietnam and they are disappointingly the same. I think it speaks to culture and generational value issues. Don't get me wrong, North American students do it rampantly as well (way more so than before). The difference is when they're caught they at least know it's wrong and don't negotiate a way out. My Chinese and Vietnamese students seem to think "what's the big deal? I was just trying to get a good result (without the work)".

This is not surprising to me. I happen to work with Chinese shops here in NYC and so I know that they do everything they can to not pay taxes through illicit means.

My daughter went to the university of Arizona with them. She said that is all they do......cheat .

I had a chynese classmate in grad school and we worked on a group project together with a couple other people. Her contribution to the written portion of the project that she was responsible for was just a word-for-word copy of something off the internet. No analysis, no anything other than a copy and paste. She couldn't comprehend what plagiarism was.

Cheating is an integral part of the Mainland Chinese culture. When a Chinese says sorry, he generally means he is sorry he is caught, not sorry for what he has done wrong.

i was in graduate school. A Chinese professor from another department called me out of the blue and asked me if I could tutor a Chinese student who was in my program. I said I’d be happy to help. I scheduled a session with her, but when the time came, she didn’t show up. Two hours later, she called me saying she overslept. I was kind-hearted and rescheduled. The second time, she came over (late also) and we started. I explained to her how I studied in the class and went over my notes. We studied public administration and alot of the knowledge was based on a foundation of American history. I realized she had no clue about anything American. I lent her some of my notes telling her I wanted them back. That was stupid of me, because I never heard back from her and never got my notes back. I’m Asian (American) but not Chinese. I think I was targeted.

Rich kids with easy access to high education in china and outside are paying the price while the poor and talented are excluded!!

I was a bit surprised when my Chinese classmate who had recently completed a masters , was unable to cope with a couple of hours of conversational English and trip to Starbucks. It was suspicious to say the least.

cheating students should just have their student visa revoked and sent back to whatever country they came from, opening up the spot for someone else that ACTUALLY wants to learn

Letting them graduate and returning them will only promote a corrupt society, and even if they get a job overseas their inability to do the job will soon be exposed.

I remember when I was in college, I had all these Asians surrounding me, who just wanted to copy my work, and because I had a crush on one of the Asian dude I was okay with it. My teacher at the time moved me to another desk because he thought I was going to cheat off of the Asian kids during a test, and when I moved I saw the panics on their faces lol. But it just pissed me off that he automatically assumed that I was going to be the one cheating off them 🙄

As a student in France (finance accounting and business management ) I was shocked by the fact that a group of Chinese students from a private school, speaking almost no word in French, during the exams obtained better grades in all subjects including those requiring write essays and analyze French law texts. Especially when I saw that they handed blank sheets of paper. The private school in China had to provide good bribes for my university 😅

plagiarism at higher education level correlates to plagiarism at industry level. Shocker.

I mean living here in China it’s not about hard work it’s about cheating or copying. I have friends who proudly claim their children cheated in uni and got their degrees.

I can't believe 4/5 Chinese students haven't been caught yet

I grew up in an area with a high chinese population, and used to hang out with some (at school as their parents don't let their kids hang out with "round eyes") and was surprised how many of them flat out cheat in school.

their parents was raised in a govt that does not have integrity .. what made you think these spoiled brats have it.

Taught high school math and physics in international schools across China for six years. Half the schools were paper mills for the thick and rich, looking to avoid the Gaokao ( Chinese version of SAT 普通高等学校招生全国统一考试.). The other half were great students with definite academic interests who were interested in learning .Rich people buy privilege all over the world.

In one of my college class, I had to do a group project with 3 chinese international student and one Chinese American. All 3 international students wouldn't do the work. The American Chinese and I ended up doing the entire project and during our presentation, we gave them note cards for the parts they were assigned to present. They couldnt even read the note cards. It was just gibberish. I dont think they can even read English.

Cheating in China is not a bug. It is a feature of the system.

You just broke the myth about Chinese being excellent students. But the Chinese stereotype of copying everything is strong as ever. 😂

Hmm, fake food, fake cars and now fake grades...

When I was first year in university I received an email totally in Chinese advertising a cheating service. They said they'd do my homework and assignments, etc, if I pay. Probably sent it to me because I have an asian sounding name. They're not even trying to hide it.

Went to college at top 1% school. At the time it was 50% foreign students, ‘cause diversity is our strength. Many of the students couldn’t speak English. Not joking or exaggerating. I helped grade papers for some history classes, for papers written in class.. which is how I found out they didn’t speak English. Professor asked me to speak to a few of the students that were failing, to see if I could help. One girl could literally only say ‘my name is Claire’. That was it. She ended up passing the class of course, because diversity is our strength. I moved to another country for a job later on and met a girl from my school that graduated with a doctorates in biology I think it was. I didn’t know her from school, but found out we went to the same school. She couldn’t speak English beyond greetings, and naming a few foods. Money talks. Crime pays.

Do you want to go to a doctor who cheated his way through medical school??? You want to cross a bridge every day that was designed by an engineering graduate who couldn't do structural calculations??? Just a couple of examples most everyone can relate to.

“If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying“ -Sun Tzu probably

I used to teach them English at University. You have no idea how much some universities bend over backward for students who do not belong and it was obvious which ones cheated and which ones didn't. This video should be renamed 'No Shit Sherlock'

Billions of them believe in cheating this can’t be good …

What kills me is that when writing a paper all you have to do is cite your sources!

What good is a degree if you don't have the knowledge that goes with it. It can get you a job but if you can't do the job, you will be fired.

The fact a college degree alone doesn't guarantee employment, makes taking academics seriously a joke. The effort doesn't equate to the output.

Know a Taiwanese who spend 6 years in uni for a 2 year course because of her English. But she expects people to lower the bar for her and made no effort to improve. The uni gave her the easiest placement when it comes to practicum. She is now a license allied health professional who can't even wrote a sentence without severe grammatical error. Also she is now claiming she is autistic...

"If you can cheat....cheat". Chinese proverb.

The thing is, once they go home, they are unemployable

"Just buy it." This is the Chinese default answer for many things.

All cheaters should be expelled.

I teach at a university in Australia and I see a greater number than 25% of Chinese students cheating They just don’t get expelled I see them handing In reports that they cannot even read back to me :-( Then the say Australia is racist because they cannot obtain a decent Job with a degree Why ? Because it’s common knowledge what they do

So many students, not just Chinese students, cheat with online classes. Were they not supposed to sit the tests in person? All my online classes that I ever took made us sit all tests our midterms and finals in person. We all got a specific day in a small group and had to sit in the hallway right out side our Professors office so he could watch us and so we could not cheat.

I am surprised - I always thought Chinese students were hard working and successful.

I'm surprised it's only 20%. I work with international students and literally none of the Chinese students who arrive to the US belong in the institutions that have accepted their applications.

Same with Chinese academics. They will put their names in papers they did not write.

All I learned from school or campus was cheating is bad, but if you get caught it's worst

I’m an online English teacher. Young Chinese students tell me their parents are buying their IELTS and previously GAC certificates so they can study abroad. If this is so culturally acceptable, it’s unsurprising they cheat at university. Where I live in SE Asia, plagiarism is virtually unheard of and, if you can cheat and don’t, you are thought strange. Some local teachers actively encourage students to cheat as the teachers are judged on their student’s results. I’m not sure the two cultures are compatible.

Guess that Affirmative Action wasn’t enough huh? Pathetic.

I've taught at a very prominent university in California for several years. I can't speak to cheating, but the last class I taught, I was surprised by the lack of effort and work ethic by the two Chinese students in the class. One slept often in class, and the other had issues with attendance. Both made excuses for not meeting the very clear expectations I went over clearly in the syllabus.

Makes sense... Chinese usually tend to take it easy in university but US schools tend to get harder and harder the higher the education. It doesn't match. The Chinese philosophy of if you can cheat then cheat doesn't really work out as well in the west. Corruption and bribery is just not that common for average people.

What is the point of the education if you don’t get the education yourself. Is that why there are incompetent and unqualified people in positions of power and authority mishandling economic policies, geopolitical policies, the financial sector, the industrial sector, the real estate sector and trade and so forth?

I know well this to be true. I went to undergrad with many Asians and Chinese who cheated. It's rare to find one who is honest. There are honesty ones out there.

As a Chinese man, I'd like to remind everyone that not every Chinese person is a cheater.

I’m retired from a very large university in Canada. The student discipline department was part of the office I worked in. When that office was busy, I would sometimes have to attend student trials assisting the overflow of cases. Since I was working in the governance section of the university I would see 100% of the cases in paper work format . They were always confidential, but I had access to this material for governance purposes. After a while I noticed that the bulk of these cases involved foreign students. I assumed they were mostly Chinese, but a colleague in that department told me… it was mostly South Koreans. People should not assume that only orientals cheat. It is widespread. Foreign students get caught more often for deficiencies in cultural and linguistic skills, which are not at the same level as domestic students. In other words white kids are better at evading detection than foreigners. Regardless the cases were very sad indeed. I absolutely hated assisting this department. Luckily I only had to fill in when my colleague was on vacation and if it was busy. I probably attended 15 cases in total over 11 years. As one colleague said to me… it would have been easier if the student just put in the effort to study instead. She was referring to a student that had gone to great lengths to break into a room where exams were kept. The entire thing was caught on video (and presented at the trial). I had no idea anyone could do that with a coat hanger!

This is no surprise to me. The chinese students in my class straight up brag about copying other peoples papers online and one of my classmates openly tried to bribe one of our teachers...cheating is just so common and normalized there its disgusting.

And these are the same people who came after minority atudents for AFFIRMATIVE ACTION. 😂

Melbourne, Aus city centre is heaving with mainlander uni students and most of them can barely string a coherent English sentence together. The unis got drunk on all those full fee payers and I’ve no doubt they get passes regardless of their output, attendance ect.

The smarter students don't get caught.

How can people who took the hardest university entrance exam in the world have such low grades?

Shocked, international tuitions are massive money makers. Large chunk of AU is dependent on it, not just the Universities.

I have spent more than 20 years in educational environment, and I have always seen Chinese cheating or trying to cheat.

This is how these kids were raised. They don't know any better. Sad, really.

Dishonesty is a central theme of Chinese society.

I remember back in 2009 in Algonquin College (Canada). All Chinese student had answers to the exams ahead of time.

all the insane long list of homeworks that Chinese kids were being assigned everyday. That's enough to teach them the appeal of cheat at an early age.

The Chinese students those who are acted directly as the CCP.

I taught Chemistry & Physics in two Chinese public schools, and I can POSITIVELY say that the cheating on their SAT exams was blatant and shameless. A couple of students made it to the University of Arizona, because their Daddy had the money. But, MY GOD, they cannot even say Arizona correctly, let alone the course they will be taking ('Psychological will be my course.") I even placed bets on how SHORT their stay in ANY Western University was going to be. I WON THE BET, EACH AND EVERY TIME!

as a former educator, i totally agree. i bumped heads with principal all THE TIME when i taught over there memorization and drilling is ALL they do, if you tell em to come up with something ORIGINAL......nothing but "buffering" and/or stuck.

You see this in industry too. They have no concept of intellectual property, or ownership. Why do you thin hacking is so common? Easier to steal a design than to design it your self.

This has been going on for years, but the question is why are they saying something now.

As with CCP, integrity is at the bottom of the stack

My daughters in high school and she told me everyone cheats and the teachers know it. 🤷🏿‍♂️

Suprisingly the Chinese students and Chinese never end up homeless across America

Even in games and food related things these mfs cheat.

EVERYTHING under the sun can be ChatGPT'd these days

Well of course how will they pass any writing form if they can’t even speak a full English phrase!

5000 years of cheating.

Go home. America: No Vacancies.

Before retirement, I taught 11-18 year old pupils at a school near to a university popular with post-graduates from abroad. Most brought their families with them, and many of their children attended our school. When they first arrived, the children from East Asia, who usually spoke English at a high level, were well behaved. However, they quickly felt that they were falling behind their English peers. They were so-used to the rote learning of facts that they could not cope with being asked to think. They could pour out vast amounts of fact but were unable to come up with ideas of their own. Consequently, their behaviour deteriorated, cheating increased, and they developed a dismissive attitude towards others in the class. Only their rote learning was valued, and ideas were a waste of time. Thankfully, because they were often with us for two or more years, they began to see the value of ideas and became enthusiastic in lessons. However, under stress, the cheating reappeared. It was ingrained in the psyche. I often wonder how they reintegrated into school once they returned home, and they had to learn that facts were the main objective in education.

Obviously the majority of these students are graduates of the 'Justin Trudeau School of Ethics'.

I Thought they were so SMARTER than everyone else?

Also, let's not forget how AI might make it easier to fake competence in some workplaces in the future...

when i went to college for computer engineering i offered the international students from india and china help if they needed it, as i knew how hard it can be to be a foreigner in a strange land and then went to the bathroom. i came back to a good fraction of the class huddled around my laptop and emailing all of my code to themselves. when i worked out exactly what the hell i was looking at i walked over and slammed the laptop shut on their fingers and dragged it to the professor and told them what happened and opened the laptop to show him the draft. he took the laptop, deleted the draft and nothing ever came of it. that was at mohawk college in ontario canada almost a decade ago, and i have zero doubt that the majority of each class claiming to be opressed minorities has only gotten exponentially worse since the pervasive woke culture gives them way too many chances and excuses. i'm inuit and never used it as a shield or sword to defend my failings or attack someone for pointing out a flaw of my own. i pray that more people conduct themselves as i do but it's got to be a futile prayer...

This has been going on for so long. I remember hearing about this scandal from my homecountry (France) in the 90's. They were paying heads of department large sums of money to obtain a Master's degree or PhD without even speaking any French.

How spies are here!

Lmfao turns out they ain't as smart as they say

I heard story where the guy presented his ID to enter the exam, but handed them the wrong ID, so he pulled out a stack of IDs and started sorting through them in front of the staff member.

Imagine just barely missing the cut for an Ivy League school and discovering half the exchange students that got accepted got kicked out because they pay for ghost writers and are actually stupid.

penalty 250k only? too cheap and lenient.. make it 888mil or life sentence without parole or both... you'll see the cases will reduce significantly......

In the states, we know that ghe idea of "chinese kids are smarter is a myth." Thry work hard, have weekend tutors, can afford to apply to multiple collges (at $150 to $250 a pop, my parents could only afford 3 schools to apply to)....but smarter naturally? Not my experience.

Imagine how much more they would find if Universities and police departments send undercover writers to these ghostwriter companies. 😮

Yep, really common in Australia. When i was doing my degree you'd see a huge bunch of chinese students the first week (probably a third to just under half the class of about 300) and never see them again. One year in our final project, a Chinese student tried to bribe me to give him a higher % grade of our team project, that he never turned up for.

Harvard and wuhan China are connected

they clearly weren't studying... just what were they doing

Many years ago while at college I had a job on camus that brought me into contact with many international students. So many tried to bribe me to write papers for them and the instances of cheating was mind blowing.

I have talked to a lot of students in mainland. After a few years I they finally figured it out talking with me. They are cheating to finish a task as quick as possible. They are not are there to learn. BA>MS>PhD Those are just milestones to cheat past, not to learn for. Total cultural difference. To be honest it's tests that have failed them. The tests have nurtured a factory mindset.

This is one of the consequences of cultural revolution!

Do they return to China when expelled?

imagine a doctor or engineer who cheated their way through college. beware !!!

I work at an International school in China and just talking about this. The major problems and reasons are Universities except low level International students to boost their ratings and get money. Chinese students are used to teachers actually helping them to cheat or giving them passing grades die to not wanting to lose face and that they take so may tests they become used to cheating and can't think for themselves