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SHOCKINGLY BAD ELECTRICAL WORK BY THIS INSTALLER.
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@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 2 года назад
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@TheShinnion
@TheShinnion 3 года назад
That’s the first time I’ve seen a pvc gland installed upside down 😂😂😂
@paulprescott7913
@paulprescott7913 3 года назад
Yeh how on earth can you get that wrong.
@dennisreid4428
@dennisreid4428 3 года назад
I spotted that and wondered "WTF" and why do it like that?
@carterglover3539
@carterglover3539 3 года назад
To resolve having 4 conductors in the MCB where you have doubled up the ring you could have connected one leg of ring 1 to one leg of ring 2 with wagos and then you've got one bigger ring 👍
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Lovely idea!
@TeamSimpsonRacing
@TeamSimpsonRacing 3 года назад
True but you may make the circuit to long and then not comply with volt drop 👍
@carterglover3539
@carterglover3539 3 года назад
@@TeamSimpsonRacing Rings can cover 100m2 area and those circuits combined only total the upstairs floor of the house
@TeamSimpsonRacing
@TeamSimpsonRacing 3 года назад
@@carterglover3539 you would think so. Makes you wonder why they did two rings for upstairs 🤔
@carterglover3539
@carterglover3539 3 года назад
@@TeamSimpsonRacingGood point, maybe an old extention?
@labelectrical
@labelectrical 3 года назад
Great vid, love your testing and fault finding content. You need to to be sending an invoice to Anderson's Electrical for your lost time due to their incompetence. Glad you called them out though, might make them up their game 👍
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
👍
@luisbranco9260
@luisbranco9260 2 года назад
The box is original, not an outside box. It was fitted to council houses, I managed to get a consumer unit that was made for those boxes no longer made!!
@trevorpreston6351
@trevorpreston6351 Год назад
Hi again Just a thought why didn't you change all mcbs to rcbo plenty of space and contactum are cheaper than most and it could be left as is that would of been my suggestion Thanks
@robertmather7696
@robertmather7696 Год назад
Looked like you cut off the enlarged stub on the busbar which should be installed into the rcd as the connection its taking all the load?!? 20:36
@the_real_hislordship
@the_real_hislordship 3 года назад
5:35 is enough to see the phone number on the label. Google tells me the company 😁
@wayneedwards1418
@wayneedwards1418 3 года назад
Why didn't you wago opposite legs of the 2 rings and put the other 2 legs in the mcb instead of four cables in an mcb. 🤠
@robinfisher4376
@robinfisher4376 3 года назад
Who ever installed that consumer unit just does not know what they are doing, simple!!
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
I agree
@norfolkmustard
@norfolkmustard 3 года назад
@@artisanelectrics They were French (email address @yahoo.fr and the way they wrote their 1s in the date) - perhaps not fully up to speed with UK regs
@robinfisher4376
@robinfisher4376 3 года назад
@@norfolkmustard yeh to say the least. 😂
@dennisphoenix1
@dennisphoenix1 3 года назад
If the swa was connected into the Henley blocks at the mains there would be no means of isolation as well as no over current
@dariuszderecki635
@dariuszderecki635 3 года назад
Garage BG consumer unit is very nice in my opinion. The bigger ones are nightmare
@mrextremophile
@mrextremophile 3 года назад
Great video. What was the reason some cabbies can’t get a home charger? Sorry, I’m not an electrician - just curious.
@norfolkmustard
@norfolkmustard 3 года назад
Looped mains - one wire from the street going to two houses - so perhaps max 50 or 60amps per house fed by a single 100amp fuse in the street www.ukpowernetworks.co.uk/internet/en/help-and-advice/documents/looped_services.pdf
@001Neal100
@001Neal100 3 года назад
When ever I want to turn the power off the customer tells me they've got a zoom call in 10minutes 🙄
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 3 года назад
2020 problems... but yes, every damn time
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
So true
@RandomInternet
@RandomInternet 3 года назад
@@artisanelectrics and thats why i carry a small UPS. runs their broadband router and phone charger while i work
@hvachacker586
@hvachacker586 3 года назад
Its ok im paid by the hour🤣
@Deiphobuzz
@Deiphobuzz 3 года назад
Paid by hour ftw. I'll sit in the van waiting if i have to. Prep all work, kill power, connect three or four leads, power back on, sign here, have a nice day.
@rodericde876
@rodericde876 Год назад
One can clearly see the original contractor WEL Elecrical Services at 2:39. Why bother to pick off their lovely label when we already know who they are?
@iansmith2916
@iansmith2916 3 года назад
Why can't you run the charger of a rcbo because the charger is fitted with protection so it shouldn't blind it?
@Actionmannin
@Actionmannin 2 года назад
I would walk away or customer has to foot the bill for sorting it out properly.
@Chris-hy6jy
@Chris-hy6jy 3 года назад
I'm confused why you need to travel 1.5 hours to get work? Surely you have plenty of work within a 30 minute radius?? If I were you I'd be limiting the area you cover, it's just not worth the hassle and extra expense.
@barrybritcher
@barrybritcher 3 года назад
Money.
@DanielPaprocki
@DanielPaprocki 3 года назад
You can get plastic dentist's mirror as well 😎😄
@donnierobertson3088
@donnierobertson3088 3 года назад
Nice job and video like always
@thlighting
@thlighting 3 года назад
At least they used cable glands .. could be worse
@thomasbambridge6974
@thomasbambridge6974 3 года назад
And it’s in a cupboard which needs a tool to open so single insulated isn’t a bother . Not how I’d have done it but....
@nopy99
@nopy99 3 года назад
DPD delivering as expected.. good luck....
@gregkasprzak
@gregkasprzak 3 года назад
Won't be possible to create one ring main out of these two by connecting two legs inside CU?
@haroldburrow4363
@haroldburrow4363 10 месяцев назад
Me, a yank electrician, watching this: of course its messed up, the panel is sideways and made of plastic!
@ccaiuss
@ccaiuss 3 года назад
You must provide protection against touch! Do not tie multiple conductors into a single clamp! ... many mistakes
@WALLACE7084
@WALLACE7084 3 года назад
Like watching these sort of videos but had to stop the music is seriously irritating surely you can find something better even silence would be a improvement lol.
@alexfagard3618
@alexfagard3618 3 года назад
what is a "loop service"?
@leetaylor5988
@leetaylor5988 2 года назад
The supply being shared with neighbour
@solid_king1155
@solid_king1155 3 года назад
Wel .. i guess that was no good
@farmersteve129
@farmersteve129 3 года назад
Fundamental mistake there in trusting a supplier... with such a critical part I avoid booking in a job until I have the part in my grubby little hands because if a supplier or courier can mess up there's a high likelihood that it will happen!
@robertbritton656
@robertbritton656 3 года назад
@@r.h.8754 Service engineer as well and that happens far too often.
@jean-pierredeclemy7032
@jean-pierredeclemy7032 3 года назад
And once it is booked don't bother trying to divert it because it ain't going to happen.
@stevenbrooks8323
@stevenbrooks8323 3 года назад
Could you not have joined one leg of each ring to make one big ring, if the earth loop wasn't to high.
@Graza25
@Graza25 3 года назад
Thats what i was thinking. I would have probably done that. I suppose there's not much difference.
@mgabrielle2343
@mgabrielle2343 3 года назад
You got me going there with your Earth leakage tester, I think I know why when you measured leakage on the pair of meter tails, it registered 11 odd mA leakage, and yet when you measured on that earth wire it measured zero mA, so what that means is the earth leakage current is not going through that yellow green conductor, but is getting earthed somewhere else , directly into ground either through pipe work etc, so that should stop you scratching your head. And of course, you need to enclose both live and neutral in the tester jaws, and any common mode load currents would cancel each other giving you any differential mode current read out, so even if you had a load of 5 amps you would be seeing 5.011A in the live conductor and returning exactly 5.000 amps, whereby 0.011A going into the ground through another earth point and not that yellow green earth conductor.
@HenryLoenwind
@HenryLoenwind 3 года назад
No spares? I see 2 spares---if you replace the all breakers with rcbos. ;)
@glossamano1899
@glossamano1899 3 года назад
And extra time involved to segregate the neutrals from the neutral bar.
@Cjrelectrical
@Cjrelectrical 3 года назад
Shocking work does not shock me it’s an everyday occurrence. 👍
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
I know right! 😂
@seandunne2673
@seandunne2673 3 года назад
Shocking 😂 bad pun.... (probably not intentional though 😂)
@geoffupton
@geoffupton 3 года назад
bbzzzzzttt ⚡️⚡️
@JamesSherlouk
@JamesSherlouk 3 года назад
@@artisanelectrics Seriously, what's the best way to find an electrician who's going to do a good job? bout to get my place rewired in Derby but these horror videos scare the life out of me 😅
@tanhem5639
@tanhem5639 3 года назад
@@JamesSherlouk from learnt experience, get a feel and look at their current work. These RU-vid videos were what sold Artisan to me!
@garethg2501
@garethg2501 3 года назад
Regarding the ring circuit, instead of connecting all 4 legs into the breaker, could you just Wago one leg of each ring together to form one big ring? Also do you have any tips for sizing (visually) meter tails? I struggle so much with this. P.S. You can actually get VDE "Dentist mirrors" lol
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Yeah that could have worked
@jamesfoxley6038
@jamesfoxley6038 3 года назад
@GarethG, I hear ya man I have same issue! Everyone else seems to have better eyes 🤣, and know instantly haha
@marrowsandoug
@marrowsandoug 3 года назад
Been let down so many times by deliveries I now only book work when I have the ordered parts in my pocession!
@alistair1978utube
@alistair1978utube 3 года назад
funeral procession? or another kind?
@CurvedSlightly
@CurvedSlightly 3 года назад
@@alistair1978utube *Possession, illiterate tradie.
@zxyqwerty123
@zxyqwerty123 3 года назад
I really hate these premiers, you click to watch and then realise there’s no content. Pointless and frustrating for subscribers especially as we’re always being asked the subscribe and turn on notifications.
@zxyqwerty123
@zxyqwerty123 3 года назад
That’s not a pop at you either Jordan it’s just RU-vid is infesting my subscriber playlist with these rather than actual content and it’s a disease they need to nip in the bud. I don’t know anyone who actually thinks it’s a good idea
@HenryLoenwind
@HenryLoenwind 3 года назад
@Ellis The DJ No, it's not a live stream, it's a video he uploaded yesterday and then he told us "hey, I just uploaded a new video, but you won't be able to watch it for another day" And here's why he did that: (Rest of comment will be added at some point in the future. Make sure to check back regularly so you don't miss it before it delete it again.)
@ChrisShucksmith
@ChrisShucksmith 3 года назад
If your 11mA of leakage isn’t returning via the consumer unit earth block, check the bonds and also clamp the water and gas pipes before and after the bonds, as it might be going out via services. You might have a screw somewhere through a live leaking it to the fabric of the building. Clamp the circuits and see if you can track it down.
@Accomplice23
@Accomplice23 3 года назад
Don't be afraid to name and shame, it's good for consumers. Wel Electrical Services (London).
@Fishbait075
@Fishbait075 3 года назад
WEL.... That escalated quickly.
@thesocialhandgrenade8474
@thesocialhandgrenade8474 3 года назад
not a good place to go for him being a business, indemnity insurance might cover a subsequent deformation court case but not worth it. it is only one opinion versus another
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 3 года назад
@@thesocialhandgrenade8474 yes that exactly. It's not a good idea to be poking the bear. if there's a real problem, i'd contact their CPS (have done it before)
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Customer has reported them
@123tinhat123
@123tinhat123 3 года назад
I use a dentists mirror on the busbar when connecting up, very handy👍
@bramcoteelectrical1088
@bramcoteelectrical1088 2 года назад
Me too
@ealingwest5750
@ealingwest5750 3 года назад
Oh dear I can read the details on the WEL Electrical Services sticker at 2:39
@UberAlphaSirus
@UberAlphaSirus 3 года назад
I googled the number, same, French yahoo email too.
@SurreyAlan
@SurreyAlan 3 года назад
Once EVs become the norm electricians fitting charging points are going to be finding all sorts of horrors that will make this existing installation look good, rewires all round I suspect, bonanza time for electricians.
@ef7480
@ef7480 Год назад
EvVs will never be the norm as there will be thousands of people who cannot afford to buy them or run them. They do not prevent polution as they just leave the polution in another country where the minerals for the batteries are mined. Watch this space lol.....
@mathman0101
@mathman0101 3 года назад
Some points for future. When using earth leakage meter beware you may not be able to read a value if clamping around the CPC as there are possible other multiple pathways to earth - the gas and water bond, you would have to remove them to see it. Looking at the imbalance on LN was the best approach. On RCD tripping you have to remember the cooker/oven has probably a capacitor built into the electronics which with the long run you had could be causing the tripping. If it was a type AC I would replace with a type A. For EV charging when you have to TT my advice is to carry a soil test kit. This has several benefits in that you put the right type of earth rod in. With soil ph around 8 or more you can get corrosion of a pure copper rod reducing the protection over time in using the charger. Two ways around this either get a copper rod which is anodized with a noncorrosive metal on the surface or get a larger steel rod. I would also surround the copper rod. In concrete as well providing more reliable earthing and reducing the possibility the earth rod resistance would go up in summer. Anyway nice work as always.
@sstorholm
@sstorholm 3 года назад
I was about to say the same thing, earth leakage can be any path to earth and back to the star point on the transformer.
@MrGruster
@MrGruster 3 года назад
Might have been worth linking out the two ring final circuits to form one ring, to avoid putting four cables away in one terminal. Always enjoy your videos! Hope the job ended well 👍
@m.bmaintenance7834
@m.bmaintenance7834 3 года назад
unfortunately work like that seems to becomng the norm, and until someone gets a grip on the industry it wont change
@julieannecharters6132
@julieannecharters6132 3 года назад
yep fast track courses and no on job experience its only going to get worse.that work is piss poor
@heatpump8566
@heatpump8566 3 года назад
My pal says most sparkys are frustrated plumbers. Great video again, really enjoyed
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
LOL
@BenCos2018
@BenCos2018 3 года назад
lmao
@terrymeade1930
@terrymeade1930 3 года назад
Plumbers are failed electrician's. Just saying haha.
@roceloi
@roceloi 3 года назад
Im a sparky and I hate plumbing...
@Geeraffe
@Geeraffe 3 года назад
nice work as always - fyi electricians insulated dentist mirrors are available - Boddingtons UK
@mfx1
@mfx1 3 года назад
You may not have measured anything on the earth cable as that might not be the route the leakage was taking. A conductor leaking due to damp may not show anything on the main earth cable.
@phoenixlogic6927
@phoenixlogic6927 3 года назад
Videos like this are really helpful for trainee electricians :)
@MyProjectBoxChannel
@MyProjectBoxChannel 3 года назад
You would think in this modern day times the rising clamp terminal that can so easy miss the bus bar , can be significantly improved on. Look how far terminals have come. For example the wago spring loaded terminal design. I often wondered how many fires have started because of a busbar not connecting properly onto a MCB. In my opinion this is a very bad design, we shouldn't have to use a dentist mirror to check the connection. We live in this technically advanced age. Electronics has moved on leaps and bounds. Electrical installation techniques seem very old fashioned.
@MalcolmCrabbe
@MalcolmCrabbe 3 года назад
I watch quite a few channels like this, and there seems a trend where when poor workmanship is found that doesn't meet code those who discover it don't want to name and shame or report them to the authorities that govern the installation standards. Maybe if there was some form of reporting, and some for of registration like in the gas industry there would be less cowboys around and installations would be a lot safer as anyone cutting corners would be "struck off" or have to pass some form of exam
@eric4709
@eric4709 3 года назад
At 27.25 - Ref measuring eth leakage current in main earth conductor - but NOT seeing any ? ( although the instrument appeared to show "OL" ie overload - it did show a current dying away to a small value when you manually switched ranges - so -was there in fact any current there? - - a bit vague here since you didnt stop "long enough" on this part to reach a steady reading) And - you said "you were not sure why this was so" when you had actually established there was indeed leakage current - so why is this ? Just prior to 27.25 you measured earth leakage current by clamping the test meter around BOTH line and neutral tails - which showed just over 11mA of earth leakage. This test device essentially works as a "current transformer " in the clamp probe which is "seeing" the "residual" magnetic field of the two line and neutral conductors This is because the magnetic fields surrounding the two conductors (tails) are in opposite phase since the current in the conductors are flowing in opposite directions - and hence the magnetic field will cancel ONLY IF the currents are EXACTLY equal - AND in PRECISE OPPOSITE PHASE ( point worth noting if some of that leakage current is "capacitive" (or inductive) in a final circuit) Because in this case these currents are NOT equal ( or also not in precise antiphase) - there is thus a small residual magnetic field that the probe "sees". NOW the IMPORTANT point here is the probe does NOT "know" whether that field it is "seeing" is from ONE conductor - OR - the sum of many - or - other words - the probe MUST and WILL work just the same on a single conductor carrying a current that produces the "same" magnitude of field So ... The Main earth - why no current ?? - we have established that the measuring device WILL measure current on a single conductor - thus- Since therefore - you saw NO current in the Main earth conductor - it MUST THEREFORE mean that the leakage current of 11mA or so MUST be going elsewhere - and - the only way you could "track" this down is to repeat the "two wire" clamp test for EACH final circuit -and see which one(s) are contributing to the 11mA. My guess is you will find that the current is going via circuits that have "other" external paths to ground of low impedance - so the main earth lead carries little of this leakage current "AT THE POINT" where "you measured" it. Having said all that - I'd like to know how accurate this TIS 560 is - when measuring very small currents of a few mA - This could be a good equipment "test " video for you to do !
@dextergodfrey7086
@dextergodfrey7086 3 года назад
Instead of adding two rings into the CB - could you of linked the rings in the board? Making one ring? Obviously considering the total length. Love the videos ;)
@Robvdh87
@Robvdh87 3 года назад
That out of tune pianomusic makes me cringe every time. But I do like the rest of the video ;-)
@thepowerisinyou2886
@thepowerisinyou2886 3 года назад
Ye its painful and needs to disappear. No offence to the uploader as his content is excellent.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
@@thepowerisinyou2886 thanks I will tell my editor to axe that music
@Thegardener87
@Thegardener87 3 года назад
I really like your videos but the motion sickness is real!
@sosurko
@sosurko 3 года назад
The dentist mirror you can get plastic ones. I use a plastic one its really handy
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Nice
@Vintagesoundz14
@Vintagesoundz14 3 года назад
Why didnt you connect one of the lives from the downstairs ring with one of the upstairs, same for neutral and earth then you would have one big house ring. solves the problem of having 4 cables in a breaker.
@briansunderland8992
@briansunderland8992 3 года назад
When I lived in the UK in Luton worked as a washing machine tech 1966 to 1970 went out to Cambridge , Stevenage , North London all villages around Luton and Bedford even at times Canvey Island most I could do any day was 4-5 jobs 70 thousand miles a year 8- 12 hours Monday to Friday over half the time in traffic lasted before I had a minor heart attack so Jordan I know about stress and frustration with parts not delivered
@robswingler
@robswingler 3 года назад
Earth leakage clamp is always best to put round the tails for an accurate reading as the main earth will probably have abit of diverted neutral current going through it . That’s why it was overloading on the mil amp range.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Thanks
@Moletrouser
@Moletrouser 3 года назад
Is that (unmeasured, but apparently more 20mA) earth current inductively coupled then? It would seem to be much larger than the live-to-neutral imbalance.
@grahammchardy5531
@grahammchardy5531 3 года назад
Do love the dentist mirror for checking. A great idea. A phone can sometimes be too big to get in there properly.
@delcat8168
@delcat8168 3 года назад
Oddly, his dentist uses a continuity tester to check his fillings ;-)
@somewaresim
@somewaresim 2 года назад
Just wondering why the charger wasn’t obtained before installation date? Relying on on-the-day deliveries seems a bit risky.
@westinthewest
@westinthewest 3 года назад
Those red and black tails rising into the consumer unit might turn out to be compliant. I've seen similar ones where there are two layers of PVC, with the sheath using the same colour as the insulation. It can be tricky to be sure without stripping a small section and seeing if it comes off in separate layers. I wonder if the cable can be confirmed as sheathed if it has the usual markings on it like BS6004 6181Y?
@dirkus3722
@dirkus3722 3 года назад
Hello from US (please send help). Thanks for the video; always cool to see interesting differences between US and UK.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
👍😁
@TBFSJjunior
@TBFSJjunior 3 года назад
Same from me here in Germany. Even though UK wiring is similar, we have 3 phase most of the time over here.
@grahamwise5719
@grahamwise5719 3 года назад
The metal box is original to the house, the consumer box is where the main switch and fuses were. This would have been the rubber cables usually in the wall cavity dating from the 1950s.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Thanks
@steve83803
@steve83803 3 года назад
Metering cupboards are just that...for metering equipment, cut out, meter and DPI when fitted. Now getting more and more crammed with PV isolator and associated wiring but never (yet) found a CU in one! Surprised how the DNO fitted a 100A fuse in an 80A at best cut out.
@steve83803
@steve83803 3 года назад
Consumer unit within 150mm of a live gas supply.......oooops!
@evguysltdianlawrie2274
@evguysltdianlawrie2274 3 года назад
The BG garage consumer unit IP65 is the best product they make. The remainder of the consumer unit range is bloody awful! Any attempt to do RCBO’s causes the din rail mountings to fracture 😡 Contactum on the other hand, I do like. I’m glad you said the DNO were going to upgrade the old cable head. I’ve an ace relationship with SP Energy Networks sub contractors IQA. 70% of all EV Chargepoint I fit need the cable head upgraded. Also, came across a new build recently with a series 7 head. Thought it would have an 80Amp fuse, which is standard....Nope! 60Amp! Thankfully, I carry 80Amp Lawson’s in the van.
@mikeiver
@mikeiver 3 года назад
LOL, rest assured that we have savages here in the US that do the very same kind of rubbish work and pass themselves off as electricians. Here in the US the breaker for a standard 32Amp car charger is a a 40Amp unit due to the 80% rule we have. Our chargers here have GFCI function built in. I suppose we could install a GFCI type breaker in the panel box as well but our code does not require it yet since it is built into the chargers. We do install GFCI breakers for exterior outlets.
@bobbyzilla
@bobbyzilla 3 года назад
Doesn't like naming and shaming. Shows company name, phone number and email address 😂. Is this how the French do electrical work? 😜
@leonblittle226
@leonblittle226 3 года назад
"I'm working in London today"......... get this man a doctor he isn't well.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
😂
@AndyK.1
@AndyK.1 3 года назад
Customers must love his work !! ££££
@geoffupton
@geoffupton 3 года назад
so thats london, cambridge?! 😂😂😂
@paulryan3283
@paulryan3283 3 года назад
What: he is in London and couldn’t go pick up the charger from the supplier and complained throughout the whole video about his day . If you spent less time bullshitting and more time working, and actually did a full days work, it would be better viewing for subscribers.. donut
@Cablesmith
@Cablesmith 3 года назад
Old trusty BG 😩
@OldFliersGroup
@OldFliersGroup 2 года назад
I would have named those electricians who did such a bad job. Nothing changes if you don't
@markhoulding1938
@markhoulding1938 3 года назад
Good vid Like your positive attitude am sure your customer will be grateful 👍
@effervescence5664
@effervescence5664 3 года назад
The sad thing is there was no reason to gland the top of that consumer unit given it's already in an enclosure which you need a "tool" to get into. . Also why didn't you crimp one ring to the other ring then use the 2 remaining legs into the breaker. Edit: instead of using a dentist mirror you could just mount the bus bar into all the breakers outside the unit then clip them all in together and re-terminate the circuit conductors.
@Mattja1
@Mattja1 3 года назад
It doesn't work around the earth because the leaked current is escaping the property by another path. By putting it over the tails and not the earth you measure what the RCD is actually seeing, which is the total leakage from the property not just what comes back down the circuit cpcs.
@0xdeadc0de
@0xdeadc0de 7 месяцев назад
I believe the installed MCBs with 32 A are too big for this cables because the I think they are only 2.5mm2 or? (focus on the MCB with up to four cables). In my country we use MCBs up to B16 for 1.5mm2, B20 for 2.5mm2 and B32 for 6mm2 (depending on the total length of the circuit a MCB can be smaller). In my opion a MCB is to protect a cable. 32 A (~7400W on 230V) are too much for this small cable.
@MWSRD
@MWSRD 3 года назад
Just my thoughts BUT Induction hob (26-32A) and a fast charge port on one 50A supply I DON'T Think so..........loading the line including the tails (100A max!) !!!!!!!....mmm I got told off for having a 40A rcbo on 6mm armoured cable for my workshop should have been 35A! so what is "future proof" AND then you decide to switch the kettle and electric oven on at same time...HEHEHE all the best.
@johnclapshoe8059
@johnclapshoe8059 3 года назад
Another issue having this armoured cable wired directly from the mains means there is no discrimination from the other circuits. In other words, you can't isolate it, even if the mains switch is open/off. I really don't like installing load centres (consumers units) under kitchen bench tops, as main switches are meant to be readily available. (Australian prospective)
@welshman2081
@welshman2081 2 года назад
Hi I am considering a home charger for Toyota Rav 4, in the near future, the supply to the garage has a 32amp cable of which supply my woodworking machinery, the cable is approx 10 meters long from the consumer meter, would I need a say 40amp cable to supply the home charger. Thank you welshman 2081
@trevorstevenson4038
@trevorstevenson4038 2 часа назад
I love a solid piece of sh1t switchboard hey. Theyre a feast for the eyes!
@johnfenlon458
@johnfenlon458 3 года назад
Great Job!! Good idea to use a circle mirror to see inspection. I am concerned about 100A of the main black box where brown 16ml wire. I noticed Brown 16ml wire on top touched on Natural (yellow) wire. I think you should take out the Natural (yellow) wire from brown 16ml wire then move above near the Main black box. Can you try this? Need a good safety. Thumb up!! Cheer!
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 3 года назад
That was an interesting thing I didn't know when you mentioned USB sockets creating a relatively high earth leakage current. Personally I hate the things as I think most of them are cheap and nasty chinesium curtain burners but it's a useful bit of knowledge to have.
@KX36
@KX36 Год назад
any modern device will have some earth leakage. Switching power supplies in modern devices have a class Y capacitor across the transformer to suppress EMI. The secondary side is earthed (class I) or double insulated (class II). The primary is live and neutral rectified. capacitor from live/neutral to earth creates earth leakage. Personally I don't like USB sockets because they're like having the cheapest £5 charger permanently plugged in. They won't have modern fast charging features, so they'll be obsolete almost immediately, they probably don't have great isolation from primary to secondary, and they're probably very noisy and wasteful with their standby power.
@evzenhedvabny6259
@evzenhedvabny6259 3 года назад
The weird leakage might be via gas or water pipe. On one of my jobs i found 2Amps running in a water pipe . Even when main circuit breaker was off.
@sambothebold
@sambothebold 2 года назад
The DNO fuse was still in right? But you had the main tails isolated via that low level isolation switch?. But there was no lock off on the switch as far as i could see. Ive had main switches that switch almost with the touch of a feather. I was getting twitchy bum hole syndrome when i saw you working on the tails 💩 I also love the mirror for breaker/bus bar inspection. Absolutely great tip Jordan. You are a real inspiration and a bit above the rest when it comes to sharing your business on social media. Well done, hope i can be as good as you one day
@Fozzie68
@Fozzie68 Год назад
I know who rewired the house as it was obvious from your first observation on the fuse board . More care needs to be taken, when disrespecting other sparks even if it is a SHODDY JOB !!
@MSGaddicts
@MSGaddicts Год назад
Random question... Why was amoured cable used since most of the install was inside of the property. Would standard 10mm be ok?
@JOSHIMEOW
@JOSHIMEOW 3 года назад
I would of doubled up on the lighting circuit mate
@TheChipmunk2008
@TheChipmunk2008 3 года назад
Problem with that is that you lose the whole house with one trip
@6A8G
@6A8G Год назад
Why so many ads? There have been six ad breaks in this episode alone. It seems like the more Artisan stuff I watch the more ads are inserted. Pity 'cos the content is superb:(
@ashmanelectricalservices4318
@ashmanelectricalservices4318 3 года назад
It's not an outdoor meter cupboard Jordan, it's a mantel unit and cupboad, very common in flats and tower blocks in London.
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Thanks, you can tell i'm not from London!
@ashmanelectricalservices4318
@ashmanelectricalservices4318 3 года назад
@@artisanelectrics The previous installer should have just fitted another mantel unit, they're not that hard to come by. The whole stuffing glands on top of the consumer unit is complete gabage. On a side note, I probably would have waited till the EV charger to have been delivered before travelling all the way down to London, did you estimate for 2 days labour?
@trevorpreston6351
@trevorpreston6351 Год назад
Hi Jordan I used to work in London most days and what you can see would be classed as good not by me though I used to see this type of work is normal I used to belong to the niceic but retired 2 years ago I always use to moan to the nic this is terrible work carried out by niceic contractors why are they never removed from the role but it always fell on deaf ears I gave up in the end as I think they thought I was a miserable old bigger Still keep your good work up I always watch your reviews P S the closer you get to the centre of London the worse it gets as everyone there is a sparky Thanks Trevor
@tonyross2947
@tonyross2947 7 месяцев назад
Jordan, I bet that isolator in the bottom-right at 28:21 is annoying; irritating me as it's not been mounted as correctly plumb. I know it's not something you did.
@nathd1748
@nathd1748 2 года назад
Piss poor work. NICEIC don't give a shit. So long as they are getting their fees and bonuses and pension contributions.
@keithquestedelectrical9785
@keithquestedelectrical9785 3 года назад
Boddington do a really good insulated mirror Good video Jordan
@artisanelectrics
@artisanelectrics 3 года назад
Cool thanks
@KX36
@KX36 Год назад
Earth leakage clamp around the tails will tell you the earth leakage through any and all paths. clamp around the earth wire will only tell you the current through that wire. the leakage is not necessarily going through that wire. could be through the plumbing or through the actual literal ground. I think.
@mwkoskamp1
@mwkoskamp1 3 года назад
Why would you expect the meter to work around the earth cable? I understood that you have a leak if current is leaking to earth anywhere from the circuit. So e.g. in the garden where it directly leaks into the wet ground. It wont take the long way round trough the earth cable right? A leak is detected because not all current leaving the RCD actually returns on neutral.
@GodmanchesterGoblin
@GodmanchesterGoblin 3 года назад
Exactly what I thought when watching this last night. And I'm not a sparky...
@the1beard
@the1beard 3 года назад
Get a dental plastic mirror
@AbbottsSecurity
@AbbottsSecurity 5 месяцев назад
Earth leakage clamp not working on earthing conductor- parallel paths via water, gas, etc
@johnfenlon458
@johnfenlon458 3 года назад
Jordan, Great work! Thumbs up! Cheers! (I am going send you a messenger.)
@jonathanstephens7804
@jonathanstephens7804 3 года назад
Nice work mate not too sure about the 2 rings off one mcb I would of preferred to of replaced the devices with contactum rcbos which would of left 2 spare ways to use. Obviously a cost but a much better install along side the shiny new charger :)
@ishkebab
@ishkebab 3 года назад
For the ring, why not connect one original leg to the other ring leg and vise versa so you only have two cables entering the mcb, but the 2 rings have been extended to 1?
@elsdonsparks
@elsdonsparks 3 года назад
the length of the making it one ring may have been to long for the max Zs ?
@ishkebab
@ishkebab 3 года назад
@@elsdonsparks it’s on an rcd so Zs will not be an issue, not great relying on the rcd for fault protection but there you go.
@AndyK.1
@AndyK.1 3 года назад
No advantage
@nigellewis804
@nigellewis804 3 года назад
I just bought a 110 v transformer so I can power American items but it trips my rcbo is that normal
@petertallowin6406
@petertallowin6406 3 года назад
Yep, lower left 4 looks a little loose..... Awesome tip on that mirror. Lovely job Jordan. You have probably mentioned this before but where did you get the cable stripper? Is there a link to it on your tools page?
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