SHOGUN: The Historical Events That Followed The Ending Of The Show 

Chernobyl is at the same level too in terms of emotional impact and historical authenticity

Definitely the best I've seen this year! If they don't win an Emmy for the costumes, I call heresy!

@@AhmedRizk3 Chernobyl is a totally different animal; it's non-fiction drama. Shogun is a drama of a different type.

@@aishaalamoudi599 but the quality is similar, right? That's his point. I didn't watch Chernobyl because I didn't want to witness tragedy after tragedy and get depressed. A lot of other people avoided it for the same reasons. So, yeah that does make it a different animal

Yes. It is at least among the best. I read the two volume novel when it first came out and then watched the first miniseries. In many ways this version of the story was the best. Every aspect of this show displayed a level of competence rarely seen in television miniseries.

He did. We were the Yabushige in all of this

He’s like Batman. Always have contingency plans for everything, except that Toranaga killed a lot of people.

Yabushige's smile confirmed it..

Unironically exactly what you’d expect out of a Shogun

He might despise himself for doing it, but it's a medieval era ​@nont18411

One of the ways he did it was a strict isolationist policy. But apparently thats Xenophobic in America.

​@@neoasuraEras of peace only come from empires/kingdoms having a culture that the rulers vehemently support. You'll notice the "peace" that globalists push is just consolidation of power and money with culture constantly being whittled down.

⁠@@neoasurau do realize that the USA become great by accepting immigrants

Nothing happened after the ending as this is a work of fiction and only loosely based on historical people.

Possibly, but why would Mariko's cross be one-of-a-kind? I would think they might be quite plentiful in Portugal, even that many priests in Japan might have the same cross, either just their own, or to give to prized converts. I think the writers left it to the audience to decide for themselves. There's room for doubt anyways. Perhaps they thought sticking to the real-life fate of Adams (remember, even his name was changed) was too depressing and imagining the possibility of his dying with English grandsons around him was a happier ending.

I thought adams married and died in Japan? Just watched a docu on him and they said he married a local woman and never left japan.

@@squirlmy I mean Adam's story isnt depressing at all lol, the real Adam actually send money he get from the Shogun to England. He got his own land, married a wife and get paid handsomely. Becoming a trusted advisor to the Shogun and became Samurai. That is the dream life lol.

@@Jacobarch1981 He did die in Japan. But he made trade missions in the area.

How did it finally end after 250y?

From my understanding, the Retired Shogun system was set up as a sort of internship/ on_the-job training scheme and for the country to slowly acclimate to the new Shogun's style of rule as time went on. The Retired Shogun still held majority power while the New Shogun would enact smaller and less drastic policies that he thought would better address present issues. Over time, power would be transferred to the New Shogun until the Retired Shogun passes away.

@@ZliBokser Americans arrived and forced Japan to open its country to foreign trade, which led to a civil war that the Imperial forces overthrew the shogunate that they saw as “weak and ineffective”. Once the shogunate’s gone, the new government emerge in a new revolution called “the Meiji restoration” which modernized the country both economically and militarily. This was the same government that sparked world war 2, by the way.

It was the end of Samurai period, and the beginning of the industrial period.

@@ZliBokser The Meiji restoration happend. There were pressure to restore the de-facto power to the Emperor(Japan has had an emperor for nearly 2000 years, but much of it they had no real power). At the same time, the Americans(led by Commodore Perry) with their steam ships arrived and forced Japan to open up trade(they had been isolating themselves during the Shogunate). This triggered a crisis/civil war that forced the Shogun to step down and return power to the Emperor(the Meiji Restoration). Japan then rapidly modernized, and among other things, the Samurai as a class were abolished, leading to rebellion among the Samurai that wanted to restore the power of the Emperor in the first place.

Saved me 10 minutes, thank you!

Funny cos Yabushige's actor is in Silence

@@EliKav really? how's the movie? is it good?

@@shubhamyadav8484 yeah its good

You'll see spiderman. 😅

How is the novel compared to the show? Worth a read?

@@ridalger16 It is absolutely worth the read. Because a novel has so much more time to unfold, and flesh out characters and plots, it has a lot more depth.

@@ridalger16 The ending is roughly similar, with the novel describe a bit more about the aftermath. But if people who are did not like the ending and expect the book to be better then they are wrong lol.

It encouraged me at lesst. I began the book , the 80s show and will read the entire Asian Saga Tai-Pan , Gai-jin , Rat King , Noble House and the one about Iran

​@ridalger16 I finished the book a few weeks ago. I thoroughly enjoyed it. John Blackthorne is a good character and has growth and gives a cool insight on life in Japan during this time. It is an very long book though (1600 pages total), but I found it hard to put down once I started reading it.

Glad you enjoyed the video!

Hopefully it’s with Fuji sama. She stops being a nun and pillows with blackthorn 😋

@@josephmccartney5951 Oh man, my very thoughts. Off the charts cute.

To bad there won’t be anymore seasons

The actor and Producers said if there is a high demand they can do season 2 based on the real historic events ​@stephenperez9341

Not really time yes but it was never meant to be more then one season.

My Grandmother was r*ped by the Japanese during WW2 when they invaded and occupied South East Asia. They also bayonetted her youngest child (my uncle) right in front of her too. They killed many people during their occupation and now people are falling in love the Japanese Culture.🙂

i agree, John is too important for the shogun, he will not let him leave

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@@pali_ahathe actors are old co-star pals that played rivals

@@Otterdisappointment , oh thank you

To me, Asano is Captain Nagata from the crappy Battleship movie 😂

@@forrestgumball That was entertaining, who doesn't like an Alien 👽 movie?

Ooooh nice ! Toranaga really wanted to be the Shogun all along ! Love it.

​@@Rudi_Mentary723 lol people are too innocent falling into his trap. He was always pretending refusing thr shogun title and acting like he just accepted it as a final move to defend his life in the show, but actually he really wanted it. Remember the example he gave to his son? "Always let people do it for you and react to their mistake"

@@liamlvp3886 Yess. His talks with his son gave us a few spoilers. I didn't think much about them then, now I see the relevance.

@@Rudi_Mentary723 Actually if we look at the real history, his very first sign of ambition to become a shogun was so obvious like hiding in a plain sight. Tokugawa Ieyasu was born “Matsudaira Takechiyo”. However, the name Matsudaira wasn’t that prestigious so he went to the emperor and asked him to give him the new family name into “Tokugawa” because the name “Tokugawa” has a connection to the Minamoto clan (the clan of former shoguns) which made Ieyasu now an eligible candidate to become a shogun. And he did the name changing thing ever since he’s 19 when he’s still a vassal of Oda Nobunaga, the leader of Japan at that time. And since he became the shogun when he’s 60, that means he had been planning to seize the throne for 41 years! Real patience here.

@@nont18411 Patience, ambition and enough motivation...and not a hint of it shown (atleast in the show)..he really played us all along !

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for the lecture jeeze

Well, no. In fact, Ieyasu had been secretly courting the various factions for quite some time. The defection of some of the other clans from Ishide was only partly based on the death of akechi Tama, it was also based on the fact that Ishide was not a general but a bureaucrat. At least one important Daimyo on Ishide's side at Sekigahara refused Ishide's orders on the basis that he only took orders from generals. And sekogahara itself was largely chosen by Ishide. The two armies bumped into each other in a dense fog. Meanwhile lots of other interesting things were going on - Ieyasu's eldest son was kept from the battlefield because he was busy trying to take the Sanada clan's castle - but because sanada was such a respected general the Tokugawa side actually went about the siege at a very slow pace and the castle was never taken. Meantime quite a few of the clans at sekigahara didnt actually fight and switch sides until it was obvious that Ieyasu was winning. So in a sense it was sheer luck, because if the battle had gone badly for ieyasu at the outset - and it nearly did - then Ishide's supporting clans would not have switched sides and the numerically inferior Tokagawa forces would have been massacred. Sekigahara was a huge gamble that Ieyasu was forced to take and it worked. Such is history.

@@tileux wow more words jeeze louise

@@SirReginaldBumquistIII you being forced to read it, buddy?

It's interesting that you parrot the conclusions of old Japanese historians concerning Naomasa. Were there any battles left for him to fight after Toranaga got the Shogunate? Was Li Noamasa a good person? Was he good to his troops and/or to conquered armies? I have little context, but from one extreme, like the Viking desire to die in battle, to the other; how did he treat people outside of directing armies, I'm not so sure his death was such a great loss compared to the many others who died in the struggles. It does seem odd to me, that in battles where hundreds, perhaps thousands died, the cost would be measured by one "great" general. Only those who wish to glorify that military past would hold this general in such high esteem. I'm much happier that Edo prospered so much it became Tokyo, where many millions live today.

I highly recommend the Korean Yi Sun-sin trilogy about the Imjin Wars. They are the highest grossing Korean movies of all time for a very good reason.

​@@fludbludah yes, Admiral Yi One of Korea's war heroes that's literally a force to be reckoned with against the invading Japanese

Glad you enjoyed it!

What kind of honor is being sworn to your Shogun and later being responsible for his son's death? I mean, its shady. He sent Mariko on suicide mission. Allowed his general to cut his belly to support a deceit. He tormented the village for something he ordered - the burning of the ship. I think Napoleon is more honorable figure. A lot of others for a fact.

Awesome, thank you!

Glad you enjoyed the video!

Thank you, glad you've enjoyed the videos

Yeah it was incredible wasn't it!

More seasons would stretch out the story, as most of the characters have already reached their climax. Shōgun In it’s own interpreted story ended it well.

@@ultimatecrusader9907100% but the show has essentially created a universe in which it could continue to depict historical events or add their own dramatical spin in order to extend the masterpiece they’ve created

@@jordanbrooks4834 possibly in the near, but not soon, future. I want Shōgun to marinate in its glory as it intended before setting up a spin-off.

@@jordanbrooks4834 You have Taipan set in Hong Kong and Gaijin set in Japan at the end of the Shogunate. Both take place around 200 years later and set in the same universe as Shogun. That is your sequel or "2nd season"

I had the same thought when i first heard the premise of shogun

Blackthorne doesn’t give off that vibe tbh he was respectful of the culture

@@XaldinX The real person he's based on did have children with a Japanese wife. And we don't actually know that the Blue Eyed Samarai's father was evil, she just thinks he is.

Glad it helped! There's still a lot more story to tell if they go ahead with S2

#3 Even more unlikely they ever "got it on", lol. That was definitely made-for-tv sexual dalliances.

Let me add some more The term "hatamoto" did not weigh any meaning before the existence of Shogunate. Lord don't appoint someone as hatamoto for what they were referring in the series. Usually a person (samurai) will be appointed as kerai or kashin. Ochiba (Chacha) was referred as daughter of Kuroda (Nobunaga) in the series. In reality she was the niece not daughter. Toranaga's son was modeled after Hidetada. He didn't die like was portrayed in the series and later will become the 2nd shogun. Toranaga's half brother never betrayed him in reality. There was actually Council of Elders (5 big daimyos) + Council of Magistrate (5 people) instead of Council of Regents (5 people) Mariko's in law, Toda family was portrayed as hereditary retainer of Toranaga in the series. In reality however Hosokawa, the family they based on was the retainer of Ashikaga's last shogun alongside Akechi (Gracia's father) before they both switching side to Nobunaga following the exiled of Ashikaga. In the series (not sure the book), they only show Osaka castle and Edo castle. In reality during 1600 there were many castles all over Japan albeit not as sophisticated as Osaka castle and usually a daimyo has castle to take care and don't have their house built near fishing village like Yabushige. The real counterpart of Yabushige, Honda Masanobu was only becoming daimyo after Shogunate is founded. Feel free to add more

I think that would be a mistake. It would be better to adapt james clavells other books where it includes blackthornes Japanese descendents. The books return to 19th century Japan that includes toranagas descendents.

the new version deviated significantly with the book. for one thing anjin san was able to obtain japanese crew for his ship

Tbf, the book ends pretty open as well.

I recommend you a show named “Sanada Maru”

It truly was!

they already said there's no season 2 lol

@@johnnielurkereven after the success of season 1? I would love to see a season about the battle

@@jamesawwyea stubborn ass lmao

Nah they gotta leave this now. They should let it exist for the masterpiece that it is

@@BrainPilot haha no i meant your the season 2 ! :D

What is it called??

@@SeanCuebas-zl5my Age of Samurai: Battle for Japan

Yes a bunch do! You can look up an existing Tokugawa today.

Family history and lineage plays a very important role in Japan. During Tokugawa's time, your family had to come from a lineage of samurais to be considered for important posts like Shogun.

Yes, the Tokugawa family still exists

Yeah three very good shows!

They do. But I think if they looked into doing a prequel that would be awesome!

yes

Yes, it did, and it was called the "Meiji Restoration" which happened in 1868.

thats led to the event of the last samurai

Yes you have a point! Ishida usually portrayed (I talk based on Popular culture) as someone with poor diplomatic skill, unbendable to rules, and unfriendly. People who sided with him basically either those who indebted to Hideyoshi or those who hate Ieyasu.

It would have been good if there were more episodes for sure, but only because I don't want to leave the universe!

Haha yes! The best and comprehensive series ever talking about Sekigahara....and more 👍

Where they used in the battle ?

@@JeffreyBodwell Yes and yes. Cannons were said to have been used at the battle of sekigahara by both sides, but I believe this fact is disputed. Cannons were 100% used at the siege of Osaka in 1615 by the Tokugawa. I believe it was even William Adam's own cannon that was used in that bombardment. Cannons we again used during the Meiji Restoration in great amounts, along with other more modern weapons.

a lot of what this video attributes to Adams was actually done by or done to Jan Joosten van Lodensteyn who was the 2nd mate of the ship "de liefde". While yes Adams was made to make western style ships for Tokugawa, it was van Lodensteyn who was made the main advisor on trade and foreign relations and was kept close at hand in Edo with a lavish estate where modern day tokyo central station is located. Adams and the rest of the crew eventually did get permission to leave Japan if they wished to do so but van Lodensteyn was never given such permission since he was just too valuable and important to let go.

@@mrfun177you must be dutch 🤣🤣🤣

because he might wan to remain on good terms with English and/or Dutch. Remember the rebellion of these governments paralleled his own, demonstrated by the stated mitigating factor: "If we win". At the least he might want to continue to play off the warring factions against each other. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. It would not be very strategic to kill sailors just because they had "no redeeming qualities". They also never really posed any threat. Nothing to be lost by letting them return home, and perhaps gain some good will.

​@@mrfun177 Adams did do these things. There are historical records that substantiate it. I have seen the actual letters that Adams wrote and were written about him by contemporaries, that detail his activities, status and achievements in Japan. They were publicly exhibited a few years ago. The Dutch seem to think that in order to get equal recognition for Lodensteijn, who was not featured in Shogun, they need to denigrate Adams. One thing that also happened in real life is that the Dutch betrayed Adams, they destroyed the letters he asked them to convey back to England, as they didn't want the English to also begin trading with Japan. As this video explains though, he did eventually link up with an early English trade delegation there.

The only part about her in Shogun that’s diverged from real life are probably her relationships with Blackthorne and Ochiba. The rest are in line with actual Hosokawa Gracia.

I did it because in the show they were addressed as Ishido and Toranaga so I thought it would make it easier to digest when comparing. I understand where you're coming from though!

The focus of the book (and this TV series) is more on the political intrigue and the clashing of wills and personalities rather than the action of war. Remember that Toranaga early on in the show said "Why is it that the people who have never been in battle are the ones most eager for it?" or something to that effect.

TBH the series has many holes and could've been better. They couldn't decide to either focus on politics or romance. They also wasted the show duration with fillers and slow development. Should they rewrite the council of regents scheming/backstories it could've been better even without showing the final battle.

It does, but sadly no season 2!

Indeed! About 15 years after the events of shogun!

THE ENEMY IS AT HONOJI!

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you must be dutch

@@jeffa4822 And? That doesnt change the fact that a lot of what brainpilot claimed were accomplishments of Adams were actually done by van Lodensteyn.