@Alonzo Harris he can, but why does he have to do that? Any particular reason? Why does he have to enter his creation, when our body have urges, desires physical needs and at the end is disposable. So he can understand his creation or?
@Alonzo Harris ok, let's assume he can't. Will you finally answer my question, why does he have to enter his creation? Stop avoiding the question. Why will we even compare creation with a creator. What does he gain from it?
@@TRUTHSEEKER12397 Colossians 2:9-14 For in JESUS dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
There is Jesus the Son and there is God the Father. They are both one, which means they are united, same as how people can say we are united with our earthly fathers through blood relation.
@@abzrakyYeah it's also soo Divine for Your Allah to hide behind a Created Veil to Hide His Glory.. What a Hypocrite here...😂😂😂 Jesus was in His Human Form.. He had to do the life processes as Human go through, He didn't have to go to the Toilet like you and I do in His Divine Nature...😂😂 You Come from those "Dawahgandist" group repeating the same Stupid Lines against Christianity which was answered and Buried to your same Dawahgandists... 😂😂😂😂
@@abzraky You're all repeating the same lame stuff that you've had answered a million times, yet refuse to acknowledge. At this point, I'm starting to think most of you have mental issues if you cannot comprehend what an incarnation is, after it's been explained so much even my 3-year old would know it. But, that's to be expected from people who follow someone who was worse than Hitler in terms of morals and you call him "prophet" and "gods favourite". Logic and understanding isn't your thing, I'm aware. Still, Jesus is waiting and will show you the way, just repent and seek him. He will set you free from the chains of Satan which hold you hostage.
@@Lessonius 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’ve never seen, heard or read a Christian trying to even attempt to explain how god needs to go to the toilet 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Or how he came out of his own creations filthy parts or how he needed to be looked after … god needed to be cared for 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us today our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.
*Revelation 22:13* I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” *Revelation 1:8* “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” *Revelation 21:6-7* Then He said to me, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost. He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. *Revelation 1:17-18* When I saw Him, I fell at His feet like a dead man. And He placed His right hand on me, saying, “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades. *Isaiah 44:6* “Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me. *The Bread of Life* And Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst." - *John 6:35* *Light of the World* Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, "I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life." - *John 8:12* *The Door* "I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture." - *John 10:9* *Good Shepherd* "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep." - *John 10:11* *The Resurrection and Life* Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?" - *John 11:25, 26* *The Way, the Truth and the Life* Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - *John 14:6* *The Vine* "I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing." - *John 15:5*
@@bobofspeakerscorner1099 John 13:13 - Jesus said to them, You call me Teacher and Lord and you are right for so I am. 🎉🎉 ( Jesus Himself said these words) John 5:23-- [23] that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. Matthew 28:17-20 [17] And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted. [18] And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. [19] Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [20] teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” Daniel 7:13,14 and Mark 14:62🎉🎉 The Divine Triune God🎉🎉✨✨✨💯💯 I saw in one of Hashim's own RU-vid short videos that he himself just proved to a guy that Jesus is God , seriously.
Can God the Father die? 1 Timothy 6:16 ICB "God is the only One who never dies..." No! Is the son (Jesus) god? Yes (according to christians). Can God the son die? Yes (according to christians the son died on the cross). So God the son is not exactly co equal to god the father. Because one cannot die (The Father) and the other (son) did die. Hence co equality doesn't exist. Thus the trinity which says all 3 persons are co equal is false.
Ha he really, Christianity destroys your logical thinking: if you go around ask a million people who never heard about religion and ask them to define who God is none of them will ever think as 3 in 1 or 1 in 3. They’ll probably say one and absolute. It’s so odd that all prophets and messengers of God that came before angels after Jesus al always preached one and only.
Looooool Riccy you must be drunk or intoxicated boy. 😂😂😂 Yeah I'm sure Jesus pbuh went around using those terms and teaching his disciples what he meant. So the disciples didn't know Jesus pbuh but bob the liar at Speaker's corner is speaking on behalf of Jesus pbuh and misquoting him at that. You people really are lost and misguided 😂😂 Point being. Jesus pbuh worshipped God Almighty. Christians who are trinitarians worship a man. The truth hurts i know. Bob got destroyed again
John 14:1-12 14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Believe[a] in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?[b] 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, so that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And you know the way to the place where I am going.”[c] 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you know me, you will know[d] my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” 8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own; but the Father who dwells in me does his works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; but if you do not, then believe me because of the works themselves. 12 Very truly, I tell you, the one who believes in me will also do the works that I do and, in fact, will do greater works than these, because I am going to the Father.
e very fact that Jesus distinguishes between MY Father/ God and YOUR Father/ God , shows He is distinct from His creation, or else He would use “OUR” Father/ God and include Himself with us
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 I don't call Allah Our father or God our father .The Almighty is our Creator ,He begets no one and He is not begotten. If any one is our Father ,it would be Prophet Adam, we all are from Him ,peace
Can God the Father die? 1 Timothy 6:16 ICB "God is the only One who never dies..." No! Is the son (Jesus) god? Yes (according to christians). Can God the son die? Yes (according to christians the son died on the cross). So God the son is not exactly co equal to god the father. Because one cannot die (The Father) and the other (son) did die. Hence co equality doesn't exist. Thus the trinity which says all 3 persons are co equal is false.
Every Christian has a new take on God. Bob just made this up according to his belief and not the belief of Jesus. Random confusion to make yourself right.. well done Bob 👏
John 14:1-12 14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Believe[a] in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?[b] 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, so that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And you know the way to the place where I am going.”[c] 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you know me, you will know[d] my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” 8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own; but the Father who dwells in me does his works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; but if you do not, then believe me because of the works themselves. 12 Very truly, I tell you, the one who believes in me will also do the works that I do and, in fact, will do greater works than these, because I am going to the Father.
You speak nonsense. take Christian Theological book and study by yourself. And you will know that Bob did not speak of his own but what Christian believe right from beginning .
@@madhyakumarachep401 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 which theological book? There are over 1000 Bible variations with thousands of theological views. None are united and most dismiss each other. The bible was never handed down from Jesus, it was made up by random people who's surnames are not even know for traceability purposes. You know them as apostles! Men who made stuff up.
@@Chatelaine0 He still destroys your argument. Show me in the Bible where God said he can never enter his creation or can not be a man. LOL. God is God and is almighty and can take on any shape that suits him. That's why Islam isn't an Abrahamic faith
@@raphaelfeneje486 *Your bible says, God does not change* (Malachi 3:6) *So God does not come into his creation or change anything what he created* *God did not come man as Jesus, according to bible*
@@jesusisSLAVEofAllah Mal.3.6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. (KJV) First of, you're stupid for quoting the Bible without understanding. God's nature doesn't change. He was talking about judgement. He's a just God and he'll be swift in judging the wicked. Secondly, God enters his creation in the Torah. He visited Abraham and also communicated to Moses. Your Allah is stupid and limited. He claimed to create, but is too limited not to enter his creation because he doesn't exist. Prove to me Allah of the Qu'ran exists??😂🤣
Very very good explanation, I've ever heard from anyone, glad to hear someone answering in the correct way, God bless you my brother, My Lord be with you and guide your way.
Can God the Father die? 1 Timothy 6:16 ICB "God is the only One who never dies..." No! Is the son (Jesus) god? Yes (according to christians). Can God the son die? Yes (according to christians the son died on the cross). So God the son is not exactly co equal to god the father. Because one cannot die (The Father) and the other (son) did die. Hence co equality doesn't exist. Thus the trinity which says all 3 persons are co equal is false.
Bob's 100% got that golden ticket..u da man Bob all praise to Ur God Jesus and the courage he's gave u to stand fearless in the lion's den.. Daniel is surely with u sir🙏
So who was Jesus praying to while on earth? Who did He cry to on the cross? When He said in Matthew 28: 19 about all authority given to Him, who gave the authority? No one in Heaven and on earth or beneath can give God any authority, because all authority belongs to Him already even before the creation of the earth
I have read the Quran. The problem is that the Quran contradicts the Bible they cannot both be right God Almighty will never contradict himself. We believe in the Holy Bible which was written over thousands of years by about 40 different people yet none of them contradict each other. Many of the prophecies contained therein have been fulfilled over the centuries such as the rise and fall of empires in the book of Daniel the Bible proves itself to be true and the Word of God as only God knows the future. The main theme running through the Bible is the plan of salvation for the human race. Since Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden man lost his relationship with God and now has a fallen nature or sinful nature this is passed down through the generations so we are all born with that sinfull nature. That is why there is so much evil commited on this earth, but God's plan was to redeem or save us so that we could live with Him forever in heaven. He commanded his people to offer a lamb, or he goat without blemish for a sin offering the blood to make an atonement for their sins. This they did for thousands of years to typify the Messiah who would eventually come himself to give his own precious blood once and for all mankind. Psalm 22 written by Nabih Daud David depicts the crucifixion of Christ and the suffering he would endure... " they look and stare upon Me by bones are out of joint, they pierced my hands and feet my tongue cleaves to my jaw, they cast lots for my garments...etc" Isaiah predicts he would be born in Bethlehem and born of a virgin Isaiah 53 gives the reason for the suffering of the Messiah " A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief... brought as a lamb to the slaughter and as a sheep before his shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth... He was bruised for our iniquities wounded for our transgressions cut off out of the land of the living for the transgressions of my people... " When John the prophet Yahya saw Jesus coming to his baptism he said "Behold the Lamb of God which takes away the sins of the world" You see Jesus fulfilled all these Old Testament Prophecies as the messiah the lamb of God he gave his life on the cross for your sins and my sins my friend, he rose from the dead and appeared to his apostles over 40 days explaining to them things of the kingdom of God and they watched as he was taken up to heaven bodily into the clouds. The promised Holy Ghost was poured out on the day of Pentecost and they began to speak in tongues and prophecy and preach the gospel throughout the world with power healings and miracles following them wherever they went with the message the good news that God had send the Messiah to redeem us at last from out sins. First of all thousands of Jews became Christians after realizing Jesus of Nazareth was the Messiah they had been waiting for and that he fulfilled the prophecies in the Tanakh (Hebrew scriptures) then the message went out to the Gentiles Greeks, Romans etc and true Christians carry on this work today. Now 600 years later Mohammed comes along who never met Jesus and says he never suffered and never died this is the main contradiction I am talking about. Big lie of the devil because the whole reason for Jesus coming was to fulfill the scriptures and give his life to redeem us and reconcile us to God. There is no more need to sacrifice animals for Jesus blood make eternal atonement for our sins. I was a stubborn atheist I did not believe in God but I heard a voice calling me to turn to Jesus I was searching for happiness in this world I was running away did not want to be a Christian until I met a girl Lead Me to the Lord Jesus Christ and showed me the path of righteousness and my eyes were opened I received the Holy Ghost and began to speak in tongues the love and joy and peace I experienced that night was amazing I was born again I knew 100% that God was real and would never leave me I knew my sins were forgiven I had a new relationship with God that I never had before. That was over 40 years ago and He has never let me down. Many Jews are becoming Christians these days when they are shown in their own scriptures the suffering messiah written hundreds and even thousands of years before. But the Rabbis tell them it's not Jesus, but it is he is their long awaited messiah and the Messiah of all mankind. We love him because he first loved us and gave his life for us. The Quran cannot be true because it denies this fact. Come to Jesus my friend he is the only way to heaven trusting in your own goodness won't save your soul.
Okay Jesus prayed to God, but Allah prayed as well. We atleast have Trinity but who did Allah pray to with the concept of Tawheed? بِسْمِ اللّٰهِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِيْمِ اِنَّ اللّٰهَ وَ مَلٰٓئِكَتَهٗ یُصَلُّوْنَ عَلَى النَّبِیِّ١ؕ یٰۤاَیُّهَا الَّذِیْنَ اٰمَنُوْا صَلُّوْا عَلَیْهِ وَ سَلِّمُوْا تَسْلِیْمًا The term یُصَلُّوْنَ(they pray) comes from yusalli which comes from salah or salat meaning pray. So english Quran readers are taken advantage by translating the verse as "shower blessings". Lo! Allah and His angels shower blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! Ask blessings on him and salute him with a worthy salutation.
@@shagunpsuresh639 would God not praise you who follows his command? Like his did with all the prophets. The Quran is a clarification to the previous scripters.
Why people can’t undrestand,both the OT AND NT in the Bible prophesied and confirmed that God came and manifest in the flesh through Jesus Christ. When Jesus speak he speak deep(with context)and figuratively. He told his apostles that when he comes the second time,he will spoke plainly. The same chapters that Jesus said “..your God and my God..”, he already said that he’ll go to his father. A mere man can’t just go to heaven; JESUS IS ONE WITH THE FATHER AS HE CLAIM TO BE! Same when jesus said,”call no man good for only the father is good; he basically saying he is God. For Jesus didn’t deny that he is good.
I am an abdul. My dad's name is abdul My mom's name is abdul My brother's name is abdul My sister's name is abdul My wife's name is abdul My uncle's name is abdul My aunt's name is abdul My cat's name is abdul And we all pray to 8 pebbles in saudi arabia and believe an elevenmonths old is a woman
Jesus also says : “ Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me?” ---- PROOF Jesus is God in the flesh ! John 14:1-12 14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. Believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, so that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And you know the way to the place where I am going.”5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you know me, you will know my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” 8 Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and we will be satisfied.” 9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and you still do not know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own; but the Father who dwells in me does his works. 11 Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; but if you do not, then believe me because of the works themselves. 12 Very truly, I tell you, the one who believes in me will also do the works that I do and, in fact, will do greater works than these, because I am going to the Father.
@@JesusisLord389 nust a critical thinking mind to recognise that all of this fictions, fantasy and superstition was created by man. All these things are man made. "You can fool some people sometime but you can't fool all the people all the time! "
Azuran i bet you didn’t understand a word bob said cuz you don’t anything about Christianity and its theology. The Son of God when became fully human, He became a servant and didn’t consider or focused on his equality with God the Father as the bible tells us. this was all so He can live a perfectly righteous life to be our representative and die on the cross. So as a fully Man, you don’t expect Jesus to be an atheist and say I have no God. Btw, the Father also calls the Son “God” in hebrews 1:8 “your throne oh God will last forever”.
Can You Answer These Questions? Isaiah 7:14; St. Matthew 1:23 - If Jesus is not God Almighty, then who is Immanuel? Genesis 1:1; Colossians 1:14 - 17 - If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, who created the heavens, and the earth Jesus or God? Genesis 49:10; Hebrews 7:14 - If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, when will our Lord spring out of the Tribe of Juda? I Kings 22:19; Revelations 4:12 - If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, how many is sitting on the throne? / Psalms 45:6; Philippians 2:11 Numbers 24:16 - 17 - If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, when will Balaam's prophesy come to pass? Isaiah 45:23; Philippians 2:1- If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, then who shall we bow to ? Jesus or God? Isaiah 45:15 - 21; Titus 2:13 - If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, then who is our savior? Isaiah 9:6 - If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, then when will Isaiah's prophecy come? If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, why when the devil was tempting Jesus," "Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord Thy God?" St. Matthew 4:17 If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, when will the Lord God of Israel visit His people to redeem them? St. Luke 1:68 If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, when did Stephen call God by His name and said "Lord Jesus"? Acts 7:59 If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, then who is the True God? I John 5:20. Deuteronomy 32:4; I Corinthians 10:4 - If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, then who is The Rock? God or Christ? If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, then Thomas must have told a lie in St. John 20:28, when he said to Jesus, "My Lord and My God". Did Thomas lie? I Timothy 3:16 - If Jesus Christ is not God, when did God come in the flesh? I John 3:16 - If Jesus Christ is not God, when did God lay down his life? St. John 3:16; I Peter 3:18. St. John 14:9 - If Jesus Christ is not God Almighty, why did He say to Philip, "When you see me, you see The Father", and there's only One Father? Malachi 2:10 Did God tell a lie when he told Saul that He is Jesus in Acts 9:5? If Jesus Christ is not God, then we must say that He's not Good. St. Mark 1018; St. John 10:14. Psalms 90:2; Revelations 1:18 - If Jesus Christ is not God, then who is He that liveth, and was dead; and is alive for evermore, (everlasting)?
@dimarisahaja6137 never heard someone say whatever is written in that book I'm not budging from it? Even slightly more than an ants eyelid to the right?
Says the man who denies Trinitarianism but believes in 3 million Gods? You're having a laugh mate! See if any Christian agrees with your faith. Go on, i dare you! 😂
*Bob does not speak about John 20:17 in which Jesus says, ‘I ascend to MY GOD & YOUR GOD’* *He is babbling something else* *This proves Jesus was FALSE GOD*
@@jesusisSLAVEofAllah YESHUA IS GOD ALPHA AND OMEGA. HE IS, WAS AND WILL COMING SOON. You can trust only when you follow with all your heart. Nobody pun in your mind. I have seen work of yeshua in my life. Then I began to follow. I'm happy now. I not only read holy Bible I read hindu granth/ Quran/ sikhs book too all meaningless. Only holy Bible works.
Can God the Father die? 1 Timothy 6:16 ICB "God is the only One who never dies..." No! Is the son (Jesus) god? Yes (according to christians). Can God the son die? Yes (according to christians the son died on the cross). So God the son is not exactly co equal to god the father. Because one cannot die (The Father) and the other (son) did die. Hence co equality doesn't exist. Thus the trinity which says all 3 persons are co equal is false.
@@theislamicjourney960not only through the bible does it say he was crucified but though history the roman emperor at time stated such as well as plenty other historical sources I'm not even Christian and I know that
@@beginnersmind7303 Firstly history is biased you do know that right? Secondly there was also CHRISTIANS IN HISTORY WHO SAID JESUS WAS NEVER CRUCIFIED AT ALL. Did you know that part of history also exists? They are called Ebeonites. And all christians who told the truth about Jesus never dying on the cross were murdered by the 3in1 polytheists. Now even if history did record Jesus dying and he did die. It proves 1 thing. HE IS NOT GOD BECAUSE GOD NEVER DIES. Thanks for proving the argument. You said "what do you get when dividing infinity". Answer: You forget Jesus has a 100% HUMANNATURE MATE. And the divine nature of Jesus did not die... only his humannature... according to christians. But the problem only grows. Because of the humannature of Jesus actually became part of God that means part of God died. But if the humannature did not actually become part of God then God never actually took on any humannature hence never became human at all. Trinity destroyed. Logic always annihilates the trinity pagan filth. Try solving it... i promise you i will burry you right here. Invite the whole christian world they will all be burried right here by my hands. Try.. go to the greatest scholar...
Can God the Father die? 1 Timothy 6:16 ICB "God is the only One who never dies..." No! Is the son (Jesus) god? Yes (according to christians). Can God the son die? Yes (according to christians the son died on the cross). So God the son is not exactly co equal to god the father. Because one cannot die (The Father) and the other (son) did die. Hence co equality doesn't exist. Thus the trinity which says all 3 persons are co equal is false.
Can God the Father die? 1 Timothy 6:16 ICB "God is the only One who never dies..." No! Is the son (Jesus) god? Yes (according to christians). Can God the son die? Yes (according to christians the son died on the cross). So God the son is not exactly co equal to god the father. Because one cannot die (The Father) and the other (son) did die. Hence co equality doesn't exist. Thus the trinity which says all 3 persons are co equal is false.
amen, as a true believer here I was confused as to why Jesus kept saying He takes commandments from His Father. I kinda understand it is through their unity but John 14:31 has me confuzzled
He didn't answer the question. In any context or perspective, it is ridiculous to say that God has a God. It's either there is one God or there are other Gods who have Gods. Perhaps some people actually believe that God can have a God but that contradicts the very concept of God.
e very fact that Jesus distinguishes between MY Father/ God and YOUR Father/ God , shows He is distinct from His creation, or else He would use “OUR” Father/ God and include Himself with us
Here we have it ladies and gentlemen ... ousis vs hypstasis ... is how Christians makes sense out of nonsense. It still begs the question ... who did Jesus pray to? To himself??
Can God the Father die? 1 Timothy 6:16 ICB "God is the only One who never dies..." No! Is the son (Jesus) god? Yes (according to christians). Can God the son die? Yes (according to christians the son died on the cross). So God the son is not exactly co equal to god the father. Because one cannot die (The Father) and the other (son) did die. Hence co equality doesn't exist. Thus the trinity which says all 3 persons are co equal is false.
@@theislamicjourney960 Good attempt to explain to a Christian but you have to read a lot to understand the meaning of Christianity I can't explain it to you in a message. If you search you will find out
@@emmanouilkavardinis7383 Actually this is called a logical contradiction. And there is no such thing as "explaning to a christian". The message of God is for all people is it not???? Therefore all people must be able go read it and IMMEDIATLY UNDERSTAND FULLY WITHOUT THE NEED FOR CHURCH OR 100 OTHER PEOPLE TRYING TO EXPLAIN. The example above CANNOT be solved. It is impossible. Therefore it is not true and something not true cannot be from God. Trinity doesn't come from God but from pagans. Greeks had a trinity. Hindus have one. Egyptians had one. All of them pagan. Christainty is no exception.
@@theislamicjourney960 I don't need to explain anything.Christ did not die spiritually.The human body died.Three days later he was resurrected During these three days he preached to the world of souls who had not known him
I don't think Hashim will ever want to debate Bob again. Muslims ask one of the most idiotic questions which all boils down from their ignorant believes.
Ignorant belief? Jesus is a servant of God all the old manuscript older than your canonized bible with the unknown authors describe him that way. Drop your roman pagan belief and come back to the religion of jesus
If u want to believe confusion and delusion ...go right ahead. My God is ONE - Abrahamic faiths are MONOTHIESTIC...NOT POLYTHIESTIC. May your heart be open to see the Truth. God is Greater than needing "the flesh". Jesus is but a Prophet with miracles given to him by God.
@@Chatelaine0 ask any rabbi and they will tell you muslims follow noah laws and are pure monotheists meanwhile they will tell you christians have pagan beliefs blood and three in 1. You are followers of Paul and not Jesus you have no dietry laws you have idols in all your churches and icons and photos and you think God is a man , christmas on the 25th of december like mythra. Took 4 centuries to create the understanding of the trinity which no chutch father believed. the true followers of jesus were the ebionites and today are the followers of muhammad peace and blessing be upon him.
I dont think the muslim wants to bring this up... because Allah prays for muhammed...thier own argument requires the conclusion that Allah has a God too.
@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 i am assuming you are referring to bible being the same as book called 'Injeel' in the quran? Injeel was the book given to Jesus by Allah. Any learned christian knows that bible is collection of books written by anonymous authors. Christians also dont believe in the book injeel. So no Allah did not approve of the bible as holy book. Injeel was the holy book and there are no records of its existance today.
100% man 100% God. Existing in the flesh and spirit at the same time. We never claimed to be rational. It's a mystery. It's not a flaw in Christianity, it's the heart of Christianity.
Philippians 2:3-7 KJV Let nothing be done through selfish ambition or conceit, but in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others. Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
@@dose143 How sure are I did not understand? are you underestimating my comprehension? You keep on debating who is the true God. You should be busy preparing yourselves for heaven. In which my heaven is not full of earthly desires unlike yours. Fornication, glutony, greed for gold and silver, authority with slaves, that is not heaven, it looks like hell. Haha hahaha
Can God the Father die? 1 Timothy 6:16 ICB "God is the only One who never dies..." No! Is the son (Jesus) god? Yes (according to christians). Can God the son die? Yes (according to christians the son died on the cross). So God the son is not exactly co equal to god the father. Because one cannot die (The Father) and the other (son) did die. Hence co equality doesn't exist. Thus the trinity which says all 3 persons are co equal is false.
@@theislamicjourney960 John 6:35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.” John 14:6-11 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” Philippians 2:5-7 Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus, who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. We don’t get the information of the trinity by our own judgement. But by what the word has told us. What the Word has written doesn’t need to be comprehended in full as long as we know it’s true. Just because you quote a passage Muslim scholars love to quote to prove their point doesn’t make it any more true. Allah prays for Muhammad explain that contradiction. (33: 56, 33: 43, 2: 157) And yes it’s pray, even your Arabic Muslim scholars will agree that it’s pray not send blessings.
The very fact that Jesus distinguishes between MY Father/ God and YOUR Father/ God , shows He is distinct from His creation, or else He would use “OUR” Father/ God and include Himself with us
Can one muslim please tell me how purchasing pre-teen wives, homosexuality when acting as the male, abortion, contraception, temporary marriage, divorce, and polygamy, all sanctioned by Islam and/or Muhammed, are God inspired? Muslims please respond!
Can God the Father die? 1 Timothy 6:16 ICB "God is the only One who never dies..." No! Is the son (Jesus) god? Yes (according to christians). Can God the son die? Yes (according to christians the son died on the cross). So God the son is not exactly co equal to god the father. Because one cannot die (The Father) and the other (son) did die. Hence co equality doesn't exist. Thus the trinity which says all 3 persons are co equal is false.
e very fact that Jesus distinguishes between MY Father/ God and YOUR Father/ God , shows He is distinct from His creation, or else He would use “OUR” Father/ God and include Himself with us
Allah seems too weak to me. According to Muslims, Allah cannot enter his creation. That is weakness and not strength. If Allah wish to be something and couldn't be that thing then he doesn't deserve to be worshipped. He is weak!
Jesus did not only came to earth to save us from our sin but also to give as example how we should live that's why he is talking like unto a son of man do pple can imitate him.
Pray for anyone Who leads people away Jesus , cause Their condemnation will be swift and terrible , cause He's the only way , the narrow gate to the Father , to Heaven
Try explaining that Muhammad someone who had sex with 9 year olds killed tons of people never once did any miracles or most of all never prophesied was a “prophet “ of Allah .
