I like how these videos are just a few years old but due to the quality of the camera and the timeless wardrobe of Paul makes it look like it could have been filmed in the early 80's.
Yes, I was noticing the camera quality too. I guess as time goes on you get more money and you get better cameras. But it's still worth a watch for sure.
Guy comes into the store and buys a pallet of soda. Employee: "Are your kids having a birthday party?" Buyer: "No, I'm gonna show a bunch of people on the internet how effective shotguns are at home defense."
Seven The guy who did it in 17 seconds described himself as a “3 gun pro” and Paul does it in 11 seconds and says “but I’m not a 3 gun pro” essentially taking a jab at the first guy
maybe the "swat cop" knows full well how effective shotguns are and is trying to convince people otherwise because he really doesn't want to be blasted by one😂
Either that or he is himself just a keyboard warrior who thinks you need an AR or AK platform rifle with 20 lbs. of attachments and a full "black ops" outfit and kit in order to defend your house against some aspiring meth-head with a baseball back, when in reality that kid is diving head first out the nearest window when you step out of the bedroom in your skivvies with a Saturday night special your dad bought in '72 and passed down to you.
Same here, I usually hate snarky because it's generally misused by idiots. Paul here backs it up, and is justified. Plus he has the same kinda dry wit with his self deprecating jokes, he's not just slinging at everyone else. He's my kind of people.
I am a cable installer. One time a customer had their house shot in a drive by. The 9mm bullet hit the stud in the wall cleanly went through kept going through a second wall then through a refrigerator before finally stopping in a bottle of ketchup no joke. The fun part of the story is I installed their security camera through the already made hole from the bullet. I don't pretend to be an expert at all but have to say bullets can and will do weird stuff at times it is just important regardless of weapon chosen is to know it and it's capability. Great video.
This is my favorite Paul Harrell video of all time. The lengths this guy will go to prove a point is second to none. He built a damn house at the range!
Realistically he could have cut the time down more by grabbing all three shells at once, loading 2 into the mag, then chucking the last through the breach.
As always. This man is as legit as we get here on RU-vid. Not everything he has to say is ideal for everyone, but he readily admits that, unlike other RU-vidrs. Plus, unlike other youtubers, he does have verifiable and certifiable background credentials and experience. Plus he's just fun to watch.
hmm youtuber or youtubee? I find a lot of people say youtuber for video content creators. What does that make us? Chopped Liver? You know what, don't answer that...
Well, Paul comes across as the kind of guy who makes a script for his videos so he doesn't need a thousand jump cuts. As for checking the guns, that is what you're supposed to do. It also makes the neurotic viewers feel less anxious, lol.
"Theres more than one type of shotgun ammo" this part really cracked me up great delivery. Thanks to Paul for providing, in my opinion, by far the best firearm content on youtube. Thanks for all the hard work I really appreciate it
It is a political issue now. Anyone that can't defend their home with a shotgun is retarded. It is pretty much the pick of the litter when it comes to home defense and it has chased away or killed more intruders than any other weapon in history.
@@gullintanni Shotguns were so effective at clearing trenches that during WW1, the German tried to have their use classified as a war crime, and they did have a somewhat legitimate case. They were clearly not doing it for humanitarian reasons (All sides were using poison gas). They did it because shotguns were so damned effective at close range.
@@TwentytenS4B8 I don't blame them. My shotgun is, and always will be, my "Oh, Shit" gun. My folks were EMTs, my mother was an ER nurse and I met a few doctors. They all agreed that shotgun wounds were the worst to treat. That's precisely why I chose a shotgun for home defense. In fact, if I could have no other firearm (especially in SHTF) I'd have a shotgun.
"pistols put holes in people, rifles put holes through people, shotguns at the right range with the right load will physically remove a chunk of shit off your opponent and throw that shit on the floor"
Isn't it refreshing? No Vickers-ish blowhard fake drama,. No macho wannabe fluff like most gun channels. No cringey humor like demo ranch or sometimes Yankee. No cheap, misinformed, hateful, anti-inclusive (and thus anti-gun backlash-cultivating) political venom-spewing like Reid Henrichs, etc etc. MAC's politics are generally reasonable, and I really respect him for publicly arguing against his own tribe over the Starbuck's non-issue when he saw gun guys being childish, hyperemotional fools. I respect Yankee for the same reason, but I can only take so much of Yankee's hokey humor. That said I'd generally just rather not watch youtube vids about gun politics or humor - generally. This channel and forgottenweapons are by far my favorites for this very reason - they present interesting facts in a straightforward way without diluting or polluting them with silly-intense music and cheesy tacticool slang, demeanors, etc like Vickers. Also, the venomous, stupid trash about "beta libtards" from Reid Henrichs belongs buried deep in the comments sections of videos about "International jewish Bolshevism" or like nonsense. Henrichs does this to whine like a child instead of arguing like a man. If your approach is to "infuriate beta-male leftists," like Reid, instead of arguing calmly like an adult, you contribute more to the alienation of urban people from experiencing firearms, and thus enjoying them and supporting relevant freedoms. Just as the left alienated those who used to be the WHOLE POINT of leftism - working people - and thus cultivated the backlash that elected Trump - people like Reid Henrichs dig the grave of the Second Amendment as the urban population grows and the rural one shrinks. Anyways, I'm happy to have found Paul because of his level-headedness too.
wtf lol what is wrong with demo ranch? Matt is an awesome guy. He never really makes videos about his opinion on anything really. He makes videos of him having fun. Not sure why you dislike him.
@@neilhillis9858 i like IraqVeterans channel. he is pretty good. Hickok i like, although he is sponsored and obviously has a bit of bias. but he has fun with his content and its clear he does. He is like the bob ross of guns lol. Paul i watch for both entertainment, and educational material. he is good at all of it, and has a no bs approach to it, and seems to truly enjoy himself as well.
@@david10291029 I like Matt ( I would personally put him on the mountain Rushmore of gun channels)but some people don't personally pertain to that type of humor I can see what he is saying when he says that he likes a straight forward level headed informed answer to his questions that Bieng Sayed I like demo ranch and his other channels but I love a good point right on the head of the nail
@King Rottennoggin You referring to the sears "J.C.Higgins Model 20?" Great guns, simple and robust, they were also made as "High standard Flite King pump"
@King Rottennoggin I can see them a mile away. If you want the same action, check out the high standard pumps, they came from the same factory, but are much more common. If you look at pawn shops, it's not uncommon to see one with that hunky square forend on the rack, usually for a mere 100 bucks
@King Rottennoggin Interestingly, Rock Island/Armscor presently makes an almost identical shotgun, called the "M5." It is just as slick, and you can have a matte black or nickel plated one for about the same price as a mossberg or remington (like 200 bucks). A few of the parts have been redesigned for manufacturing costs, and the stock is ugly plastic, but for the price, (just like the old j.c.higgins) it is a very robust and utilitarian gun, and ridiculously smooth-cycling.
It returned to it's natural habitat, I see. It can once again continue to live off the land, growing fat from the yearly salmon migration, then hibernating for the winter... Returning to the wild and becoming the Apex predator it once enjoyed being in the 70's.
@@Hernsama Also, that is a part of some police shotgun training, as well as hostage rescue training in general. Shotguns don't spread that much at close range, so it is entirely possible to put all of the shot into the hostage taker's head. That being said, it's not an easy feat to do under stress, but that goes for rifles as well.
In theory it is possible, and it's been done more than once in real life . Answer #2 - Shooting a bad guy ( who has the slightest bit of logic) from behind a hostage is a dicey proposition in any circumstances , with any weapon .
One thing though is that he's always outdoors in daylight and using hearing protection. When you wake up to a home break-in, its dark, you're using night vision, and don't have time to put on hearing protection, and you fire that weapon in an enclosed small space like a bedroom hallway, you're going to be half deaf and possibly half blind if using some of these really short barrel "home defense" shotguns that are popular now. IMO, stick with a suppressed 9mm with a laser light on it: 1) fits in a small bedside safe. 2) you have a light to make sure you're not shooting your daughter's boyfriend that snuck in for some action when just scaring him is enough 3) if you have to shoot you maintain all your senses. 4) you can easily hold the gun one handed while opening doors and what not
DumbDuck44- I believe he has some videos covering the topic of shooting at night. Paul makes very detailed videos and admits to any mistakes he’s made.
@@chesterpanda Fair enough, I haven't seen every video, just saying that the hardcore guys often don't understand or overlook the stereotypical urban apartment dweller type of lifestyle because its so alien to them with their truck out on their land. I see recommendations like a 12 gauge for home defense, but how are you going to lug a safe big enough to securely store that in the fifth floor of your apartment building that you might be moving out of in 2 months? How are you going to withstand the permanent hearing damage you are likely to incur firing that in a small indoor room without hearing protection? How are you going to ensure that slug doesn't go through five other apartments if you miss? He talks about refrigerator penetration like its a good thing for example, when for most people in the US that are in an urban environment that's a BAAAAD thing. That's one of the stupid things about the California law against lead bullets, those solid copper projectiles are going to be barrier blind and go places they shouldn't.
@@BoopSnoot i know this is extremely late but you thought he was implying that fridge penetration was good? well thats not what i gleaned from his example. also, ive shot many handguns in my own basement, never a shotgun BUT im sure this translates: It is actually about 3 times more quiet to shoot indoors than outdoors. I know it sounds like bullshit but try it. I dont know the science but for one reason or the other its pretty astonishing the sound of the report indoors vs outdoors
My favorite part? 18 minutes in they check the shotgun and allow their buddy to confirm it is unloaded and safe. Because spending an extra ten seconds to be safe is worth it. And everybody (outside of combat) should spend that time. Your safety, and everybody else's, is worth it!
It also keeps the trolls from bitching about him not checking his gun IN THE VIDEO. I and all of my buddies expect all firearms to be loaded at all times and treat them accordingly.
It’s very real. My dad is a gun nut and was showing off his arsenal to a friend. In attempting to clear the weapon he did so in the wrong order. Pulled the slide and then removed the mag, leaving a round in the chamber. He was handing the .40 to his buddy to do the old sight and dry fire, which he did with every thing he was handed before. I noticed this mistake and stopped him before we had a bedroom pop. Always be sure the weapon is clear. Even when you’re trying to show off how cool you are with your guns. Also, alcohol and guns don’t mix, which was a factor in his mistake.
@@williamkillingsworth2619 If you lock the action open then anyone can plainly see if it is empty. I always make it a practice to hand someone a weapon in a state where it is obvious that it is empty, bolt open, slide locked open, cylinder open, etc. This should be basic knowledge. If someone hands you a gun and claims it is empty always check for yourself. You will be the one responsible if you pull the trigger and it isn't. What looks 'cool' is when you don't blow your head off or hand someone a loaded weapon so they can do it for you. Always assume a weapon is loaded until you prove that it isn't.
My first firearm was a used 12 Gauge Savage Stevens 67 Series E pump at 15 after passing the Hunter Safety Course. It was good then, it’s still good now. As stated by Paul Harrell and his colleagues, it doesn’t matter what you have, as long as you can use it for your needs. Two thumbs up to Mr Harrell for pointing out and demonstrating proper use and safety of firearms. And remember, the only thing that sucks about any firearm is not having one when you need it.👍
Intent of premeditation is the dirty Harry mindset according to a slick lawyer wanting someone to come in so you can shoot them. Now hollow point ammo is being viewed as the same way
Been using it for years. For home defense I run (3) #4, (3)00, and a slug. I prefer rifles because my plan doesn’t need to worry about over penetration. Really you pick what works for you, gun and ammo.
My 72 year old father was a victim of a home invasion. He responded with a Remington 870, 12 gauge, with birdshot, No. 6. He shot the intruder at approx. 4 yards, twice. Zero drywalling, zero outside penetration of the home, a dead intruder. People that think responding to an intruder with a tactical weapon and shooting 18 rounds is going to happen, are delusional. Not to mention, in todays climate, if you think you aren't going to have issues standing there with a dead person and a tactical weapon with bullets flying all over the neighborhood, that the aforementioned scenario isn't going to cause you issues, you are again, delusional. Be smart, listen to Paul, not the online SWAT cop.
I'm gonna have to point out two issues with this comment. 1. In this comment, you call these people who disagree with you "delusional." I think you're being completely unfair to those with a different perspective and what you're saying isn't conducive to helping anyone make a decision. Stereotyping these people who advocate for the use of AR-15s in home defense as reckless just isn't good for your argument. 2. No two situations involving the use of defensive force/home defense are exactly the same. While your father may have faced one guy and only needed to expend two shots, there are situations where multiple intruders, being armed, may invade your home with the full premeditated intent to harm you. It might be way less common, but it can happen, and it's happened to people in locales as diverse as California (two parents killed by armed gang members in Oakland, in front of their children), Oklahoma (three teens with guns and blunt weapons in Oklahoma City shot dead by a man with an AR-15) and Florida (two gang members with an Uzi fought off by a mom with a handgun). 3. Officer Tim Gramins never thought he'd have to dump three whole mags of .45 ACP into a guy... Until the day it happened, when he stopped an armed robbery suspect in Skokie, Illinois. He scored four vital hits, including a hit to the heart, of the suspect, who wasn't on any drugs, and didn't stop advancing on him while firing until he took three bullets to the head. Sometimes, capacity and precision are of higher demand. You can argue in favor of the use of shotguns for home defense, that's fine. Shotguns are much better than a sharp stick, and for most people in most home defense situations, it'll be more than enough: I agree with Paul, they don't suck. However, there have been home defense situations where AR-15s and other semi-automatic rifle adapted to the circumstances better than shotguns would've. EDIT: Also, this idea of a "tactical weapon" doesn't matter as much as you said it does. Every state has the Castle Doctrine, and in those states, the amount of legal protection offered to a homeowner is *very* high, usually to the point that self-defense is presumed until *proven otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt.* Nobody is going to put you in legal jeopardy for shooting a home invader with an AR-15. Besides, Mini-14s and the like exist...
@@grantgillum8768 I agree with what you said about the everlasting matter of capacity/accuracy/stopping power when it comes to defending oneself, specially if you're a cop out on your day off and bumps into something...can't rely on minimal shots equal maximum results...it can happen, but one shouldn't count on it. As for the actual scenario he described...I kinda lean towards his end, I mean, in today's world using a high power rifle may seem like somewhat a bit too much, depending where you live. As far as multiple attackers goes, in s home defense situation, I also disagree with you, since these scenarios which you've described happened under a more sinister light (not a intruder vs defender situation but a intruder, aka murderer, vs victim situation)- what I mean is, whenever criminals face the slightest confrontation, they tend to run, unless there is a kill squad after you (which doesn't mean that they wouldn't act like one given the chance).
@@comanchedase Those weren't "kill squads." Those were criminals looking to rob people of their things, and they were willing to kill to get those things: in Oakland, they even killed two parents who did absolutely nothing wrong because they yelled out that they were calling the police. You can say "oh, most criminals will run at the slightest resistance," and that may be true, but not all situations are the same, and limiting yourself because shaky criminals are the most likely to rob your house or mug you is bad logic. If you acted in genuine self-defense, the jury isn't going to give two shits what gun you used as long as it was legal to possess. They won't care whether it was a handgun, or a shotgun, or a hunting rifle, or an AR-15. What they're going to care about is why you shot that criminal in the first place.
Paul, Thank you for being professional in your videos. My 11 year old son watches your videos with me. I'm sick of all the F-bombs and foul language from other "experts" suffering from lack of acceptance by their peers. Keep up the good work and thank you! Steve
Happy belated birthday to your 13 (?) year old son, random Steve! Paul has great videos for shooters new and old. Anyway, my personal favorite part of this particular video is how Paul and his colleagues each show each other that their shotguns are safe, as you always should.
Well watch out for his second finger when he is counting, it has a tendency to stand up all by itself. 🤣 But yes, a big reason I am here is the no profanity and family style atmosphere.
@@tatercity8355some people just swear every other word. It's nice to have a calm, disciplined voice explain important information like firearm information.
Man that's what I was thinking. When he's always wearing his shooting jacket, it him look very friendly and approachable. Kinda like the Mr. Rodgers or Bob Ross of guns. But when he's just rocking a Tshirt, he looks like a Black Hawk Down era special ops who would rip a guy in half like toilet paper. lmao
Your channel is the most relevant, most realistic, straight to the point, unbiased, facts only channel on the internet. I appreciate all of that plus the effort taken to put out these videos. Sir, thank you!
My perspective isn't so different from yours. When I came home from Vietnam, for decades, I didn't want firearms around me. Partly was do to the fact that I didn't want them around my children. Obviously, we live in different times. Now, I feel having them is a necessity. Taking from another of your videos, I want what I know. I carried a CAR15 in Vietnam and a Mossberg 500. Yes, we carried shotguns. I served with MACV and a good friend served with the 173rd. He carried a M16 and a 970. Most engagements, in Vietnam, were very close, easily within 40 yards. The only shells that were available, to either of us, was 12 Ga 00 2 3/4. There is nothing more devastating, at those ranges, as a shotgun. It remains my choice for home defense. I do have both and AR15 and a Mossberg.
@@jeremyjames1659 Because Vietnam veterans did not receive the proper welcome back they deserved. I am currently in the Marine Corps, and have an appreciation for the generations that came before us, making our problems seem trivial.
@Kevin Hart One short barrel (18 1/4") six round 12 gauge pump is in a garage-type spring loaded broom handle holder, right next to my bed. Another one is in the same type of holder, right next to where I sit on the love seat. Another between the toilet and the shower. And, another in the kitchen. I also have a 9mm at each position... but the preferred weapon, is the shotgun. Oh and, most of your reply was about the LONG GUN .223... which is longer than my shortie 12 gauge. Make up your mind.
A great book called Point Man is about a Navy SEAL in Vietnam who only used #4 Buck shot. Thank you for all of your work setting up this demonstration.
I’ve watched this video from beginning to end at least 5 times. Every time I watch it I feel more and more confident that I made a great choice for my preferred home defense weapon.
that is called confirmation bias. try watching some videos that show the reasons why having a shotgun for home defense is bad and make your own mind up.
I know this comment is a bit old, but as he stated it doesn't suck as a home defense weapon. I still would go with a pistol suppressed with 30 rounds, then a rifle, but I know my 870 won't ever let me down. Everyone has different circumstances and preferences. Nothing wrong with the old 12G.
@@waydeselwood9646 please explain the bias. He goes into the various scenarios and has the other weapons. Are you talking about different ammo selections for the rifle/handgun?
In the UK, Home defence very often ends badly for the "Home Defender" in the form of a custodial sentence!! - Even punching an Intruder too hard can be construed as un necessary force!!
@Kjs Sure but considering the average citizen is punished for even defending themselves with what would amount to non lethal force it shows you how much the lawmakers actually think of their citizens. Same goes for alot of democrat elected officials that scream how you don't need a gun but yet many of them have armed security details paid for by the taxpayers that are in the millions of dollars each year.
Let me guess, the lawmakers in the UK probably can defend their home any way they want including using a firearm but the citizens can only yell at them to leave or face jail.
“Really”....🤣Paul is so serious about teaching and hilarious in the fact of how “common sense” his lessons are and how he represents the majority in thinking. Thank you Paul!!!!!
There's no such thing as "common sense." Humans know what they know and understand what they understand because of *reason* and *experience.* If it was "common sense" to *not* touch a hot stove coil, children wouldn't touch them. However, children *do* touch hot stove coils, because they don't know any better. When they get burned, they *experience* the ramifications of their mistake and, applying their basic *reasoning* skills, *understand* why they shouldn't do such an action. The only feeling or knowledge we have intrinsically besides our basic emotions is instinct. Instinct is about survival, about *life or death.* Instinct isn't about checking guns or shooting fast. Instinct is about *avoiding death.* It doesn't encompass "common sense." Therefore, no such thing exists. You know what you know because you've *experienced* it and, because you use your basic *reasoning* skills, you've come to a logical conclusion. The whole "common sense" concept is usually just a cop-out or a catch-22 used by people who want to discredit or blame someone without actually crafting a logical argument. People have invented ways to "win" arguments for thousands of years. Take this with a grain of salt, but I believe it may have some relation to religion.
I work in restoration and all of this is really easy to break, no insulation will stop a round. Many people think their houses have that pink hell with the paper, but what I’ve seen most is ripped up fluff that falls loose. I have seen one really weird house that had, get this, drywall as insulation, it was just left overs they had stacked up inside every wall and even the ceiling. Now my experience with shooting walls is short and I’ve only done it once, I was messing around with my loaded glock 23, I had federal bulldog jhps in the gun. I didn’t realize I was pulling the trigger and bam it went thru my wall, thru the hallway and into another wall but not thru the 4th layer of drywall, I don’t know if it was because it had hit a board or just lost enough velocity. I’ve never checked on it after patching it up and I’m lucky to have not hit any wires. What I learned from that was guns are not toys and you must always treat them as loaded, I always hated seeing people rack there guns 6 plus times but after that I always triple check them. I know when they are loaded but I always check. Oh and if it matters the muzzle was about 6-7 feet away from the wall and luckily no one was harmed, long story short don’t play with guns, follow all the safety rules.
One of the best evaluations of the subject that I've seen anywhere. Experimental tests, and empirical proofs, were used throughout, on real world materials such as I would find in my own home, and my neighbor's home (I live in a duplex). I am convinced that a shotgun can be an excellent defense against home invasion, which is on the rise. And I see that with the right load, you can minimize the risk of overpenetration of walls, while still having definite capability of stoppng the threat. As a licensed protective sevices professionaI, I would recommend Paul Harrell's videos for their professional, and scientically researched content
I'm really late to the party on this, and someone may have already pointed this out, but if you're using double-ought Buck, every single squeeze of shotguns trigger puts out nine 33 caliber projectiles So two rounds from a shotgun is more lead in the air than 10 rounds from a 223
Correct. To add to that, the smaller the shot, the more rounds you get. The shorter the barrel, the wider the spread pattern. Couple that to something he did not mention. In a dark house at night with an intruder, the cycling of the shotgun action will cause most intruders to run their ass off to get out the door. Consider that the first shot where wall penetration is not a factor.
@@logictheorist Well, It might send them running. But the slide on most guns is loud enough cycling closed to be heard in a quiet house at night. Also are you seriously considering shooting at someone you can't see? When every weapon shown in the video can easily kill someone 1 to 3 rooms away? Like, turn on a light. They'll know you're armed just fine. And your middle aged mother in law who just stumbled into your sofa after going out to the family sedan to get her will apologize profusely and thank you for not shooting her in front of her grandkids. (Your wife will be pissed whether you shot her or not, so don't worry about that, it won't matter either way.)
Or your neighbor's drunken son will apologize for forcing the window open to what he really thought was his house and he left his keys at his ex's place. And if you then shoot him you will at least have a clear, identified target to shoot. Because he probably was here for booze money anyway. (I'd be a good neighbor and let him crash on the sofa since I don't want his dad to shoot him when he gets home anyway, and you can't really bill a corpse for window and upholstery repair, nor can a corpse clean his vomit off of your driveway/porch. Remember, life is cheap, but legal fees are expensive and his Dad needs money for his own alcohol habit too and will sue you, though he may buy you a beer later for unburdening him of the basement dwelling parasite he was trying to get rid of for years now. With what was formerly your own money.
Somebody had a strange 9 barrel rifle on the internet. That's when my so called brain realized that I'm actually shooting you 9 times each time using 00 buck. More efficient and cheaper....and fun.
I'd be curious to see how much hollow point or ballistic tipped expanding rifle bullets would reduce or stop overpenetration. As with many rounds including shotguns it can depend a lot on the specific ammunition used
This Channel is totally underrated. I'm binge watching all the videos and enjoy every one of them. No pretense, no bullshit, no tactical Tactitard Tactishit or Super Duper Mega Ultra Extreme Weapons. Greetings from Germany !
Thanks for making this video, for some reason whenever the discussion crops up people seem to feel the need to invent a scenario where the shotgun user is using a pump action with the wrong load and having to expend 30+ rounds, which are ridiculous criteria
Great video, hope all my neighbors with AR's have watched this video and decided to load their shotguns with #3 or 4 Buckshot. Years ago, when I went through the police academy, the instructor made the statement, "Remember that every round you discharge on duty is a potential lawsuit!" Enough said!
@Kathleen Mcmanus "Joined the Army": Kudos to you (Usaf msgt ret.); most of us are civilians ,not in a war zone. Not in "WROL". So every round loosed IS a potential law suit. Whether it actually hits a bystander or just break his windows("endangerment").
I'm always amazed at how many people DIDNT shoot things as a kid with a .22lr. Anyone who has shot through a car door can do some math on a house and figure what's what
.22 rifle my favorite thing to train with as a kid and even today. Kids today are missing very important fundamentals by not being taught marksmanship and collateral damage
I only shot paper targets at boy scout camp and nothing else since I didn't own any firearms. As a adult I have used a 12 guage on whitetail deer and I know the destruction they can cause.
I've shot just about everything with most common calibers and the results were usually the same, there was penetration. However, I prefer to not shoot at unconventional targets with a 22lr, last time I did, it was a derby car, and I had a round that deflected, came back and hit me in the neck, no serious damage, but it hurt and broke the skin. We we're 60 yards away too, nothing came back from the 5.56, 7.62x39, 8mm, 308, 12 gauge slugs, not even buckshot only 10 yards away 🤷
Jerry Miculek did some testing firing variuos handgun loads from .22lr, .357. and 10mm (among others) through a car door. Even with 10mm, to penetrate a relatively modern car door, it depends where the round hits.
@@toddk1377. If it’s slow enough not to penetrate and hits a dent or dish shaped curve it can come right straight back to where it came from. I did that with an shot up old boiler expansion tank. A 38 / 158 grain lightly loaded from a J frame Smith came straight back. I could see it coming and it almost put a hole in my capehart jacket where it hit me in the shoulder. I’d guess it was at about the speed of a BB gun. I was about 50’ so judging by the speed and the punch in the shoulder I got it could still have ruined someone’s day back at 100 if it got them in the eye, face or neck. That’s reason enough right there to wear eye protection.
As far as "shooting ten rounds faster with a rifle" isn't the point of shooting multiple rounds, getting multiple projectiles into your target? If that's case, even with OO Buck, in the first round fired, you are looking at nine projectiles headed down range at your target. After seven rounds, that's sixty-three. So if you are looking at the end result, wouldn't the shotgun, actually outpace the rifle as far as putting projectiles into a threat?
With #4 Buck, it's pretty similar to instantaneously emptying a mag of 5.56N from 600m away in a crazy tight group with each pull of the trigger (using Mk262Mod1 ammunition, as per the chart)... www.ingunowners.com/forums/long-guns/251101-ar-6-5-grendel-vs-5-56-vs-300-aac-blackout-4.html
Shotguns put out so much more firepower in a single pull than an ar variant could ever hope to do even automatic. a 10 Rd mag with 2 3/4inch #4 buck will put 270 6 mm holes in the same time an ar variant could put 10 5.56 mm holes.
The idea that a single shotgun round contains more firepower than a mag from an AR is a bit foolish. You saw in this test where the shotguns were barely going through the structure but the AR went through it, through another 2x4 and kept trucking. This is strictly google info but it seems somewhere in the right ball park. The average 00 buck round fires about 480 grains of lead at around 1200 ft/s at the muzzle. That amounts to an impressive energy of just over 1500 ft-lbs. By comparison, an AR puts out about 1300 ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle, most ammo is around 60 grains and sends it out at around 3000 ft/s. So a 5.56 round is fairly close to the raw power of a 00buck shell. The advantage of the shotgun is that at close range, it's going to dump all or most of that energy into your target where the 5.56 or 7.62 is likely to go right though your target and take a big chunk of it's energy with it, possibly into a space with bystanders. In fact, like this video shows, 00 Buck may well be overkill when #3 shot is plenty to do the job.
Clearly that shows that if you are going to have to defend your home from another home that has animated and is attacking, you want to use an AR platform or 00 Buck. :)
Paul you was savage in the video with out talking down to any body . When you was at your friends house and they said .well at my house I just need to know how my shotgun works . I fell over . That was the most true statement ever posted on the inter webs . Love your videos and style keep up the awesome work. Be safe and have fun my friend.
Paul, really love that you showed clearing the weapons in the house. And that you actually looked into the chamber. Probably the only "weapon channel" i've seen on youtube that actually follows gun safety. Keep up the good work man
I agree completely. My biggest pet peeve on RU-vid are folks that constantly point the business end of their handguns at their own body parts (usually by holding the muzzle with their fingers). Or the ones that do the "desk top reviews" with live ammunition spread-out on the desk. The real pros, like Paul, demonstrate gun safety FIRST.
Part of what impressed me is that they didn’t make a big deal of it because this is their normal routine, the habit of gun safety. Their mamas raised them right.
Mr Harrell, your "droning on" on covering every point in the responses you have from people you disagree with is what we come here for. Your experience and counsel is why we watch your videos. The longer you talk, the more knowledge we gain in dealing with firearms responsibly and professionally.
My father had a gun shop. As a youth, I was forced on 2 occasions to defend my Dad, and our home. Both with single shot, 12 bore shotguns, loaded with #4 buckshot. I'm still here. They were both unsuccessful. Both times my shotguns had ejectors, not lifters, so I could reload with remarkable speed, but never needed more than 3 rounds. Have a nice day.
Now having watched the video, I really agree with you. As a boy growing up on the farm, when I was finally handed the 12 gauge to go after rodents, I've been a fan of it since. It's what I have in my home. I feel it's like having a cannon in the house. Great videos, I am a subscriber. Thank you so much Paul.
MegaAppleshit Same here. I've been watching gun related videos religiously every day for 4+ years and just now stumbled across this channel. Don't know how I missed it but I think it's the best channel by far. No pretense, no attitude, and great content that is presented in a professional but relaxed manner. Thumbs way up!
Absolutely agree MegaAppleshit. This guy is the anti-yeager. No frothing testosterone borderline personality here. Clear, reasonable, upbeat even. Good advice without the tacticool. I don't know how I've watched gun videos on youtube for years and just stumbled on Paul's channel yesterday. Advice to get more subs would largely be irrelevant, I don't see Paul endorsing random bugout products, acting like a nutter, or getting in any conflicts with anyone that didn't seriously try to start it. The only thing I think you could do is improve production quality, but without ad revenue from subs, that can be expensive. It would be worth getting a gopro so you can have HD videos, but overall dont lose the down to earth, friendly nature of this channel, and don't sell out. Other than that, everyone that is subbed to this channel should share his videos. Also, you could hook up with InRangeTV and NuttinFancy at some point on a southwest road trip.
Likewise, I subscribe to his channel because he's an average rationale gun owner who's not a foaming-at-the-mouth gun nut/mercenary threatening to gun-down liberals and federal law enforcement at the Bundy Ranch. I use a 18/'5" barrel Maverick 88 12 gauge shotgun as my primary home-defense firearm. However I train a lot with in my house (using dummy shells and practicing clearing and PID'ing targets in the dark with a mounted flashlight) and on the range so that for me I'm intimately familiar with it and I know how my favorite #4 and 00 buckshot loads pattern at various distances. I also practice rapid engagement snap shot drills and hip-shooting drills to simulate real life scenarios where you often don't have time to think. If a shotgun owner does some regular training like this once every month or so, they'll generally be on top of any home defense situation. It's amazing how much you can train in your house just using snap caps (dummy shells) alone.
First off, I just discovered your channel, and it is extremely refreshing to have a personality like you making videos. I'm so sick of the tacti-cool bad-ass posers who think their poo is cherry pie. So thank you for being an honest, open, and reasonable personality in the gun community. Anyways, I've always been curious as to what happens to the pellets AFTER they go through a target. For example, do they still penetrate a wall after passing through the torso of a man? I can find no such research, and do not have the luxury of shooting anything I want at my local range. Maybe this is just irrelevant, but I don't know. Any clarity would be much appreciated. Thanks again for the awesome videos!
Looking at the ballistic gel tests from other videos, 00 buckshot looks like it will go through a typical human, and could possibly injure another human on the other side. However, I can't see it as having enough remaining velocity to penetrate even ONE interior wall. And the lighter #4 he shoots (as well as the 20 gauge #3) I can't see ever making it all the way through a human. Flesh (let alone any bone) is a massive drag on the pellets. Far more than something like sheetrock.
@@trims2u Yes , 4B when all pellets make solid torso hits , is very unlikely to exit . The flipside , which has happened more than once in real life , if the felon is wearing a Carhart or leather jacket, or surplus field jacket over top of leather vest or levi jacket , over top of 2 or 3 flannel jackets, over top of long johns , And is 25yds or more away , 4B can have very little energy left finally reaching their body ? Is this a concern ? Not so much , if you live in a more moderate climate, Or if your defensive needs absolutely , positively are confined to within a room .
@@filianablanxart8305 Not really. That combination isn't even up to 2A body armor standards. Buckshot at that range isn't likely to penetrate well, and Turkey shot even less so. But, and it's an important but, the impact is still going to be enough to put the perp on their back. Moreover, it's pretty likely that at least some of the pellets penetrated, particular in Not-So-Well-Protected areas. Then again, at those ranges, lots of handguns aren't that reliable either for "definite" kills. It's not really that good of an idea to be counting on a immediate kill from virtually any non-rifle out past 25 yards or so. And that's even for unprotected targets. But in all those cases, the ability to incapacitate or kill a target with several shots in a couple of seconds is a VERY high likelihood. Fixation on "100% first shot kill" is foolish, because you're not likely to HIT a target at even modest range with anything BUT a shotgun. High volume of fire (semi-auto pistols/rifles) compensate for this lack of accuracy by putting many shots out in 2-3 seconds. Shotguns compensate for a very-high percentage of at least SOME hits per shot. And when I say "accuracy", I'm talking about actual, in-situation accuracy, which is notoriously bad for everyone. Truth is, in a high-stress self-defense situation, you're going to be lucky to hit a target with your 2nd or 3rd shot from a rifle/pistol if the range is 25 yards or more. Moreover, it's going to be VERY suspicious in the eyes of the law if you're shooting someone at 25+ yards that hasn't shot at you first. They're going to say "but you didn't have a reasonable fear for your life", even if said person is tresspassing and carrying a gun.
If this isn't the absolute best go-to channel for concise and accurate shooting information,I'd like to know where else to look! Thank you,Paul,for the most entertaining and accurate firearms channel ever!
