For someone who says Karate doesnt work because its point sparring, Point Sparring can be useful in street fights. Because Point Sparring not only teaches you how to be quick, but also how to maintain your distance and when to attack, you can also control the force of your attack whether its hard contact or light.
I disagree….yes you are right about being fast you have to be fast in a street fight either to run away or to react to attacks but again point sparring isn’t useful in a street fight because in a street fight you want the fight to be over as quickly as possible so you have to bring in a strong hits and semi-contact hits aren’t gonna do anything…..ultimately there are no points in a street fight.
@@bhaskarjoshi3067 it is not the art itself that its not useless but the artist. It depends on the artists. For example, if the artist knows how to control his contact whether hard or light, when he does hard sparring and light sparring or point sparring, I think it would work in a street fight. But the best option is to run away, only fight when you have no choice. But since the topic here is point sparring, it just leaves the guy of how he will make it work, it would be better if they had a hard sparring session. But also, Karate is not just an art of sport, but also for self defense
@@youngchristianboy yes I agree….all martial arts are useful and useless at the same time in a street fight….if a person can implement karate into a street fight thats great and if a person can’t implement karate into a street fight then its useless….take Boxing for example in a street fight if you go ahead and start punching like a boxer and hit the other guy in the forehead you’ll break your hands without gloves but if you can make some changes to make it more useful like instead of punching at the face you punch the person in his solar plexus or his throat and instead of making a fist and throwing jabs you can open your hands and start scratching his eyes out….or just push the guy away….the street isn’t a ring.
@@youngchristianboy oh no. It's very much about the art too not just the artist. Your karate might be effective against an untrained person but against someone who has trained and sparred well it's next to useless. All that leaping in and out is literally begging for a counter for an experienced person. Sorry to break your bubble but shotokan has it's limits. Not saying it doesn't have some good techniques but it won't do well against a well trained seasoned fighter
@@huskaroar6869 Karate is just about a sport, but it has some self defence techniques. The techniques in sparring are different from the techniques in street fight. There are some moves that are deadly, and if you apply it on your sparring, you'll get kicked out. But when talking about combat, it depends on the artist if they teach them some effective techniques. We can look at Rafael Aghayev, he is a Kumite Champion in Sport Karate which is light contact. But he also join in Karate Combat which is full contact. The stances are similar but the style is no different. It depends on the artist if they have good control or not. If they sparr in full contact most of time or not. At the end of the day, you can either fight or not
Yeah but it looks so unrealistic... ad the one that hits first gets the point, people hesitate to move towards each other, this looks like fencing hahaha. In full contact, people usually will walk up to each other's kicking range and start throwing stuff, which is kind of what would happen in a real fight.
@@dakentaijutsu2010 cool, and also weird because the only Kempo Karate dojo that i have went into, didn't have point sparring haha. Anyways, point fighting can give you an advantage over untrained people, but when you fight a Muay Thai person (or any other style with full contact) you will not know what to do against them
As a Shotokan and Kickboxing praticioner i can say that Kickboxing and Full contact is just the evolution of Kumite sparring. When Karate, as a combat sport, was made, it was in a time that Japan just losted the World War 2, the Japanese was terrified by nuclear bombs and all the horror from the war and everthing related to war wasn't well seen by the japanese people. So the karate masters had the challenge to make Karate popular in Japan but show that Karate is not violent, but a beatifull art that can teach nice values to the japanese citizens. So they create a rule, based in Judo, that can be competitive and safe at the same time, focused on clean techniques, for regular people (not really fighters or athletes) of any age and body type could pratice, so they reach the sucess and Karate was soon being trained in the Japanese universities. So, Karate as a sport was fast spread to the world, and soon, the Karate wave hit the west. But the westerns wanted something even more competitive, so they adapted Karate to boxing rule system and created what was first knowed as "Full Contact Karate" and with the time become a different sport called Kickboxing. So Full contact Kickboxing is basically a hardcore western version of Karate. Nowdays it is what Karate Combat actually represents.
@@TiagoPortas Nice explanation. It's quite interesting how this "non-violent-art-with-nice-values" narrative was copied by basically every martial art in the West when they tried to promote themselves, specially in educational milieus. As for kickboxing, when I practiced it nobody told me it was inspired in karate. Maybe the sport evolved into a very different direction, because the techniques look so different now. Not to mention that karate looks more complete in terms of techniques used.
I like when ppl say karate doesn't work lol shotokan is a very rigid style but when u get to brown n black.. even purple belt u start flowing..its a really good overall style imo
just dont care what people say, u train hard, prepare ur mind and body well. When get into the fight execute them fast. That's it. it's not about the style, but disciple themselves.
In Muay Thai, boxing, Kyokoshin and kickboxing you're allowed to hit the opponent more than once. That doesn't seem to be the case with Shotokan Karate.
Not in tournaments this are mostly people who wanted to compete but didn't want to get hurt if so they would be doing full contact I'm personally training for mma so I do more full contact
been seein to many comments. let’s be honest. shotokan would dominate ANY “street” fighter. last thing a street fighter is gonna expect is eating a leg kick or eating your foot to the mouth.
I agree karate in street fight can be very usefull. My friend from same karate school beat around 10 people on street i beat around 25-30 i got arested because it was day time and i was fighting them next to police station and i brake guy cheak bone with one hit . Also around 15 years ago guy for new year was atacked by few guys for new yer in club he reject to fight and he leave club to go home he was karatist so that guys thought he is chiken so they leave club folowing him and atacking him again on the street he hit one of them with fist once and kill him on spot and he got jail time for killing person even if it was selfdefence . But again there is many not just karatists many martial artists who do katas earn black belt but in real fight they are afraid or confused and mostly end bad for them that is just from person to person. For example when i was training judo in 1 schoool and real aikido in another teachers or sensei of that scool was surprised how fast i get it all and i constantly have question did i ever trained something my respond was no . To explain why if i say that i am ower 30 years karatist there will be people who will challenge me that could be bad for them and i can be kicked out of the school. So it is better to pretend that is your first time and you are just good in it my advice for mixed martial artists to avoid unesesery class hate . Have good relationship in martial art school and give your best to learn.
1:12 No disrespect to the guy who got kicked in the face, but the way he blocks is the same thing my sensei teaches how NOT to block, because its to weak to actually block stuff
I'll prolly start Shotokan Karate in a bit, I can't say I'm not excited. My first martial art. I chose it over Muay Thai out of pure curiosity of how it actually is, because I always underestimated it, mainly for it's "spiritual" nature. Thought it wouldn't be that good. Though I think this video changed my mind. That and what my sister, who took classes, told me lol.
Have you tried out shotokan yet? Im trying mma because in the dojo near me, I noticed it seemed to have more younger kids and elderly people (in that dojo at least) mma class had people who were in better shape and closer to my age. I do recognize a guy from the dojo who comes in occasionally to train though.
@@altitudeadjustment259 I had my second class already. It's fun, I like it. There's a bunch of kids, though, just like you said too, but some of them are pretty skilled. I honestly wasn't sure the first day, but, while I destroyed my body in the process, the second day was fun and for some reason I felt more optimistic than before. But since I normally don't train or do anything at all, I came out of there exhausted. Now my legs and arms hurt like hell lol.
A similar critique exists for almost any other style including wrestling. Karate has a decent spotlight in the UFC, not as much as the bread and butter styles of course, but it seems to have its perks.
@@leonimatics1955 I agree with that and it doesn't contradict what I said. If you had to pick one, wrestling would usually dominate, but it doesn't mean the other styles should be completely dismissed
@Senpai chris🥶 nah not even half of him i am only 4/10th of him ... I don't know about height though I'm 5'10 and if you are judging me on the basis of my profile photo ... Sorry my friend it's very old one ♥️♥️♥️♥️ Anyways thank you for your reply
A lot of the time, the belts in competition do not denote rank, they are so the judges can differentiate between fighters. In some organisations, opponents wear red or blue belts, in others one wears white, one red, in others again people do wear their rank belts but one has a red ribbon tied round the back.
Not even close to Taekwondo. Low kicks. Low stances. Catching the leg. No spin kicks. No sparring gear. This may not be Shotokan (idk, I do Taekwondo) but this is definitely karate.
Nonsense. It‘s the way you train, Kyokushin has almost identical techniques to shotokan. They just spar harder. But all styles work if you train correctly
Contests are limited in many ways as Karate practicioner 34 years i dislike this contest highlights . Shotokan style have more better hits and kicks also trows like in judo this contest is based on few basic hits which i disgree to be highlights.
I think karate is good but Only for the lighter weights . The heavy guys Arnt as quick and bouncing around like that will eat the cardio pretty fast no matter your fitness level . I Allso don’t like how after one hit the rounds over ... could U imagine boxing like this ? One punch and OHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Round over . Liek seriously how u gonna be ready for a fight ?
Heavy weights are pretty fine too. They bounce around well as well. Stamina and flexibility are key. Heavy weights can have a lot of flexibility too. I used to be a dan 1 black belt and participated in medium / heavy section of the tournaments. The round is over when u get a point. Any where in the chest is a full point. I guess remembering punching on the head would disqualify us.
The referees are not stopping because the match is over.. They are Stoping them to give points there are a total 5 rounds with 1 minute each the match can get over if any player gets ippon!!
Well they stop the fight like that only in competition I think sparring in your dojo is far more intense like we can go for intense sparing for like 40min non stop we just change opponent and I can tell you its not fun when you're against someone two times your size 😅
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