Should China be BANNED from the Olympics? 

Totally agree with you. The one's that cheat know. I was on the National team & even meds from the doc, I got them to check. There is never a reason for not knowing

The same argument could be made for Russian swimmers, the clean ones can't race under their flag. They also don't necessarily have anything to do with the war in Ukraine yet they cop the punishment so I feel like you can't take one stance with one and not others.

​@@user-rp7xp6xe8pUhh yes there is. You think a swimmer at a Chinese training camp or whatever actually has full control of what goes in their bodies? You think a government that is putting people by the thousands into "camps" wouldn't dope their athletes without their consent? Then you're awfully naive. These commies do not care, and they will do whatever they want to anybody, including their top athletes.

And the yt censorship police deleted my comment like usual. Its almost like living in China trying to post anything on this trash platform

They all doping, most likely

I think they should do the whole team because the same situation happened with Russia and the whole team (Russia) was banned. The clean ones should just represent themselves separate from China and have routine drug tests

@@awsomerobyn2603 balco scandal all over again…

Yeah since 2000 China keep in top 3 Olympic medal Tally 😮

How about the U.S and Aussie TUEs swimmer？

@@user-bu6dz3qz7r like a said a positive test is a positive test. I haven’t even heard about the U.S. or Aussie swimmers… who tested positive?

@@collinmiller8866 You must know the TUEs ？ According to your logic, shouldn't those on the TUEs list also be baned ? You must read the files on WADA and FINA. American swimmer had similar situation before, WADA did the same.

They don'r believe that the ChinADA report was mailed to ARD ? ChinADA entered the AAFs into ADAMS for effss sake

Of course, they are now doing whatever it takes to turn the table and blame on everything else but their own illegal actions. I'm even not surprised as this is what the modern China is well known for. Right?

That reaction by Chinese media alone is basically an admission of guilt.

@@dalenesbitt The west including Australia fears China is going to win more medals than they will, and as a result they have exposed this food contamination that happened in 2021, conveniently right before the Paris Olympics. 2014 - 10 US athletes test positive under the same food contamination circumstances, never leaked or banned. Western antic yet again.

Definitely sus that China is denying the 23 testing positive rather than the other claims... you'd think they wouldn't argue with the facts and focus on the speculation if they were innocent...🤷‍♂️

I think they should do the whole team because the same situation happened with Russia and the whole team (Russia) was banned. The clean ones should just represent themselves separate from China and have routine drug tests

Real

And Russia

Just think about this for a bit. Would you think elite swimmers like Zhang Yufei, Qin Haiyang, Wang Shun etc., would willingly take drugs and jeopardize their fame and career? I highly doubt it. They worked so hard all their life like other elite swimmers. I suspect there was either an insider (perhaps an official, or coaches) or outsiders (enemies of China) intentionally sabotage the swimmers by putting TMZ substances in their foods. A source told me that there were other hotels of swimmers; but only that particular hotel had TMZ. To me this is very fishy. Also, banning them in Paris for the substances they ingested by mistake 3.5 years ago sound a bit ridiculous. Assuming if they are tested negative multiple times, I think they should compete in Paris. I just feel unfair that 90% + ppl want all Chinese to be banned in the Olympic because of this unfortunate situation. I mean look at history, China is ranked 8th in medal stripping and USA ranks 5th, Russia ranks 1st. In the last 40 years of Olympic, more USA olympic athletes got banned than China. No one really mentions that at all. To me it's extremely biased. Lastly it's not us who make the banning decisions. Based on the currently news, 3 major sport governing bodies, WADA, World Aquatic, and IOC are all on China's side. USADA can accuse all they want.

Well like it’s not every sport only swimming that one Olympics.

gonna assume yards if it’s a college pool

China paid WADA off with $2 million. Yes they are on drugs, hence the world records

It was leaked WADA didn’t want this to come out.

I've been a fan of Asian Swimming particularly the Chinese team. I wouldn't even watch swimming if China is not even in it. I think banning the entire team is too extreme. So far, Pan Zhanle has been negative in all his tests before any world event. Banning him is insane since he's the favorite for 100 meter freestyle.

@@thitran3080 and besides all these points. Do we really trust all those Anti-Doping organisations?? Because many Russian swimmers who were positive back then, were training in the US. I am a swimmer myself and the bodies and things I see in every olimpics are beyond natural. Not saying everyone is doping lol but there is such a small line between being tested positive or not. And let's be real here... The ones who control the institutions are Western. Is it not too much coincidence that always the ones to blame are historically enemy countries?

Sanada hello Yasemincik :DD

As funny as that sounds...this actually opens up another interesting topic in sport generally...when is it allowable enhancement and when is it not?

@@G0ATdebatethen where would it ever stop 🛑? when we are all AI. Clones super human doped up machines? No the 23 athletes from China 🇨🇳 should be stripped of medals and stricter laws rules for doping

ban the positive swimmers, not the entire nation.

because of politics and "war" forbidden to Russian swimmers......

@@the_man502 i think the issue here is the sheer number of positive tests which supports a theory of STATE sanctioned doping rather than a rouge athlete or two. Yes if it was just a couple of athletes who tested positive then it would not make sense to ban an entire nation, however here the context is a little different hence the more blanket response required.

23 Chinese athletes did have performance enhancing drugs in their system, so they failed the drug test, the entire country didn’t fail. Is it common in China to have performance enhancing drugs in kitchens while cooking meals? I doubt it, that why everyone thinks their story is BS.

Be quiet Commie.

They "found" contamination 10 weeks later. That does not prove their case. Thats like taking a blood sample 10 weeks later for a car crash testing for drugs and alcohol. The time frame matters. ChinADA entered the 28 positve tests for the 23 swimmers in the ADAMS database, it happened. WADA & ChinADA didn't follow the normal procedure of athlete notification, provisional suspensions & hearings.

​@@414s4China always in TOP 3 medal Tally Olympic 😂 since 2000 😂

@@boiscooka232 I would say that since China has a much greater population than any other country in the world, they should easily dominate the medal count. In terms of population size, China has 4 times the number of people than the USA. A top 3 finish is actually pretty poor for that size country. Maybe the athletes in the USA just outwork Chinese athletes, or could it be something else?

The scheme is wada. Sure I would ban them. But banning them isn't protecting the sport. Protecting the sport would require "banning" the organizations that allowed this nonsense to begin with. People are always going to cheat. And communist dumpster fire counties are always going to do what they do. When your alphabet organizations do nothing about it, the actual cheaters and dumpster fire countries aren't actually the problem....

You're missing most of the plot here. Indeed, it was no coincidence. This was China's entire Olympic swim team turning up positive all at once with trace amounts of the identical drug all after attending one gathering. That's not a clean sport violation. If anything, it's a national security emergency. So it figures that the Chinese anti-doping agency immediately informed WADA and shared their results, and WADA sensed there were unprecedented elements that were above their clearance and decided not to go public for fear of exposing an international incident verging on biological warfare. Would any of this make sense in the context of a colossal Chinese screw-up exposing their state doping regimen?

Why would a country taking part in a well organized scheme of doping report itself and during COVID when it would have been very easy to hide the results? Critical thinking skills