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Should Christians Pledge Fraternities & Sororities? 

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Bishop Patrick L. Wooden, Sr. sits down with Superintendent James Tharrington of "Successful Life Word Ministries Church of God in Christ" to have a conversation about Christians pledging fraternities and sororities.
Upper Room Church of God in Christ - Raleigh, NC
Bishop Patrick L. Wooden, Sr.
UpperRoomGospel.org

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@aprillrashelle
@aprillrashelle Год назад
God please protect Bishop Wooden because he is a jewel. Truth tellers are rare.
@Morales705
@Morales705 Год назад
This is why I respect Bishop Wooden… he stands on the word of God even when some of his Colleagues are in these fraternities. Praying his strength in the Lord.
@singletee
@singletee Год назад
Amen! Bishop Wooden truly understand the assignment that only what you do for Christ Jesus will last❤
@johnmontgomery4923
@johnmontgomery4923 Год назад
anti-semetic
@jr9941
@jr9941 Год назад
I really appreciated this conversation and TRUTH coming from men of God & leadership of the church. There needs to be more pastors/ministers speaking out on this topic so individuals can understand that these BGLOs are not of God! ❤
@theclariontube
@theclariontube Год назад
We literally witnessed a young lady have a mental breakdown in the middle of a back to school college spirit night service that was held by a COGIC Superintendent who is a member of Alpha Phi Alpha and his wife is a member of Delta Sigma Theta. The lights were down low, the youth and young adults had glow in the dark necklaces and bracelets on and the Superintendent called out each fraternity and sorority. As he begin to call them out, they started yelling out their Greek call, for example the Deltas yelled “ooo oop” and the AKAs yelled “skee wee,” and so forth. Then the guest musical artist told everyone to in the sanctuary to go wild. All of a sudden this young lady started screaming and losing her mind. The Superintendent and his wife, along with several other ministry leaders tried to cast the devil out but could not. Eventually they had to call the police because she manifested violent behaviors and became a threat to herself and others. A few days later, my husband and I privately met with our, then pastor and superintendent, to express our concerns. We stated many of the facts mentioned in this video and we were convinced they welcomed the devil in when they allowed members of fraternities and sororities to call out to each other. It’s impossible to cast out a devil that you invite in. The superintendent was not happy with the conversation. We tried our very best to be respectful, which is why we called a private meeting with him. Shortly after, we peacefully left that church, eventually leaving the Church of God in Christ. Both my husband and I were licensed by the Church of God in Christ and were never, until now affiliated with any other denomination. He is a minister and I am an evangelist. We grew up, got saved, baptized and filled with the Holy Ghost in COGIC. He grew up under the ministry of the late Bishop Samuel L. Smith and I grew up under Elder Elvis Fuller. Our pastors were both true holy men of God like Bishop Wooden. You cannot imagine how difficult it has been to leave the only church we’ve known but God has given us strength, peace and grace. We are in a very good multicultural Pentecostal church now, with sound leadership. However we still love the Church of God in Christ and pray God will raise up more leaders like Bishop Wooden, whose only agenda is to please our Lord Jesus Christ. We live near Memphis (the headquarters) and I can tell you most of the COGIC leadership here is asleep at the wheel or backslidden. Maybe one day God will send us back but right now we just pray for our COGIC brothers and sisters. These are very dark spiritual times and we all have to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. Again, God bless you Bishop Wooden and please stay on the wall. We are listening and praying for you!
@singletee
@singletee Год назад
Wow… my goodness! I’m so blown away with some of the leaders of today! To even allow such act in the house of God is crazy and we can truly see the falling away happening in the body of believers… smh just to belong with the world when Jesus Christ is more than enough! I am happy and I thank God that he has blessed you and your husband to find a new church home. Stay in faith and keep standing on the Word of God ! 🙏🏽
@samuelmatthews9092
@samuelmatthews9092 Год назад
Praise the Lord! I just read your testimony and all I can say is Wow! Jesus is so loving and merciful. I want to ask, have you been baptized in Jesus' Name for the remission of sins?
@ToOpen6seven
@ToOpen6seven Год назад
@@singletee True, but at the same time we need to expose so many of these pastors who are Masons, those types of organization are even worse!!
@singletee
@singletee Год назад
@@ToOpen6seven .. those are facts as well
@sharnetteraye-brown9523
@sharnetteraye-brown9523 Год назад
Wow..what a powerful testimony! In 2018, I repented, denounced, and renounced my nearly 10 years of membership in Delta Sigma Theta Sorority. My husband did the same in 2020 after 30 years of membership in Omega Psi Phi Fraternity. God told us and showed us why our membership in these secret societies was against His will. I continue to pray for others who are still members, including those in church leadership because many who are in the organizations believe it's okay, based on their leaders being members.
@theclariontube
@theclariontube Год назад
Lord in the name of Jesus, if it be your will, please promote Bishop Patrick Wooden Sr. to the highest office of the Church of God in Christ. This is the kind of biblically sound, Christ centered leadership COGIC needs.
@indiamckenz5228
@indiamckenz5228 Год назад
Thank God for bishop sheard lord keep your hands on him 🙏 amen
@yemoteleyq.9068
@yemoteleyq.9068 Год назад
Amen! I couldn’t agree more. Thank God for Bishop Wooden 🙌🏾
@lenamcneil5603
@lenamcneil5603 Год назад
AMEN IN JESUS NAME.AMEN GLORY TO GOD.AMEN HALLELUJAH 11/12/2022😇JESUS IS LORD.AMEN 👋🏻
@lloydbridges8986
@lloydbridges8986 Год назад
I couldn't agree more. I thought Bishop Patternson was the last to Preach like this. There is definitely a great falling away!
@karendavis5988
@karendavis5988 Год назад
In Jesus name amen
@Amorantasia1
@Amorantasia1 Год назад
Whew this is going to step on some toes Bishop! Love the boldness 😩😂
@carolineyelding7989
@carolineyelding7989 Год назад
No, it won't. Sororities and fraternities are service organizations. Do so much for their communities. They don't have pastor anniversaries that fleece the flock. They serve for sure.
@ImTooDC
@ImTooDC Год назад
I have a friend who was an Easter Star and AKA. She said she left the Eastern Stars because they used to do weird chants. She left AKA too.
@nikkib7442
@nikkib7442 4 месяца назад
Both Eastern Star and AKA are demonic . Freemasonry
@Freein2024
@Freein2024 Месяц назад
Praise God!🙌🏿
@cgunnerm
@cgunnerm Год назад
Thank you for talking about this. I'm thankful God opened my eyes and led me to denounce. We need more pastors to speak out, but first, many need to denounce.
@kelvinlee5509
@kelvinlee5509 Год назад
Don't forget they all have gods, and they have names!
@darleneanderson109
@darleneanderson109 Год назад
During black history month many of our black church's have a special recognition during worship for the Devine 9. Also, members that are masons are even given recognition. I've have personally witnessed several pastor's holler out their frat group and even give their hand signs. People do pledge for different reasons, however if you even suggest to them to give it up, lord what words come forth from their mouths shall not be written or repeated. We can't serve two master's. Great topic well presented .
@yohancejohnson3465
@yohancejohnson3465 10 месяцев назад
How could you serve two masters when nothing Supercedes God Almighty and a Brother or sisterhood is not the church
@yohancejohnson3465
@yohancejohnson3465 8 месяцев назад
@@infamousgrizzly1358 it's not nonsense it's Truth
@yohancejohnson3465
@yohancejohnson3465 8 месяцев назад
​@@infamousgrizzly1358Did you even listen to what Minister Smoot??? Everything he said what all Scriptures! There is no self proclamation going on.
@MsKB7
@MsKB7 7 месяцев назад
@@yohancejohnson3465 You can’t serve two masters! Your Greek God in your sorority and fraternity is who you serve (Greek Gods are Atlas Manerva Apollo etc….) . You left up your Greek organization instead of lifting up the name of Jesus Christ.
@yohancejohnson3465
@yohancejohnson3465 7 месяцев назад
@@MsKB7 I've been a Christian way before joining the Fraternity. Your point is mute. When you join the a fraternity or Sorority it is explained that God It almighty.nothing comes before GOD.
@sierraleone813
@sierraleone813 8 месяцев назад
God spoke to me personally through the spiritual realm.🙏🏽🛐✝️ Because I was asked to become a Eastern Star ⭐✨✨ So I prayed about it. Did not know anything about the organization, never heard about it at the time. God answered me 3 days later and told me No! in a authoritative voice. The Father God said everybody want to join things they know nothing about. Thus said the Lord in Jesus Christ's name. True story.🛐✝️🙏🏽🙌🏽 I thank God.
@msbe.9792
@msbe.9792 Год назад
Thank you for talking about this!! Such a TIMELY release!! We are called to COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM AND TO BE YE SEPARATE!!! I pray this convicts and provokes a MASS EXIT!!!
@glitteringfollies
@glitteringfollies Год назад
Secret societies (including freemasonry) within the body of Christ is a great hindrance to revival. See the book entitled "Should Christians Pledge fraternities and sororities? : The Truth at Last".
@Mr.J281
@Mr.J281 Год назад
I wish that this video would’ve had a second part talking about the bigger fraternities.
@Proverbspsalms
@Proverbspsalms Год назад
The one on the right is holding up the triangle the whole time
@KeithEasley-vc1mb
@KeithEasley-vc1mb Год назад
Fireman’s north is from the Bible and in the Bible please read and study before you respond
@alishacrawford8317
@alishacrawford8317 7 месяцев назад
​@@Proverbspsalms Wow I caught that too. Just watching him was weird given the topic, the abnormal use of his hands was noticeable. For those that don't know look up Freemason Hand signals or Masonic Hand Gestures under images and scroll down there's plenty images showing how he was holding his hands was exactly like freemasonic signaling. Interesting.
@singletee
@singletee Год назад
This is why I call you my Bishop even though I don’t know you personally. I love the way you stand on God Truth unapologetically because God word is right.. that’s it ..and that’s All! You men did a excellent job by the Grace of God with putting out the information for everyone to do their own research and yes you both did it respectfully. I pray that the people who didn’t know will now be delivered and set free, Brother’s thank you 🙏🏽 God bless!
@crthompson1793
@crthompson1793 Год назад
Thank you for exposing the truth!!!
@TBillingsBrand
@TBillingsBrand Год назад
TGBTG for this video! Last year the Lord spoke to me so clearly about serving 2 masters. I had to threw out everything that I owed attached to SGRho. Prior to the Lord speaking to me, as much as I tried to fit in with those ladies, it NEVER worked. They ostracized me because I would not let the haze me and I spoke out about it. It has been 8 years and after I crossed, I never received my ritual book so I didn’t even know what was in it. I have yet to write my letter of renounce but after watching this I am going to write it and send it certified. I need to know that they received it so I can be released officially from this cult.
@kimberlyh1128
@kimberlyh1128 Год назад
Good for you! I renounced and sent in my letter over a year ago and I have never looked back! I knew the Lord was speaking to me and I knew I had to obey quickly! You will be blessed for following the Lord’s plan for your life! Reach out if you have any questions!
@lloydbridges8986
@lloydbridges8986 Год назад
Praise God! The light and the dark can't coexist together
@AshleyMechell
@AshleyMechell Год назад
Amen!
@glambyportia3100
@glambyportia3100 Год назад
Amen!! And pray that those spirits be removed in Jesus name!
@essjayjaxyn6346
@essjayjaxyn6346 Год назад
Thank you for being relevant for the times!!! I will be sharing with everyone child entering college starting with my own in Jesus name!!
@talyahthekingsdaughter37
@talyahthekingsdaughter37 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate this so much. I appreciate both you gentlemen for bringing this discussion to the public table. I’ve always known in my spirit that this is antithetical to God and His word and to Christ, but I was unable to completely articulate the why. This is a tremendous help, and gift because now we have the *TRUTH* based on the character of God & His Word. God bless you both. 😌🙏✝️⚓️🕊️🤍
@KIMIKOSHOW
@KIMIKOSHOW Год назад
First pastor that actually moved me in years 🙏🏾
@KIMIKOSHOW
@KIMIKOSHOW 9 месяцев назад
@infamousgrizzly1358 damn shame, not another one🙄
@outfromamongthem
@outfromamongthem 7 месяцев назад
We praise God for pastors like Bishop Wooden Sr. and Supt. James Tharrington Jr., who teach the truth about BGLOs! We renounced and denounced BGLOs (as well as other orgs) ourselves; I personally renounced and denounced from DST seven years ago and it's one of the best decisions I've made in obedience to Jesus! On another note, we'll actually have Pastor James Tharrington Jr. speaking at an upcoming free conference we're having in Greensboro on June 29th, please attend if you're able! (info is on the events tab of our website, and the website url is in our channel bio). God bless you and your ministry for touching on this as well!
@judyhenderson6335
@judyhenderson6335 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this information.
@EmpoweredByGod-egIL
@EmpoweredByGod-egIL Год назад
And again, Bishop Wooden is on point... I joined Latin sorority many years ago. My reason was for discovery and connecting in that area of my ethnicity as I'm mixed. So I joined. Long story short, I was a part of it while I was in school, I stayed connected with a few and after leaving school I had no interest in participating in sorority events... I recall attending one, post school. I believe that was a God-Thing. Fast-forward, within the last few years on into this year, I began learning of the things that is being spoken of in this video... making vows "covenant agreements," etc... I had repented and renounced earlier on to consciously correct the error of my way, but again did so in January (this year), renouncing and denouncing all things connected as it was made clear that these organizations are not of God. Thank you Bishop Wooden!
@yohancejohnson3465
@yohancejohnson3465 10 месяцев назад
Who says that Fraternity and Sororities are the Church or God. Nothing Supercedes God Almighty. Naacp, urban league,Elks Lodge, Fraternal order of Police none are being worshipped. This is wrong on so many levels
@KHenderson934
@KHenderson934 10 месяцев назад
Truly a blessed conversation. Thank you so much.
@orlandoevans8591
@orlandoevans8591 Год назад
Great subject! Very well needed!
@videogirlzzzzzz
@videogirlzzzzzz 7 месяцев назад
So informative! Praise God!
@markprice4614
@markprice4614 Год назад
Very inspiring and truthful message my beautiful black brothers. May Jesus Christ continue to bless you both always and for ever.🙏❤🙏❤🙏❤
@deeds3337
@deeds3337 Год назад
Awesome as usual! What a perfect time to air during Holy convocation, much needed. May God continue to bless and cover you both in the blood of Jesus!🙏🏾
@redeanaraeroebuck1576
@redeanaraeroebuck1576 Год назад
Awesome teaching Pastor Tharrington.
@missy09317
@missy09317 Год назад
I truly enjoyed this!❤
@misswinnie4.8
@misswinnie4.8 Год назад
Excellent. Thank you.
@interestinglyenough9298
@interestinglyenough9298 Год назад
No different than a street gang in certain aspects
@shantephillips3207
@shantephillips3207 8 месяцев назад
I BLESS THE LORD, THIS IS POWERFUL, THANK YOU JESUS!!!!!
@TytusJones
@TytusJones Год назад
This was good! I don’t agree with churches that allow the parading of Greek life within the church. I think it’s disrespectful to God and also doesn’t take into consideration how those may be feel who were rejected and not given an opportunity to participate. I see it no different from ppl who use church as an opportunity to flaunt wealth.
@debofiveklub7804
@debofiveklub7804 11 месяцев назад
Really? Wow. We should remember that Jesus deserves ALL the glory!
@Steph-nc4bo
@Steph-nc4bo Год назад
Bishop Wooden can you PLEASE do a video like this, a conversation about this Hebrew Israelite movement, that’s growing traction?? I know you have mentioned it before, not being biblical, but I need to have something to refer back to because it’s gaining steam fast and it’s hard to find biblical truth on the matter, ESPECIALLY from a black preacher.
@ToOpen6seven
@ToOpen6seven Год назад
Amen and the Torah observant too -- a few of my family members are caught up in this heresy.
@chosenandanointed611
@chosenandanointed611 Год назад
My God. God had this video to come to my feed. He has answered my question regarding a ministry that I have been connected to.
@van3741
@van3741 Год назад
Awesome expose! Wow.
@leapyearchild7251
@leapyearchild7251 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the discussion. I have shared other videos from people explaining this to a Greek letter organization member. They always use the community and charity for the reasons for joining the most. They want an identity or have a need for networking and status. Some have self-esteem issues. I know of one who pledged a sorority because of this. The pride and arrogance that come with this is sad. I am glad I never pledged at my HBCU. It brings curses among you. Many have died and are psychologically traumatized for life. There are plenty of RU-vid videos of folks denouncing these organizations.
@annettawhite4001
@annettawhite4001 6 месяцев назад
Good word!
@professorx8549
@professorx8549 Год назад
Maslow's Hierarchy of needs is Real. " Choose You This Day who You will Serve ! " " Come From Among Them ! " The Need to belong coupled with Denial is a Powerful Phenomenon. "The hour is late and the clock of destiny is ticking out. We must act now before it is too late. For Procrastination is The Thief of Time". --- dr.m.l.k., jr.
@PlayYourSongz
@PlayYourSongz Год назад
Amen Bishop Wooden.
@burnicecross980
@burnicecross980 7 месяцев назад
Thank you Bishop
@melanieprice5535
@melanieprice5535 Год назад
So glad that you're doing this. When I was a little girl holiness pastors would warn about these groups. But....with the teaching of "the word of faith" all santification teaching went away; including all greek secret groups.
@emmanuealmarshallsr6819
@emmanuealmarshallsr6819 Год назад
Great discussion on a good topic.
@Howyougontalk
@Howyougontalk 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, and God bless you so much. I recently denounced a sorority after many, many years of being on the role. Jesus, I love you and I vow only to you.
@lloydbridges8986
@lloydbridges8986 Год назад
James 5:12 tells us to take no oath. This is a requirement to enter ANY Sorority / Fraternity. And what they fail to realize is when they take these oaths they enter covenant /agreement with many who are not "Christian" (term used lightly) but many don't believe at all. the Bible tells us not to be unequally yoked. awesome study and video. I had a similar situation with an old pastor of mine who so happen to be (COGIC) as well. But I questioned him about the APhiA paddle he had on his wall and the lic plate frame on his car. His response was that he has not been an active member in years and don't even pay his dues anymore. My question was if you are no longer active why still represent, cause you are giving others the lic to enter into something you say you no longer believe in. At that point just like the Bishop said "The blood is no longer on my hands". Because I was raised not to question authority and I truly believed he loved the Lord I stayed silent until God whipped me and gave me no rest until i opened my mouth. So Bishop I know you need no applause or hand claps, but I stand with you in your fight for the the righteous. As I often say we are living in a day where EVERYBODY has a right but the Righteous. God bless you sir, and keep your hands to the Plow!
@yohancejohnson3465
@yohancejohnson3465 10 месяцев назад
Who says that Fraternity and Sororities are the Church or God. Nothing Supercedes God Almighty. Naacp, urban league,Elks Lodge, Fraternal order of Police none are being worshipped. This is wrong on so many levels
@joanieb8194
@joanieb8194 Год назад
Pray for My College Boyfriend. He is steeped in the Greek lifestyle. This has been over 34 years now. He is also an active church member. Thanks ♡
@rosestephen6789
@rosestephen6789 Год назад
Come on Men of God!!!!
@marcelluscoleman2988
@marcelluscoleman2988 Год назад
What a word
@AshleyJohnson-xr1um
@AshleyJohnson-xr1um Год назад
Oh they're preaching, preaching.
@willgotti212
@willgotti212 11 месяцев назад
I know plenty of pastors and their spouses who are members of these greek organizations. Many of their church members are also hardcore members of these organizations as well, they lift their organizations more than their being a Christian. How do i get a copy of the book on greek organizations?
@mingo2024
@mingo2024 3 месяца назад
You cannot eat at the table of demons and of God. As soon as you take a covenant to a frat or soro, you are no longer Christian. You have made your allegiance.
@Perfectpearl
@Perfectpearl 6 месяцев назад
6:56 You can do all that volunteer without joining a fraternity or sorority.😂
@senorahemphill7414
@senorahemphill7414 Год назад
Let your guest speak Bishop! I tuned in to hear what his views are re: sororities!🧐🤨🤔
@glambyportia3100
@glambyportia3100 Год назад
He said them. The same thing he stated about fraternities goes for sororities as well
@TaushaTW
@TaushaTW 4 месяца назад
Satan appears as an Angel of light.
@need4HIM
@need4HIM Год назад
The Lord has ordained and called Bishop Wooden for such a time as this. He reminds me of a great secular and political leader of a past generation, Sir Winston Churchill. When he became Prime Minister of England during the beginning of the WWII, he stated "“I felt as if I were walking with destiny, and that all my past life had been but a preparation for this hour and for this trial... I thought I knew a good deal about it all, I was sure I should not fail" . In effect he stated "I was born for this"...and he was. I believe God held Bishop Wooden in reserve as a leader to help steer the church through the encroaching apostasy of the end times. God richly bless him and First lady Wooden. .
@georget.garnettll5946
@georget.garnettll5946 7 месяцев назад
There is No similarities between Bishop Wooden and Winston Churchill, who was a racist of the first order.
@ShirleyMSmith-qx3le
@ShirleyMSmith-qx3le 3 месяца назад
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FIRST LADY ONLY EVE WHO WAS CREATED BY GOD FOR ADAM AS HIS HELP MEET WHERE GET ALL THIS STUFF FROM GOD NEVER SPOKE OF NO FIRST LADY OF THE CHURCH OF GOD STOP FOLLOWING MAN TEACHING AND FOLLOW GOD COMMANDMENTS YOU'LL LIVE A BETTER LIFE AND THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS CHRISTIANITY, CHRISTIAN WAS FIRST SAID AT ANTIOCH ACTS 11:26 READ AND LEARN STUDY TO SHOW THYSELF APPROVED
@abrenahunter919
@abrenahunter919 8 месяцев назад
NO MAN CAN SERVE TWO MASTERS!" THOSE ARE JESUS' WORDS IN THE BOOK OF MATTHEW.
@CMarie_B
@CMarie_B Год назад
This is interesting and true. I only wish they would've gone deeper into what these greek entities these organizations represent mean spiritually-idols/demons. I've always wondered what business do Black people have with ancient greek culture? Glad for what was brought out if nothing else. I personally see a lot of Black men & women do it to "get ahead" when it actually makes you a respector of person, which is not Biblical. Also, rather sticky topic in the COGIC church because the current presiding Bishop's son in law flashes all his frat symbols and colors, and his famous daughter KiKi was in a movie about sorority life...hmm...it's not just these greek organizations but within the church circles, all these accolades and constant honor neing given to man- not to mention all the rings, robes and necklaces being worn. It's all a big mess.
@robertoliver9669
@robertoliver9669 2 месяца назад
Funny how people complain about Blacks worshipping "White Jesus" but the same NEVER criticize the White Greek gods of the Divine 9.
@raquelspann2663
@raquelspann2663 8 месяцев назад
The person you interviewing is showing the triangle hand sign, as all pledged members do to show allegiance. This is questionable to who he really serve.
@nevermind4757
@nevermind4757 7 месяцев назад
Exactly am I the only one seeing this, Thank you wow.
@alishacrawford8317
@alishacrawford8317 7 месяцев назад
Wow I caught that too. Just watching him was weird given the topic, the abnormal use of his hands was noticeable. For those that don't know look up Freemason Hand signals or Masonic Hand Gestures under images and scroll down there's plenty images showing how he was holding his hands was exactly like freemasonic signaling. Interesting.
@venasingleton1922
@venasingleton1922 5 месяцев назад
And I'm still waiting for pastors who know that this is wrong. But when they visit other churches they still won't preach about it. They may have denounced themselves from it. But when they attend other churches they won't preach about it
@sharnetteraye-brown9523
@sharnetteraye-brown9523 Год назад
Is there a link to purchase Brother Tharrington's book?
@josephmsefya8975
@josephmsefya8975 Год назад
I was looking also. You have to send a request to the PO Box he provides at the end of the clip
@edwinaclanton61
@edwinaclanton61 4 месяца назад
What does the chain (rope) represent you guys are wearing. I see it all the time and I don't know what it mean.
@jerihiggins1165
@jerihiggins1165 8 месяцев назад
Question, would you stay under a pastor that is dedicated to a fraternity
@Lala-ht8ps
@Lala-ht8ps 7 месяцев назад
Nope
@deirdrec8777
@deirdrec8777 7 месяцев назад
No.
@Aliciam139
@Aliciam139 3 месяца назад
I’m struggling with this rn!
@Proverbspsalms
@Proverbspsalms Год назад
The man on the right is holding up that triangle 🤔
@ShaeNik
@ShaeNik Год назад
I didn't see at first but now I do. Hmm... maybe just a learned hand gesture.
@Proverbspsalms
@Proverbspsalms Год назад
@@ShaeNik I am glad you caught that. idk if you watch judge Mathis- but he does it too. Jayz and beyonce do it, but throw it straight up. I didn’t initially watch all of this video. Now that I hear him talking- it seems like maybe he is just inadvertently holding his hands that way. I’m going to give him that credit. But definitely if you get a chance check out those people that I just mentioned.
@ShaeNik
@ShaeNik Год назад
@@Proverbspsalms I already know what you're saying and they're all demonic industry puppets throwing up masonic hand signs (don't get me started). After I listened to the full video I also think it was inadvertent but it had me for a minute lol. He seems like a genuine man of God but 🤷🏽‍♀️.
@NeeCeeStar
@NeeCeeStar Год назад
I noticed that too. Almost the entire time.
@Lala-ht8ps
@Lala-ht8ps 7 месяцев назад
I'm sure that's the way he is holding his hand.
@proudtobeaconservative5150
@proudtobeaconservative5150 Год назад
CHURCH OF GOD IN CHRIST HAS A GREEK CLUB ORGANIZATION. THEY ARE OPENLY SUPPORTING THERE CLUBS AND THE LEADERSHIP SUPPORTS THEM.
@theclariontube
@theclariontube Год назад
True!
@donzellbroadnax1948
@donzellbroadnax1948 Год назад
A.M.E. too my church has a Greek Sunday 😮pastor made it he no longer with us went on with the Lord,I let them know the church Can’t be a Christian and Greek they didn’t want to Listen😢and left papers on the Greek and Masons and eastern star,may they come to Jesus and get Saved.😊
@KeithEasley-vc1mb
@KeithEasley-vc1mb Год назад
Eastern stars and masons are from the bible
@rosestephen6789
@rosestephen6789 Год назад
What happens when your pastors are members of the divine 9
@peacemakersdeliverance7523
@peacemakersdeliverance7523 Год назад
Run.
@theclariontube
@theclariontube Год назад
@@peacemakersdeliverance7523 Amen! Like Forest Gump! 🏃‍♀️🏃‍♀️
@glambyportia3100
@glambyportia3100 Год назад
Leave! Don’t be lost just because the pastor is lost
@debofiveklub7804
@debofiveklub7804 11 месяцев назад
What happens when your pastor plays the lottery.
@Charles73358
@Charles73358 10 месяцев назад
Amen brother I really appreciate the truth that you are sharing today the very message that you are sharing coincides with Revelation chapters 1--3 the 5 heretic churches in Asia Minor were compromising their faith in order to continue to buy and sell and their were those that were mixing the message of the redemptive work of Jesus Christ with the doctrine of the Nicholatains in which one of the first Deacons from Acts chapter 7 Nicholas was the main leader that was initiated this evil idolatrous act Amen 🙏!
@niftyfifty51
@niftyfifty51 8 месяцев назад
What about fraternal orders like the police?
@ourcountrynotourselves3933
@ourcountrynotourselves3933 11 месяцев назад
Should "Christians" join the military? You take an oath there.... "I, ____________________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." Same thing happening in fraternities and sororities happening in the military?
@yohancejohnson3465
@yohancejohnson3465 10 месяцев назад
Well said
@mrswright1984
@mrswright1984 3 месяца назад
When joining a Greek D9 org you literally make a vow of a lifetime commitment to a Greek god/goddess and the org. There are rituals involved. Prayers, hymns and twisted scriptures are involved. No comparison. I know because I joined one in 1982 and recently renounced.
@chadsirwickhughesphd6323
@chadsirwickhughesphd6323 7 дней назад
@@mrswright1984 Not true.
@mrswright1984
@mrswright1984 7 дней назад
@@chadsirwickhughesphd6323 Did you join my sorority? I don’t think so. I know my truth. It may not be your truth but it’s mine.
@CockerOtto-h9y
@CockerOtto-h9y Месяц назад
Lee Maria Martinez Sharon Young Cynthia
@mikeBigboo35
@mikeBigboo35 Год назад
There’s “ No” name of any religious order given by The High!!! When you join any church you take a convenient and extended the right hand. Where is that setup in the Bible? Then you quote different scriptures to support your narrative, theory or doctrine? Let’s look at the position of being a bishop. Outline that set of protocols you had to go through to become one. Let’s review the Apostles creed (Catechumen) I’m just asking.
@jermanepatterson1665
@jermanepatterson1665 Год назад
I understand where you are coming from with this. That's why these "debates" are frivolous and distract from faith in Jesus Christ. For every point that is argued by these esteemed gentlemen, one could easily counter it. This doctrinal back and forth has being going on for years. My advice to people is to trust and believe in God and the redemption through Jesus Christ's death, burial, and resurrection. Let the Holy Spirit guide your conscious. I think many churches spend an inordinate amount of time telling people what not to do and very little time showing them the freedom and liberty that is available in Christ.
@Bham205northside
@Bham205northside 5 месяцев назад
First of all know one is pledging no more. That is a dangerous word. Secondly I’m part of a fraternity and not once have I ever seen anyone worship anyone or anything beside GOD. I was never ask to do anything that’s not godly. I don’t know where some of you all are getting this information from but it’s not true.
@Perfectpearl
@Perfectpearl 6 месяцев назад
4:39 That’s so terrible and petty. And things like that are going on today! 😮 😠 😡
@nikkib7442
@nikkib7442 4 месяца назад
Greek gods -Apollo, Minerva …….unholy
@1jonbarnes1
@1jonbarnes1 4 месяца назад
Please help me on this one. Judaism is mentioned in the Bible by Jesus in the New Testament and God often referred to Hebrews directly, in the Old Testament But I can't help but notice, Christianity is never mentioned by neither God or Jesus, throughout the whole text. I don't have all the answers. Can anyone explain in a few words, how the top diety, never directly mentions Christianity throughout their doctrine or lessons? This is a sincere question from the heart. I need answers. Thank you for the Upload.
@taraboddie
@taraboddie 2 месяца назад
That is a great question. Your answer is because it is a group just like the ones they are speaking on. It also has rituals and hazing in it's history. Jesus called His followers disciples and disciples only. The hypocrisy is crazy from the Christian church.
@1jonbarnes1
@1jonbarnes1 2 месяца назад
@@taraboddie Thanks for the feedback.
@jameshines9330
@jameshines9330 Год назад
NO, NO AND NO to the question posed.
@HalHanson-i5z
@HalHanson-i5z 10 месяцев назад
what is the book he is reading from regarding the fraternities and sororities?
@MsKB7
@MsKB7 7 месяцев назад
The greek organization’s ritual book
@Sadiyya
@Sadiyya Год назад
NO!
@Mark-ye9pi
@Mark-ye9pi Год назад
Philippians 3:7
@Mark-ye9pi
@Mark-ye9pi Год назад
Psalm 24: vanity = worship of a false god
@Mark-ye9pi
@Mark-ye9pi Год назад
33:01
@Mark-ye9pi
@Mark-ye9pi Год назад
Matthew 16
@Mark-ye9pi
@Mark-ye9pi Год назад
Psalm 75:6
@Mark-ye9pi
@Mark-ye9pi Год назад
2 Corinthians 6:17
@kevinbrown5591
@kevinbrown5591 3 месяца назад
The same holds true for the Masonic Order (Mason/Eastern Star).🙏🏽
@kimberlysmith6456
@kimberlysmith6456 Год назад
Lots of people don't know this book, and many don't read it: 2nd Maccabees 4:15
@ToOpen6seven
@ToOpen6seven Год назад
That book is NOT part of the 66 books of the holy canon. Christians don't need to read these Apocrypha or Pseudepigrapha books. A lot of false doctrines have started because of these books!!
@haywardjones7726
@haywardjones7726 7 месяцев назад
I'm a Christian and I'm a Kappa and my Pastor is a Q. I don't care what you Holly Rollers say. You don't pay one bill at my house!
@myonturner8034
@myonturner8034 6 месяцев назад
Jesus over everything. Trust God 100% lean not to your own understanding 🙏
@dr.slingnasty4174
@dr.slingnasty4174 6 месяцев назад
I have found that a lot of the animosity people have against Greek organizations is because they couldn’t qualify.
@chastity9272
@chastity9272 5 месяцев назад
I aspire to be passionate about something as you are about idolatry and necromancy.
@samanthathomas1846
@samanthathomas1846 3 месяца назад
My people that have lack of knowledge will perish
@haywardjones7726
@haywardjones7726 3 месяца назад
@@samanthathomas1846 Phi Nu Pi till I die ♦️👌🏿
@DigitalPittBoss
@DigitalPittBoss Месяц назад
He sounds like a slick talking pimp
@yohancejohnson3465
@yohancejohnson3465 10 месяцев назад
Who says that Fraternity and Sororities are the Church or God. Nothing Supercedes God Almighty. Naacp, urban league,Elks Lodge, Fraternal order of Police none are being worshipped. This is wrong on so many levels
@CourtneeG
@CourtneeG Год назад
Ethel is more of a savior than Jesus to many women 🧐🧐🧐
@chastity9272
@chastity9272 5 месяцев назад
I respect how passionate you are about necromancy.
@johnflorio3576
@johnflorio3576 8 месяцев назад
Only Alpha Omega! 😆
@churchclothes1
@churchclothes1 3 месяца назад
easy answer. Absolutely not. We serve Jesus only. We must reject mystery religions and secret societies claiming to have knowledge given by God that is not found in the Word of God. Jesus is the light of the world, there is no light in any other group.
@yahbarrahyisrael1921
@yahbarrahyisrael1921 8 месяцев назад
Preacher, Judaism did not give us Moses or anything pertaining to our Faith!
@larryrodgers2102
@larryrodgers2102 7 месяцев назад
You pledge allegiance to the flag and its not yours
@mrswright1984
@mrswright1984 3 месяца назад
There’s no comparison. Pledging a D9 sorority or fraternity involves lifetime vows, rituals, praise and worship to a Greek god/goddess.
@kactusJacko
@kactusJacko 6 месяцев назад
Jesus himself couldn't make me go against the brotherhood
@brotherjohnsmusic9491
@brotherjohnsmusic9491 6 месяцев назад
Even when I was young I knew better didn’t feel right plus they act like young white dudes in a boys club
@carolineyelding7989
@carolineyelding7989 Год назад
Sororities and fraternities do more community service than any preacher or church in any given community. So, really, who is a Christian after all. Check out your Black communities. Cut out preacher anniversaries, that which are sinfully fleecing the flock. Let the membership choose deacons and leaders, have a serious financial committee, visit the sick, and shut in, have strong positive programs for youth and young people, help the broken, hungry, and homeless, bring souls to Christ. Do all you should be doing instead of downing very important service organizations. Get called and live the faith. Have you looked at money? Sure, you don't want any of that, fleecer.
@Lala-ht8ps
@Lala-ht8ps 7 месяцев назад
That doesn't make you a. Christian. Don't be fooled. Your good works don't save you. So it doesn't matter how much food they do, doesn't mean you serve God.
@The_Kingdom_Citizen
@The_Kingdom_Citizen Год назад
Jesus never said that He was Alpha and Omega, The King James Version of the Bible says that Jesus Said that, but if you pay attention to the context of the scripture you’ll read something totally different.
@1959clarissa
@1959clarissa Год назад
Rev 22:13
@willieredmond9953
@willieredmond9953 Год назад
I am the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Alpha is the first letter in the Greek alphabet. Omega is the last letter in the Greek alphabet. Jesus is saying he is the first and the last and the beginning and the end. Jesuse was not speaking of any Greek organization.
@yohancejohnson3465
@yohancejohnson3465 10 месяцев назад
​@@willieredmond9953Who says that Fraternity and Sororities are the Church or God. Nothing Supercedes God Almighty. Naacp, urban league,Elks Lodge, Fraternal order of Police none are being worshipped. This is wrong on so many levels
@haywardjones7726
@haywardjones7726 6 месяцев назад
PHI NU PI till I die♦️👌🏿
@righton7632
@righton7632 Год назад
Unfortunately, a lot of what I have heard is that the two presenters are under informed on some levels, and ill- informed on many others. I don’t think it would serve to be effective arguing a point in the comment section, but I do wish that these two guys Understood more about Greek culture and exactly what it is that we do to join and none of it has to do with replacing God or your relationship with Christ. I grew up Church of God in Christ so there is some affection there, but discussions like these are the reason why the church has dwindled in numbers over the years and are missing a whole demographic that won’t even consider. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing and they are sparsely informed. Context is everything.
@Lala-ht8ps
@Lala-ht8ps 7 месяцев назад
So my question to you is then, what was your purpose in pledging, just like what was your purpose being born again?.
@JourneyToMyDestiny
@JourneyToMyDestiny 7 месяцев назад
The fact that each organization is connected to an ancient Greek god should be enough for you to see the primary issue: Thou shalt have NO other gods!
@righton7632
@righton7632 7 месяцев назад
Ok. Take care
@taraboddie
@taraboddie 2 месяца назад
Exactly my thoughts. How they define words to make a spiritual point is misleading. A ritual is just simply a routine. You can have a morning ritual of brushing your teeth and washing your face. The word sorority means sisterhood and fraternity means brotherhood. The way he uses the terms makes it seams as if they are Godly terms. The church denominations are nothing more than organizations just like sororities and fraternities. They have rituals, claim to be better than other denominations, coerce financial support, divide believers, place an emphasis on the Pastor and esteeming him or her as a diety in many cases with zero accountability. It's such a hypocrisy. Do away with all of it and go disciple like Paul and the other apostles.
@Steph-nc4bo
@Steph-nc4bo Год назад
“…who ARE?” 😢 the grammar alone
@Lala-ht8ps
@Lala-ht8ps 7 месяцев назад
You missed the whole point.
@hleboyd
@hleboyd 6 месяцев назад
Ignorance.
@johnmontgomery4923
@johnmontgomery4923 Год назад
Anti-semeti
@isaiahdaniels7303
@isaiahdaniels7303 Год назад
Why does this sound like someone who are angry that he was denied membership.
@setapart27
@setapart27 Год назад
The blood of Jesus!
@carolynsimpkins7853
@carolynsimpkins7853 Год назад
I choose Jesus…for mine!!!!!!❤❤
@runcamyt
@runcamyt Год назад
I was recruited and refused them all. My response was, " If I need to pay you to be my friend, I don't need you." My boss said I offended her bother, an APA.... Oh well...
@msbe.9792
@msbe.9792 Год назад
It probably sounds like that because you need to ask the Lord to give you ears to hear. In Jesus’ name.🙏🏾
@jermanepatterson1665
@jermanepatterson1665 Год назад
@@runcamytI am going to be a little facetious but many people say that to be a "Good Christian" and in "Good Standing" as a member of the Faith, one must "pay" tithes and offerings. They could say that you are "paying" to be a part of the local church. Hence, you are "paying" for friendships and relationships. I know this to not be true but it is a counter argument that many aren't prepared with a credible response.
@Brownskin69
@Brownskin69 Год назад
Where can I get the book? I don’t see it on Amazon.
@dr.slingnasty4174
@dr.slingnasty4174 6 месяцев назад
This bishop is trying so hard to be a celebrity. His focus should be his congregation, not every news event of celebrity gossip and issues that doesn’t affect salvation.
@Sadiyya
@Sadiyya Год назад
NO!
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